Hawk7886
Dec 22 2004, 03:53 AM
GameSpy.com has released their GOTY list, and the number one was taken by, yes, we all saw it coming,
Halo 2!! GTA SA took fourth place, bumped down by Half-Life 2 on the PC and Metal Gear Solid: Snake Eater also on the PS2.
In the Gamers' Choice section, GTA SA took a commanding 40% of 15,719 votes on the PS2 section! Metroid Prime 2 took the Gamecube catagory with 34% of 13,556 votes, and Halo 2 took a SPECTACULAR 59% out of
18,553 votes!!Congratulations to the games that won, and I'm looking forward to the offical GOTY to be stamped on boxes.
ChrisC098
Dec 22 2004, 03:58 AM
PLEASE! Halo 2 was under developed and over hyped to the tenth power.
Hawk7886
Dec 22 2004, 04:01 AM
QUOTE(ChrisC098 @ Dec 21 2004, 05:58 PM)
PLEASE! Halo 2 was under developed and over hyped to the tenth power.
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Oh yes, it was indeed hyped. Billboards in time square? Plasma displays running over streets showing the TV ad on repeat for hours until the midnight countdown was judged as nearly a national statement? Awesome stuff.
Although you may believe it was underdeveloped, it still set records that smashed major movie events. Even with the hype it deserves the awards.
ChrisC098
Dec 22 2004, 04:16 AM
Sale records do not make good games.
Hawk7886
Dec 22 2004, 04:21 AM
QUOTE(ChrisC098 @ Dec 21 2004, 06:16 PM)
Sale records do not make good games.
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Mmm, you are right. Luckily this game has both; records along with excellent gameplay!
I'm not one to type out their entire history, but if you saw the Icons episode on G4TechTV you would understand. History is excellent. :)
Shakezulah
Dec 22 2004, 04:23 AM
dont get me wrong, Halo 2 is a great game, it just doesnt really deserve to win GOTY for anything. i agree with Chris, it was very overhyped and didnt really live up to my expectations, although it still was better than the first.
Janiel
Dec 22 2004, 04:24 AM
Halo 2 was awesome, me and Hawk have spent hours blowing each other to bits. Multi-Player is very entertaining, I could easily spend countless days playing it. But, in my eyes, SA is still better
Hawk7886
Dec 22 2004, 04:28 AM
QUOTE(Janiel @ Dec 21 2004, 06:24 PM)
Halo 2 was awesome, me and Hawk have spent hours blowing each other to bits. Multi-Player is very entertaining, I could easily spend countless days playing it. But, in my eyes, SA is still better

