Amazing how When I was little. I was told about the mark of the beast and how it will be placed into our hands or forehead.
It's alway's been known that the mark would be a bar code.
Now these Microchips are being inserted into people. These people are experiments, They use their bio chip to use as their money, their ID's, It can carry all medical records and give doctor's major information about a injured person and can located by the satellites.
What scares me the most is right now it's optional. Will it ever go as far as "Mandantory?" Please remember this post if you hear it goes mandantory.
The bible say's the code/mark of the beast "The Beast pertaining to a LARGE computer or brain" Funny thing is the large computer that is running everything is called "Beast".
I still don't know if the chips will be mandantory before or after rapture. My mom said she believes the bible to say before rapture.
The bible speaks of running to the hills, Yet it say's the people will be able to seek us. "Satellite perhaps?".
What is also scary is in the bible it speaks of a gillatine and to be decapitated. They're practicing that again in some Texas areas.
They're also wanting to make it mandantory for ALL soldiers of America to be micro chipped. Said they could track them on satellite.
Also the people who have the "Chip" will be able to bag items up in a store and walk through a door "Looks like a metal detector and it scans your hand and products at once and charges to your account".
I hope I'm dead and gone before that actually comes out. I don't want to deal with it.
The Antichrist is son to come as well. No one knows exactly when but he is born and a wise man, He has great military knowledge. I wonder if he will be voted president? I hope not. I like Bush, He wouldn't make the micro chip mandantory.
Sheesh.. creepy thinking of all this.
Full Version: The End of the world? or The start of the end?
You should look into more Apocalyptic revelations instead of just the Christian one. There are much more informative ones out there, probably even older than John's psychedelic vision.
It is the beginning of the end.... The last and greatest chapter of the story of humanity is about to be read!
Prepare yourselves!!!
It is the beginning of the end.... The last and greatest chapter of the story of humanity is about to be read!
Prepare yourselves!!!
I'm pretty sure I want to spend the rest of my days ENJOYING the rest of my days, rather than worryin about when, how, or where the apocalypse will start... and whether I might get into an afterlife world we aren't even sure exists. Why are so many people so worried about whats going to happen after they die, when we are given such a short period of time to be alive?? Carpe Diem!! And think about it this way all you Christians... if you think that God made the earth and everything on it, then why so much effort in making this place at all if such a better place exists after we die?? Seems like an incredible waste....
never going to happen stop worrying about it
I firmly believe, from the good book, that the Vogons will demolish the earth.
The soon I get these chips implanted into me the better.
first of all, ive got nothing to hide. ALso Government and companies already have A LOT of information on us already.
I dont believe Every1 will have to have the chips.
Chips are going to do more good than harm. They will diagnose Disease, Cancer, Genetic faults, Viruses, hold your medical record incase of emergancy. mabey tell you your risk of Imminent heart attack. Eventually they will apply the appropiate treatments
So they will do a lot more good than bad. Anyway Stop interpreting the bible or watever like that.
ANd most of the things you are worried about are already out, its just a matter of time before most people get it done, it is REALLY not as bad as your making out.
first of all, ive got nothing to hide. ALso Government and companies already have A LOT of information on us already.
I dont believe Every1 will have to have the chips.
Chips are going to do more good than harm. They will diagnose Disease, Cancer, Genetic faults, Viruses, hold your medical record incase of emergancy. mabey tell you your risk of Imminent heart attack. Eventually they will apply the appropiate treatments
So they will do a lot more good than bad. Anyway Stop interpreting the bible or watever like that.
ANd most of the things you are worried about are already out, its just a matter of time before most people get it done, it is REALLY not as bad as your making out.
And think about it this way all you Christians... if you think that God made the earth and everything on it, then why so much effort in making this place at all if such a better place exists after we die?? Seems like an incredible waste....
Because God speciffically commands us to respect his creation, and gives us authority over it. This is a responsibility not to treat it with reckless abandon.
Besides, even if I didn't care about the environment or the erath, I plan to have children some day, and they'd be pretty pissed off at me to find out that I wasn't trying to preserve a decent and healthy future for them, and a clean environment.
Wouldn't you agree?
Is it a waste to want to preserve the beauty of the world we are in?
Under your logic, all of us christians might as well commit suicide so we can get to heaven right now. Unfortunately, God didn't make it that easy for us. Each of us has a purpose and a plan made speciffically for life on planet earth. Murder is a sin. Killing ourselves would in turn be an extremely selfish sin.
Because God speciffically commands us to respect his creation, and gives us authority over it. This is a responsibility not to treat it with reckless abandon.
Besides, even if I didn't care about the environment or the erath, I plan to have children some day, and they'd be pretty pissed off at me to find out that I wasn't trying to preserve a decent and healthy future for them, and a clean environment.
Wouldn't you agree?
Is it a waste to want to preserve the beauty of the world we are in?
Under your logic, all of us christians might as well commit suicide so we can get to heaven right now. Unfortunately, God didn't make it that easy for us. Each of us has a purpose and a plan made speciffically for life on planet earth. Murder is a sin. Killing ourselves would in turn be an extremely selfish sin.
In regards to the chips, you said:
first of all, ive got nothing to hide.
