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Hotoke
islam is the right religion 111!!!!!!!!SHIFT!!!111
SilverCougar
Ok, all of the "Global Warming isn't real!!!" people... Are you guys atmospheric scientists? I doubt it. It isn't communists, or hippies.. or enviromentalists that are saying this... they do run with the ball yes.. but it's the scientists who have been doing accuall studies.

If you guys care to listen... It doesn't mean that the entire earth is getting hotter...

Colder climets are getting warmer, and warmer climets are getting colder. The average temperature in Alaska is alot warmer now then it was a decade or so ago.. even the Inuets who has lived there all thier lives have noticed. They can hardly go out far on the ice sheet to hunt seals because it's not thick enough to support them anymore. Hell people in Florida can tell you it's been getting colder there every winter.

The weather is going to get crazier... that's how Global Warming works.
Wings of Selkhet
*laughs* I wonder how many people it will take to convince Ashley that she's misguided. Wait, I take that back. Only her hallucinations can do that.
Hotoke
QUOTE(joc @ Dec 29 2004, 03:36 PM)
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In Enoch it said 'Notice how the seasons never change, but always stay the same, in the end, the seasons will change and mountains will melt like candlewax' Anyone heard of global warming?



Global warming is a myth perpetrated by the communists within the 'environ-mental movement'. Just so you know.

The seasons come and the seasons go and change is always taking place.
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Stellar
Well, I'm so eager to see how Ashley manages to spin this... "Those prophecies, while nearly the same if not the same as the ones in the bible, are wrong because it starts with a W!"
SilverCougar
Starts with a.. W?
Stellar
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Starts with a.. W?


Some of the prophecies I presented, start with a W (the way I wrote them)... so somehow thats gonna invalidate it I bet... Or something else on that level. Either that, or she's gonna ignore my post completely, like I think she has. She's been to the forum since I posted that, and I dont see her replying to my post...
SilverCougar
Repost one, I must have missed the thread. That and why is it starting with a W bad mojo
Ashley-Star*Child
QUOTE(tupac amaru @ Dec 29 2004, 01:05 PM)
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does he also have an IQ of 210?

Naw, she looks up to him - he must have an IQ of at least 255!
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If you (and those like you) do not respect my beliefs, why on Earth should I be respecting yours?

We don't respect your beliefs because you came on here with the attitude of "My way or the highway", I'm right and you're ever so wrong....Then the BS you put out would give even chimpanzees a laughing fit....For all your vaunted 210 IQ (this is not a measure of intelligence, but actually a measure of your ability to learn and has nothing to do with your ability to assimilate the info learned) you have a harrowing lack of knowledge of anything except Enoch...pitiful devil.gif devil.gif
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LMAO chimpanzees in a laughing fit? That must be YOU of course, since you believe you're a talking monkey, right? laugh.gif wacko.gif grin2.gif
Ashley-Star*Child
QUOTE(Stellar @ Dec 29 2004, 06:25 PM)
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If you found it in another 'bible' show it to me. That will give you something to do. Good luck


My god! Search for "End time prophecies" on google... its all christian sites! ohmy.gif

Damnit, I searched for "Muslim end time prophecies" and 99% of the results are STILL christian!

Anyway, heres some:

Signs of the end times, from the Koran:

Major Signs:

1. Gross materialism Seems to be happening.

2. Women outnumber men They're pretty close, dont know what it is currently though

3. Muslims defeat Jews in battle; Muslims and Christians battle unbelievers together, then Muslims defeat Christians in battle. Could be interpreted to mean Iraq and such



Minor Signs:

1. Increase in bloodshed and war Increase in bloodshed and war... hmm

2. Contraction of time Sunday was actually shorter because of that EQ...

3. Religious knowledge decreases Ive heard lots of people say less people know about religion these days...

4. Prevalence of the ungodly Hmm...

Some more:

Moral and social degredation, natural and cosmic disasters...

There will be great confusion, intence disputes, and violent deaths.

here will be three landslides before Qiyamah like never seen before. (There was a big one in Japan a few months back...)

The Earth will swallow everything above it and as a result, many people will die. (hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm)

Allah says, ''So thou wait for the day when the heaven shall bring a smoke manifest surrounding the people this is a painful Chastisement.'' ( Surah-Dhukan) Could be interpreted to mean 9/11. After all, there was tons of smoke...


Hadhrat Abu Musa Ash'ari (R.A.) narrates that Rasulallah (Sallallahu Aayhii Wassallam) said, "Qiyamah will come...

When it will be hot in winter (and vice versa). What were you saying about seasons changing...?

When people dispute over petty issues.

When oppression, jealousy, and greed become the order of the day.

