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Canadian Rottweiler
I'm sure most of you have seen this first pic.The second however,i have never seen before,looks like the same creature,and looks real,but i'm not postive about it.What do you think it is?

Here is the website that i found it on...Cryptos
Diebytheflyguy
Its fake, and there was a thread that had it in there too.
EDUCANALE
QUOTE(Canadian Rottweiler @ Dec 30 2004, 02:07 AM)
I'm sure most of you have seen this first pic.The second however,i have never seen before,looks like the same creature,and looks real,but i'm not postive about it.What do you think it is?

Here is the website that i found it on...Cryptos
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It was a hoax. The picture was taken by French photographer Robert Le Serrec in shallow Austrailian waters in 1964. His pecular story and shady reputation - branded the picture a hoax.
Canadian Rottweiler
QUOTE(EDUCANALE @ Dec 29 2004, 06:15 PM)
QUOTE(Canadian Rottweiler @ Dec 30 2004, 02:07 AM)
I'm sure most of you have seen this first pic.The second however,i have never seen before,looks like the same creature,and looks real,but i'm not postive about it.What do you think it is?

Here is the website that i found it on...Cryptos
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It was a hoax. The picture was taken by French photographer Robert Le Serrec in shallow Austrailian waters in 1964. His pecular story and shady reputation - branded the picture a hoax.
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Oh ok,thanx for the info original.gif
seeking
that is a realy good fake, any info on how it wsa done?
SilverRain Queen
OMG!

It's GOD'S SPERM!
Canadian Rottweiler
Ok,so most people say this is fake.Is there any scientists that believe this is a genuine creature? original.gif
Tia
Does anyone know what it is then? Saying fake alone is enough.
At least with a sassy pic we get comments of man in a suit and drawings, but what is this then?
My only thought would be a school of fish.
Canadian Rottweiler
I really don't see how it could be faked.Especially with 2 pics,and both are of the same figure.I don't think it is a school of fish,the only thing that's possible is maybe an oil spill...
Diebytheflyguy
It was on Ripleys Believe It Or Not, and on this site before, and it was proven to be fake/hoaxed.
Tia
If it's proven to be a fake, what is it then?????
I think we need to back up what we're saying. original.gif
Diebytheflyguy
Yes we do, I'm looking right now but its going to be hard to find it without a name.

And some people say its a school of fish.

All I know is that its not real.
seeking
riplys believe it or not is all true things isnt it?

but the 2nd photo looks pretty doctored, the first is pretty realistic
Raistlin Majere
We just need to wait for a giant frog or giant ova to come by and we'll know what happened.
Diebytheflyguy
QUOTE(seeking @ Dec 29 2004, 10:07 PM)
riplys believe it or not is all true things isnt it?

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It was in "Spot The Not" (Where you have three choices, and two are real, and one is fake)
EDUCANALE
QUOTE(EDUCANALE @ Dec 30 2004, 02:15 AM)
QUOTE(Canadian Rottweiler @ Dec 30 2004, 02:07 AM)
I'm sure most of you have seen this first pic.The second however,i have never seen before,looks like the same creature,and looks real,but i'm not postive about it.What do you think it is?

Here is the website that i found it on...Cryptos
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It was a hoax. The picture was taken by French photographer Robert Le Serrec in shallow Austrailian waters in 1964. His pecular story and shady reputation - branded the picture a hoax.
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Guys....the thing is a HOAX. I gave you the info... The photographer and year it was done. What more question is there??? I found the info in my TIME/LIFE book series MYSTERIES OF THE UNKNOWN.
Diebytheflyguy
QUOTE(EDUCANALE @ Dec 29 2004, 09:15 PM)
It was a hoax. The picture was taken by French photographer Robert Le Serrec in shallow Austrailian waters in 1964. His pecular story and shady reputation - branded the picture a hoax.
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Also:

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7. The Queensland Monster

In December 1964, French photographer Robert Serrec was on vacation in Queensland, Australia, when he took the photograph of a lifetime -- or faked it. He was paddling rowboats with a group of family and friends in shallow waters off Hook Island, near the Queensland coast, when he says a bizarre creature appeared beneath the waves.