This is the common arguement of people who do not understand what is going on. I don't have anything to hide either. I have a clean record. However, I am not willing to give up that much power over my life to a government which I don't always agree with, not trust.
What if the government decided to take away all of our freedoms? Wouldn't you fight to keep them? With those chips in place, you wouldn't have much of a chance, would you? The government would be able to track you down where ever you were.
Have you read at all into the recent studies of electronic interference with the brains nueral signals? It is actually possible now to control certain brain funstions via a small implanted chipset. I myself would be very careful about impanting a chip that may or may not give another person control over my higher braion functions.
ALso Government and companies already have A LOT of information on us already.
What sort of information? Like, where we live? That's all well and good. I mean, we can;t have unregulated population growth, otherwise city traffic would be worse than it already is. What other information do they have on us? What we buy? They use that information to advertise even more to us.
The whole issue of personal privacy comes into play. Sure, I have nothing to hide, but if someone asks me the balance of my bank account, I tell them it's none of their damned business. If someone asks me what the contents of my fridge are, I tell them they don't need to know.
I don't have anything to hide. But that doesn't mean I want to be able to never hide anything. If I become unable to hide anything, this takes away my basic personal freedom to live life the way I choose. What if I want to look at pronography, but have no body know about it? What if I want to buy cigarette, but smoke in secret? What if I have a sexually transmitted disease, but want don't want every one to know? Why would the government need to know if my genitals were healthy or not? Why would they need to know what is in my fridge? Why would they need to know whether or not I like pornography? They don't need to know any of that. I am innocent until proven guilty. And unless I commit a crime, they have no right to pry into the details of my life.
I dont believe Every1 will have to have the chips.
Belief doesn't create reality. You obviously haven't been following the news regarding these chips. the only people who have stand a chace of avoiding being chipped are the government elite.
Chips are going to do more good than harm. They will diagnose Disease, Cancer, Genetic faults, Viruses, hold your medical record incase of emergancy. mabey tell you your risk of Imminent heart attack. Eventually they will apply the appropiate treatments
This is all propoganda my friend. We already have hospitals and doctors that can diagnose any of those conditions you mentioned. We have a special number to call when ever there is a medical emergency. And they do it with complete patient confidentiality. My BC Care card holds a record of my medical history. I don't need a chip implanted in me. And any formal public shcool education can tell me how to recognize the early signs of heart attack.
So they will do a lot more good than bad.
You have listed only one factor saying that they will be more good than bad. I have negated that factor, and listed many others which tell us why the chips will be bad.
ANd most of the things you are worried about are already out, its just a matter of time before most people get it done, it is REALLY not as bad as your making out.
Do you understand the patriot act legislation at all? What about the Victory act? Or how about the patriot act 2, which they are trying to pass? I assume you are a young person, still in school. Well my friend, on the surface it does seem like these chips are good. I mean, if a child has one, and it is kidnapped, you'd be able to find them. That is definately a plus. But you my friend must begin to understand the progression of power in the world. Any technology has a good side and a bad side to it. And what proof do we have that our government would only use the chips for good? Our government has lied to us, cheated us, jerked us around, made shady business dealings, started wars, killed people, and that's just a broad list. What makes you think that once the chips are in place, our governemt will only use them morally. What makes you think our government even has a sense of morals?
first of all, ive got nothing to hide.
This is the common arguement of people who do not understand what is going on. I don't have anything to hide either. I have a clean record. However, I am not willing to give up that much power over my life to a government which I don't always agree with, not trust.
What if the government decided to take away all of our freedoms? Wouldn't you fight to keep them? With those chips in place, you wouldn't have much of a chance, would you? The government would be able to track you down where ever you were.
Have you read at all into the recent studies of electronic interference with the brains nueral signals? It is actually possible now to control certain brain funstions via a small implanted chipset. I myself would be very careful about impanting a chip that may or may not give another person control over my higher braion functions.
ALso Government and companies already have A LOT of information on us already.
What sort of information? Like, where we live? That's all well and good. I mean, we can;t have unregulated population growth, otherwise city traffic would be worse than it already is. What other information do they have on us? What we buy? They use that information to advertise even more to us.
The whole issue of personal privacy comes into play. Sure, I have nothing to hide, but if someone asks me the balance of my bank account, I tell them it's none of their damned business. If someone asks me what the contents of my fridge are, I tell them they don't need to know.
I don't have anything to hide. But that doesn't mean I want to be able to never hide anything. If I become unable to hide anything, this takes away my basic personal freedom to live life the way I choose. What if I want to look at pronography, but have no body know about it? What if I want to buy cigarette, but smoke in secret? What if I have a sexually transmitted disease, but want don't want every one to know? Why would the government need to know if my genitals were healthy or not? Why would they need to know what is in my fridge? Why would they need to know whether or not I like pornography? They don't need to know any of that. I am innocent until proven guilty. And unless I commit a crime, they have no right to pry into the details of my life.
I dont believe Every1 will have to have the chips.
Belief doesn't create reality. You obviously haven't been following the news regarding these chips. the only people who have stand a chace of avoiding being chipped are the government elite.