When lies prevail over the truth.

When violence, bloodshed and anarchy become common.

When immorality overtakes shamelessness and is perpetrated publicly.

When legislation matters pertaining to Deen is handed over to the worst elements of the Ummat, and if people accept them and are satisfied with their findings, then such persons will not smell the fragrance of Jannat.

When the offspring become a cause of grief and anger (for their parents).

The following is part of a lengthy Hadith narrated by Hadhrat Abdullah Ibn Mas'ood (R.A.) when he inquired from Rasulallah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wassallam) about the Signs of Qiyamah.



Music and musical instruments will be found in every home.

People will indulge in homosexuality.

There will be an abundance of illegitimate children.

There will be an abundance of critics, tale-carriers, back- biters and taunters in society.

People will establish ties with strangers and sever relations with their near and dear ones.

Hypocrites will be in control of the affairs of the community and evil, immoral people will be at the helm of business establishments.

The Masjid will be decorated, but the hearts of the people will be devoid of guidance.

The courtyards of Masjids will be built beautifully and high mimbars (pulpits) will be erected.

Gangsters and evil people will prevail.

Various wines will be consumed excessively.

Abu Nadhrah says: "We were sitting in the company of Jabir bin Abdullah (R.A.) when he said: 'Soon the people of IRAQ will neither receive any food (grain) nor any money.'" We asked, "Why would such a thing happen?" He replied, "Because of the non-Arabs." (i.e they will prevent food from going into Iraq, in the form of "sanctions" to this day.) He then said: "Soon the people of Shaam (SYRIA) will neither receive any money nor grain." We asked as to why this would happen. He replied: "Because of the Romans (christians)."

Oh, but I guess you're right Ashley... Only the biblical prophecies can be interpreted to be comming true! rolleyes.gif

Edit:

http://www.islam.tc/prophecies/
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You still found nothing from any other source about the sea dying. You failed. sleepy.gif

On top of that, I told you before where the Muslim's got their information from. They're just getting information fron the other side (they WERE angels remember) which turned everything upside down. So, you have abslutely no point whatsoever. In fact, you've just proven that the end IS NEAR. Good job thumbsup.gif

You do know that Muslims have mosaics of the Angel Gabriel coming to Mary about the birth of Jesus in their mosques don't you? rolleyes.gif
Ashley-Star*Child
QUOTE(saucy @ Dec 29 2004, 02:20 PM)
Everyone else is right about this Ashley.  I've seen a few red moons in my lifetime and it does have to do with the atmosphere distorting the color.  I've also seen the moon look really...really huge before about six years ago.  Tsunamis happen, earthquakes happen, four hurricanes in one month can happen.  I'm just saying that it is some really odd weather this year.  Does it mean the end of the earth is upon us?  I don't know, probably not.  I do believe global warming is fake only because it seems as if the climate in my part of the world has been getting cooler and even so, scientists say that the earth will rise only one degree in the next hundred years.  That's not global warming threatening doom to destory our planet.  Average temperatures at the poles range in the negative one hundred degrees in the winter and probably in the teens in the summer.  I don't have exact numbers, but it's too damn cold for one degree to change anything.
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Well, no everyone's not right. I didn't say this WAS the end for sure, I simply stated the similarity with the foretold signs. But, you never can tell...
Ashley-Star*Child
Oh and shall I add that it was again predicted there would be scoffers, such as many of you, even in the end. You are just fulfilling prophecy without even knowing it.
SilverCougar
Alot of prophecies are like that. Alot like to end with "and people will deny it..." And alot of them don't ever come true...
Ashley-Star*Child
QUOTE(SilverCougar @ Dec 30 2004, 08:16 AM)
Alot of prophecies are like that.  Alot like to end with "and people will deny it..."  And alot of them don't ever come true...
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Wow, and guess what your doing right now? rolleyes.gif
SilverCougar
Playing world of warcraft, having a bit of wine.. watching M*A*S*H, finishing up laundry...
Ashley-Star*Child
QUOTE(SilverCougar @ Dec 30 2004, 08:31 AM)
Playing world of warcraft, having a bit of wine.. watching M*A*S*H, finishing up laundry...
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Rev 11:20
That part of mankind which escaped the plagues did not repent of the idols they had made. They did not give up the worship of demons, or of gods from from gold and silver, from bronze and stone and wood, which cannot see or hear or walk. Neither did they repent of their murders or their sorcery, their fornication or their thefts.
SilverCougar
lessee... I don't worship demons, nor any idols of any of those materials...


