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~Onyx~
QUOTE(Cadetak47 @ Oct 2 2006, 11:56 PM) [snapback]1374947[/snapback]

In defense of the existence of lycans I will again say that the only way a human can transform like that would be through magical/mystical ways...but that brings in the existence of curses/spells and thats another subject for another day.


THAT I have studied...Therianthrophy....If that is something that you might be "into", then check-out "werelist.com" or "beastforum.com"...not my cup-o-tea, but maybe it will help someone....but transformations......not physically plausable at all.
coldethyl
QUOTE(Graphixman @ Oct 3 2006, 06:56 AM) [snapback]1375217[/snapback]

Damn ericraven2003, how about we keep the personal attacks out of the posts?


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That wasn't a personal attack. Eric's statement was well within the rules. thumbsup.gif
thecreeper
QUOTE(Cadetak47 @ Oct 2 2006, 11:56 PM) [snapback]1374947[/snapback]

In defense of the existence of lycans I will again say that the only way a human can transform like that would be through magical/mystical ways...but that brings in the existence of curses/spells and thats another subject for another day.

hmmmm magic, never conidsered it,I will to reaserach on that, TO THE INTERNET! oh wait I am areadly on the internet blush.gif , well ask.com or google could be of some help on this I suppose
~Onyx~
QUOTE(thecreeper @ Oct 3 2006, 10:39 PM) [snapback]1376256[/snapback]

hmmmm magic, never conidsered it,I will to reaserach on that, TO THE INTERNET! oh wait I am areadly on the internet blush.gif , well ask.com or google could be of some help on this I suppose


Therianthrophy.....may I suggest you start there?
thecreeper
I did, most of what I found I already new
~Onyx~
QUOTE(thecreeper @ Oct 4 2006, 12:21 PM) [snapback]1376927[/snapback]

I did, most of what I found I already new


So, your now looking for that which nobody readily knows about...which would be personal experience...which is purely subjective to what you wish to belive...either that....or there is nothing more than what you have found to be the truth.
thecreeper
QUOTE(Onyxdk @ Oct 4 2006, 12:28 PM) [snapback]1376942[/snapback]

So, your now looking for that which nobody readily knows about...which would be personal experience...which is purely subjective to what you wish to belive...either that....or there is nothing more than what you have found to be the truth.

I have no Idea what the heck you mean buy that
coldethyl
QUOTE(thecreeper @ Oct 4 2006, 09:33 PM) [snapback]1377875[/snapback]

I have no Idea what the heck you mean buy that


I am not surprised by this statement.
~Onyx~
QUOTE(thecreeper @ Oct 4 2006, 10:33 PM) [snapback]1377875[/snapback]

I have no Idea what the heck you mean buy that


*Exhales loudly and puts his head in his hands*........Annnnnnnnnnnnnnd, I'm spent.
coldethyl
QUOTE(Onyxdk @ Oct 5 2006, 09:06 AM) [snapback]1378395[/snapback]

*Exhales loudly and puts his head in his hands*........Annnnnnnnnnnnnnd, I'm spent.


*pats Onyxdk on the head*

It'll be okay.
the Shadamaun
Tis hard to debate with the argument of "Nuh-uh!"
bails
I'm not a skeptic, I am really interested in all sorts of paranormal activities. I do beleive there has to be hard evidence for anything to be plausible. It's extremely difficult to believe there are such things as werewolves or vampires. These "lycan clans" (if they are out there) are most likely nothing more then just a bunch of people trying to pretend they are werewolves. That's my opinion anyway....
~Onyx~
QUOTE(the Shadamaun @ Oct 5 2006, 01:24 PM) [snapback]1378694[/snapback]

Tis hard to debate with the argument of "Nuh-uh!"


Beacuse-why?
_Nyx_
Because I said so, that's why!
~Onyx~
QUOTE(_Nyx_ @ Oct 5 2006, 04:58 PM) [snapback]1378984[/snapback]

Because I said so, that's why!


Nuh-uh.. tongue.gif
Marth
No lycans are not real.

No vampires are not real.

No you are NOT a vampire.

No you are NOT a lycan.


Now you and all your little friends who think they are can get on with their lives.