Chips are going to do more good than harm. They will diagnose Disease, Cancer, Genetic faults, Viruses, hold your medical record incase of emergancy. mabey tell you your risk of Imminent heart attack. Eventually they will apply the appropiate treatments
This is all propoganda my friend. We already have hospitals and doctors that can diagnose any of those conditions you mentioned. We have a special number to call when ever there is a medical emergency. And they do it with complete patient confidentiality. My BC Care card holds a record of my medical history. I don't need a chip implanted in me. And any formal public shcool education can tell me how to recognize the early signs of heart attack.
So they will do a lot more good than bad.
You have listed only one factor saying that they will be more good than bad. I have negated that factor, and listed many others which tell us why the chips will be bad.
ANd most of the things you are worried about are already out, its just a matter of time before most people get it done, it is REALLY not as bad as your making out.
Do you understand the patriot act legislation at all? What about the Victory act? Or how about the patriot act 2, which they are trying to pass? I assume you are a young person, still in school. Well my friend, on the surface it does seem like these chips are good. I mean, if a child has one, and it is kidnapped, you'd be able to find them. That is definately a plus. But you my friend must begin to understand the progression of power in the world. Any technology has a good side and a bad side to it. And what proof do we have that our government would only use the chips for good? Our government has lied to us, cheated us, jerked us around, made shady business dealings, started wars, killed people, and that's just a broad list. What makes you think that once the chips are in place, our governemt will only use them morally. What makes you think our government even has a sense of morals?
Lesson two on quoating like that.
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IM from the UK, the other day a law was passed, Any information being held on me I have a right to get it, I dont believe that totally tho.
Im also 20 and ive been to school and am now in College.
Right, You have got a lot of things wrong about me so we'll clear those up. I am well educated in These technologies, I have been following them for about 7 years.
Technologies that I have been following are:
Nanotechnology
Biotecnology
Robotics and A.I
Information Tecnology
I have read many books on these topics, some of those rescent books are:
- Our molecular Future - Douglas Mulhall
- Nanotecnology Crandall Editor
- THE SPIKE
- Fantastic Voyage - Live long enough to live forever - ray kurzweil and terry Grossman m.d
- Quantum reality
- Living with the genie
- AGE OF SPIRTUAL MACHINES - How we live and think in the new age of intelligent machines
- The new Quantum universe
- The final theory
- Engines of creation - The coming era of Nanotechnology
These are just a few of the books I have read, So I damn well do know where technology is heading and I am quite educated on the subject.
Humans in todays world are highly dependent on technology, we cannot live without it and that isnt going to be any different a hundred years from now.
Privacy - Privacy as you know it today will not be the same in just a few years from now. Artificial intelligent, biometrics, object and facial recognition will play a big part in security. A computer WILL be able to pick you out of a bunch of people on a high street, Camera's will be everywhere.
RFID tags.
These will be put in almost anything you buy, Companies will be able to pick up your Shopping habits, They can also track where the product ends up.
Computer chips will be imbeded in almost everything you can think of, Including humans. I would get used to the idea now, instead of worrying.
controlling brain functions. That has already been done with MICE, they controlled the Mouse and moved in in the direction they wanted. When humans start to get Nueral implants there will be security measures taken.
Yes doctors can diagnose these problem, YEAH WHEN THEY ARE GONE TO FAR!
Biochips will Detect problems when there are only a few cells. They will be able to detect that you have a virus when you dont feel ill just yet. It will detect cancer before there is even a tumor growing. Then treatment can happen immediatly. At first treatment will be somewhat like we do today for cancer.
Around 20 years from now we will use Smart Nanobots, They will go into the blood and Kill these cells without destroying good ones.
We are already making big strides in this sort of technology. We have many trials and upcoming trials of Smart nanoparticles. They are still based on biology. 1 trial is for Lung cancer. You use like a inhaler. The nanoparticles Enter the lungs They Find their Target and attach to it, then they are Activated to destroy the cancerous cells.
So in the future, Because of these chips we will be able to diagnose disease before it ever becomes a problem, it will make your life more comfortable, you will be healthier because of it.
Technology is something you are not going to stop. So live with it, because you cant live without it
Also I havnt even gone into the part where we will be able to enhance ourselfs in many ways
Being able to access Computers with our thoughts alone. Already been done by scanning around 100-200 nuerons. more tests being done in 05. At first we will see these devices being non invasive. then they will make there way into our bodies, its just a matter of time.
The Post human era is coming, You will be apart of it.
remember this post
Im also 20 and ive been to school and am now in College.
Right, You have got a lot of things wrong about me so we'll clear those up. I am well educated in These technologies, I have been following them for about 7 years.
Technologies that I have been following are:
Nanotechnology
Biotecnology
Robotics and A.I
Information Tecnology
I have read many books on these topics, some of those rescent books are:
- Our molecular Future - Douglas Mulhall
- Nanotecnology Crandall Editor
- THE SPIKE
- Fantastic Voyage - Live long enough to live forever - ray kurzweil and terry Grossman m.d
- Quantum reality
- Living with the genie
- AGE OF SPIRTUAL MACHINES - How we live and think in the new age of intelligent machines
- The new Quantum universe
- The final theory
- Engines of creation - The coming era of Nanotechnology
These are just a few of the books I have read, So I damn well do know where technology is heading and I am quite educated on the subject.
