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waterjet
I watched a show on the History Channel last night all about the end times and the book of Revelation. It's fun television as was the Davinci Code. I can't believe all the people that buy in to this stuff as being true. Just think about all the authors that have made a ton of money of their end times books. When the powers that be were cherry picking what so called sacred writings would make it into the bible, had they left out the tripping ST John's Revelations ,they would have really put a
lot of future writers out of business.

Tonight they have a show all about hell and the devil! That should be a fun one. They were saying that the number of devil worshipers in the U.S. is in the millions.
Wow! So many seekers looking for their guru with a pipeline to the truth. I guess some decided it was Satan. Let the games begin! The classic tale of good versus evil or also known as the game of black and white!

Breaking news from Renne La Chateau .....what the priest really found was the nails used in the cross and a note from Lew Minatti explaning everything pertaining to the origins of man and Planet X !!

beowulf
If any of the "gloom and doom" were to ever come true, I just might believe in it! You have people screaming from the rooftops about the world ending - for nearly 2000 years now and their own "Messiah" said it would be during the lifetime of those living in 1st Century CE Palestine! laugh.gif grin2.gif w00t.gif wacko.gif wacko.gif wacko.gif
MedicTJ
If you're saying that you're not worried in the least bit because of those who believe in the "Messiah" then you need to take a better look around you.

I don't care what religion you practice or follow. And I don't care how much you like to ridicule others for their beliefs.

But the one thing you absolutely CANNOT deny is that this world has NEVER been as dangerous in the past as it is right now.

We've got Muslim extremists that want nothing more than to enforce their will on others. To be able to put themselves into power and beat everyone else in society down. To rule the world. We've got Christian extremists who want the same thing. We've gone through a complete breakdown of a major super power in the last 15 years (USSR) and there are STILL literally TONS of nuclear materials that are unaccounted for.

We've got people hijacking planes and flying them into buildings.

We've got people strapping bombs to themselves and walking into crowded areas of innocent civilians.

We've got people running around taking hostages and chopping their heads off....then videotaping it for the rest of the sick f*cks in this world who get off by looking at that kind of thing.

We've got a near revolution in Saudi Arabia that is at hand with the worlds major oil reserves at stake.....and the biggest Islamic fundamentalist organization gunning for control of that country.

We've got nuclear idiots in Iran who'd like to have the rest of the world actually believe that their lust for nuclear materials is strictly for peaceful purposes.

And if that's not enough, we've got another nuclear moron in North Korea that gets all liquored up on Scotch and good ole American cowboy movies and who's just ITCHING to piss anyone off.

You don't think the end times of this world are near at hand?

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You think there's gonna be peace?

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SilverCougar
Phhhht. The only reason it looks that way os because we have better technilogical advances and media covorage. We are so more in the know about what's going on in the world now then we were say the past century that it looks horrible.

Remember, we've lived through 2 world wars that are horribly worse then anything that's going on now. We just didn't know half the crap that was happening back then. Now, we can't even turn around without knowing that the president of the US sneezed yesterday at 3:42 pm.

JennRose
QUOTE(SilverCougar @ Dec 27 2004, 02:57 PM)
Phhhht.  The only reason it looks that way os because we have better technilogical advances and media covorage.  We are so more in the know about what's going on in the world now then we were say the past century that it looks horrible.

Remember, we've lived through 2 world wars that are horribly worse then anything that's going on now.  We just didn't know half the crap that was happening back then.  Now, we can't even turn around without knowing that the president of the US sneezed yesterday at 3:42 pm.
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I agree with SilverCougar. The fact that the entire world is logged in together makes it all seem that much worse. Before we only had our little area to worry about, but now we know who was murdered in Australia, to who was blown up in Bahgdad. It's just innundating us because we have satellite links to every corner of the world.
waterjet
QUOTE(MedicTJ @ Dec 27 2004, 06:47 PM)

We've got people hijacking planes and flying them into buildings.

We've got people strapping bombs to themselves and walking into crowded areas of innocent civilians.