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One thing I'm looking forward to is the launch of SA to the Xbox. Since I personally don't have a PS2, I'm limited to the time I can spend at Janiel's house, and the few hours I had on my brother's borrowed copy.
*Scratches a mark on his birthday wishlist.*
And hereticdude, it didn't live up to anyone's expectations. People ran with the idea of a game that could top Halo, and suddenly these impossible expectations were built. There are a lot of holes that could be poked at, just as with any game, but the time and energy that the development team put into their game is monumental. It truly does deserve the awards.
Boff
Dec 22 2004, 04:34 AM
SA shoulda won it. Oh well
Shakezulah
Dec 22 2004, 04:37 AM
yes i do realize the time and money spent into making this game and that is what makes it a good game. multiplayer is ok. more fun with 4 people rather than 2. if it had bots in it, then it would be even better. but imo, i feel that there are a lot better games that deserve the title more than Halo 2, like SA (which already has gotten a few) , Ratchet and Clank 3, or MGS 3 (which has also won goty once). lets just hope that with Halo 3, they dont overlook things that could have been easily fixed. but of course, Halo 2 does deserve to win at least 1 goty title. it still is fun, especially on co-op mode.
Hawk7886
Dec 22 2004, 04:48 AM
QUOTE(hereticdude666 @ Dec 21 2004, 06:37 PM)
yes i do realize the time and money spent into making this game and that is what makes it a good game. multiplayer is ok. more fun with 4 people rather than 2. if it had bots in it, then it would be even better. but imo, i feel that there are a lot better games that deserve the title more than Halo 2, like SA (which already has gotten a few) , Ratchet and Clank 3, or MGS 3 (which has also won goty once). lets just hope that with Halo 3, they dont overlook things that could have been easily fixed. but of course, Halo 2 does deserve to win at least 1 goty title. it still is fun, especially on co-op mode.
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Oh, they tried to do bots. It basically came out to the same point that EVERY game with bots has: They were either as stupid as rocks or they would cheat like it was no big deal. Think Jackal Snipers on Legendary.
No chance you could get online then, huh? When you can have your own screen, with fifteen other players all fighting to hold onto a skull for the most amount of time while the air is filled with the sound and exhaust of rockets, the taste for victory gets pretty high. It can go from a rocket-filled game of Oddball to a stealthy Sniper game, where if you don't look in every corner before stepping outside you're likely to get your helmet ventilated before you can so much as sneeze.
Then you have your Banshe fliers, Wraith Tank operators, Warthog Drivers, Warthog Gunners, Rocket Jocks in the passenger seats, Ghost pilots, Snipers, Defenders waiting in dark corners with a shotgun...
Bungie's use of XBL in Halo 2 is the most creative use to date. Just the online stat-tracking makes my head hurt...
Subtemperate
Dec 22 2004, 05:18 AM
Yes, whenever I am bored I ask company around to play Halo 2, it is an excellent game in most aspects. I hae played and owned all the games in the top 4, and out of those Halo 2 is the one I enjoy playing the most, so In my eyes I agree with it being number one.
For those who have it and can't play online, I do feel sorry for you...
ChrisC098
Dec 22 2004, 05:25 AM
Game shouldnt be rated by their multi player.
Subtemperate
Dec 22 2004, 05:32 AM
Games should be rated "overall".... and since that a big part of that game is the multiplayer aspect, it needs to be taken into account. Because wouldn't that mean games that are basically just multiplayer games, without any single player aspect, could never win an award?
I never said the Halo2 single player wasnt good to play..... I just said why I like that game more.
Hawk7886
Dec 22 2004, 06:23 AM
QUOTE(ChrisC098 @ Dec 21 2004, 07:25 PM)
Game shouldnt be rated by their multi player.

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Oh yes, let's take into account a game that has both a single player game, AND a multiplayer mode, but skip the multiplayer! There goes half the game right there! It's BRILLIANT!
Like Subby said, games should be rated overall, not just by a few single select parts. For instance, I hate SA's soundtrack. It just blows. If I were to review it I wouldn't give it a 0/10 just because of that one part. I would rate it overall. Same thing for EVERY game on the market.
If you can't get on XBL, I do feel sorry for you. Although you can use tunneling software like
xbconnect if you have a few spare cables and a router. Halo 2's multiplayer is indeed half the game, if not more. Depending on what you want.
Hotoke
Dec 22 2004, 02:04 PM
QUOTE(Hawk7886 @ Dec 22 2004, 06:01 AM)
QUOTE(ChrisC098 @ Dec 21 2004, 05:58 PM)
PLEASE! Halo 2 was under developed and over hyped to the tenth power.
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Oh yes, it was indeed hyped. Billboards in time square? Plasma displays running over streets showing the TV ad on repeat for hours until the midnight countdown was judged as nearly a national statement? Awesome stuff.
Although you may believe it was underdeveloped, it still set records that smashed major movie events. Even with the hype it deserves the awards.
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yeah it was amazing. microsoft knows their marketing. if only nintendo did that. nintendo can learn something from microsoft
Shakezulah
Dec 22 2004, 03:50 PM
Nintendo IS doing that. its called Resident Evil 4. get with the program