Serrec described the monster as an enormous, dark-colored snake with the shape of a giant tadpole. It had a huge reptilian head and a slender, waving body that stretched to about 75-80 feet. Serrec said there seemed to be a wounded area on the creature's back. One of Serrec's photos (shown on this page) presents a very clear and striking image that distinguishes it from the average blurred, murky sea monster picture. Serrec also shot some movie camera footage underwater, but it did not turn out with any distinct detail.

Serrec's photo and his story have been widely discredited as a hoax. The main argument against the photo is that it is simply too clear -- it looks so perfect and so overly "real" that many experts believe, ironically, that it must have been staged. It is also extremely difficult to judge the scale of the supposed creature. The position of the tiny man in the rowboat above the monster creates the visual impression that the monster must be gigantic, but it could actually be a small prop photographed at very close range, with the rowboat off in the far distance. Source.


Oh, and another source saying it was a hoax. Link.

Case Closed.
Panthera leo atrox
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riplys believe it or not is all true things isnt it?


Unfortunately, not so. sad.gif But then again, nobody's perfect. grin2.gif
Ruby
Nice pic though thumbsup.gif
Mr. Spock
Someone made a huge tadpole- like- model; was patient for a sunny day; placed it into the water with some friends help; took the shot.
scipherel
It's funny to me when they do things like this.
They submerged the subject underwater but still you could see traces
of cropping marks even a sea filter effect was applied to it.
When you do hoaxes you should study it too before posting it and make sure
you leave no traces of any kind.
Richdog
QUOTE(Canadian Rottweiler @ Dec 30 2004, 03:50 AM)
I really don't see how it could be faked.Especially with 2 pics,and both are of the same figure.I don't think it is a school of fish,the only thing that's possible is maybe an oil spill...
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Man you believe in everything, I don't think i've ever seen you post a pic without claiming it was real, lol. It's a fake, it's already been proven I read about it ages ago. rofl.gif

EDIT - But yeah that doesn't mean I don't wish they were real too so I get where you're coming from. original.gif
Ashley-Star*Child
QUOTE(seeking @ Dec 30 2004, 03:07 AM)
riplys believe it or not is all true things isnt it?

but the 2nd photo looks pretty doctored, the first is pretty realistic
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Yeah, it IS. We have one of these places on the Gold Coast here. It's strange phenomena.

Maybe it IS a sea creature. You can't just say 'it's fake' without explaining why. It was so easy to fake pictures before the internet age. It may be fake, maybe not.
Shadowsleet
I remember I saw these pics online ages ago...people were going on about how "fantastic" they looked, and how they left them in no doubt....I don't see it myself.

To me, the pics look very unnatural...the creatures features look very much like they've been added in articifially, and I'm not altogether impressed. While I certainly do believe, if we're going to find any "monsters" on earth, the sea is where to look, I don't consider these pics good examples tongue.gif
Raistlin Majere
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The fish down there scare the sh** out of me.
Redefined
It's probly a school of fish they have been known to swim together they probly were swimming together and made that form he took a pic and thought of a story.
Jesus_Freak
It's a school o' fish.
Diebytheflyguy
QUOTE(Redefined @ Dec 30 2004, 09:09 PM)
It's probly a school of fish they have been known to swim together they probly were swimming together and made that form he took a pic and thought of a story.
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QUOTE(Jesus_Freak @ Dec 30 2004, 11:29 PM)
It's a school o' fish.
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Any sources to back these claims?
Canadian Rottweiler
QUOTE(Richdog @ Dec 30 2004, 02:42 AM)
QUOTE(Canadian Rottweiler @ Dec 30 2004, 03:50 AM)
I really don't see how it could be faked.Especially with 2 pics,and both are of the same figure.I don't think it is a school of fish,the only thing that's possible is maybe an oil spill...
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Man you believe in everything, I don't think i've ever seen you post a pic without claiming it was real, lol. It's a fake, it's already been proven I read about it ages ago. rofl.gif