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CaptRand
QUOTE(Sweetsalem82103 @ Sep 27 2006, 08:18 PM) [snapback]1367826[/snapback]

Wow, that was very nicely put.

I thought that that the "were-animal" stories came from ancient shamans of different cultures that "shapeshifted" into animals. . .then during the rise of Christianity, when such things were considered evil and demonic, the stories went from "merging with an animal to gain it's skills" to "people making deals with the devil and turning into animals to reap havoc upon the Christian masses"...

I could just be out of "practice" though. . I haven't been on here for a while. . .so who knows what information I've missed. grin2.gif



Are Lycans the same as people who suffer from the mental disorder Lycanthrophy? I know I misspelled that. Also, I always thought the werewolf myth began in ancient Rome, with a story about a man who watched his friend turn into a large wolf while going to visit his fiance...but I can't remember the writer's name.
But as for werewolves being real, sadly...as with vampires, except for the movies...no.
But if I were GOD, they would and all werewolves would look like Sybil Danning, in Howling 2 and all vampires like Denice Duff in the Bloodstone series. yes.gif Take Care...
Cadetak
Ever played the Telephone game in grade school? Where your teacher tells the first person a sentence and that person repeats to another and then another until the last person hears it and repeats it to the teacher? A simple sentence like "I went to the store" could easily turn into "We went to the store" for example.

Imagine the Telephone game that lasted thousands of years and was spread across millions of people. Even if those people wheren't trying to corrupt the story or add things in the original story would be lost.

For all we know the original story of werewolves could be a rabid dog.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(Marth @ Oct 6 2006, 01:16 PM) [snapback]1380250[/snapback]

No lycans are not real.

No vampires are not real.

No you are NOT a vampire.

No you are NOT a lycan.


Now you and all your little friends who think they are can get on with their lives.

rolleyes.gif

w00t.gif

Yes. Yes. People waste time on some silly things.
~Onyx~
QUOTE(Cadetak47 @ Oct 6 2006, 10:59 PM) [snapback]1380871[/snapback]

Ever played the Telephone game in grade school? Where your teacher tells the first person a sentence and that person repeats to another and then another until the last person hears it and repeats it to the teacher? A simple sentence like "I went to the store" could easily turn into "We went to the store" for example.

Imagine the Telephone game that lasted thousands of years and was spread across millions of people. Even if those people wheren't trying to corrupt the story or add things in the original story would be lost.

For all we know the original story of werewolves could be a rabid dog.


That's been my theory for a great MANY things that today are regarded as "legends".
shadowweaver
its not a disorder or madness.And lycanthropy doesnt transform you into some kind of hairy half man half wolf.its is man with the souls of a wolf.along time ago a beast such as a werewolf existed.but our power was to great and trapped within the moon only granted back to us on the full moon.we gain a demigod like powers on the full moon or on a hunger driven spree.
~Onyx~
QUOTE(shadowweaver @ Oct 17 2006, 11:25 AM) [snapback]1393640[/snapback]

its not a disorder or madness.And lycanthropy doesnt transform you into some kind of hairy half man half wolf.its is man with the souls of a wolf.along time ago a beast such as a werewolf existed.but our power was to great and trapped within the moon only granted back to us on the full moon.we gain a demigod like powers on the full moon or on a hunger driven spree.


So, it's a purely spiritual experience, then? and welcome.
Feral_Longhair
QUOTE(Sanidia Vortez @ Dec 31 2004, 08:53 AM) [snapback]430792[/snapback]
this question has always been running through my mind and to me they are real, no matter what other people say who started the lycan stories off ? i drunken man ? a fool maybe ? or is it just someone who saw one.. but they left out all the details shame coz i would of loved to have read their story.

well my answer is yes clans are real, lycans are real but just think that is only my opinion you still have your opinion so tell me it.. i have to say i would appreciate your replies greatly.

now on the subject of clans a group of people howling at the moon, well as they say lycans were great desendants of humans but i dunno about that.

i live in the north east of england i am part of a clan myself, but we don't go runnign around naked howling trying to scary people no we study their movements and so on and so forth..