We've got people running around taking hostages and chopping their heads off....then videotaping it for the rest of the sick f*cks in this world who get off by looking at that kind of thing.

We've got a near revolution in Saudi Arabia that is at hand with the worlds major oil reserves at stake.....and the biggest Islamic fundamentalist organization gunning for control of that country.

We've got nuclear idiots in Iran who'd like to have the rest of the world actually believe that their lust for nuclear materials is strictly for peaceful purposes.

And if that's not enough, we've got another nuclear moron in North Korea that gets all liquored up on Scotch and good ole American cowboy movies and who's just ITCHING to piss anyone off.

You don't think the end times of this world are near at hand?

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You think there's gonna be peace?

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Calm Down! There has never been nor will there ever be peace! As soon as you figure that out and stop worrying about all the crap you mentioned you'll be better off. End times?? BS! Man has been involved in tribal warfare from the begining. It will never change and there will never be peace on this planet. Worrying about it is a waste of time. In fact worry and guilt are two useless emotions.
Jesus_Freak
so if you're convicted of a crime that you did not commit, waterjet, and you get life in prison, you wouldn't want the person who really commited the crime to feel guilty about it, and come forward to get you out of jail? Guilt is far from useless..

and if you were kidnapped, and weren't heard from in 5 days, you wouldn't be saved, because nobody would worry about you, and no one would think to call the police...
SilverCougar
...?

Oh common... that was one of the lamest comparisons ever.
girty1600
Pretty much!

There has alway been war, there will always be war. Anyone who thinks differently is a romantic, it's just not possible. Sad but true.
saint seiya
yes you are right theres always been war but this time with the tecnology and weapons we have, we can destroy the world, and the people that have those weapons are not exactly good people.
beowulf
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But the one thing you absolutely CANNOT deny is that this world has NEVER been as dangerous in the past as it is right now.

Mankind is in no more trouble now than in the past. The major difference is that in the past it was Mother Nature plotting to destroy us and now it is the lunatic fringe!
QUOTE
You don't think the end times of this world are near at hand?

Nope, I don't but then I also don't obsess about it either. If it happens, it happens, if it doesn't - all the same. I figure that 100,000 years ago, the caveman Og was obsessing about how all the lunatics with fire were gonna destroy the world and we are still here!
QUOTE
You think there's gonna be peace?

Nope, there has never been peace on this world ever - man and all the other creatures can not and are not meant to live in peace!
QUOTE
If you're saying that you're not worried in the least bit because of those who believe in the "Messiah" then you need to take a better look around you.

Nope, not worried that they are even remotely correct, in fact more and more each day more people wake up to the absurdities of organized religion! yes.gif

MedicTJ
Excuse me....but I think comparing "fire" with a caveman to a thermonuclear device is just a TAD insane.

JUST A TAD
beowulf
Fire was the caveman's thermonuclear device! It's all in how you look at it! You see, I am not afraid to die, I know my Creator and am at peace with him.....If you are an Xian, I can understand why you obsess over the end of the world where a capricious demongod can abitrarily send you to hell because you said "damn" one time and forgot to ask forgiveness. Man has been on the edge of destruction since there was man....we just worry about slightly different ways to being destroyed! yes.gif
MedicTJ
I just can't believe you're comparing a caveman with fire to a thermonuclear device....the strongest of which could annihilate an entire country......

Now if you were to maybe compare the impact of a large comet or asteroid to a nuclear weapon, then that would be one thing.

But listen to what you're saying! It's laughable!
SilverCougar
The difference is... Man made fire. Man made the thermonuclear device. Not any god. So if we blow ourselves up... WE did it.. not a god. But that *STILL* does not mean we're at any end times. That just means we gotta hope no one's stupid enough to use it.
FreyKade
QUOTE(MedicTJ @ Dec 27 2004, 11:36 PM)
I just can't believe you're comparing a caveman with fire to a thermonuclear device....the strongest of which could annihilate an entire country......

Now if you were to maybe compare the impact of a large comet or asteroid to a nuclear weapon, then that would be one thing.