EDIT - But yeah that doesn't mean I don't wish they were real too so I get where you're coming from. original.gif
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Meh,doesn't hurt to believe original.gif
Canadian Rottweiler
QUOTE(Raistlin Majere @ Dec 30 2004, 06:36 AM)
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The fish down there scare the sh** out of me.
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Hah,those creatures are nothing compared to the true horrors of the deepest parts of the ocean...

The following is a small taste of somewhat deep sea creatures...
Deimos
Glad to see you got some use outta that link I gave ya buddy! thumbsup.gif
Canadian Rottweiler
QUOTE(Monster Hunter X @ Dec 30 2004, 08:48 PM)
Glad to see you got some use outta that link I gave ya buddy! thumbsup.gif
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Yeah,that site is awesome for finding cryptos grin2.gif cool.gif
DarkSide
Even though its proven to be a fake, you guys could give him some credit. He doesn't know they were faked, so he's trying to find out more. I see alot of you turning down CR from the very beginning, but yeah anyways time for my take on it.


Its fake tongue.gif Nah, It has been 'proven' to an extent to be a fake. It has not totally been proven to be real, and a giant tadpole in salt water. you and I both know thats rediculous.

~DS~

Sneaky sneaky using my dragon fish picture behind my back wink2.gif
AnimangaBloodThorn
QUOTE(Diebytheflyguy @ Dec 29 2004, 10:20 PM)
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Serrec's photo and his story have been widely discredited as a hoax. The main argument against the photo is that it is simply too clear -- it looks so perfect and so overly "real" that many experts believe, ironically, that it must have been staged. It is also extremely difficult to judge the scale of the supposed creature. The position of the tiny man in the rowboat above the monster creates the visual impression that the monster must be gigantic, but it could actually be a small prop photographed at very close range, with the rowboat off in the far distance. Source.

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They wonder why and complain that none of the pictures or videos of cryptos are clear and when they get one that is they automatically scream fake? blink.gif Is it just me or is something wrong with this picture?

Anyway, don't get me wrong, I don't think it's real, but not because it seems 'too clear.'
If it is anything other than a work of photoshop, it's probably a school of fish or maybe a huge glob of seaweed. I'm not sure though. huh.gif
Redefined
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Any sources to back these claims?       


Yes, National Geographics. Never seen it? Well, let me tell you, salmon swim up stream in schools, tuna travel in schools for defense. well, crews on ships have been known to see fish big or small traveling in large groups that make up a form of a larger fish. All I'm saying is that that's what it could be, I'm not saying that that's what it is or the picture is real so read my post right and stop putting words in my mouth, Diebythefluyguy.
Walken
It was never proven that it was a fake. With all evibdence considored its LIKLEY it was a fake, but such a claim has never been proven.
eveningsky339
Okay, most of us agree it is not a giant tadpole. I don't see how it could be a school of fish, because surely you would see some kind of break in their formation. It could be an oil slick, but where did the oil come from? If it was a big tanker more than just a little slick would be there if there was a leak. There would be a very large trail leading to the port. And it would be on the news. And is there any oil in that place anyway? I think it is probably doctored or hoaxed somehow.
Kabutarian
It's either seaweed, a prop, photoshop, or some other type of plant matter.
Walken
I doubt its a school of fish. The second one looks doctored, but the first looks real. It would take an expert to shop it.
Canadian Rottweiler
QUOTE(Walken @ Dec 31 2004, 07:59 AM)
It was never proven that it was a fake. With all evibdence considored its LIKLEY it was a fake, but such a claim has never been proven.
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Exactly
Redefined
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I don't see how it could be a school of fish, because surely you would see some kind of break in their formation.


