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RaginCajun
anyone with lots of time intrested in helping them????


http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/20..._huge_fish.html
Spinalcombo
Wow, now theres some reel big fish lol! My money is on it being a catfish!

Btw, that polar bear took me by surprise on the link! ohmy.gif
warden
QUOTE(Spinalcombo @ Dec 20 2004, 08:30 AM)
Wow, now theres some reel big fish lol! My money is on it being a catfish!

Btw, that polar bear took me by surprise on the link!  ohmy.gif
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I don`t think it`s a cat fish..saying that i don`t know what kind it is

You were right about one thing ,

That polar Bear where did it escape from ,it must have smelt the fish
Richdog
This is one of the largest http://www.arowana.net/www/arapaima.htm

largest arapaima ever caught was 16ft or something. original.gif
warden
Is that the fish that eats fruit
Andy_R
About 15 years ago, a dead sturgeon washed ashore on Lake Washington (Seattle). It weighed over 900 pounds.

A little off topic- I'm convinced that most (if not all) lochness/monster sightings are indeed huge sturgeon. Imagine seeing a 900 Lb fish break the surface. You'd think it was a monster.
RaginCajun
wow. richdog the site you got was interesting. that's one big fish. how heavy was it? it think scientist go by weight not lenght.
DarkSide
Well I think it would either be a type of catfish or a bull sharkl, since bull sharks have been know to go into freshwater systems.

I'll pm Canadian and we'll get his opinion on it too.
Richdog
QUOTE(DaRkSiDe @ Dec 20 2004, 10:11 PM)
Well I think it would either be a type of catfish or a bull sharkl, since bull sharks have been know to go into freshwater systems.

I'll pm Canadian and we'll get his opinion on it too.
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I think Bull sharks reach a max of around 550lbs... http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/fish/Gallery/Desc...k/bullshark.htm

I'd have to say that the biggest fish is either the Giant Cambodian stingray which has been said to reach a max of around 1'000lbs (higher than any freshwater-only fish i've ever heard of) http://www.carpecarpio.com/freshwaterstingray.html

Wels have got to 675lbs max http://www.scotcat.com/smiley.htm but the Stingray dwarfs that... original.gif
RaginCajun
that's ridicolus (in a shocked way). those are monsters.
Fatal Fury
I heard that a couple of years ago a giant squid beached our shores.
Richdog
QUOTE(Fatal Fury @ Dec 20 2004, 10:39 PM)
I heard that a couple of years ago a giant squid beached our shores.
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Yeah those things fascinate me a hell of a lot, I don't think we've seen the biggest specimens yet. I've read reports that Sperm Whales have been found with sucker marks on them that are absolutely huge in diameter. blink.gif
Canadian Rottweiler
Bull sharks are the largest freshwater fish.These catfish are not the largest freshwater fish,but they are on the top 10 list for the biggest.The pic from the start is of a giant catfish.The first 3 pics are of bull sharks.The others are other pics of the Giant catfish grin2.gif
Canadian Rottweiler
QUOTE(Richdog @ Dec 20 2004, 01:46 PM)
QUOTE(Fatal Fury @ Dec 20 2004, 10:39 PM)
I heard that a couple of years ago a giant squid beached our shores.
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Yeah those things fascinate me a hell of a lot, I don't think we've seen the biggest specimens yet. I've read reports that Sperm Whales have been found with sucker marks on them that are absolutely huge in diameter. blink.gif
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Yes,giant squids and sperm whales fight quite often.The giant squid normally loses and is eaten,but sometimes the whale dies from wounds by the giant squid.Here is some very cool pics related to what you were talking about.Some show the giant squid body,some of it's sharp sucker tentacles,and the last 3 are of a whale that died from a fight with a giant squid...
Fatal Fury
Do you think sea serpents exist or is just fiction?
Richdog
QUOTE(Canadian @ Dec 20 2004, 10:52 PM)
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Bullsharks grow over 900lbs? It says the large females weigh 500lbs, with the males being considerably smaller. I imagine the largest female wouldn't get much over 600lbs due to their streamlined design. If the Giant Stingray can reach 1'000lbs, I can't see the Bull Shark competing. original.gif