I don't murder anyone, nore know any sorcery... don't steal.. and sex has always been a natural thing... with me.. one man, so hardly fornicating.
Wings of Selkhet
*yawn* People have been predicting the end of the world since...well, since it began. Has it ever occurred to anyone that the world just might not end anytime soon?
SilverCougar
QUOTE(Wings of Selkhet @ Dec 30 2004, 08:48 AM)
*yawn* People have been predicting the end of the world since...well, since it began. Has it ever occurred to anyone that the world just might not end anytime soon?
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Has occurred to me.
Ashley-Star*Child
Has it occured to you that the end has been prophecized?
SilverCougar
Yep. Does it mean I'll believe it? *shrugs* Maybe.. maybe not. But I'm not going into histerics over things that happen naturally.

Anyone can make a prophecy, then draw parallels with stuff going on around them.. then say that it happened. It's not that hard.

It's such a common thing, to predict humanity's end. It's in alot of different faiths prophecies. Does that mean it's true? *shrugs*

You get out of them with what you put into them.
Ashley-Star*Child
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I was watching CNN today and they were saying scientists say the tsunami has actually caused the world to wobbe, and has shortened our day by a fraction of a second. Must have been a big one. Anyone else hear this?


O ya I had no idea where to put this, it kinda deals with time but constricted to how earth percieves time around the sun, not time as a noun. Move to a different place if it fits better somewhere else. 


I know this is from another post (and I apologize to the writer if they are offended by my quoting it here) but it's relevant.

Oh, there's more.

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Rev:8:12
When the 4th angel blew his trumpet, a third of the Sun, a third of the Moon, and third of the stars were hit hard enough to be plunged into darkness. The day lost a third of it's light, as did the night.
As my vision continued, I heard an eagle flying in midheaven crying out in a loud voice, "Woe, we and woe again to the inhabitants of the Earth from the trumpet blasts the other three angels are about to blow'.


Before this was the scorching of the Earth, then something hurled into the sea making the sea die, then the 'wormwood' (which is disease) in the waters.
Ashley-Star*Child
What have you to say NOW?
SilverCougar
Now? I say I should pick up around the living room... Or get some sleep.. Maybe stay up and finish watching the news. I mean, what am I supposed to say? I told you, I'm not going to get all into hysterics over what happens naturally.
Wings of Selkhet
It shortened our day by a few milliseconds, Ashley. I'm sorry, but that's hardly enough to qualify as a third. It will affect us in no way whatsoever.

If you honestly think this tsunami in S. Asia is a sign of the end, go right ahead. But I simply stand by the notion that if God did in fact exist, I hardly think he would want you to waste your life worrying about the end of humanity.

Ashley-Star*Child
A few milliseconds can grow over time...

I never said it was the end, like I said above, but everywhere I turn, there's MORE consequences from this tsunami which are the same as what was said.

If this WAS the end, I SHOULD be worrying over humanity....
SilverCougar
QUOTE(Ashley-Star*Child @ Dec 30 2004, 10:34 AM)
A few milliseconds can grow over time...

I never said it was the end, like I said above, but everywhere I turn, there's MORE consequences from this tsunami which are the same as what was said.

If this WAS the end, I SHOULD be worrying over humanity....
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That's another thing that happens with huge natural causes. Once again... nothing prophecized... just a pure natural occurance.

And you're doing a good job showing you are worried about the end. You keep making posts about it.
Ashley-Star*Child
Well, you can believe what you want...

I just said if this WAS the end of course I'd be worried about humanity. Read it over.
SilverCougar
uh-huh... Right then... *snickers*
Ashley-Star*Child
Snickering won't save you.
SilverCougar
Save me from what? You're rapier like accusations?
Ashley-Star*Child
Do I really need to say?
Shadowsleet
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Do I really need to say?


Taxman?

Double glazing salesmen?

Jehova's Witnesses?

There are many things that I'm far more worried might come knocking anytime soon than the abrupt end of the world.
SilverCougar
Gee I don't know. Seems like you're going to say "From hell" But nooo.. that can't be! I mean... you did say once you would never condemn, or overview your beliefs on someone else... ever...

So go ahead.. tell me from what.
Erikl
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*put his head between his hands and start crying*

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Ashely, you are at it again??
Even your co-religionists tells you that you are wrong.
As I said before, your camp need to be more organized thumbsup.gif .

That said, the moon turns red because of too much CO2 (that's what your car and breath gives out, in case you didn't know that wink2.gif ) that clumps up during the day.
This is also the reason why Mars' atmosphere is red - about 90% of it is CO2 (and no, that isn't because of angles breathing there wacko.gif ).
When the moon rise up during the night, it becomes less and less reddish (ofcourse that all depends in the concentration of CO2 in you area).