Humans in todays world are highly dependent on technology, we cannot live without it and that isnt going to be any different a hundred years from now.
Privacy - Privacy as you know it today will not be the same in just a few years from now. Artificial intelligent, biometrics, object and facial recognition will play a big part in security. A computer WILL be able to pick you out of a bunch of people on a high street, Camera's will be everywhere.
RFID tags.
These will be put in almost anything you buy, Companies will be able to pick up your Shopping habits, They can also track where the product ends up.
Computer chips will be imbeded in almost everything you can think of, Including humans. I would get used to the idea now, instead of worrying.
controlling brain functions. That has already been done with MICE, they controlled the Mouse and moved in in the direction they wanted. When humans start to get Nueral implants there will be security measures taken.
Yes doctors can diagnose these problem, YEAH WHEN THEY ARE GONE TO FAR!
Biochips will Detect problems when there are only a few cells. They will be able to detect that you have a virus when you dont feel ill just yet. It will detect cancer before there is even a tumor growing. Then treatment can happen immediatly. At first treatment will be somewhat like we do today for cancer.
Around 20 years from now we will use Smart Nanobots, They will go into the blood and Kill these cells without destroying good ones.
We are already making big strides in this sort of technology. We have many trials and upcoming trials of Smart nanoparticles. They are still based on biology. 1 trial is for Lung cancer. You use like a inhaler. The nanoparticles Enter the lungs They Find their Target and attach to it, then they are Activated to destroy the cancerous cells.
So in the future, Because of these chips we will be able to diagnose disease before it ever becomes a problem, it will make your life more comfortable, you will be healthier because of it.
Technology is something you are not going to stop. So live with it, because you cant live without it
Also I havnt even gone into the part where we will be able to enhance ourselfs in many ways
Being able to access Computers with our thoughts alone. Already been done by scanning around 100-200 nuerons. more tests being done in 05. At first we will see these devices being non invasive. then they will make there way into our bodies, its just a matter of time.
The Post human era is coming, You will be apart of it.
remember this post
Forgot to say.
im getting 1 of these CHIPS in me as soon as they are available in the UK.
There is 1 problem Im aware of
Could future computer viruses infect humans? - kevin warwick
http://networks.silicon.com/webwatch/0,390...39125887,00.htm
im getting 1 of these CHIPS in me as soon as they are available in the UK.
There is 1 problem Im aware of
Could future computer viruses infect humans? - kevin warwick
http://networks.silicon.com/webwatch/0,390...39125887,00.htm
You're a fool.
QUOTE(WiseguY @ Dec 24 2004, 12:49 PM)
You're a fool.
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Why do you say that?
http://www.kurzweilai.net/index.html?flash=2
-The singularity
-Will machines become concious
-nanotechnology
-living forever
-Dangerous futures
-point - counterpoint
-How to build a brain
-Also has breakthrough news part ( top right )
-Vitrual Realities
-Quantum computing
-and more
http://www.meta-library.net/gnr/qa-frame.html
http://www.uctv.tv/ondemand/
http://www.nanoindustries.com/streaming.html
http://singularity.manilasites.com/discuss/msgReader$32
These sites all have things to do with,
Biotechnology
Nanotechnology
Robotics
Future science and application
life extension and more
Space, universe
Creationism vs eveloution
Get an education
QUOTE(SilverCougar @ Dec 24 2004, 12:16 PM)
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What is also scary is in the bible it speaks of a gillatine and to be decapitated. They're practicing that again in some Texas areas.
Texas has the death penalty "by lethal injection". What would be the point of using something as crude as a guillotine? I doubt this is true.
QUOTE(whoa182 @ Dec 24 2004, 11:55 AM)
So in the future, Because of these chips we will be able to diagnose disease before it ever becomes a problem, it will make your life more comfortable, you will be healthier because of it.
Technology is something you are not going to stop. So live with it, because you cant live without it
Also I havnt even gone into the part where we will be able to enhance ourselfs in many ways
Being able to access Computers with our thoughts alone. Already been done by scanning around 100-200 nuerons. more tests being done in 05. At first we will see these devices being non invasive. then they will make there way into our bodies, its just a matter of time.
The Post human era is coming, You will be apart of it.
remember this post
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Technology is something you are not going to stop. So live with it, because you cant live without it
Also I havnt even gone into the part where we will be able to enhance ourselfs in many ways
Being able to access Computers with our thoughts alone. Already been done by scanning around 100-200 nuerons. more tests being done in 05. At first we will see these devices being non invasive. then they will make there way into our bodies, its just a matter of time.
The Post human era is coming, You will be apart of it.
remember this post
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QUOTE(WiseguY @ Dec 24 2004, 12:49 PM)
You're a fool.
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alrighty first of all we can live without technology think about the cavemen early homo sapiens and by the way wiseguy i agree he is a fool just because youve read every fricking book on neuroligy or whatever the heck those things are doesnt mean your smart AND i dont want no fricking mini robots going into me ever seen the movie i robot itll probably happen robots will get to smart and think "why do i have to take orders maybe humans should be our slaves" the robots going into ur blood stream and killing the cancer cells i think maybe theyll have an error and like do something wrong and mess you up
The comment regarding wanting to "get chipped" as soon as possible represent such an ignorant thought process it is actually quite mind boggling. The government doesn't need to chiop anyone to run a perfectly peaceful and productive nation. The US and Canada have been fine for some 200 years without such implants. These chips will give the government unprecedented control of the population. No one will have provacy any more. I for one will not stand for that.