But thank goodness for that, they're by far the most vicious shark. crying.gif
Canadian Rottweiler
QUOTE(Richdog @ Dec 20 2004, 02:15 PM)
QUOTE(Canadian @ Dec 20 2004, 10:52 PM)
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Bullsharks grow over 900lbs? It says the large females weigh 500lbs, with the males being considerably smaller. I imagine the largest female wouldn't get much over 600lbs due to their streamlined design. If the Giant Stingray can reach 1'000lbs, I can't see the Bull Shark competing. original.gif

But thank goodness for that, they're by far the most vicious shark. crying.gif
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Bull sharks grow in excess of 1000 lbs.I have no idea where you heard that females are bigger,cause that is not true...
strichar
I'll bet you there are some absolutely HUGE fish somwhere in the Great Lakes. w00t.gif Maybe even a man eating catfish. ohmy.gif
Canadian Rottweiler
QUOTE(strichar @ Dec 20 2004, 02:38 PM)
I'll bet you there are some absolutely HUGE fish somwhere in the Great Lakes. w00t.gif  Maybe even a man eating catfish. ohmy.gif
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Are you joking? blink.gif
Richdog
QUOTE(Canadian @ Dec 20 2004, 11:29 PM)
Bull sharks grow in excess of 1000 lbs.I have no idea where you heard that females are bigger,cause that is not true...


Here... http://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjects/...Bullshark.shtml

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On average, adult males are about 7 feet (2.1 m) long weighing 200 pounds (90 kg). Adult females are about 11.5 feet (3.5 m) long weighing 500 pounds (230 kg).


Here... http://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjects/...Bullshark.shtml

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Anatomy: The bull shark has a short snout that is wider than it is long (hence its name). Its belly is off-white, its top surface is gray, and its eyes are small. The first dorsal fin is much longer and more pointed than the second dorsal fin. The females are larger than the males. On average, adult males are about 7 feet (2.1 m) long weighing 200 pounds (90 kg). Adult females are about 11.5 feet (3.5 m) long weighing 500 pounds (230 kg).


Here... http://www.sharksurvivor.com/sharks/bullshark.htm

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Size: 7 (2.1m) to 11.5 feet (3.5m) long; 200 (90kg) to 500 pounds (230kg).


Here... http://shark-gallery.netfirms.com/med/bull.htm

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Female bull sharks are usually larger than the males and can grow up to 11 feet.

Size
Grow from 7 to 11 feet weighing 200 to 500 pounds.


That's an awful amount of very credible sites that are wrong then... with all due respect are you sure we're talking about the same shark? original.gif
Mysteryman
Any one up for a large feast tonight? grin2.gif

Just kidding...

Aside of that, came across some research and found an interesting site based on all about the bullshark...

http://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjects/...Bullshark.shtml




BULL SHARK
Carcharhinus leucas
Bull Shark Printout

Simple Bull Shark Printout to Color



GENERAL DESCRIPTION
The bull shark has a short snout that is wider than it is long (hence its name). Its belly is off-white, its top surface is gray, and the eyes are small. The first dorsal fin is much longer and more pointed than the second dorsal fin. A pup's fins have black tips, but these marking fade in the adults. The females are larger than the males. The bull shark is also know as the cub, Ganges, Nicaragua, river, Swan River Whaler, Zambezi, shovelnose, slipway grey, square-nose, and Van Rooyen's shark.

TEETH
Bull shark teeth are triangular, serrated (saw-edged), and very sharp.

The teeth are located in rows which rotate into use as needed. The first two rows are used in obtaining prey, the other rows rotate into place as they are needed. As teeth are lost, broken, or worn down, they are replaced by new teeth that rotate into place.