but seriously, even though RE4 isnt nearly as hyped as Halo 2 was, it still is close. Nintendo could do a little better marketing like show TV commercials, but the game has been so under wraps that they refuse to do it, so they released several short trailers on the internet and a crap-load of screen shots so they wouldnt ruin too much of the game for fans. one of the main reasons RE4 is as hyped as it is is because people are curious as to how the game is gonna be. not like Halo 2, just another first-person shooter with no new gameplay elements.
so you see, Nintendo is doing a better marketing job right now, just not as good as they could be.
Hotoke
Dec 22 2004, 05:03 PM
resident evil is made by capcom right?
Shakezulah
Dec 22 2004, 05:49 PM
that is correct. they are probably one of the biggest videogame companies around right now. they come out with a lot of different games every year.
BurnSide
Dec 22 2004, 10:17 PM
Re4's marketing was actually seriously smegged, and several people lots their jobs over it.
For starters, the overwhelming amount of info on the web including hundreds of thousands of images and videos were never supposed to be released. Only a few videos and screenshots were ever supposed to get out. Makes sense, we pretty much know all of the first half of the game. Ada was never supposed to be leaked, etc etc. As such thousands of images and videos have been pulled off the net.
Secondly, having capcom announce such things like the PS2 release having extra features the GC release wont infact erodes the GC sales. Really stupid on Capcoms part. Now lots of fans will be waiting for the PS2 release and not buy the GC version.
There's thousands of reasons why the RE4 marketing was absoultely terrible. Only the people following the data released even know much about it. No TV spots, barely any magazine spots, etc etc.
Bad capcom. Bad.
Shakezulah
Dec 22 2004, 10:42 PM
Well, the marketing for it started out great at least, or seemed like it would. but all those things that BS mentioned above are pretty bad. i didnt know that that much of the info on the game wasnt supposta be leaked out, but i figured at least some it was. it really pisses me off that the PS2 version is gonna have more special features than the GC version considering how crap the rest of the PS2 game is gonna be. but still, any big RE fan will buy the GC game right away because of how long theyve been waiting to play such an amazing looking game.
BurnSide
Dec 22 2004, 10:44 PM
Of course.
Undoubtably a GC Directors cut version will appear after the PS2 version too, ala 'Code Veronica X'.
A silly way to do things really in my opinion. I'm not buying 3 copies of the same damned game.
Oh well.
Shakezulah
Dec 22 2004, 10:47 PM
well if they do bring out a directors cut version for GC, i would just get rid of my normal one and buy that one. but theres no way in hell i would waste my precious money on the PS2 one.
mr_halo
Dec 22 2004, 10:47 PM
NO resident evil game is coming to the PS2.....fact!
now stop turning ever videogame topic into the RE topic, damnit
halo 2, halo 2, halo 2
BurnSide
Dec 22 2004, 10:51 PM
Dude what are you talking about? It's been announced for months that RE4 is being released on the PS2 september 2005.
mr_halo
Dec 22 2004, 10:53 PM
QUOTE(BurnSide @ Dec 22 2004, 10:51 PM)
Dude what are you talking about? It's been announced for months that RE4 is being released on the PS2 september 2005.

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don't make me come in there you
halo 2 topic, now scram
BurnSide
Dec 22 2004, 10:54 PM
Janiel
Dec 22 2004, 11:07 PM
QUOTE(BurnSide @ Dec 22 2004, 12:17 PM)
Secondly, having capcom announce such things like the PS2 release having extra features the GC release wont infact erodes the GC sales. Really stupid on Capcoms part. Now lots of fans will be waiting for the PS2 release and not buy the GC version.
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AHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Excuse me while i laugh a little more at GC's expence.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OK, I'm done...back to H2....
ChrisC098
Dec 22 2004, 11:10 PM

