It has come to my attention, that more threads asking for help has been turned into a skeptics thread, where the hungry skeptic vultures, gnaw on a more or less peaceful thread (like my anoloagy ) So I now make the skeptics thread, skeptics, stop annoying the rest of us and post your arguments here, maybe we should also make a belivers thread? Where we reply to those arguments? No, let us argue.

To start off the argument:


Psi is real! Come prove me wrong!

And theres the beginning on irrational reasoning right there. Theres no way to prove a negative. You make the claim, so the burden of proving it is yours. So, now, prove that psi is real, or drop the case.

Try it yourself. Learn Aura-vision. Learn psi. Then tell me that psi isn't real. The only way to tell if something is real, is to believe. MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Psi is real! Come prove me wrong!
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Zu-dude. You're spending too much time out in the sun man. I tell you what.
You find someone who has this para-BS and take your act on the road. Id pay 50 cents to see you in a circus side show. You could come out in a pair of speedos, get in a steel cage and the bend the bars open with you mind. The audience could throw chicken doo at you to try and mess up your concentration. It would be the greatest show on earth.

...are you ok, bush?

And 50 cents is hardly enough. I'd rather have $1 mil

I'm fine frost. But I don't think anyones gonna drop a mil to see you meditating in a pair of speedos or zudude either.

OMG, I'm soo bloody sick of these skeptic threads, if U think psi is fake along with these abilities then get lost and leave us in peace!!!!!!!!!

Yes, tell him to learn it, but don't tell him anything on how to learn it.


It's not really a thought, it's more like a dis-belief. If you can't accept we don't belive why don't you leave us alone?

WTF R U talking about!? if you don't believe in psychic phenomena then WTF is the point in being in the Metaphysics, Astrology & Psychic Phenomena forum? huh? huh?
huhuhuhuh? =

To discuss it, and learn about it....not to mention disproving it every once in a while

GRRRRRRRRRRR! You sicken me!!!!!!!!!! Why would you want to learn about sumthing that is apparently "fake"????

That's like saying "why would someone like to learn about the human anatomy." It's a genuine interest in the subject. You don't have to believe in something to have an interest.

1000 bucks to the man who proves to me that they have actual psychokinetic abilities.

Yeah really, but because of the way they get soo pissed when we debate about it i doubt it's real. If you knew it were true you wouldn't have to get overly defensive. You would know in your heart it were real and you would accept all skepticism. Obviously you don't truly believe in it because of you getting overly defensive...

I'm serious here people. I will wire any of you 1000$ to an online accesable account if you prove to me that you actually can preform a psycho kinetic ability. What am I putting my money where my mouth is? Because you have to spend money to make money. (See my other posts regarding this subject)

Let the games begin people. My email address is brokenjohnnynofix@hotmail.com

No offence, Insight, but i don't think it'll work. You'll probably get replies like "Oh, i don't need money to prove i can do it, i know i can."

U no, I'm just kinda sick of this place being overrun with idiots saying that its not real

Alright, you don't need to call me an idiot. Because, that's obviously not the case. "u" is spelled "you" by the way.
The case is, you as a blind beliver can't accept that me (a non-believer) doesn't blindly belive like you do. Get over yourself.

Overrun with idiots? Maybe. They're not saying it isn't real, though.

You see, it's this kind of narrow-minded attitude that gets you tarred with the same brush. I have no reason to believe in it, and that belief does not make me an idiot, it makes me skeptical.

As small as that line may be, it is indeed there. :)

Any person who says that will immediately be deemed as a fraud, and ridiculed out of their skins. I mean, it's quite obvious to any person here that anyone unwilling to claim my prize has to put up, or shut up. I realize there may be some genuinly talents individuals here, so I urge them to practice and prove. I also realize there are some pathetic children here. And I expect them to loose any and all respect if they make excuses why they don't want the money. Who cares if something is real to you personally. Your still insane unless another person see's it too. It's simple psychology.

Good point, Insight, i just hope someone over 12 will be willing to give it a try

Hey I'm twelve! *Runs off crying*

Then put up or shut up.

What did i tell you, all these blind belivers are kids. Hell, i was like that at 12.
Lucky for me, i grew up fast and realised all this silly stuff is NOT real.
Sadly, not many people grow-up as fast as i did. They'll realise it when they are like 20...*sigh*

hehe

Nope. I believe in Psycokinesis, but I can't do it...O well!

Have you ever seen someone do it?
If not, then why belive it so blindly?
Take off the blindfold

I aint no "blind believer coz I can do it so I no that it's real!
Hawk: I'm only saying the ppl who come and try prove us wrong R idiots!
And I'm 13 so ummmmmmm............. yeah

Hehe, do you know anyone that claims to do all this fictional stuff over 13? and teenagers don't count, because they are just as blind (for the most part)

OK, I will

what the hell are you talking about?
and a kid your age shouldn't be playing SA

Cmon! IT's the best game of the Century! U'd have to be crazt not to play it!

No, I've played and beaten it. That is not the subject at hand. The subject is you people blindly believing in something. Your changing of topics is showing me you don't have the best faith in your beliefs.

Well, it's getting monotonous talking about the same thing over.

Why? Can't defend yourself anymore?

That's exactly it Janiel. You and I both know it.

Of course, most children can't put up a debate, even if their lives depended on it. This is just another one of those situations.

Result: Skepitics 1 Believers: 0

Hey, I believe in the psychic realm. I just believe the power of being young and naive is more powerful.

ok, fine....then why are you offering 1000$ for proof?

Janiel, my padiwan, i have taught you well.

Edited to remove stream of vulgarities.

There is no need to use that kind of language. You can get your point across without the cursing.

We thank'ee for all of your teachings

Because I want to see if anyone here will put up or shut up. I'm quite confident in the fact that no one will be able to prove anything. I am also confident in the fact I can make profit should anyone provide such proof. Either way I win. The "believers" are really the only ones that stand to lose foothold on their web of lies.

Put up or shut up kids.

What they do not seems to understand is, as Saruman said, it is not up to us to prove they don't exist because that is already the case.
When something is not accepted by science, it must be proven, not disproven.
Disproving super powers is kinda like proving that i am actually a dinosaur.
They need to be proven, since it is absolutely impossible to disprove something that is already known and accept to not exist.

Well said my friend, well said.

Very well said, although it spun me in a circle for a second....i think i should lay off the caffine

So, prove it, or it will remain unproved, and therefore non-existant.

Yeah sorry Jan. It's getting pretty late on my end here.

Hell no! Caffiene is the cleanser!

My point exactly



hehe, not your fault...im all hyper

I'm not reading that many pages!

Aye, I already make psiballs, and have done astral projection once, recently in fact... okay?

btw, I made this thread so other threads where people are asking for help don't turn into this debate over psi fake or real, it's annoying, might as well confine it to it's own thread... I am most awesome indeed.

And gwbush, don't call me zudude, Zudo does not like this name, just wait until he sends flocks of pigeons after you I wish

heh, yeah, I can't prove it unless i have a webcam and guess what!? I DON"T