SIZE
On average, adult males are about 7 feet (2.1 m) long weighing 200 pounds (90 kg). Adult females are about 11.5 feet (3.5 m) long weighing 500 pounds (230 kg).

DIET AND FEEDING HABITS
The bull shark eats fish (including other sharks and rays), turtles, birds, mollusks, crustaceans, and dolphins. It will eat almost anything.

BULL SHARK ATTACKS
The bull shark is one of the most frequent attacker of people, as it swims in very shallow waters where people swim and is an aggressive shark.

HABITAT
The bull shark is found close to shore and can live for a while in fresh water, frequenting estuaries, rivers and lakes. It has been found up to 1,750 miles (2800 km) up the Mississippi River in the USA and 2,500 miles (4000 km) up the Amazon River in Peru. It has been found in Lake Nicaragua (Central America) and the Zambezi River (Africa).

DISTRIBUTION
The bull shark is found in all tropical and subtropical oceans and seas along the coastlines and also in a few fresh water rivers and lakes.

REPRODUCTION
Bull sharks are viviparous (like mammals, giving birth to live animals that were nourished by through a placenta). Litters of 1 to 13 pups are common after a gestation period of about one year. Pups are about 28 inches (70 cm) long at birth. Very young bull sharks are frequently found in protected bays near the mouths of rivers, in briny water

MIGRATION
The South American bull shark migrates about 2,300 miles (3700 km) seasonally, travelling from the upper Amazon river to the sea.

POPULATION COUNT
The bull shark is a very common shark.

BULL SHARK CLASSIFICATION
Kingdom Animalia (animals)
Phylum Chordata
SubPhylum Vertebrata (vertebrates)
Class Chondrichthyes (cartilaginous fish)
Subclass Elasmobranchii (sharks and rays)
Order Carcharhiniformes
Family Carcharhinidae
Genus Carcharhinus
Species leucas


BULL SHARK ACTIVITY
A print-out about the bull shark .
A K-3 bull shark print-out to color.


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Another amazing and detailed site all about the life and environmental life of a bull shark:

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt...hl%3Den%26lr%3D


Also, talking about sea serpents, this picture, which could also be found on our site, is believed to be actually real, though I have hard times believing it:
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The truth is, I have hard times believing in sea serpents. Honestly, it might sound wierd, though I do want sea serpents to exist its just their isn't enough proof for it to exist...


Also, found some giant squid pictures (some people might consider them krakens, don't argue against me), some related to Canadians -

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This site is amazing and provides you with tons of pictures, history, tons of information all about the giant squid/kraken.

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Mysteryman
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Richdog
QUOTE(strichar @ Dec 20 2004, 11:38 PM)
I'll bet you there are some absolutely HUGE fish somwhere in the Great Lakes. w00t.gif  Maybe even a man eating catfish. ohmy.gif
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In Eastern Europe apparently there is a documented case about a young boy that was fishing on his local river in a small boat with a make-shift, thick fishing line wrapped around his hand, a huge Wels took an interest in his bait and dragged the poor kid under, drowning him. I did a Google and while I couldn't find the original place I read it I found another site that had the same story http://www.planetcatfish.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3369 and a google search turns a few more things up http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=na...+a+wels+catfish

So not man-eating, but as close as you'll get...

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RaginCajun
canadian:

great pics. what are those guys thinking? i though certain catfishes had thorny selfdefenses??
strichar
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Are you joking?


Yes. thumbsup.gif But seriously, I'll bet there are some huge fish in the Great lakes. Things we have never even seen. thumbsup.gif

On another note, I don't doubt sea serpents exist. We actually know less about the oceans than we do our own solar system. hmm.gif Does anyone remember that giant Fish thing From Star wars the Phantom Menace? I wouldn't doubt things like that even exist in the ocean. It's so big and the water allows for less gravity so it's definately not impossible.
Mysteryman
Interesting, sad, and crazy - but think about this...

