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CodnChips
Just thought i'd ask this as a bit of festive fun.....I know people have analysed it before, but what do you all think? santa.gif

Can Santa clause really deliver all his presents in one night?

I was thinking....if he had to go round the whole world then its been said previously that he'd be travelling so fast, he'd burst into flames....BUT then i thought, he doesnt have to do the whole world....
Firstly, he'd only be delivering to children right?......then only to Christian children...then only to GOOD christian children....
Most of the asian continent are non-christian so he'd probably not have to stop there at all so he's got all night to start in Oceania (Aus, NZ etc)...then fly to europe (going with the turn of the earth to increase the 'night'.....then onto the states/canada etc....

What do you think?....anyone good at maths to crunch the figures? wacko.gif
Looter
I think you really miss the point of Santa, first you have to believe in Santa, since most people don't believe in Santa, that really cuts down on the number of trips he has to make. Second, unlike certain religions we know of, faith is not enough, you actually have to be good, thats probably the reason why he delivers real goods and not the pie in the sky when you die scene, So basically Santa comes to my home and a couple of kids in Ethiopia and thats about it. He's got lots of time.
Uversa
Saint nicholas did good and gave presents to people back in the day, the story of him, however, has continued to be told to children to make christmas a slightly more magical time. It sure used to make my christmas' that bit more special when I was a kid. original.gif
pete juffalo
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Can Santa clause really deliver all his presents in one night?
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No! because he doesnt exist thumbsup.gif
Mad Manfred
He has warp-drive...duh.
educated cAVEmAN
... NO NO NO... it would take santa over all night just to do one city eg new york...no way he can do the whole world of beleivers in one night....but none of this matters because he doesnt exist...and if and wen i have kids i refuse to lie to them and tell them of such things as santa or the easter bunny...the gifts will be from me, so many kids are devastated when they find out theres no santa, y put them through that?
HolyDevil2053
I think in this world today...it could be done. How many kids do you know that have been GENUINELY good ALL year long???
Very few in my opinion....lol, especially not me. no.gif tongue.gif
Kellalor
The Physics of Santa Claus

Every Christmas, calculations circulate that have been dubbed "The Physics of Santa Claus". The calculations cast doubt as to whether Santa Claus could possibly deliver gifts to all the world’s good children – and still remain within the laws of physics. To deliver gifts to all who deserve them, they assert, Santa would need to move so fast that he would vaporise due to air resistance, be torn to pieces by gravitational forces or suffer other terrible fates we wouldn’t wish for Santa Claus.

Many fall for these calculations. Yes, there has even been one instance in which a vicar was criticised for using them to explain to small children that Santa does not exist. Luckily, some would say, the vicar has apologised to the traumatised children.

Because, even though the physics of the calculations is apparently good, the reasoning rests on a completely wrong premise, namely that Santa Clause does not exist. Even small children understand that this premise is completely wrong!

How will Santa Claus ensure that all the good children receive their presents and once again save Christmas? To clear up this important question, Internet magazine forskning.no has gathered four the country’s sharpest researchers: astrophysicist Knut Jørgen Røed Ødegaard, professor of physics Gaute Einevoll, professor of mathematics Nils Lid Hjort and Elf expert Ane Ohrvik.

They’ve taken the job very seriously.

Ion-shield

If Santa Claus is to deliver all the gifts to all the good children, his sleigh must fly so fast that he would burn up due to air resistance. But it has already been documented that Santa has no problem climbing down a chimney with a fire burning below. So how does Santa solve the problem of heat?

"Santa obviously has an ion-shield of charged particles, held together by a magnetic field, surrounding his entire sleigh. This is how he solves the heat problem," points out Knut Jørgen Røed Oedegaard, who also casts a new light in the night sky:

"There are many meteor showers in December. Many astrophysicists, including apparently serious ‘celebrity’ astrophysicists at the university, who maintain that these lights in the sky are the result of dust particles that burn up as they enter our atmosphere. But this is nonsense, because they ignore the truth: That the lights are the result of Santa Claus moving out of and into the atmosphere as he travels around the globe delivering Christmas presents!”

Oedegaard believes that Santa saves time, energy and air resistance by producing gifts out in space. A new snowboard or doll weights quite little when it is high above the earth.

"Likewise, Santa Claus doesn’t travel in our four dimensions (remember that time is the fourth dimension), but makes use of some 11 dimensions. These dimensions make it quite easy to pick up gifts from his warehouse at the North Pole," emphasises Oedegaard, while Nils Lid Hjort and Gaute Einevoll feel that recent string-theory allows for the use of at least 26 dimensions.

The more dimensions, the easier to deliver gifts.

Einstein = Santa Claus?

Such physics are Gaute Einevoll’s speciality, and he brings a bold hypothesis to the table:

"We are talking about moving matter, and no one had more knowledge about matter than Albert Einstein. Do I need to point out that the dishevelled physicist reminds many of Santa Claus? Einstein published his special theory of relativity in 1905 and his general theory of relativity in 1916, but after Coca-Cola more or less defined Santa’s ‘look’ in 1930, Einstein didn’t publish that much more. I have wondered if that’s because Einstein became Santa," speculates Einevoll.

