What is the one particle that can be found in anything and any part of our holographic galaxy. Is it possible to be compressed to nothing in a black hole if energy can not be destroyed?

Does anyone ponder such questions? Energy explains so much yet leaves infinite questions, asking the right ones changes my view every day I learn something new. I am working on a large scale project with energy as the director, and no matter what I learn I only learn I know less than before.

Choices

WIMPs, leptons? Higgs field-bosons?

You work on ITER? LHC? Electric Grid project? Generation IV? JDEM?

I don't know much about dark energy, Nuclear energy sucks, I don't think trading electricity is the answer to gaining more...Fusion is interesting and I don't really understand what form of energy is being used for the LHC?

My project is a long shot, no one cares to hear what it is...it is considered the impossible.

I think we make electricity and energy more complicated than it is...It is confusing but any one can understand if they ask the right questions.

Do you think energy can be seperated?

Energy cannot be destroyed, only converted. So what if a black hole is a giant energy converter that first rips mass apart into energy and then instantaneously converts that energy into mass' opposite form? Two opposites exist always anywhere, infinity and zero, these two opposites comprise our entire mathematical language, they are one in the same and like yin and yang will co-exist, always interacting...like a chemical system equilbrium must be maintained...and like a chemical system whose atoms (which act as opposites within their molecule form respectivley) will constantly be reacting within one quanta of time and energy, the black hole will allow mass to constantly be interacting with its counterpart within one quanta of time and energy.

Energy is either very complex or it is simple within its complexity. Within the theory of the universe as a hologram there is only one electron just various interpretations of it, correct? im not very knowlegable of this theory but do know that two complimentary sub atomic particles will always be connected no matter how far apart they are...so I was thinking one day, what if energy, or more specifically electricity is the most obvious display of the interaction within these sub atomic particles? it would make sence because since the complimentary particles are identicle just as the electrons are identicle...or mabye electricity is simply a vibration which travels via electron interaction... Ive started acouple threads on this subject before mabye you should hunt them down
have a great day.

Opposite is like that of a reflection, so if on one side of the black hole all mass is slower being transformed into energy and then back into the opposite matter, would the second side not be doing the same? Just throwing an idea out there I don't know enough about black holes but just curious about the opposite idea?



the theory of the universe being holographic is a theory of my own I am still testing. I don't mean different interpretations of one electron I mean thousands of energies piled on top of each other, each helping the other survive and grow. so on one line to the sun there could really be 10 million lines of energy connected to the earth. I don't think it means we can switch over to another dimension, I truly think all dimensions exist with in the same frame so there is not overlapping. While we see a ghost we think " that is from the other side." but there is no other side each side is right here, some of us can see all the different energies and some can only see few.

Does that seem unlikley? Thank you for any feed back

yah that makes total sence. we only percieve one (or three) of these dimensions since the rest are too complex for us to understand and comprehend and since they are not required for life (aka life as we understand it is not comprised of them) to exist they are not present within the confines of which life creates...I think that these strands of energy you talk about are what light travels on, I would go into detail but Im too positive that i can prove this with current physics formulas. It has to do with a relationship between the mass and vibration of the light particle...but this is so crazy, I cant believe you just said "strands" as I had this same idea of the holographic universe acouple days ago including the strands...there is a threshold level of energy that any object must overcome before it is able to move and I believe that this is equal to the energy of each strand, kind of like the strand is a speedbump and each atom must accumulate enough energy in order to roll over the speedbump.

but dont get ahead of youreslf here, your not the first person (unless you actually were the first, then I am honored to speak with you) to think of the universe as a hologram, I can provide proof.

http://www.crystalinks.com/holographic.html

http://twm.co.nz/holoUni.html

http://www.earthportals.com/hologram.html

http://fusionanomaly.net/holographicuniverse.html

http://www.holography.ru/files/univhoe.htm

"Aspect and his team discovered that under certain circumstances subatomic particles such as electrons are able to instantaneously communicate with each other regardless of the distance separating them."
this was the basic principle of which the theory is based upon.
Alain Aspect was the first to discover this and rightfully so he should be partly credited with the evolution of this theory, as should the person who first pointed it out.
read some more involving enery within states of matter especially extremes like BEC (bohr-einstein condensate)

not exactly, why is the universe constantly expanding? because the spaces between galaxies keep getting larger. what would be inbetween galaxies? if matter repels dark-mater (and vice versa) then it would make sence that dark matter exists (most densely) in the location furthest from matter, inbetween galaxies.

The number zero is composed of two facts, nothing and everything. divide the numberline by zero and all numbers equal eachother, multiply it by zero and all numbers cease to exist.