In the Triassic - Jurrasic periods, pretty much, everything was absolutely huge, from crocodiles to iguanas. Imagine the kind of fish that roamed once in our great oceans. Besides the itchysauraus (for all people who don't know, a very large sea dinosaur, now extinct), possibly sea bass, salmon, flounder, sharks! Imagine the size! It would be so surreal...
strichar
A link about icthyosaurasuusefhhth
~TheBigK~
Does anyone know about the colossal squid? I was reading about it , It's bigger than the giant squid and has hooks on the tentacles to grasp prey, also a large beak. Supposedly a full grown one could be 20 yards or more ohmy.gif
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Canadian Rottweiler
QUOTE(strichar @ Dec 20 2004, 02:55 PM)
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Are you joking?


Yes. thumbsup.gif But seriously, I'll bet there are some huge fish in the Great lakes. Things we have never even seen. thumbsup.gif

On another note, I don't doubt sea serpents exist. We actually know less about the oceans than we do our own solar system. hmm.gif Does anyone remember that giant Fish thing From Star wars the Phantom Menace? I wouldn't doubt things like that even exist in the ocean. It's so big and the water allows for less gravity so it's definately not impossible.
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I agree with that statement thumbsup.gif
Canadian Rottweiler
QUOTE(~TheBigK~ @ Dec 20 2004, 03:05 PM)
Does anyone know about the colossal squid? I was reading about it , It's bigger than the giant squid and has hooks on the tentacles to grasp prey, also a large beak. Supposedly a full grown one could be 20 yards or more ohmy.gif
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First off,"colossal" squids are just large giant squids.And second,i already posted that pic in an earlier post yes.gif
Richdog
QUOTE(Mysteryman @ Dec 20 2004, 11:56 PM)
Interesting, sad, and crazy - but think about this...

In the Triassic - Jurrasic periods, pretty much, everything was absolutely huge, from crocodiles to iguanas. Imagine the kind of fish that roamed once in our great oceans. Besides the itchysauraus (for all people who don't know, a very large sea dinosaur, now extinct), possibly sea bass, salmon, flounder, sharks! Imagine the size! It would be so surreal...
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Oooo i've found us a new cryptoid to speculate about! Megalodon was the largest shark to every have lived, averaging over 40 feet long, maybe reaching up to 80 feet, and it has been found that as well as being around as long ago as 50 million years, it was also around as close back as 10'000 years! Check this... http://www.strangemag.com/megalodon.html

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According to the hundreds of Megalodon teeth that have been pulled from the oceans and rock beds of the world (which look much like the great white's teeth, except measure approximately 6 inches in length), the monstrous fish may have reached lengths close to 80 feet.(1) Next to the sperm whale, that would make Megalodon possibly the largest predator that has ever lived, including the land dinosaurs. The giant shark is sometimes depicted as having been able to totally swallow a small car, although this is probably exaggeration. Still, Jaws has nothing on this guy...

Almost all who have investigated the possible existence of the great Megalodon realize that if it is extinct, it has only recently occured in the geological record. The creature lived as long ago as 50 million years (Middle and Late Tertiary Period), but Ellis confirms that scientists have concluded Megalodon probably "just" became extinct, in the late Pleistocene or early Holocene epochs. In other words, as close as 10,000 years ago! Pretty scary stuff...

Zoological history has proven that very large animals can remain hidden from modern science, especially in our planet's under-explored ocean depths. So if the famous coelacanth can remain undisturbed for 60 million years, why not push our giant white shark up a mere 10,000? Apparently Ellis sees no major problem with that when he writes, "Except that we have not found one, there appears to be no reason why Megalodon should not be flourishing today."


Read the 1918 winess account of an enormous shark near the bottom too, quite interesting...