That's basic 101 chemistry.
Nothing magical about it.

As for that earth quake - every year there is in average one earth quake above 8 in the richter scale.
There were much bigger natural disasters before humans evolved and after that.
75,000 years ago a super volcano erupted in Sumatra, killing 4\3 of the human population back then tongue.gif.
In the last millenium there was a big earth quake in China, killing more than 800,000 people! crying.gif

So please, at least check your facts, if you even have any, before telling everyone doomsday is here, ok? thumbsup.gif

*shrugs* *sigh*
Hotoke
TEH ENDS OF TIME IS UPON US RUN RUN AAAAAGHGHGHG

The world will not by some silly fake books prophecy

nothe world will end by verneshots or asteroids or diseases like the mysterious spanish flu or a women alone planet or volcanoes or a big rip a big expansion or a big crunch or the space clouds or gamma bursts or black holes swallowing aour planet till we all are compacted into nothing or a nucear war or when our oil runs out(depression anyone?) or the climate shift or Artificial intellegince correcting the error called humans or KALKI or ISA. all this is more likely to happen then a fake books prediction especially a planet filled wit women only


Y chromosome( there exists a gene for watching football and telling lame sex jokes, you’ll definitely find it on the Y-chromosome), you’ll also find stuff that is harmful to women. For example: sperm contains chemicals that attack the woman’s body. Really! Semen comes with chemicals that shut down the woman’s immune system, so that it can make it into the womb alive.

That's why X, the female chromosome, hates Y. In response, X is constantly throwing all kinds of wicked chemicals at Y. X is killing Y.

a planet filled with women is mor likely to happen then some silly biblical prediction. How many of them ever came true? what? 0?0 in 2000 years. jesus sure is late. you christians have a lot of patience
Stellar
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You still found nothing from any other source about the sea dying. You failed.


Huh? The sea dying? Sorry, somehow "The sea killing" got in my mind. Anyway, the sea dying? How the hell can that be interpreted to have happened? The sea is not dead, the sea is responsible for deaths.

Anyway, my objective was to show you other prophecies from other holy books which can be seen as "accomplished" in todays world. I've done that.

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On top of that, I told you before where the Muslim's got their information from. They're just getting information fron the other side (they WERE angels remember) which turned everything upside down. So, you have abslutely no point whatsoever. In fact, you've just proven that the end IS NEAR. Good job


Ive not proven anything. You have simply said that they turned everything upside down. You have not proven so. Maybe christianity turned it upside down and Islam set it striaght? My point was to show you that other holy books contain prophecies so vague that they can be interpreted to have happened, and these prophecies do not in any way show that the book is the true word of god simply because of its prophecies.

And if I have proven to you that the end is near... I'm using the Koran to do it, so that means the Korans end-time scenario would be near, wouldnt it, not yours...

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You do know that Muslims have mosaics of the Angel Gabriel coming to Mary about the birth of Jesus in their mosques don't you?


Yep, but their ideas are fundamentally different, proving that the two books are not the same religion. Oh, but they both claim to be written by god. Infact, the Koran is said to have been sent to Earth by god iirc, and not inspired by god. Its prophecies can also be interpreted to be comming true, so does that mean that the Koran is actually right and we can use it to guess what else is going to happen? If so, then I guess the islamic version of the end-times is about to come true... But wait, the christian one, according to its prophecies, is about to come true too! But its a bit different than the islamic one! So does that mean both religions (with contradictory ideas) are right? Wait, theres also more religions I can dig up whos end time scenario is about to happen! Does that mean they're right also? They're radically differen than Islam and Christiantity too!
Stellar
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Oh and shall I add that it was again predicted there would be scoffers, such as many of you, even in the end. You are just fulfilling prophecy without even knowing it.


Well then you're fulfilling Islamic prophecy without even knowing it too, because the Koran says the same.

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Has it occured to you that the end has been prophecized?


By the Koran and many others! Wow! Ashley! OMG! You better convert to Islam, because its prophecies are comming true, which means its end time is very near! It also says that those who do not beleive in the Koran as the book written and send to to Earth by god are going to hell! Quick Ashley! CONVERT!

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Oh, there's more.


Well gee, a fraction of a second is hardly 1 third. But other than that, omg, the prophecy is comming true! That means Ashleys belief is the right one! OMG!

No, wait:

The Koran predicts a contraction of time preceding the end-times! OMG! THE Koran is the right one! Omg!

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What have you to say NOW?


What have YOU to say now? Gee, these prophecies in the koran are comming true because they were prophecised by god! Theres no other explenation! I guess it means Islam is the right religion!