.........Halo 2 sucks.
BurnSide
Dec 22 2004, 11:11 PM
Why are you laughing?
It's also known that the PS2 version of RE4 is going to be extremely limited within terms of playability and graphics, which is why capcom needs to put these extra features in, just to make the game worth buying on the PS2. Because, of course, the PS2 is not equipped enough to handle the advanced technology of the GC. Fact.
Janiel
Dec 22 2004, 11:16 PM
You are such the little fanboy.
mr_halo
Dec 22 2004, 11:17 PM
QUOTE(ChrisC098 @ Dec 22 2004, 11:10 PM)

.........Halo 2 sucks.
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all silent hill games suck....
BurnSide
Dec 22 2004, 11:19 PM
QUOTE(Janiel @ Dec 22 2004, 06:16 PM)
You are such the little fanboy.

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I can just recognise advanced technology when i see it.
ChrisC098
Dec 22 2004, 11:23 PM
QUOTE(mr_halo @ Dec 22 2004, 06:17 PM)
QUOTE(ChrisC098 @ Dec 22 2004, 11:10 PM)

.........Halo 2 sucks.
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all silent hill games suck....

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Well i respect your opinion and i hope you respect mine. Mine being that Halo was made by a batch of retarded monkeys with a bungee cord.
mr_halo
Dec 22 2004, 11:27 PM
QUOTE(ChrisC098 @ Dec 22 2004, 11:23 PM)
QUOTE(mr_halo @ Dec 22 2004, 06:17 PM)
QUOTE(ChrisC098 @ Dec 22 2004, 11:10 PM)

.........Halo 2 sucks.
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all silent hill games suck....

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Well i respect your opinion and i hope you respect mine. Mine being that Halo was made by a batch of retarded monkeys with a bungee cord.
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......kids
ChrisC098
Dec 22 2004, 11:28 PM
adults
Janiel
Dec 22 2004, 11:30 PM
QUOTE(ChrisC098 @ Dec 22 2004, 01:23 PM)
Well i respect your opinion and i hope you respect mine. Mine being that Halo was made by a batch of retarded monkeys with a bungee cord.
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let's see you make a better game.
ChrisC098
Dec 22 2004, 11:32 PM
Ok i will. I am planning on it actually.
Hotoke
Dec 22 2004, 11:33 PM
halo 2 is addiciting. they kicked me out of the store because i was playing halo 2 to much. everytime i come in the store they turn of the x-boxes
mr_halo
Dec 22 2004, 11:34 PM
kidults
anyway halo 2 is rather great.....
The Cheat
Dec 24 2004, 05:45 PM
the Spike TV VG Awards were completely retarded... most of the awards they didnt even present because 'they didnt have time' .... instead of putting 50 rappers on the stage at once, and having 'Hot girls read cheat codes' maybe they could have cut all the crap and actually handed out awards...
Anyway, they were all voters choice awards....
Gaming needs real awards, with a real awards show.
Shakezulah
Dec 24 2004, 06:01 PM
there is one. its on G4 Tech TV. i dont have the station, but my friend does. i saw part of last years awards there and they seemed pretty official to me. the entire channel is about videogames, so it really kicks ass. damn i wish i had it.
BurnSide
Dec 24 2004, 06:07 PM
Man, i wish i had that station. I've never heard of it before and i have pretty much the whole bundle up here.
_hAiLO_
Dec 24 2004, 06:43 PM
I have G4TechTV, why not call your Satellite or Cable company?!?! You really need to. Eveyr program is about video games, every single one...except there is this one anime, don't know why its there...and robot wars is there too.
Anyway, congratulations for Halo 2 winning game of the year. Like all super empires, they eventually fall and another comes to claim the throne...wonder what game that will be.
P.S. I demand you, to those who don't have channel 74, G4TechTV, CALL YOUR LOCAL CABLE/SATELLITE COMPANY NOW!!!!
BurnSide
Dec 24 2004, 06:49 PM
What would calling them do?? The channel is not broadcast here. They can't just flick a switch and recieve it.
_hAiLO_
Dec 24 2004, 10:53 PM
QUOTE(BurnSide @ Dec 24 2004, 10:49 AM)
What would calling them do?? The channel is not broadcast here. They can't just flick a switch and recieve it.