well hope you reply



Where to begin ??...I consider myself a reasonable ,educated guy of the sciences I hold a degree in Biology and I have learned to question alot of things in my 32 yrs of life - I"ve also witnessed my share of strange events that normally I would have never beleived had I not seen it with my own set of eyes .
Even though I do agree that most of the time there is usually a practical or logical answer for most things events , etc ...But I have also learned that Nature tends to have her own way about doing things - Many , in some cases , we don't know why or how ..It just is . And even though like myself and I"m sure as well as many others would like to understand as well - We just aren't there yet...I beleive personally that it IS possible through natrual variation or through natrual selection ...I also know that humans as a race are here before too long due to go by the way side ( chemical warfare , the big nuke , advances in Genetics and genome studies ...natrual disease pathology , etc . ) So , in theory what would be the next step in line to preserve our species ??
Think . We would have to come to a point that we would have to advance physically in order to deal with coming changes for survival ...And if we are set to exit or partially exit ( member the Black Plague everyone ?? ) ; what would be left ? The animal gene pool . I beleive that most of human instinct does come from an earlier form of animal behavior - Animals " sense " and pay much better attention to their environments ..And besides we ARE animals to begin with ..just slightly higher evolved and smarter than others ..And we have been around for about 2,000 yrs ..so chronologically we are due for a major adaptation to our bodies /minds , abilities to adapt . Its simple - Adapt or die . Now having said that - I do believe its possible but kind of natrual progression would take a long time , decades /centuries if not longer ...Could there be " early " weaker lycans around, certainly . Is it like the movies ??? I honestly don't know ..Not everything that happens always makes sense and not everything is meant to be explained away . The true answers will arrive in their own time . But I do encourage everyone to keep an open mind and decide for themselves wink2.gif
when.i.am.queen.
QUOTE
Is it like the movies ???


Hopefully a large budget one, because if its not these Lycans will have a strange case of...puppetness.
Or man dressed in suit-ness.

~Onyx~
I've met a number of people who claim to be Lycans....and some that are Therians.....but I'm am no more inclined to take a Therian at their word than a supposed Lycan...just beacuse someone feels a kindredship or connection to an animal species of some kind does not make them a Lycan. Therianthrophy(being the spiritual "linking" with an animal) requires little or no real proof to justify....Lycanthrophy however....to prove a case of Lycanthrophy, there must exist physical proof.......none of which have I witnessed by those who have claimed to be such.
Pitviper
QUOTE(cor_raven @ Jan 2 2005, 06:02 PM) [snapback]433769[/snapback]
The origins of werewolves and lycan clans come from a rare genetic disease that causes hair to grow on parts of the human body it doesn't normaly grow on, esecially all over the face. this trait, although rare is dommininant and so usually when one of the parents has it all of the children have it and so we get large groupsof execeptuly hairy people.

I am Cor_raven , I have spoken.

I mean typed,
i'm confused AAAAAAAAH brain Anurism blink.gif

Inst there some kids south america that have this ?
~Onyx~
QUOTE(Pitviper @ Jan 10 2007, 07:29 PM) [snapback]1496011[/snapback]
Inst there some kids south america that have this ?


Not that I'm aware of, but if there are, I would LOVE to get some information on them.....I'll Google it, and see what I can find.
snuffypuffer
Aren't these just people who do the live action role-play? I mean, I know people that do that Vampire game like that.
~Onyx~
QUOTE(snuffypuffer @ Jan 11 2007, 12:44 PM) [snapback]1496887[/snapback]
Aren't these just people who do the live action role-play? I mean, I know people that do that Vampire game like that.


That's my assumption as well, Snuffy.
El_diablos
ok the term "Lycan" was created by the writters of a film called underworld. so its completly incorrect and stupid to call were-wolves lycans.
capoeiranger
QUOTE(Onyxdk @ Jan 12 2007, 12:01 AM) [snapback]1496830[/snapback]
Not that I'm aware of, but if there are, I would LOVE to get some information on them.....I'll Google it, and see what I can find.