What if all that existed in the beginning of the universe was dark matter? and matter was created from it? then the whole process of the universe is to convert that matter back into its original form(AKA THE UNIVERSE IS AN ENERGY CONVERTER), and once that happens there will be no matter and no relationship between matter and dark matter, all that will exist is one polar opposite void of its counterpart. The universe will have reached its final point of expansion and with no elasticity left it will rip, one particle of darkmatter will explode into bazillions of tiny matter particles thus saving the universe from complete collapse.

I am interested in the experiment you are performing. Can you tell me more?

ME TOO!

I do not want to give you the wrong impression, I am experimenting with something but I really do not have any education. I only made it to grade nine, the rest on my time was spent working to pay rent or drinking at the bar.

I realised 3 years ago I had a choice and from there I changed my mind. Some how the only thing interesting enough to keep me learning was energy. I found it so interesting that energy was the only thing every one had in common and at the same time energy in the form of electricity was the biggest problems we believe is killing our own existence.

Make a long boring story short...My project is to provide a product to consumers that can supply the household electricity with out distance cost....but we need to consider all the effects of this product to our global economical structure to ensure not one person would be effected in a negative way of the distribution of the product. ( to be honest we came across the idea after we smoked one and we were playing with something we would never expect to take us to this piont.)

Most of the information I have obtained has been from the internet and the opinions of team members that have the educational backing to support or disagree with information. I am basically just a helper...and I am always looking for more help.

Stix you got some pretty amazing information, There is something I am stuck on that you may be able to help me with?
When I picture the sun I see a waves of energy going inwards and light and heat energy flowing away from...I this correct? When I think of the universe expanding I picture how the sun gets bigger and smaller, do they shrink and grow in the same way as each other?...One more...I am sure we have a explanation of what we would see if the sun was to grow and shrink but do you know what the energy we can't see is doing while this is hapening?...is that how you spell that?? hapening?? ha ha see should of went to school.

thank you

Hi Choices ,

Energy , or one atom , atoms are made of energy and are everywhere.
Are you asking if a human could survive on the surface of a blackhole, ( if there is a surface ? ) If you did somehow survive ...would you not be frozen in time ?
( since the intense gravity of a blackhole would slow down time ).

I ponder such questions all the time.... I think we and everything else is made of energy . We think we live in a universe full of hard objects ....but we actually live in a reality of energy .....think if you could see at the atomic level ...then you look out into your house or yard outside ,,,what would you see ? Since everything is really made from atoms...and atoms are a bit of energy ....you would see a reality where everything shines with energy . We live in a fluid energetic reality . We are fluid energetic creatures . All it takes is for a bit of energy to have an awareness , and it is considered alive . Life does not depend on organics....there are inorganic lifeforms out there , and even living amoung us organic based lifeforms .
If you could see at the atomic level you see them ....and much more than our eyes are used to seeing .
If you can for a minute think that we humans are also made of energy ...this opens up many new possibilites . Energy can alter it's shape or form , energy can travel very fast , energy can defy gravity . Now apply this to humans.....this expains many of the miracles and things considered impossible throughout history .

[QUOTE ( sea myth creations Posted Yesterday, 10:07 PM ) ]If you can for a minute think that we humans are also made of energy ...this opens up many new possibilites . Energy can alter it's shape or form , energy can travel very fast , energy can defy gravity . Now apply this to humans.....this expains many of the miracles and things considered impossible throughout history .[/QUOTE]

This is the interesting part eh?

Clues - 1. energy is in constant comunication with other energy
2. Energy is found in everything
3. Energy is infinite
4. Energy seeks balance
5. Energy created the universe

Sometimes I think of energy as if it were god, but if you thought about it that would mean everysingle one of us is god, because all our energy together with all the energy of the universe would be the whole picture of energy or "God". that might be far fetched though..ha ha.. what do you think?

I tried to think of anything with similarities to what a big picture of energy looks like, The only thing I could come up with that - our brain is a hollogram, and - a brain can store 10 million bits of information on one spec of thread, and - a hollogram can store 10 million bits of info on one spec of thread and last but not least energy can be found in many different forms and ranges with in one spec of thread. What do you think that means, I am still struggling with this?

I used to ask the question " what created energy?" I just assumed something had to create energy? I just doesn't add up. This question really got me no where though. So I asked " How does something exsist if it was not created? " The only thing I can come up with is...it choses to exist? I don't know what do you think sea myth creations?

