It started out ok, they had that Romeo and Juliet (the 97 one, which I love), seemed this year it was going to be done really well. Until it changed the the next music. Jesus Christ Superstar (everyone here apparantly is on about the 'apocalypse' ok, so it's not just me on this board)...not just any song, oooh nooo, they had the play the part where they were CRUCIFYING HIM. No, actually it was the part where everyone was screaming to [have Him crucified. TELL ME WHY THE HELL ANYONE WOULD USE THAT PART FOR A CELEBRATION...AND RIGHT AFTER CHRISTMAS????????

They had a moment of silence for tsunami vioctims, and they celebrate with the part about people wanting Jesus crucified???? WHAT IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE??? Would you use ANYONE'S death for a celebration - on NYE????

I'm telling you not much freaks me out anymore, but the hair on the back of my neck was standing up when I heard that. When you watch part of it tonight (if you see it) you'll see what I mean.

I am APPALLED, and DISGUSTED. They could have used something else, even another part of the movie minus the crucifying if they wanted to add a religious theme to it.

Oh and they go on about NYE fireworks being scrappped because of tsunami victims (and I'm not being insensitive to the situation here, I know it's bad over 125,000 dead and 1 million missing) and they play a song about crucifying Jesus? I don't get it. It may not mean anything to some of you, but I'm telling you, they're gonna regret that.

halt puny unbelieveing mortal, for i, Ashley, Star Child, shall destroy you with my mighty....Book of Enoch....feel my wrath


sorry, i just had to do that. but seriously, how will they regret it? will you tell them that they will go to hell? something tells me they wouldnt listen to it.

if you ask me Ashley-Star*Child....

I think that Christianity religion symbols IS plain sick....if you cant watch that on the show you said....then why do ou still pray to a statue where he is being shown crusified???

Because apparently the music is sacralige...

I am also APPALLED and DISGUSTED.

Canceling fireworks, it's inhumane! I mean, i guess the reasons they did it are very good and fair, it's great they want to respect the Tsunami victims, but people need something good and joyful to get through it and fireworks is just the thing.

Which NYE celebration are we talking about?

The Sydney one. It didn't show fireworks from Melbourne, Brisbane, and it didn't say anything about the rest of the work (usually they do) so I think they've cancelled.

And as for Christian symbols. I don't particularly like seeing the crucifiction on the wall of EVERY church you go into either. They could have used a better symbol. The 'cross' was a symbol for belief in God before Jesus apparently, but it had nothing to do with crucifying.

And even if you aren't Christian, it wouldn't matter WHO it was, or WHOSE culture it was, what they did was still appalling.

And yes, people DO need fireworks, ESPECIALLY when the world is in any kind of crisis.

uhm... ok then...

My bet is that the guy organising this knows Ashley, and knew she was gonna be watching

How about the national anthem ?
Maybe next time they will rap it.
I could see dead heroes rising up on their graves.

...I see...



I take it then, everyone present was filled with moral outrage? There wasn't a smile to be seen? Everyone walked out en masse?

To be perfectly frank, using a a musical piece written for entertainment for the purpose of entertaining doesn't really seem quite so appalling as you make it out to be.

So the Music Director had an off-day. Nothing to get crazed about. Honestly can't people just relax and enjoy every once in awhile?

well i know Bostons fireworks arent cancelled, or New Yorks either. but then again when they stop the New York NYE celebration, its the end of the world and hell has frozen over
i saw Sydney celebration on tv a few years ago...it was brillant!
did paris stop theirs?

That 'musical piece' wasn't written for 'entertainment', it had a religious background. Everyone knows that, duh. And as for moral outrage, just how many moral people are there out there? Wait, there's so many I've lost count

For every moral person.. there's about 20-50 unmoral people...

Yeah well it was like they were crucifying Him all over again and they were HAPPY ABOUT IT. It was creepy.

Okay wait I am freaking lost. WHAT SONG!? AND WHY ARE THEY PUTTING JESUS UP ON NEW YEARS EVE OR WHAT NOT?! WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT!? DID I JUST NOT READ THE POST RIGHT!?

Do you know what the Jesus Christ Superstar movie is? If not, then yes I can understand why your lost. It's a movie/musical about the last week of Jesus life. They played the music that was associated with people screaming to have Him put to death - TO THE FIREWORKS. You know, they play music with NYE fireworks?

Wow, if you find it so boring Selket, why bother to add ANYTHING to my post?

So did Life of Brian. What's your point? Are you saying Andrew Loyd Webber didn't intend for Jesus Christ Superstar to be performed on a Broadway stage to an audience who had paid for tickets to see a musical extravaganza?

I quote: "duh."