Look at the first picture just above the head there is what seems to be a break. Unless something took a chunk out of it!

I dont think it's an oil slick it would be much larger and there would be a trail leading to the area where it came from. I dont really know what it is because there's not enough information like what was the weather like and was it a lake or river or ocean and was there anything around the shore because if it was oil there would be residue on the shore. Was there an oil wreck near by at the time also was it moving or has anyone else ever seen it. There are alot of questions that need to be answered before I can tell you what I really think. Ok

If anybody nose the answers please post them or if you know a link with the info.
Canadian Rottweiler
QUOTE(Redefined @ Jan 1 2005, 05:23 PM)
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I don't see how it could be a school of fish, because surely you would see some kind of break in their formation.


Look at the first picture just above the head there is what seems to be a break. Unless something took a chunk out of it!

I dont think it's an oil slick it would be much larger and there would be a trail leading to the area where it came from. I dont really know what it is because there's not enough information like what was the weather like and was it a lake or river or ocean and was there anything around the shore because if it was oil there would be residue on the shore. Was there an oil wreck near by at the time also was it moving or has anyone else ever seen it. There are alot of questions that need to be answered before I can tell you what I really think. Ok

If anybody nose the answers please post them or if you know a link with the info.
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The larger,uncropped version of that first pic shows that it is a sunny day.That chunk missing is said to be a wound.
AnimangaBloodThorn
A chunk missing? It dern near cuts the creature in half! w00t.gif Lol, or maybe it's just me... I noticed something on the second picture as well. It's hard to tell with the angle, but it looks like it has a chunk missing out of it as well. This makes me think that it was photoshopped and the one who made it tried to make them look as alike as possible so you would think it was the same creature. Just something to think about.

I circled a few places on the first pic in red, this is where it looks to me like there are breaks or chunks missing. The blue circle is something I just saw when I zoomed in. Is it just me, or does it look like an eye? Did I miss something? blink.gif Ah, I probably did, as usual. I circled on the second pic where it looks like it could have chunks missing out of it as well. I'm sure most of you have already noticed these things, but I felt like dabbling in paint this morning. yes.gif Now, lets see if I can figure out how to attach something. tongue.gif
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Panthera leo atrox
Indeed, the thing looks like it should be dead, if it were real. tongue.gif
Walken
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It's hard to tell with the angle, but it looks like it has a chunk missing out of it as well. This makes me think that it was photoshopped and the one who made it tried to make them look as alike as possible so you would think it was the same creature. Just something to think about.


When underwater, most if not all things look distorted. Not only is the water none-too clear, it's also riddled with movement caused by waves. Either of these could account for the breaks in the creature.

I've got to admit it though; if the creature was wounded you'd think they'd be blood. Plus, the creature comes right up close to the camera, or so it appears, and i do beleive he added the part about the wound after someone mentioned the break anyway.

I stand by what i said about my thinking its real though.
AnimangaBloodThorn
I thought about the water being a cause at first, but you can see the rest of it pretty clearly, ya know?
I feel so stupid now. I'd completely forgotten about blood. wacko.gif Then again, if it were an old wound, it wouldn't bleed, would it?
I'm still undecided on this pic. I keep thinking 'photoshopped,' but it looks pretty real. Maybe it's not a real sea monster, but it could be a real something...I just don't know what.
Panthera leo atrox
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I stand by what i said about my thinking its real though.


Do you think it's a giant tadpole or a giant fish? tongue.gif
Walken
I don't think its either. I think its an unknown entity, much like the Loch Ness Monster, and you have no right t make fun of me because I beleive differnt to you.
Panthera leo atrox
Heck, just askin tongue.gif No offence ment thumbsup.gif
Walken
Okay, just took what you said the wrong way. No offence has been taken, in which case.
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