If they make it so no one can buy anything with out a chip, I will grow my own food, and raise my own animals. If they make it a law that every person must have a chip, I will resist it. If they bash down my front door in attempts to force me into getting a chip implant, I will shoot to kill. I will die before a chip is implanted in me.
"Technology is something you are not going to stop. So live with it, because you cant live without it"
That couldn't be more untrue. I could live a perfectly happy little life by nothing more than my own hands. I could build myself a shelter, farm vegetables, keep animals, and hunt animals. I don't need any technology to help me live, or make me happy. Infact, I truely believe I would be more happy if I dodn't have any technology at all. Even my beloved AMD powered computer!
Technology is power. Power corrupts.
If they make it so no one can buy anything with out a chip, I will grow my own food, and raise my own animals. If they make it a law that every person must have a chip, I will resist it. If they bash down my front door in attempts to force me into getting a chip implant, I will shoot to kill. I will die before a chip is implanted in me.
"Technology is something you are not going to stop. So live with it, because you cant live without it"
That couldn't be more untrue. I could live a perfectly happy little life by nothing more than my own hands. I could build myself a shelter, farm vegetables, keep animals, and hunt animals. I don't need any technology to help me live, or make me happy. Infact, I truely believe I would be more happy if I dodn't have any technology at all. Even my beloved AMD powered computer!
Technology is power. Power corrupts.
Computers already control us to a certain extent. If we swtich them off then the world would be in total chaos. The world couldnt function properly anymore, it would affect every part of the economy. Almost every business. Everything.
Just look at what happens with Power outages. Look at NY the other year.
All of you here will see these improvments in other people and you will want it when you know its safe. Like I said, its going to be apart of your life no matter what you want.
You will never get as much privacy anymore as you would like. Computer chips will be placed in nearly EVERYTHING, Also when camera phones got introduced it affected privacy.
First, chips will be in everything from Food packaging, furniture, medicin, clothes, jewelry, wood, glass, plastic, books. Im sure you can think of more.
This is already happening by the way. by having inexpensive chips in items, companies will get to know your shopping habits, They will also be able to track where their products go.( just like loyalty cards ).
Your Home will become SMART, it will have sensors in the walls. you will be able to have your wall tunred into a TV screen. doors will open for you. Your House will know you're home.
Then Chips will start moving into humans, why? Check my other posts lol
Just look at what happens with Power outages. Look at NY the other year.
All of you here will see these improvments in other people and you will want it when you know its safe. Like I said, its going to be apart of your life no matter what you want.
You will never get as much privacy anymore as you would like. Computer chips will be placed in nearly EVERYTHING, Also when camera phones got introduced it affected privacy.
First, chips will be in everything from Food packaging, furniture, medicin, clothes, jewelry, wood, glass, plastic, books. Im sure you can think of more.
This is already happening by the way. by having inexpensive chips in items, companies will get to know your shopping habits, They will also be able to track where their products go.( just like loyalty cards ).
Your Home will become SMART, it will have sensors in the walls. you will be able to have your wall tunred into a TV screen. doors will open for you. Your House will know you're home.
Then Chips will start moving into humans, why? Check my other posts lol
we will also need a lot of technology to help us fight terrorism. its getting easier for terrorists to Geneticly engineer viruses.
If we want protection, we are going to have to give up some privacy.
If we want protection, we are going to have to give up some privacy.
I'd rather keep my privacy. People should take more responsibility for protecting themselves and the people around them, and stop expecting the goverment to do everything for them.
QUOTE(whoa182 @ Dec 24 2004, 01:06 PM)
QUOTE(WiseguY @ Dec 24 2004, 12:49 PM)
You're a fool.
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Why do you say that?
http://www.kurzweilai.net/index.html?flash=2
-The singularity
-Will machines become concious
-nanotechnology
-living forever
-Dangerous futures
-point - counterpoint
-How to build a brain
-Also has breakthrough news part ( top right )
-Vitrual Realities
-Quantum computing
-and more
http://www.meta-library.net/gnr/qa-frame.html
http://www.uctv.tv/ondemand/
http://www.nanoindustries.com/streaming.html
http://singularity.manilasites.com/discuss/msgReader$32
These sites all have things to do with,
Biotechnology
Nanotechnology
Robotics
Future science and application
life extension and more
Space, universe
Creationism vs eveloution
Get an education
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Yeah, you're lifespan's gonna increase and you'll wish you were dead. Unfortunately, with all those tracking device chips, you won't even be able to commit suicide because it will probably be againts the law, and they will instantly revive you. You all want to live forever, you're gonna get your wish - to a certain degree. Be careful what you wish for, as they say.
I'll send you a postcard
And yes, I'd say microchipping has everything to do with Revelation, I've known that for years. And guess what the root of it all is SCIENCE.