[QUOTE (sea myth creations Posted Yesterday, 10:07 PM) ] Are you asking if a human could survive on the surface of a blackhole, ( if there is a surface ? ) If you did somehow survive ...would you not be frozen in time ?
( since the intense gravity of a blackhole would slow down time ).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]I am interested in the experiment you are performing. Can you tell me more?[/QUOTE]

Well, I do have a website and if you would like I could give you the link, but keep in mind I am in development stage and things are changing from day to day. It is called project energy x, our goal is to create a product which can provide electricity to homes onsite, it can not have a negative effect on the enviroment, must use only renewable resources, product distribution can not have a negative effect on related industry workers. The product needs to be a positive step for everyone conected to electricity in any way, consumers, investors and those employed through energy corps. and all the way down the chain to surveyors gas station attendants ect.

I think you guys probably see what I am getting at? Are you laughing right now becuase it is to far out there? most people I talk to about it laugh ..ha..ha but I got big shoulders its ok, tell me honestly what you think.

Thank you

Guys, you are going about the idea of Black holes in the wrong way. A black hole is in fact just a dense star, like a white dwarf, with gravity so intense that light cannot escape its surface. The matter does not in fact become nothing, but is just added to the bulk of a "Black Hole" (There is some support amongst the scientific community that Black Holes grow) so a Black Hole does indeed have a surface, is indeed something you can touch and is indeed something that you can walk on (assuming that since it produces no light, it does not burn hydrogen and therefore has a solid surface similar to that of a planet).

You are talking about "Communication" between energy. I am not formally educated at all in any kind of advanced physics, but I must ask what do you mean by "communicate"? Like, electrical signals or some form of contact between particles?

Some of this seems a little controversary, doesn't it? Not everyone agrees that energy is infinite. Since the universe itself is not infinite and has a definite "boundry" or "border", would it be possible that an infinite ammount of energy exists within a limited area? And if you are going to say that energy can exist outside of the universe, how would you know? No one has ever "seen" outside the universe, or has the faintest clue what it could possibly be. However, we have seen the known center of the universe and towards the edges of the universe (A few scientific american magazines show a map of where things in the universe are theorized to exist).

I don't think anyone actually knows how much information can be stored in how much mass. Until we hook a brain up to a computer and "upload" its "hard drive" into the computer, we won't really know. Interestingly enough, John Darnton's "Mind Catcher" does involve uploading human conciousness into perceivable cyberspace, although it never says anything about the capacity of the human brain.

Sorry if what I say seems small minded or obnoxious, but I am only a grade nine student in Canada that knows more then his colleagues. Of course, I assume many of you here have University or are getting University degrees, which is still a long way off for me. Please be critical of my posts, cause it would help me understand much easier if it turns out I'm wrong.

Sorry for my double posts there...I didn't think it went through last night so I did a new one this morning to find out it did work?? I'm a dumbass..

Prodigy...I like your post, the only reason I would disagree is that if there were to be boundries around the universe what would the boundries be made of? I only asked because I am under the impression light energy or radiation can go through most anything..correct me if I am wrong though, Light energy does not stop it self from its motion and unless there is something strong enough to reflect light it would continue on in one direction forever? What do you think?

Thank you

I am doing a postgrad in physics so I do know what I am talking about. Darkmatter, this are virtual matter that scientists predicted to account for the mass of the universe but are not seen or illuminated by light, they do not exert an anti gravity effect, in fact they are mundane odinary matter, but not seen. Secondly your theory is similar to the "Super String" theorem, with strings of light vibrating at both end. Basically it boils down to a geometrical representation of the universe, forces and particles.

The blackhole is not an energy converter, it is a singularity bounded by the event horizon. It is famous for not giving out Anything, within its boundary cause and effect can reverse, cause can be preceded by effects, time has no meaning and can reverse depending on which direction you try to move within the boundary condition. The gravitational tidal forces are massive, you will be stretched to an infinity and within a singularity infinity exist. You have entered the twilight zone . You willl most assurely die.

Energy is not some innate substance, it is the interaction of stuff, imagine heating a pot, the vibration of molecules is energy, some energy is realeased as radiation in the form of infra red, some energy is conducted away. if an asteroid hits earth, its potential energy is converted to kinetic, heat energy, vibrational, radiation, compaction, notice a trend? Its that energy is interaction and change.

While I think that it is admirable that you are doing something so ambitious, be careful. if this process requires monetary donations from you my advice is don't! The phenomenon that you describe is a quantum anomaly .When a pair of electrons are created in an event, they posses an innate and opposite spin, when you change the spin of one you also change the other. This process has great contributions to communications and computer science but I can't really see hw you can milk energy from it.

yep it all boils down to a choice. be it for good or evil, light or dark, it is something we must all do.

[QUOTE Shai_Hulud Posted Today, 07:40 AM ]Energy is not some innate substance, it is the interaction of stuff, imagine heating a pot, the vibration of molecules is energy, some energy is realeased as radiation in the form of infra red, some energy is conducted away. if an asteroid hits earth, its potential energy is converted to kinetic, heat energy, vibrational, radiation, compaction, notice a trend? Its that energy is interaction and change. [/QUOTE]

Thank you for all your input Shai, I really value your opinion.