But listen to what you're saying!  It's laughable!
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back in the olden days.....the days when we were cave men, i dont think they had any such thing as countries.. they only had the area they lived in and their tribes. these tribes could be seen as their own little "countries". fire was quite unknown in those days. to have fire was to have a thermonuclear device.
MedicTJ
Can fire infect the Earth for a period of 15,000 years?

Fire kills, and has killed many people. Nuclear holocaust and fallout could be catastrophic to the point of extinction.

The two are NOT comparable!

This is ludicrous!
SilverCougar
Be that as it may... the point for me still stands. Humanity is the bringer of it's own demise due to their our ignorance. The nuclear bomb is just one part of this ignorance.
ABOTU
QUOTE(MedicTJ @ Dec 27 2004, 11:47 AM)
If you're saying that you're not worried in the least bit because of those who believe in the "Messiah" then you need to take a better look around you.

I don't care what religion you practice or follow.  And I don't care how much you like to ridicule others for their beliefs.

But the one thing you absolutely CANNOT deny is that this world has NEVER been as dangerous in the past as it is right now.

We've got Muslim extremists that want nothing more than to enforce their will on others.  To be able to put themselves into power and beat everyone else in society down.  To rule the world.  We've got Christian extremists who want the same thing.  We've gone through a complete breakdown of a major super power in the last 15 years (USSR) and there are STILL literally TONS of nuclear materials that are unaccounted for.

We've got people hijacking planes and flying them into buildings.

We've got people strapping bombs to themselves and walking into crowded areas of innocent civilians.

We've got people running around taking hostages and chopping their heads off....then videotaping it for the rest of the sick f*cks in this world who get off by looking at that kind of thing.

We've got a near revolution in Saudi Arabia that is at hand with the worlds major oil reserves at stake.....and the biggest Islamic fundamentalist organization gunning for control of that country.

We've got nuclear idiots in Iran who'd like to have the rest of the world actually believe that their lust for nuclear materials is strictly for peaceful purposes.

And if that's not enough, we've got another nuclear moron in North Korea that gets all liquored up on Scotch and good ole American cowboy movies and who's just ITCHING to piss anyone off.

You don't think the end times of this world are near at hand?

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You think there's gonna be peace?

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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that is really extreme, but to break it to all of yall it's the truth the world is awful and it's all gonna be downhill frome here. it's been going down forever and is gonna end soon. God Bless America, eh? What we really need is for God to bless all of us cause without it we're all gonna die(not that we aren't anyway)
ABOTU
Can I just comment quickly, that I think America has doe one right thing over the last few years. That was bring everyone together, even if it was to come against us. Have any of you read Enders game? It's like the world going against the "buggers" In fact in my PACE class we talked about this... I'll shutup now
JennRose
Have you guys read much history? (I'm not being sarcastic here) Mankind is not changing. There have ALWAYS been atrocities: wars, plagues, torturous and cruel ruling powers, terrorism. Always, since man was able to create tools to use as weapons. It's no better or worse today, there are just more of us people, with bigger and fiercer weapons, and a lot of news coverage.

Yes, there is a very real threat from nuclear weapons now that hasn't been in centuries past, but it won't destroy the planet. We may succeed in destroying humanity, but probably not. We are a tenacious species, and have survived destruction on a global scale before under much more limited and trying circumstances.
SilverCougar
phht, knew that. Ever since Man could be the aggressor, he's always been the aggressor.
FreyKade
QUOTE(MedicTJ @ Dec 28 2004, 02:23 AM)
Can fire infect the Earth for a period of 15,000 years?

Fire kills, and has killed many people.  Nuclear holocaust and fallout could be catastrophic to the point of extinction.

The two are NOT comparable!