I'll save you some times. Try search for "Mexican Wolf Brother". They've been over exposed, I've seen them many times already, They worked on a circus, and are trapeze geniuses...ring a bell?
Urisk
QUOTE(Sanidia Vortez @ Dec 31 2004, 04:53 PM) [snapback]430792[/snapback]
this question has always been running through my mind and to me they are real, no matter what other people say who started the lycan stories off ? i drunken man ? a fool maybe ? or is it just someone who saw one.. but they left out all the details shame coz i would of loved to have read their story.

well my answer is yes clans are real, lycans are real but just think that is only my opinion you still have your opinion so tell me it.. i have to say i would appreciate your replies greatly.

now on the subject of clans a group of people howling at the moon, well as they say lycans were great desendants of humans but i dunno about that.

i live in the north east of england i am part of a clan myself, but we don't go runnign around naked howling trying to scary people no we study their movements and so on and so forth..

well hope you reply


Generally there is another term for Lycans; Teenagers. I think some people have been playing Werewolf: The Apocalypse or Rage, the CCG spinoff. It's all just wishful thinking, I'm afraid.

QUOTE(El_diablos @ Jan 11 2007, 10:53 PM) [snapback]1497372[/snapback]
ok the term "Lycan" was created by the writters of a film called underworld. so its completly incorrect and stupid to call were-wolves lycans.



Well Lycan is an abbreviation of Lycanthrope which is another term for werewolf. That's more where it came from.
~Onyx~
QUOTE(capoeiranger @ Jan 11 2007, 08:32 PM) [snapback]1497530[/snapback]
I'll save you some times. Try search for "Mexican Wolf Brother". They've been over exposed, I've seen them many times already, They worked on a circus, and are trapeze geniuses...ring a bell?


I think so, aren't they the family that has alot of hair growing on they're faces? and people take one look at the "Lon Chaney jr. Wolfman" type of hair growth, and assume it to be something that it isn't.......it's just abnormal and excessive hair-growth......IF it's the same "family" I'm thinking of, that is.
RachelM
The disease is hypertrichosis and you can read about it here.

It not only causes excess hair, but also teeth defects.
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~Onyx~
QUOTE(RachelM @ Jan 12 2007, 11:14 AM) [snapback]1498353[/snapback]
The disease is hypertrichosis and you can read about it here.

It not only causes excess hair, but also teeth defects.
Click to view attachment


Thanks Rachel, that's my point exactly, it's a case of "bark and no bite", so to speak.....it has nothing to do with Lycanthrophy or supposed Lycans.
1Canadian1
Hi iam new to this site and I don't know if this has been said yet, but for a good account on both lycans(lycanthrophy) and vampire(vamperism) watch Fang vs Fiction it should answer most of your questions. Its a documentary about both werewolves(lycans) and vampires. It was on AMC and can be found on the Underworld 2-Disc DVD. Just thought i would put this out there.

Hope this helps.
isis-999
There seem's to be a great deal of young people on here for some reason that think they are WW's..... blink.gif
Symbol
There are no lycan clans, just groups of emo teenagers who think they're werewolves so they get together in these little groups and call them "packs" and howl and crap and probably some furry bullsh*t happens there too.

Well, atleast I assume. Since people who think they're vampires do similar things.
isis-999
Finally someone who can tell the difference between real life and fiction
Col. Kurtz
QUOTE(isis-999 @ Jan 12 2007, 10:43 PM) [snapback]1499267[/snapback]
Finally someone who can tell the difference between real life and fiction


This comming form a person claiming to be a "" born witch''??
The Omega Entity
I think the majority of these type clans are really just groups of people seeking a form of social exceptance. After all, it does have that dark allure to it which many young or lost souls gravitate to. ***NO offense to those groups who assemble under a genuine, rational interest*** Wolves are extraordinarly beautiful creatures and I suppose many would like to embrace them in spirit.
A consideration: If a serious Lycan clan did exist, the very last thing they would ever do is make their presence known.
spikeman25
QUOTE(The Omega Entity @ Feb 1 2007, 04:02 AM) [snapback]1524875[/snapback]
I think the majority of these type clans are really just groups of people seeking a form of social exceptance. After all, it does have that dark allure to it which many young or lost souls gravitate to. ***NO offense to those groups who assemble under a genuine, rational interest*** Wolves are extraordinarly beautiful creatures and I suppose many would like to embrace them in spirit.
A consideration: If a serious Lycan clan did exist, the very last thing they would ever do is make their presence known.
That's why it makes it easier for werewolves to exist, Because nobody especially on here believes in them,And it's alot easier for them to blend in with today's society.
isis-999
QUOTE(Col. Kurtz @ Jan 13 2007, 06:14 AM) [snapback]1499656[/snapback]
This comming form a person claiming to be a "" born witch''??