Ah, but you are moral, aren't you? You know exactly what it is to be moral, and those who do not think as you do, by sheer definition, must be immoral. After all, only your standards of morality count, so no matter how many people out there do not believe what you do, it is you who is right, and they wrong.

Spare me your morality. If it robs you of the simple pleasure of the aesthetic beauty of a musical piece simply because you cannot forget what the script called for at the time, then it is a morality fated to bring far more misery than it is worth.

Didn't I just say it was a 'musical'. Yes it was to an extend 'entertainment' but that was not it's sole purpose.

As for morality, morality comes in many forms, but I tell you, it doesn't come in the form of the easy way out, or 'If I don't like it, I'll trash it'.

No. I said it was a musical. You repeated 'musical' and 'entertainment' in quotes, clearly meant to indicate a disgust at the use of these words in conjuction with the music.



It was undeniably its primary purpose. Broadway isn't there to teach lessons in life.



You think this song was played at the celebration for the purpose of trashing morality? It didn't occur to you that perhaps it was simply chosen for its majestic opening overture, much like "So Spake Zarusthra" (the opening theme from 2001: A Space Odyssey) is used to indicate the appearance of something awesome, as opposed to the dangers of artificially based intelligence? Music has a life of it's own. Stop chaining it down.

Why are you so outraged about this? Maybe the event organizers thought it was a great song, and were not promoting some anti-religious message. And personally I loved the music of Jesus Christ Superstar.

Yeah, I'm sure that was thier sole intent....

"HEY! I know! Let's play this piece of music this year... We'll be crusifying some jewish guy ALL OVER AGAIN!!! Won't that be great!!"



Ya know... They played the theme to Halo2 here... somehow I doubt they wanted everyone to go out and buy it, or reinact the game on the streets...

Ashley! STOP OVERREACTING! Be happy that they even aknowledged Jesus. And the crucifixion is nothing to be appaled by.... it is the reason why we believe Jesus is the Son of God. He was crucified, and he rose from the dead! If he weren't crucified, then he wouldn't have saved us from our sins. And how would the cross have been a symbol of christianity before Jesus' crucifixion if no one knew how Jesus was going to die? Jesus never told his disciples, he just said that he was going to be killed. It's stupid to even think that the cross could have possibly been a symbol of christianity before christianity even existed!

I wouldn't go as far as calling cancelling fireworks inhumane but you are right people need something to be happy and positive about. In London and Edinburgh there was a two minute silence which had me in tears but then as big ben chimed the biggest firework display I have seen yet started. I know this may sound odd but the whole thing to me was rather significant - In amongst tragedy there is still life and where there is life there's hope.

No the crucifiction is NOT something to be celebrating on NYE. And especially NOT the part where people are chanting to have Him crucified while people cheer it on with fireworks. Jesus didn't exactly WANT to die in such a way as I just said in another post.

I like the movie, and the music, what I don't like is what they used it for, and especially the part they picked.

Good, because absolutely no one at NYE was celebrating the crucifiction. In fact, chances are pretty good that no one other than yourself was even thinking about the crucifiction, or Jesus, or angry crowds screaming to have him crucified. Incidentally, exactly which part are you referring to? The theme is after he was crucified and met Judas on the way to heaven...actually, never mind. This topic has gone far longer than it merits.

And even this old anti-Xian loves the music of JCS. At the time it was written (when I was a young man), Xianity was more a part of the "establishment" and all us youngsters were anti-establishment, including a budding young playwright named Andrew Loyd Webber. If you will watch the play carefully, you will not see a Godman, but rather a young rebel, chaffing against the establishment! JCS is not a religious play, but rather a political play with a religious background!

No, not that part. If you have seen the movie, then part where the crowd had Jesus accused and were screaming at Pilate about Ceasar and and how they wanted Jesus crucified.

This country does still have religious people in it, so I'd say I wasn't the only one who noticed.

Well, uh, I hate to tell you this, but Jesus DID go against 'the establishment' and it was most definantly of a religious background. My mother saw it in HER teens, and the church apparantly *banned* people from seeing it, which is ridiculous. And, yes my mother is very religious, but even religious people do, believe it or not, have minds of their own.

No my child, your Jesus (if he ever existed) did not go against the establishment. The establishment in his day was the law and did he not say that the law would not be changed one jot or tittle? That is hardly anti-establishment! The very fact that the churches banned the play/movie is proof positive that it was anti-establishment, a political statement against the establishment in which the church was a part of. It was a political statement, set to a religious context, at least according to Andrew Lloyd Webber in an interview in 1977, but then with your 210 IQ and book of Enoch you must know his intents better than the playwright.

hehe, i really liked that movie. Still don't know why...
The ending was the best part.