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Your not serious
Well, you can always go to
http://www.g4techtv.com I suppose...or
http://www.gamespot.com , they show some good game information and stuff.
Xenojjin
Dec 25 2004, 12:01 AM
the real problem with halo 2 is that unless you get X-box live , it gets boring after 10 hours . I suspect many of you who think it doesnt deserve goty dont have live , since a lot of halo 2's greatness comes from just that . The ability to make your own gametypes and instantly start killing people online with them along with the clan forums , in game clan system , ranking system , and pretty much the whole online experience is more then half the game . The campaign mode is just practice .
Not to mention the sword/rocket launcher glitch that lets you fly if you have the sword and an empty rocket launcher ---- Weeee !
Hawk7886
Dec 26 2004, 04:05 AM
QUOTE(Xenojjin @ Dec 24 2004, 02:01 PM)
the real problem with halo 2 is that unless you get X-box live , it gets boring after 10 hours . I suspect many of you who think it doesnt deserve goty dont have live , since a lot of halo 2's greatness comes from just that . The ability to make your own gametypes and instantly start killing people online with them along with the clan forums , in game clan system , ranking system , and pretty much the whole online experience is more then half the game . The campaign mode is just practice .
Not to mention the sword/rocket launcher glitch that lets you fly if you have the sword and an empty rocket launcher ---- Weeee !
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Hehehehe, the Sword glitch... Hours of fun exploring around Headlong. :D
About XBL... The Limited Edition(and possibly the regular edition also has it. I'm not sure, since I only have copies of the LE) comes with a two-month free trial to XBL. As long as you have access to a credit card and broadband, you can play online. After this, insert more marketing...
In order to speak to other people, be prepared to drop 30-40 bucks on an Xbox Live Communicator. The headset that comes with it is crap(warning -- personal opinion), so unless you have another phone-compatable headset, be prepared to drop MORE cash on another headset.
The two-month free trial will run out. You can't dodge that. So you'll eventually either cancel the subscription(taking full advantage of two months free on a pay service) or go ahead and bite the bullet. Just start paying for it. A year is only 49 bucks; less than a new release game. It's over 10 bucks a month, or 120+ dollars a year. The yearly subscription will save you a ton of money.
You get what you pay for, though.
Spike TV's award show is a joke. It always has been. They try to get good ratings, while beating everyone with a stick. I rarely care about award write-ups until I see the award itself on the game's case. :)
BS, I'm sorry you can't get G4TechTV, but you really aren't missing much. If there's some terribly important show that you just NEED to see, most fansites will have their fans record the show and later make it available for download once the show is off the channel's program. I'm sure you've seen this already, but I've always hated G4, and watching it brutally inhale an awesome station like TechTV and make it bend over... my hatred has just grown.
And Chris, I'm sorry if you believe that Bungie is below you. I have to mimic Janiel when I suggest you go ahead and make a game that will top Halo and Halo 2's fame. If you think THEY don't know what they're doing, be prepared for a nice life-smack-in-the-face. (Just thinking about
Halo 2's stat-tracking gives me a headache...)
If you don't agree with this thread or the people posting in it, use salt please.
Janiel
Dec 26 2004, 04:09 AM
hehe, Hawk, you copied me

But i agree with everything you just said (execpt the XBL bit, i've never played

)
ChrisC098
Dec 29 2004, 12:13 AM
Your right Halo is a great game for CONSOLES. It's only because of the X Box's controller that Halo works so well. Mostly because the PS2 and Gamecube controllers cannot do FPS. However when Halo was ported onto the PC what happened? It actually had some compitition and it was finally reavealed to be average. We will see what happens to Halo2 when it goes to the PC.
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