This is ludicrous!
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what im trying to say is that to the cave men, their WHOLE WORLD, probably consisted of a few tribes. lets say this one tribe knows only 2 other tribes...if one of those tribes is killed because of a fire incident, would that not be 1/3 of the population of their world gone??

its just like if you somehow went back in time with a lighter, the cave men would probably have worshiped you as a god.. a god that can create fire from his hands. but if someone pulled out a box and made a flame with it, you would say "thats nothing, can buy one of those for 50 pence"
JennRose
QUOTE(SilverCougar @ Dec 27 2004, 11:18 PM)
phht, knew that.  Ever since Man could be the aggressor, he's always been the aggressor.
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Yup, that's my point. Just trying to reassure the doom 'n gloom-ers. original.gif
Ashley-Star*Child
Maybe the majority of you should read my new post. You seem so sure that nothing will ever happen.
beowulf
What new wonders have you discovered in your musty old forgery, Ashley? Has Enoch told you what is gonna happen when Bush is outa office? You folks have been crying "end of times" for over 2000 years (even tho your little "messiah" said he would return within the life time of the disciples) and it hasn't happened yet, so why should we even worry about a religion that has never gotten it right? whistling2.gif
waterjet
QUOTE(Jesus_Freak @ Dec 27 2004, 09:14 PM)
so if you're convicted of a crime that you did not commit, waterjet, and you get life in prison, you wouldn't want the person who really commited the crime to feel guilty about it, and come forward to get you out of jail? Guilt is far from useless..

and if you were kidnapped, and weren't heard from in 5 days, you wouldn't be saved, because nobody would worry about you, and no one would think to call the police...
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That was hardly my point. For the average Joe worry and guilt are tools that imobilze one. No matter how much guilt one has they can't change the past. Let it go learn from your choices and move on. And don't confuse worry with concern which is what you did. Guilt robs people every day of living in the present as does worry about the future.
Stellar
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Maybe the majority of you should read my new post. You seem so sure that nothing will ever happen.


And what, you're the only one who "knows" whats going to happen?
SilverCougar
QUOTE(Stellar @ Dec 28 2004, 06:11 PM)
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Maybe the majority of you should read my new post. You seem so sure that nothing will ever happen.


And what, you're the only one who "knows" whats going to happen?
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Yeah, she does! Didn't you know that... rolleyes.gif
Falco Rex
Oh, don't be so hard on her. Many people have gone through thier lives being 100% sure that they're completely right and everyone else is wrong..Hitler, Stalin, Pope Innocent III, Ted Bundy..The list goes on.. tongue.gif
psycho skeptic
Wow...you guys are just filled to the gills with useless bickering. If there's one thing I've learned about this site is that its filled with tons of pessimists. Always tearing apart each other's ideals apart and calling each other morons. Aww well, war and belittling is human nature right? (I myself believe that humanity is more than a bunch of sickos who just want to destroy) no.gif
Consummate Deist
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Wow...you guys are just filled to the gills with useless bickering. If there's one thing I've learned about this site is that its filled with tons of pessimists. Always tearing apart each other's ideals apart and calling each other morons. Aww well, war and belittling is human nature right? (I myself believe that humanity is more than a bunch of sickos who just want to destroy)

Looking at the tenor of your posting, I hope you added yourself to the "useless bickering pessimists". Your outlook on mankind is extremely biased, jaded and just plain wrong. As Twain once said, "At his best, man is a tarnished angel and at his worse, a demon from Hell!" That means that there is still a modicum of hope for the species! yes.gif
SilverCougar
QUOTE(psycho skeptic @ Dec 29 2004, 03:48 AM)
Wow...you guys are just filled to the gills with useless bickering. If there's one thing I've learned about this site is that its filled with tons of pessimists. Always tearing apart each other's ideals apart and calling each other morons. Aww well, war and belittling is human nature right? (I myself believe that humanity is more than a bunch of sickos who just want to destroy)  no.gif
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rolleyes.gif Humans thrive on the bad. They live for doom and gloom... They look at natural things and blame it on a deity... saying that it's "God's will, or somebody elses fault!" (100 happy funshine points for whoever can guess the origon of that quote)

Heavens forbid that it's just the natural occurance of the world.
FreyKade
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God's will, or somebody elses fault


duke forrest from MASH
SilverCougar
DING DING DING!
FreyKade
woo hoo 100 funshine points
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