He believes that the reason that Einstein never was able to link together quantum theory and relativity is due to the fact that the famous tussled head was busy in secret helping Santa to become a kind of “Quanta Claus”.

Coincidence? Certainly not!

Santa Claus – A Threat to the Environment?

"Even though Santa uses both the ion-shield and travels between dimensions, the problem of air resistance remains," allows astrophysicist Oedegaard.

"There are so many more people now, and so many more good children, that there are more gifts and thus more air resistance. Therefore, it is natural to explain the warming up of the polar region with all the extra heat that is released. But this problem will solve itself over time, because if children are too good, then all the ice at the North Pole melt. Then there will be no more winter, and thus no more Christmas."

"This leads to a discussion of ‘the bad children problem’: Why do bad children also receive gifts and whether, out of respect for the environment, children should be a little more naughty – without creating more problems with discipline in school.”

Elf expert Ane Ohrvik believes we should turn it around.

"Maybe Santa Clause should raise his standards?” she asks, and recommends a point system for naughty children. Santa has been receiving more and more mail every year, and for him to also send a “report card” could create a big postal problem, she points out.

Nils Lid Hjort suggests that the bureaucracy can be cut back if every family reports on children’s behaviour direct to the local authorities.

Santa Sees You

Another question is how Santa Claus knows how nice children are. Gaute Einevoll suggests that children’s winter caps can measure brain activity in order to read the infinitesimal magnetic fields that are generated by their thoughts. This information is then forwarded to Rudolf’s antlers, which of course act as an advanced antenna system.

Ane Ohrvik points out that many Americans believe that Rudolf’s red nose is a very advanced navigation system and everyone knows the saying “Santa Claus sees you” – something some interpret to mean that Santa Claus has psychic abilities.

In Nils Lid Hjort’s opinion, it suggests co-operation between Santa Claus and the defunct East-European secret police: STASI.

"The STASI archives are still secret, and this is a clear indication that information about nice and naught children is there,” believes Hjort, who doesn’t rule out co-operation with local security services, which often have the latest information on whether a child is naughty or nice.

Flying Reindeer

Another apparent impossibility with Santa Claus are his reindeer, who don’t just plod along. Nils Lid Hjort doesn’t find it so strange that there are flying reindeer.

"You find flying creatures everywhere, and dinosaurs are a good example, but now they have developed feathers and are birds. Therefore it is no great paradox that we have flying reindeer,” he believes.

Gaute Einevoll, who works with physics in organic systems, points out that it is a bit odd that reindeer don’t have wings. But Ødegaard has elegantly solved the problem:

"Santa Claus of course uses vacuum energy. The sleigh and reindeer use repulsive energy to compensate for the force of gravity and therefore can fly."

And with that, the conversation turns to a discussion whether Santa has chosen the North Pole because of its social, religious and political neutrality; multiple universes with a Santa in each; and so on.


Papa With a Fake Beard?

There are quite a few flippant and speculative assertions about Santa Claus. The most ridiculous of these is that Santa Claus is just papa who has dressed up in the garage:

“This is the worst I have heard,” says Nils Lid Hjort.

He is a professor and knows what he’s talking about.

Although Hjort admits that a visit from Santa Claus often happens while pappa is out shovelling snow, there are many examples in which both Santa and pappa are in the same place at the same time, which weakens the argument that there is some connection between the two.

"I want to comment on the alternative situations: Of course you can find many trivial and sometimes fake Santas out there. But that doesn’t mean that you won’t find some real Santas," says Einevoll, who adds:

"If I lived alone at the North Pole and were to visit children and their mothers, I would want to do it when their father was out, he says, and suggests that this is the source for the socially realistic popular song 'I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus'."

All together the panel the panel agrees without doubt that Santa Claus not only makes use of advanced physics, but he is also a brilliant organiser.

"Santa lives at the North Pole and there isn’t so much happening aside from the occasional polar explorer. So he can use the whole year for self improvement,” points out Gaute Einevoll.

Therefore, all children of all ages can relax: The laws of physics assure us that Christmas will come this year as usual!

The Physics of Santa Claus

Merry Christmas! santa.gif

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DarkSinister

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No! because he doesnt exist thumbsup.gif
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Say it isn't so! Say it isn't so! crying.gif haha jk! But then if there were a santa, i doubt he'll make it due to the vast population and area he has to cover.
educated cAVEmAN
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The Physics of Santa Claus


i dont wanna quote the whole thing...i cannot beleive i read that whole thing...i say shouldnt these people be doing something more constructive with their time?
and yet i cant help but attempt to solve one of their problems...

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There are so many more people now, and so many more good children, that there are more gifts and thus more air resistance. Therefore, it is natural to explain the warming up of the polar region with all the extra heat that is released. But this problem will solve itself over time, because if children are too good, then all the ice at the North Pole melt. Then there will be no more winter, and thus no more Christmas."


perhaps santa uses this heat to heat his many workshops and houses and stables... rofl.gif ...i know it sounds crazy but hey...look at the rest of it
CatAstrofix
Hmm.... beside the belief of santa... the traditions are various. In Finland Santa visits during the christmas eve, in many other places during the night or in the morning of christmas day. In some places the gifts are delivered on new years day... So, santa does have more than one night to complete his task. wink2.gif
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