What I don't understand is what you mean by innate? Would this mean it is 'not' a creator of it's own existence...is that what you are trying to tell me? I don't mean to be naive but really I am.. ha ha..truth sucks

In your description I would be looking at the energy it takes for the astroid to hit a planet, what kind of positive or negative force created the butterfly effect leading to the event...what about the gravitational energy and magnetic energy or the field energy of each star or planet involved in the event. What do you think of that??

[QUOTE Shai_Hulud Posted Today, 07:40 AM ]The blackhole is not an energy converter[/QUOTE]

Thank you for this tip cause that is exactly what I was thinking...So now I have new questions about what a black hole really is...So if I looked at a black hole through a camera that displayed say heat or gravity or light would they all be in the same pattern as each other...like a downward spiral I guess?? I sure got a lot to learn eh? ha ha with your knowledge you probably crack up at some of the questions I ask..ha ha

Just one more question, Is electricity basically made by rotating magnets and a copper coil?? If so do you think it is weird that we still produce electricity in the most harmful way?

It may be different in you area but our neighbors USA apparently cause the most issues from electricity plants, yet every one still builds more power plants ect... sorry to drag on.

Thanks again Sha - I would love to talk with you more if you would be willing to share your expertise.

When I say that energy is not an innate substance, I meant that there is no particle called "energon" that is identified with energy. I know that many people are mistaken about its nature and I wish to make it clear. When I was talking about the asteroid I was trying to put across that energy is changed from different forms when it interacts with matter. I would never mock any serious effort to learn, i am still learning as well and I know how little I actually knows.

Actually a blackhole doesn't totally emits light. matter spirals inward into the singularity, before it breaches the event horizon, normal matter is torn apart by the extreme gravitational forces, releasing gamma rays. That is why we can detect blackholes, by the gamma ray emmision.

That is how we produce electricity. Its not really dangerous at all. Basically its about the interaction between a moving conductor in a magnetic field, hmmm how to explain this. Basically electrons move in response to the change in magnetic field, it MUST change otherwise the electrons won't move. Electricity in the most basic form is movement of electrons or charges from one point to another. This is a rather poor explaination but search the net for maxwll and gausses law, basically there is an interaction between , electric field, magnetic field and velocity.

I used to ask the question " what created energy?" I just assumed something had to create energy? I just doesn't add up. This question really got me no where though. So I asked " How does something exsist if it was not created? " The only thing I can come up with is...it choses to exist? I don't know what do you think sea myth creations?

You want to know the answers to questions that are impossible to answer . There are some things which noone will ever figure out .....but we can ponder all we want . What existed before our current universe ? before the big bang ?

The best idea I ever heard concerned with our universe , states that the universe is shaped like a ball . The surface of the ball and all that is within is our universe .
This universe is spreading , the ball growing . Eventually the growth will stall and the ball ( universe) will start to shrink again back to one point ...for another Big Bang ? What lies beyond the boundary to our universe ? Is there nothingness ?
Does it seem empty but actually is filled to the brim with something ?
I believe the universe is alive , as in being aware of itself . There is force that is everywhere ....a force that creates , destroys or keeps things the same .
This force is aware of it doings and non-doings .
The Earth is a model of what's out there in our universe .All life in the universe is predatorial . The universe is female.....the male counterpart is rare , too scarce.
There is knowledge based on energetic facts , that have nothing to do with human language. There is silent knowledge ...knowledge that cannot be described with any human words .
There are realities that humans can visit or expierance but could never hope to explain or put into words .











[QUOTE (sea myth creations Posted Yesterday, 10:07 PM) ] Are you asking if a human could survive on the surface of a blackhole, ( if there is a surface ? ) If you did somehow survive ...would you not be frozen in time ?
( since the intense gravity of a blackhole would slow down time ).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]I am interested in the experiment you are performing. Can you tell me more?[/QUOTE]

Well, I do have a website and if you would like I could give you the link, but keep in mind I am in development stage and things are changing from day to day. It is called project energy x, our goal is to create a product which can provide electricity to homes onsite, it can not have a negative effect on the enviroment, must use only renewable resources, product distribution can not have a negative effect on related industry workers. The product needs to be a positive step for everyone conected to electricity in any way, consumers, investors and those employed through energy corps. and all the way down the chain to surveyors gas station attendants ect.

I think you guys probably see what I am getting at? Are you laughing right now becuase it is to far out there? most people I talk to about it laugh ..ha..ha but I got big shoulders its ok, tell me honestly what you think.

Thank you
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