Ever seen a shuttle fall? Definantly fire in that one baby. And what is it that they say, that there's nothing up there in what has always been known to be the Heavens?
EVERYTHING SCIENCE DOES TRIES TO DISCREDIT GOD. Science, my dears, is part of the beast.
Science has become a religion in itself, hyporcritically trying to discredit every other possible religion there is. It is the death of religion
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...and it will perform great miracles and even make fire fall from the sky
Ever seen a shuttle fall? Definantly fire in that one baby. And what is it that they say, that there's nothing up there in what has always been known to be the Heavens?
EVERYTHING SCIENCE DOES TRIES TO DISCREDIT GOD. Science, my dears, is part of the beast.
Science has become a religion in itself, hyporcritically trying to discredit every other possible religion there is. It is the death of religion
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and it made war with the saints
and it's followers, who believe themselves to be as 'gods' themselves, believe they control everything. Yet, they themselves try to be the death of belief in everything but what they believe. Huh, I laugh in your face.
Again, not only is that simply your *belief*, Ashley, but its a pretty distorted belief also.
I don't advocate the "chipping" of humans. But I'd seriously make an exception in one case.
This is something I just can't figure out.
Either the news is now being suppressed, or the Islamic fundamentalists are simply trying new tactics. I'm speaking specifically of the beheadings and hostage takings.
What I would do, were I in charge of the U.S. military in Iraq, would be to insert a chip into every single contractor, peacekeeper, and the like that is currently trying to restore that country.
The reason?
They all seem to be taken to Al-Zarqawi. What better way to find the guy and rescue the hostages? They kidnap someone who's got the implant, and unwittingly set their own damn trap.
BAM. Game over pal.
This is something I just can't figure out.
Either the news is now being suppressed, or the Islamic fundamentalists are simply trying new tactics. I'm speaking specifically of the beheadings and hostage takings.
What I would do, were I in charge of the U.S. military in Iraq, would be to insert a chip into every single contractor, peacekeeper, and the like that is currently trying to restore that country.
The reason?
They all seem to be taken to Al-Zarqawi. What better way to find the guy and rescue the hostages? They kidnap someone who's got the implant, and unwittingly set their own damn trap.
BAM. Game over pal.
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Again, not only is that simply your *belief*, Ashley, but its a pretty distorted belief also.
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Stellar, despite what religious background a person may or may not have, that is what it is leading to. Microchipping, as I've said in another post, even of pets especially when it's done young can lead to death or severe health problems later. Microchipped pets have a shorter life span and many have spinal problems. I have pets and have found ways around microchipping for that very reason, many people want it abolished here, though it is law. You can't even give pets away if they aren't microchipped here. The only way around it is if you have show quality pets which have been registered.
Microchipping humans, even just the chip itself is going to cause problems, and they all claim that genetic engineering can make people live 'forever', and make them devoid of disease. What makes you think it won't happen?
I have a book here written in 1997 where some puritanical doctor that wanted people who were genetically 'inferior' to be legally castrated, so that furture genes will be 'pure'.
oy... I still say that no god will end the human race is our own arrogance against nature and ourselves.
Im completely against microchips. Lately i brought my dog into the vet and the vet suggested that they insert a microchip behind the dogs ear sa that if the dog gets lost and found again the can just scan behind the ear and on the computer it will show the location of where the dog lives as well as other information, it kinda is the same technology as library books. I read in my socials text book that they are wanting to do the same thing with children, complete with a tracking device to find the child if he gets lost or kidnapped. which sounds like a wonderful idea, but what would happen if this technology becomes used on adults too? if the technology were to be in the wrong hands, then the witness protection problem would be useless, not to mention the complete lack of privacey.
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oy... I still say that no god will end the human race is our own arrogance against nature and ourselves.
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Well that's your opinion. I don't agree with it, but you're entitled to it.
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Im completely against microchips. Lately i brought my dog into the vet and the vet suggested that they insert a microchip behind the dogs ear sa that if the dog gets lost and found again the can just scan behind the ear and on the computer it will show the location of where the dog lives as well as other information, it kinda is the same technology as library books. I read in my socials text book that they are wanting to do the same thing with children, complete with a tracking device to find the child if he gets lost or kidnapped. which sounds like a wonderful idea, but what would happen if this technology becomes used on adults too? if the technology were to be in the wrong hands, then the witness protection problem would be useless, not to mention the complete lack of privacey.
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Yes the privacy invasion alone is bad enough.
And thanks for posting, just to tell me something I already knew.
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Stellar, despite what religious background a person may or may not have, that is what it is leading to. Microchipping, as I've said in another post, even of pets especially when it's done young can lead to death or severe health problems later. Microchipped pets have a shorter life span and many have spinal problems. I have pets and have found ways around microchipping for that very reason, many people want it abolished here, though it is law. You can't even give pets away if they aren't microchipped here. The only way around it is if you have show quality pets which have been registered.
I wasnt talking about that, I was talking about your distorted view of science... but ok, lets talk about that. Mind showing me some news articles? How can putting a chip underneath the skin cause spinal problems?
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Microchipping humans, even just the chip itself is going to cause problems, and they all claim that genetic engineering can make people live 'forever', and make them devoid of disease. What makes you think it won't happen?