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In the year 1918 I recorded the sensation that had been caused among the "outside" crayfish men at Port Stephens, when, for several days, they refused to go to sea to their regular fishing grounds in the vicinity of Broughton Island. The men had been at work on the fishing grounds--which lie in deep water--when an immense shark of almost unbelievable proportions put in an appearance, lifting pot after pot containing many crayfishes, and taking, as the men said, "pots, mooring lines and all." These crayfish pots, it should be mentioned, were about 3 feet 6 inches in diameter and frequently contained from two to three dozen good-sized crayfish each weighing several pounds. The men were all unanimous that this shark was something the like of which they had never dreamed of.

In company with the local Fisheries Inspector I questioned many of the men very closely and they all agreed as to the gigantic stature of the beast. But the lengths they gave were, on the whole, absurd. I mention them, however, as an indication of the state of mind which this unusual giant had thrown them into. And bear in mind that these were men who were used to the sea and all sorts of weather, and all sorts of sharks as well. One of the crew said the shark was "three hundred feet long at least"! Others said it was as long as the wharf on which we stood--about 115 feet!

They affirmed that the water "boiled" over a large space when the fish swam past. They were all familiar with whales, which they had often seen passing at sea, but this was a vast shark. They had seen its terrible head which was "at least as long as the roof on the wharf shed at Nelson's Bay." Impossible, of course! But these were prosaic and rather stolid men, not given to 'fish stories' nor even to talking about their catches. Further, they knew that the person they were talking to (myself) had heard all the fish stories years before! One of the things that impressed me was that they all agreed as to the ghostly whitish color of the vast fish."(3)

In this popular account, we apparently have credible witnesses, and a knowledgeable investigator, Stead, who believed the fishermen were telling the truth (and that they may have witnessed a living Megalodon). I believe the "fact" that they did not return to sea for days could be added to their credibility, and to their loss in wages after the apparently traumatic experience (unless they were hoaxing the entire event, of course.)

We also have some rather strange features in this report, including the tremendous lengths the fishermen reported, if we cannot attribute these to exaggeration due to intense fear. If we cannot, then it seems if Megalodon has survived, it may have grown bigger, and I am not sure which idea is scarier.


Likely or not, it's still interesting. grin2.gif
Canadian Rottweiler
This site is cool.But on these shark sites,they only tell about the average sizes,not the record sizes...Bull shark
Mysteryman
QUOTE(strichar @ Dec 20 2004, 06:04 PM)
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Nice work - thanks for the information -



Fatal Fury
[Quote]"On another note, I don't doubt sea serpents exist. We actually know less about the oceans than we do our own solar system. Does anyone remember that giant Fish thing From Star wars the Phantom Menace? I wouldn't doubt things like that even exist in the ocean. It's so big and the water allows for less gravity so it's definately not impossible."[Quote/]
We'll then how do you know if sea serpents really do exist? As you said we know more about then the solar system then we do our oceans....
Richdog
QUOTE(Canadian @ Dec 21 2004, 12:12 AM)
This site is cool.But on these shark sites,they only tell about the average sizes,not the record sizes...Bull shark
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If you could link me to a site detailing the max recorded size of the Bull Shark or detailing a 1'000lb monster that'd be cool. original.gif
Canadian Rottweiler
QUOTE(Richdog @ Dec 20 2004, 03:16 PM)
QUOTE(Canadian @ Dec 21 2004, 12:12 AM)
This site is cool.But on these shark sites,they only tell about the average sizes,not the record sizes...Bull shark
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If you could link me to a site detailing the max recorded size of the Bull Shark or detailing a 1'000lb monster that'd be cool. original.gif
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Canadian Rottweiler
[quote=Fatal Fury,Dec 20 2004, 03:15 PM]
[Quote]"On another note, I don't doubt sea serpents exist. We actually know less about the oceans than we do our own solar system. Does anyone remember that giant Fish thing From Star wars the Phantom Menace? I wouldn't doubt things like that even exist in the ocean. It's so big and the water allows for less gravity so it's definately not impossible."[Quote/]
We'll then how do you know if sea serpents really do exist? As you said we know more about then the solar system then we do our oceans....
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He doesn't know for sure,he said he belives it does exist.So do i,and many other people believe the same thing.Don't be so negative with this stuff alien.gif
strichar
I was once reading this book about the Theory of Atlantis. For some reason I can't remember why it had this Little story in it about an unkown Sea creature that was Documented Back in the 1960's off the Coast of Florida.