I take it from that remark you have no idea what a "Born Witch really is uh....... rolleyes.gif
The Omega Entity
QUOTE(spikeman25 @ Feb 2 2007, 10:28 PM) [snapback]1527647[/snapback]
That's why it makes it easier for werewolves to exist, Because nobody especially on here believes in them,And it's alot easier for them to blend in with today's society.

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~Onyx~
QUOTE(isis-999 @ Jan 12 2007, 10:18 PM) [snapback]1499224[/snapback]
There seem's to be a great deal of young people on here for some reason that think they are WW's..... blink.gif


The key word there is young, Isis.......and your correct. It's much the same thing with regards to Vampires.
Samael
QUOTE(Onyxdk @ Jan 11 2007, 05:01 PM) [snapback]1496830[/snapback]
Not that I'm aware of, but if there are, I would LOVE to get some information on them.....I'll Google it, and see what I can find.


There's a family who live hidden in Mexico (or somewhere similar) because they all suffer from hypertrichosis. They get most of their stuff delivered so they don't have to leave the house and travel to civilisation. It's an incredibly rare occurence for a whole family line to have it, but it happens.

Two of the sons of said family recently joined a circus, btw.
socurious
well they may be real or not all i know is that once in a while u feel a presence and who knows what it is but when u spin around and nothings there.....well u always feel watched by something....
~Onyx~
QUOTE(Mister E. @ Feb 3 2007, 01:28 PM) [snapback]1528220[/snapback]
There's a family who live hidden in Mexico (or somewhere similar) because they all suffer from hypertrichosis. They get most of their stuff delivered so they don't have to leave the house and travel to civilisation. It's an incredibly rare occurence for a whole family line to have it, but it happens.

Two of the sons of said family recently joined a circus, btw.


A family that happens to have excessive hair-growth?...that makes them FAR from "lycans"....and if that's all it takes to propagate a lycan-myth, then there's no wonder people are still looking for them, lol.
tanuki_mastr
QUOTE(Sanidia Vortez @ Dec 31 2004, 09:53 AM) [snapback]430792[/snapback]
this question has always been running through my mind and to me they are real, no matter what other people say who started the lycan stories off ? i drunken man ? a fool maybe ? or is it just someone who saw one.. but they left out all the details shame coz i would of loved to have read their story.

well my answer is yes clans are real, lycans are real but just think that is only my opinion you still have your opinion so tell me it.. i have to say i would appreciate your replies greatly.

now on the subject of clans a group of people howling at the moon, well as they say lycans were great desendants of humans but i dunno about that.

i live in the north east of england i am part of a clan myself, but we don't go runnign around naked howling trying to scary people no we study their movements and so on and so forth..

well hope you reply


Wow lycan clans...sounds interesting...very interesting...so your part of one? so...whats it like? what type of things do you do together?
GypsyWolf
QUOTE (Sanidia Vortez @ Dec 31 2004, 04:53 PM) *
this question has always been running through my mind and to me they are real, no matter what other people say who started the lycan stories off ? i drunken man ? a fool maybe ? or is it just someone who saw one.. but they left out all the details shame coz i would of loved to have read their story.

well my answer is yes clans are real, lycans are real but just think that is only my opinion you still have your opinion so tell me it.. i have to say i would appreciate your replies greatly.

now on the subject of clans a group of people howling at the moon, well as they say lycans were great desendants of humans but i dunno about that.

i live in the north east of england i am part of a clan myself, but we don't go runnign around naked howling trying to scary people no we study their movements and so on and so forth..

well hope you reply



I can't say much about Lycans as I'm still researching them. Are they real? Well they sure think so. Maybe a type of werewolf? Possibly... Someone with some whacked out mental disorder? Well then maybe that's it. But one day I'll figure it out!

Now as for clans. Well i have no problem thinking a ot of people who think the same way form clubs and clans and gangs. And I believe I have one in my neighborhood... a clan of lycans..

As for you running around naked and howling trying to scare people, I should hope you don't do such things. That would just be weird... wait, did you say you observed them? Doesnt that mean you-- stalk them? Well given the alternative, I soppose thats okay...
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