I do believe that genetic engineering can make people live longer lives and suffer from much less diseases...
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if the technology were to be in the wrong hands, then the witness protection problem would be useless, not to mention the complete lack of privacey.
The technology would need to be advanced because I'm pretty sure those chips arent gps transmitters. They're used for when a child or a pet is lost and found by someone, they take that child to the police or the pet to the vet and they scan the chip (because the chips not powerful enough to send a signal far away) to see info on who it belongs to.
how the hell would a microchip make you live longer.
ever hear about when cell say "ive lived long enough, i think i'll die now." when cells shut down
that is all natural, no microchip can make you live longer
ever hear about when cell say "ive lived long enough, i think i'll die now." when cells shut down
that is all natural, no microchip can make you live longer
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how the hell would a microchip make you live longer.
Indirectly: It could help discover more on why we die which could lead to a cure.
Directly: With enough technology it could release the appropriate medicin when it detects that you're sick... it could detect when you're getting sick (possibly with something fatal like cancer)...
At that point though, we'll probably have nanobots which would be even better than a chip.
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that is all natural, no microchip can make you live longer
Well, what about nanobots?
Nanobots are still theoretical. So are implantable GPS chips. The only thing that the chip everyone is talking about will do is recite a string of identification numbers that tell a scanner that you are you. That is it. No medical, personal, or private information of any sort whatsoever is in this chip; that needs to be downloaded from a server, just like the hospitals do now. The number on this chip does absolutely nothing that your social security number doesn't do as well.
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Nanobots are still theoretical.
They are, but I dont doubt that they'll exist eventually.
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he only thing that the chip everyone is talking about will do is recite a string of identification numbers that tell a scanner that you are you. That is it. No medical, personal, or private information of any sort whatsoever is in this chip; that needs to be downloaded from a server, just like the hospitals do now. The number on this chip does absolutely nothing that your social security number doesn't do as well.
But they also think "Chip? That means theres a secret GPS transmitter and camera imbedded inside it!"
Even if you wont get one implanted for a daily check you will be able to visit the doctor and he will take a Tiny bit of blood, using something like what Diabetics use. Within 10 minutes you will find out if you have certain genetic disorder or mabey cancer.. mabey just a virus.
So it will help the average life span anyway. So in a way by microchips getting smaller and more powerful and more accessible at home we will see a lot more people living longer
Market for Biochips
A recent research report by Bioinsights, quoted in Electronic Business, April 2000, gives the following market for biochips, in millions of US dollars:
Year----DNA------Chip-------Protein----------Total
1999----$158-----$14----------$4-------------$176
2001----$249-----$35----------$8-------------$292
2005----$745-----$157-------- $68------------$950
So clearly. Its a RAPIDLY growing market
heres some websites about these biochips.
Protein chips could speed cancer detection
http://www.embedded.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=15306197
Protein chips could detect cancer earlier
http://www.eetimes.com/story/OEG20031020S0023
Nano-Medicine
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/health/082103_h...nomedicine.html
This is part of the article You can read on by going to the site above
These images are not from a comic book. Ralph Merkle says you're looking at the future of medicine.
"We can envision a day when you could inject billions of these devices that would float around in your body," said Ralph Merkle, Ph.D., Foresight Institute. "We'll be able to heal and cure conditions that today would be considered completely hopeless."
They're called nanorobots. They will be able to detect and destroy cancer at the molecular level. Artificial red blood cells called respirocytes will look like red blood cells but act like mini scuba tanks holding up to one hundred times more oxygen and kick in during an emergency. These biocapsules being studied by Tejal Desai at Boston University could reverse other medical conditions. They are implantable devices with rows of pores seven to ten nanometers in size. Large enough to release cell secreted hormones but small enough that anti-bodies can't get in.
So it will help the average life span anyway. So in a way by microchips getting smaller and more powerful and more accessible at home we will see a lot more people living longer
Market for Biochips
A recent research report by Bioinsights, quoted in Electronic Business, April 2000, gives the following market for biochips, in millions of US dollars:
Year----DNA------Chip-------Protein----------Total
1999----$158-----$14----------$4-------------$176
2001----$249-----$35----------$8-------------$292
2005----$745-----$157-------- $68------------$950
So clearly. Its a RAPIDLY growing market
heres some websites about these biochips.
Protein chips could speed cancer detection
http://www.embedded.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=15306197
Protein chips could detect cancer earlier
http://www.eetimes.com/story/OEG20031020S0023
Nano-Medicine
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/health/082103_h...nomedicine.html
This is part of the article You can read on by going to the site above
These images are not from a comic book. Ralph Merkle says you're looking at the future of medicine.
"We can envision a day when you could inject billions of these devices that would float around in your body," said Ralph Merkle, Ph.D., Foresight Institute. "We'll be able to heal and cure conditions that today would be considered completely hopeless."
They're called nanorobots. They will be able to detect and destroy cancer at the molecular level. Artificial red blood cells called respirocytes will look like red blood cells but act like mini scuba tanks holding up to one hundred times more oxygen and kick in during an emergency. These biocapsules being studied by Tejal Desai at Boston University could reverse other medical conditions. They are implantable devices with rows of pores seven to ten nanometers in size. Large enough to release cell secreted hormones but small enough that anti-bodies can't get in.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/...tm#startcontent
Tiny robot walker made from DNA
Scientists have created a microscopic walking robot using only the building blocks of life: DNA.