Apparently, there were these Five boys out on a small boat off the coast of Florida(I can't remember where exactly). These boys were fishing when all of a sudden they started to hear this strange and disturbing noise. They saw this huge creature coming at their boat from under the water. Next thing they new they were all in the water. They began swimming back as fast as they could. Only one boy made it to shore alive in a state of shock. They found the remains of another one of the boys(a little over half of his body was torn away) not much further down the shore. The boy who survived later told his story. Mostly he just talked about the strange sounds that came from the creature and the horror of hearing his friends screaming for their lives while being eaten and dragged underwater. There were seven other people who saw this happen while on the shore. The story was supposedly kept under wraps by the state because they feared it would cause tourism to drop significantly. They were real worried about that since that was what the State was trying to implement at the time. It was a very interesting story. Creepy as well. no.gif
Fatal Fury
I wasnt being negative.
I was just saying my beliefs. *pokes the fingers*
Reflection the Hedgehog
Perhaps the creature that ate the boys was a squid, no clear description in what you siad, but it sounds like the work of an enourmous squid or shark.
Fatal Fury
We'll there a still a lot of fish that we dont know about....
Mysteryman
Yes their are. For example, deep deep down in the mighy depths of deep oceans of the Atlantic lets say. Between deep and large trenches that are hidden by us with the naked eye, their are fish down their that we have not yet to explore and understand their life cycle, how they see, their ecosystem in surving, etc.
DarkSide
Disregard this post and read my below post, sorry for the DP.
DarkSide
Isn't this about freshwater fish? And not about mollusks xD

Lol yes Megladon was the biggest shark ever, It was pretty much a really really big great white shark 40-80 feet long, they ate large fish, and other animals, like early whales.

To add to Giant squid, the sucker marks are actually scars, because the suckers are serated and covered in 1000's of tiny little teeth like pieces.

Another big fish, are blue tunas, they can get 500- 800 pounds or so i've heard, and the oar fish which isn't much heavy but it can be know to get atleast 80 feet long. The biggest fish on the planet right now, is the whale shark.

Oar fish:
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TehGrant
I heard that like granbury lake in texas has huge catfish the size of school buses
Incorrigible1
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I heard that like granbury lake in texas has huge catfish the size of school buses

The same tall tales are told at every large lake/impoundment in the country. Yet, no gigantic bodies ever turn up. Funny, isn't it?
Melvinator
QUOTE (Andy_R @ Dec 20 2004, 12:27 PM) *
About 15 years ago, a dead sturgeon washed ashore on Lake Washington (Seattle). It weighed over 900 pounds.

A little off topic- I'm convinced that most (if not all) lochness/monster sightings are indeed huge sturgeon. Imagine seeing a 900 Lb fish break the surface. You'd think it was a monster.


Sturgeon look weird enough on their own, let alone a 900 lb sturgeon. I'm with you.
Yankneck
When speaking of TRUE freshwater fish bull sharks are not the biggest they make forays into fresh water but it is never permanent and although it has been recorder that they do spend some long periods on rare occasions they rarely stay long. Now when it comes to the largest TRUE freshwater fish I would put my money on the Mekong catfish or the Sturgeon of the snake river in the US
TheNomad
My money would be on one of the Sturgeon species that inhabit the rivers of British Columbia.
glorybebe
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My money would be on one of the Sturgeon species that inhabit the rivers of British Columbia.


I agree. In the town I used to live in they were pulling 700 lbs and up Sturgeon from that river. In Kooteny Lake, the Sturgeon are protected, and they are friggin' HUGE! Thank goodness they are bottom feeders, otherwise I wouldn't be swimming in there ever again.
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