Just thought I'd let you guys know if your interested.


Channel 4 in the UK TV and Digital

Now? Also, what station is that?

Ok, what are they saying?

They were even talking about the book of enoch! I'm sure that enoch fanatic will be interested. The show was good and I think it clearly pointed out much of it they haven't a clue as to who wrote it. They said Peter was unable to read or write. Maybe he dictated? A religion was made. Hand crafted and created and used as a tool of control. Still is.

Ok. Whats the book of ENoch? People hjave talked about it here, but i still dont know.

I'll post what I got of it when it finishes at 10:30.

its 1 christian investigating the bible and showing the old testiment and the new testiment contradictions and saying that people shouldnt take the bible litrually as a historical fact. ALso tracing Jesus steps and investigating more about his time and investigating the People that wrote the new testiment.

Quite interesting, because a christian is investigating his own faith and he tells how different it is from what he is finding out to what he was brought up to believe...

EDIT:

He also spoke to George Bush spirtual advisor and he says that the president makes his decisions by the bible guiding him, he also says that You are basicly only a better person if you believe in god and the bible.

In conclusion, The guy that investigated said that you should always question things because they are not as simple as they make things out to be, especially the bible.

things were edited out of the bible if they didnt like them, The bible was controlled by Powerful people that made sure that the bible only said what they believed. The bible was used to control. it was used in politics. He found out that the bible wasnt wrote in the time of jesus there for because they werent eye witness accounts you shouldnt take everyting you read in the bible litrually.

In the end he said, use some intelligence, investigate even if you are a believer. because its amazing what you will find out.

Im sure some other person here could explain it better than i have. I started watching it half way through , lasted 2 hours i think


I FOUND somethings about IT HERE :
http://www.channel4.com/culture/microsites...rnot/bible.html
havnt checked out the website, but it might have some info

He also spoke to George Bush spirtual advisor and he says that the president makes his decisions by the bible guiding him, he also says that You are basicly only a better person if you believe in god and the bible.

Be careful here. I personally believe the president is a good man. (Even though the US was responsible for Sept11th and lied about it) I see some good in his face. However, evil wears many masks, and none so dangerous as the mask of virtue. For all we know, Bush is a Luciferian tyrant, who is televising propoganda about his supposed spiritual advisor in order to make people, and christians, to trust in him more. You never know, do you? All I say, is be careful about this.

In conclusion, The guy that investigated said that you should always question things because they are not as simple as they make things out to be, especially the bible.

Truth.

things were edited out of the bible if they didnt like them,

So TV tells us. And so I personally believe as well. However, this does not discredit the source.

The bible was controlled by Powerful people that made sure that the bible only said what they believed.

The catholic church is largely responsible for much of this. They needed a religion that invited the pagans into it. They elevated Mary to a height of a Godess for this reason. This is also the reason they decided that Dec 25th, which was a pagan holiday, would suddenly become the Birthday of Jesus Christ. Catholics use the scripture to control the masses. This is not so with non-catholic believers.

The bible was used to control.

As is every book of religion.

He found out that the bible wasnt wrote in the time of jesus

Something that would be hard to proove for sure, no matter how valid it may be.

there for because they werent eye witness accounts you shouldnt take everyting you read in the bible litrually.

And eye witness accounts would somehow seal in the authenticity? There are no eye-witness accounts of evolution, but people seem to strongly believe it it's validity.

In the end he said, use some intelligence, investigate even if you are a believer.
I fully agree. It is only healthy to question your beliefs. How is anyone to grow in them if they do not?


In closing however, regardless of if everysingle fact in this presentation was true, it is very dangerous to watch TV these days. There really isn't any proof that what we are seeing bears any semblence of truth whatsoever. Examples? We were lied to en masse so heavily about sept 11th that our government fully suceeded in brainwashing the majority of the public into believing they have absolutely no part in the attacks. The scarey thing is, anyone can find evidence with just a bit of digging. That shows you how pathetic your average citizen truely is: They take everything at face value. Imagine the power of TV for a minute. Imagine you are part of a group that runs the most powerful countries of the world, and you manage to get a box into every single home that shows whatever you want, whenever you want. You feed people innocent programs, and reputible news to that over a generation or two, the people learn not to question it. Suddenly, you have a power over the masses that has been totally unprecedented throughout ALL of history. No emperor or king or any empire has ever had this ability to put information into every person's home. No empire has ever had the ability to condition every person with daily information of their choosing.


Question everything. You faith. Your God. Your Information. Your science. Your schools. Your teachings. Your leaders. Your government. Your friends. Your enemies.

And truely LEARN how to question things. A good start is by questioning the things you have never TRUELY questioned, such as this one: The government was not involved in the Sept 11th attacks.

Remember, the key to knowledge in the 21st century does NOT lie in the persuit of facts, but rather the uncovering of secrets.

just thought id let you all know that I think its either on AGAIN right now, Channel 4 on UK television and on digital

WHO WROTE the BIBLE.

Its either continued from last time or a repeat. i dont know yet because i missed half of it last time.

just wanting to know if anyone believes in god?

Why yes I do! I believe in the Deist Creator, but not in the Xian demongod with the uncontrollable temper, inconsistent desires and (although all-knowing, all-seeing) inability to forsee what man is going to do tommorrow, much less next week!