The tiny walker is only 10 nanometres long and has been described as a major step forward in nanotechnology.
Its basicly invisible. 50.000 times smaller than a tip of a stran of hair
Tiny robot walker made from DNA
Scientists have created a microscopic walking robot using only the building blocks of life: DNA.
The tiny walker is only 10 nanometres long and has been described as a major step forward in nanotechnology.
Its basicly invisible. 50.000 times smaller than a tip of a stran of hair
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You're a fool.
didn't your Jesus say something about those who called their brother a fool was going to hell?
As for Texas using anything other than lethal injection, anything you have heard is false. Only the state can execute and the state uses only lethal injection - I used to be a member of the Texas Dept of Criminal Justice and still have many friends there and can equivocally say that Texas uses only injections!
I don't think it is ever going to happen. But if it does we are going WAY to far. People deserve their own privacy. But if the same time it may be good. I don't know I am just plane confused. But I really don't think it is going to happened and if it does I will be dead by then.
No, you will see it in a few years time.
I hope this website is still up and you all are still posting around here
I hope this website is still up and you all are still posting around here
I do have a question about the original posters comment:
How was this known? Isn't that a pretty big inference?
But as to the mandatory micro-chip, I say "No way." Maybe it's my Southern American uber-independant nature, but there is no way it is right for a government to infringe upon it citizens to such a degree. These people in power don't "care" about me as a person. In no way would this benefit the citizen. I think the idea is horrifying and just too damn Orwellian.
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"Amazing how When I was little. I was told about the mark of the beast and how it will be placed into our hands or forehead.
It's alway's been known that the mark would be a bar code."
It's alway's been known that the mark would be a bar code."
How was this known? Isn't that a pretty big inference?
But as to the mandatory micro-chip, I say "No way." Maybe it's my Southern American uber-independant nature, but there is no way it is right for a government to infringe upon it citizens to such a degree. These people in power don't "care" about me as a person. In no way would this benefit the citizen. I think the idea is horrifying and just too damn Orwellian.
I dont think the government is going to force chips into people... I think companies are going to do it. The government doesnt force you to have a job, does it? But its damn hard to go through life without win. Whats gonna happen is more and more of society and companies are probably going to require you to have the chip, either that or you're put last on the list because you dont have one.
Jennrose, you already have a number. It's on your social security card. All the chip is going to do is keep that number away from anybody who would want to steal it from you.
Chips are simply going to become a matter of convenience. People with chips will be able to skate through lines at supermarkets and malls. They will be able to get their passports, and security clearances faster. They will be as secure from identity theft as they can get. In a decade's time, people will look at those without chips in the same way that today's youth c*** a disdainful eye at the older members of society who refuse to have anything to do with computers.
Chips are simply going to become a matter of convenience. People with chips will be able to skate through lines at supermarkets and malls. They will be able to get their passports, and security clearances faster. They will be as secure from identity theft as they can get. In a decade's time, people will look at those without chips in the same way that today's youth c*** a disdainful eye at the older members of society who refuse to have anything to do with computers.
ROFL, if the SSN is our beasty's number... then every single natural born american's not going to heaven ;P
thing about chips this way.
Is the government forcing you to buy an up to date computer? No. But, if you want good applications and games, you might not be able to get them without an up to date computer. Maybe your job will require you to use a certain application, but your old computer isnt capable of using it, therefor you can either loose your job, or buy an up to date computer.
Is the government forcing you to buy an up to date computer? No. But, if you want good applications and games, you might not be able to get them without an up to date computer. Maybe your job will require you to use a certain application, but your old computer isnt capable of using it, therefor you can either loose your job, or buy an up to date computer.
I just don't see how that's comparable. My computer is not IN me, going everywhere I go like a homing beacon. Just like my SSN, I can leave the card at home if I want.
I'm sorry, I'm not trying to sound like someone who is against progress, I just don't like the idea of being tracked, which is what it seems like this would be most used for. I like to be able to be anonymous if I want. I'm just not ready to be a part of the 'global village' on such a scale...maybe I've read too many sci-fi novels, but it's a little much.
I'm sorry, I'm not trying to sound like someone who is against progress, I just don't like the idea of being tracked, which is what it seems like this would be most used for. I like to be able to be anonymous if I want. I'm just not ready to be a part of the 'global village' on such a scale...maybe I've read too many sci-fi novels, but it's a little much.
WHAT CHIPS!? Why the hell haven't I heard of this!?!?!? Since when are they going to pull us into some sergical room and stick a freaking chip in our brain!?!?
relax, they ain't. It's only voluntary.
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I just don't see how that's comparable. My computer is not IN me, going everywhere I go like a homing beacon. Just like my SSN, I can leave the card at home if I want.
I was only using the example to show how I think chipping could be "forced" on the population. It probably wont be the government, it'll be society its self. Another example would be a car. The government doesnt force you to have a car, but how would you imagine your life without a car?
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relax, they ain't. It's only voluntary.
Alright people then stop lying man... freaking scared me.
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