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saucy
Ashley, if you really knew the bible, then you should know the part that says no one will know when the end comes. Stop trying to predict the end because like everyone else, you'll be wrong. All the same crap that's happening now was happening a hundred years ago and so on. There have been these natural weather and earth phenomenon going on for thousands of years and one earthquake and I've seen larger, happens. That's what happens when earth is moving about and plates are crashing. It's natural. Give it a rest.
Stellar
Oh yes, one more thing:

Ashley is telling us to prepare for the christian version of the end times because prophecies in the bible and enoch are comming true!

Well, fine, prepare for the Muslim end times also (which are different) because prophecies in the Koran are comming true too! I can probably find some other religions who's prophecies seem to be comming true, so we should believe in their end times too!
JennRose
QUOTE(saucy @ Dec 30 2004, 02:14 PM)
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Yeah, the end will come "like a thief in the night...no man knows the hour." I'm not even a believer of this faith and I know these scriptures. The predictions are just given as a general "heads up" but are so vague there can be no pinpointing. That seems to be a common trait of prognosticators. rolleyes.gif
Ashley-Star*Child
AGAIN I'll say, I didn't say this was the end, but like you said Saucy, no one knows when, except God.

SilverCougar
Your entire first post is you saying that you believe the end is near, just by all the parallels you've drawn, and tried to explain off.
wunarmdscissor
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Global warming is a myth perpetrated by the communists within the 'environ-mental movement'. Just so you know.

The seasons come and the seasons go and change is always taking place.



AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

seriously u actually believe that global warming doesnt exist and that its a communist conspiracy dont you??

Insert stereotypcal gun toting confederate american picture here lol....
joc
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seriously u actually believe that global warming doesnt exist and that its a communist conspiracy dont you??


Actually yes, I do! Look, where did all the communist hard liners go when the USSR collapsed? Did they just throw up their collective hands and say, 'Oh well, we lost. Let's just die.'?

No, they morphed...and you missed it....

....they morphed into the Environmental Movement. You may not see the actions as close as we do here because A: The Soviets wanted to take over America more than Europe and B: You guys are already so engrossed in Socialism that you probably just glanced over it.

What is happening here you ask? Envir. groups that have infiltrated the government agencies to the point that in some states like Washington...if you own land and someone finds out that an endangered 'mouse' lives on your land, then you can't farm it., etc.

If you haven't noticed it is because you hang out too much on the left side of the aisle. original.gif

Global warming myth is an attempt to get at the pocket book of the United States, nothing more....the Keoto Accord was exactly that...written up to 'punish' the US for being a superpower when it is the countries who signed it that are doing all the polluting.
SilverCougar
Wow, Joc... no words can describe my complete disbelief in what you just said.


The right side of the aisle are to wrapped up in conspericy theories, and noses up the heads of the NRA, not to mention the GOP and Bush's arsh to even care about what happens with the enviroment around them.


Honestly, You don't notice the changes in things liek the weather and animal behaviours because you spend "to much time on the right"

CDHB
Global warming does exist but it's a natural process. human pollution contributes almost nothing to the effect. and the kyoto accords don't just reduce harmful pollution but reduce energy consumption as well.
saucy
I'm not going to say whether or not I do or don't believe in global warming, but let me spout out a few facts here. Cows produce more pollution than humans when they fart. One volcanic eruption spews more pollution and green house gases than all the pollution in mankind's history. This stuff has been around for a long time so I'm not really worried about global warming and the earth turning into a new Venus.
FreyKade
i read that naturally the earth would heal itself....and there is global warming, seasons change etc.....but us putting extra polution in will make it worse
SilverCougar
QUOTE(saucy @ Dec 31 2004, 02:44 PM)
I'm not going to say whether or not I do or don't believe in global warming, but let me spout out a few facts here.  Cows produce more pollution than humans when they fart.  One volcanic eruption spews more pollution and green house gases than all the pollution in mankind's history.  This stuff has been around for a long time so I'm not really worried about global warming and the earth turning into a new Venus.
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Hmmm... and howcome there's so many cows.... gee I wonder...


And yes, it's a natural process, but to claim humans have no real effect is just insane. Go look at LA... that's not a huge smog cloud from a volcano. And yes, volcanoes put up more then humans... but they don't toss up CO2 every day for decades and centuries.... It's a balance thing... but we've upsetted the balance.

Asma levels are higher then they've ever been in the US and Canada...

I have wittenessed ponds, streams and lakes in the Adirondacks that are now dead zone because of all the acid rain that comes from the midwest paper mills among other factories that belch out toxic smoke. Or the Hutson which has been polluted passed Albeny because of the chemicals that was dumped into it....

We've been polluting our own food supply....

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