First of all, I would like to say that I think that this best belongs in this forum, rother than the general off-topic one, since most of the members rarely go to any others.
Now, the Council of Believers has nearly no stucture, and our main thread doesn't do a very good job of providing it. Without any sort of structure, the group is falling apart. We end up asking each other what is going on, but the truth is none of us do. This led to to the idea that maybe we should have some rules or guidelines.
Since I am only but one member, I think should group our thoughts and ideas for this together. This way, we have a team effort here, instead of having each other constantly asking what is going on.
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You should elect a small group, 3 or 4 people, to make important decisions in the group like letting in new members and such. It's the very basics of a good group structure. 
Coolies! Could I join the group? I beleive a lot. And I know a lot about beleifs!
Ahh, organization. The key to emotional validation and support, and the essence of acceptance.
QUOTE(BurnSide @ Dec 31 2004, 01:19 PM)
You should elect a small group, 3 or 4 people, to make important decisions in the group like letting in new members and such. It's the very basics of a good group structure.
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Already done.
QUOTE(Walken @ Dec 31 2004, 01:39 PM)
Coolies! Could I join the group? I beleive a lot. And I know a lot about beleifs!
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You would probably have to ask in the group's main thread. I would let you in, but I'm not one of the people who can do that.
Yeah well...I believe in stuff 
, and I'm a member, so....um yeah.
Who are our leaders again
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, and I'm a member, so....um yeah.Who are our leaders again
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Ashley, arwen, and pyromaniac. Pyro hasn't been around in a while, though. It might be about time to get another spokesperson.
I wanna join! Who can I ask that could let me in?
I'd be interested in being the spokesperson! ...But, when i'm all important, could i be the SPOKES PENGUIN??
Spokes penguin haha!!!! Penguins are cool......
Are you accepting anyone or just the ones that are serious about it, like the penguin club? 
Oh we're serious about it, but we just felt like goofing off 
what's the purpose of the group again? I hsven't seen or heard of any.. I refuse to join until i sse he full contract
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what's the purpose of the group again? I hsven't seen or heard of any.. I refuse to join until i sse he full contract
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That's what we're trying to figure out.
*looks down at her thread, sighs*
All right, if no one will post any ideas, I'll start.
-Members of the group should help each other out in times of controversy.
Good idea, or not? Discuss.
C'mon people, what's the use of the believers club if we sit on our bums all day? Work with me here.
Skeptics don't like to come here for what they call 'Childish Ignorance'........ *sigh*......so I guess there will be no controversy.
The uppity club I think is going down like a meteor too....
The uppity club I think is going down like a meteor too....
QUOTE(Hailo_hellFIRE @ Jan 2 2005, 07:49 PM)
Skeptics don't like to come here for what they call 'Childish Ignorance'........ *sigh*......so I guess there will be no controversy.
The uppity club I think is going down like a meteor too....
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The uppity club I think is going down like a meteor too....
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*hangs head* Yeah, what's the point? Things have ceased to be interesting. Even Insight and PPAN are getting along. What we we supposed to do, go quietly practice our tk?
QUOTE(Whiskers @ Jan 2 2005, 07:55 PM)
QUOTE(Hailo_hellFIRE @ Jan 2 2005, 07:49 PM)
Skeptics don't like to come here for what they call 'Childish Ignorance'........ *sigh*......so I guess there will be no controversy.
The uppity club I think is going down like a meteor too....
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The uppity club I think is going down like a meteor too....
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*hangs head* Yeah, what's the point? Things have ceased to be interesting. Even Insight and PPAN are getting along. What we we supposed to do, go quietly practice our tk?
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We can acknowledge ourselfs of the Unexplained Mysteries and use it as our benefits when the Psychic Breakthrough comes, the Extra Terrestrial invasion finally dawns and we figure out to make cages that catch ghostly appirations and spirits.....
But I don't know, I really came here for information and to know other people wanting that information, I suppose we can keep the club....but I wish clubs would interact with other forums about Unexplained Mysteries.
I have an idea. Why not make different sects of belivers such as the belivers of psi and the general belivers of stuff?
QUOTE(jacob @ Jan 2 2005, 08:11 PM)
I have an idea. Why not make different sects of belivers such as the belivers of psi and the general belivers of stuff?
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Sounds interesting. Most believers would fall into more than one, though.
Spokes penguin....Linux anyone?
QUOTE(Whiskers @ Jan 2 2005, 08:13 PM)
QUOTE(jacob @ Jan 2 2005, 08:11 PM)
I have an idea. Why not make different sects of belivers such as the belivers of psi and the general belivers of stuff?
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Sounds interesting. Most believers would fall into more than one, though.
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Is that a problem? We could like have people put tags on their name that signifies what they believe in, or tags on their name that signifies what they are skeptical about.
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QUOTE(jacob @ Jan 2 2005, 08:11 PM)
I have an idea. Why not make different sects of belivers such as the belivers of psi and the general belivers of stuff?
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Sounds interesting. Most believers would fall into more than one, though.
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That could be a problem but it could still be done.
Sorr i posted at the same time as Hailo but he had the same thought.
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The Uppity Club I think is going down like a meteor too...
Don't count us uppities out yet folks!
Remember, most of us have argued about these same things with different people over and over. We just need to relax once in awhile...And most of us belonged to different groups before this one. The names may change, but the Skeptics remain..
QUOTE(Falco Rex @ Jan 3 2005, 08:47 PM)
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The Uppity Club I think is going down like a meteor too...
Don't count us uppities out yet folks!
Remember, most of us have argued about these same things with different people over and over. We just need to relax once in awhile...And most of us belonged to different groups before this one. The names may change, but the Skeptics remain..
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So when should we be expecting the next wave of you uppities people?
Always!! Ha ha!!..OK; seriously, I can't help but be disappointed in our performance lately. Including mine. I guess once the older members get in an arguing mood again and the newer members lose some hesitance we'll all go back to fighting like normal..
QUOTE(Hailo_hellFIRE @ Jan 2 2005, 08:49 PM)
Skeptics don't like to come here for what they call 'Childish Ignorance'........ *sigh*......so I guess there will be no controversy.
The uppity club I think is going down like a meteor too....
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The uppity club I think is going down like a meteor too....
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Trust me skeptics will come... I know
When having an argument about whether there is a God or not, simply
bring up this question: Would you bet your life on it?
Because it is a sort of a bet when you ask them. That is if you believe in God.
bring up this question: Would you bet your life on it?
Because it is a sort of a bet when you ask them. That is if you believe in God.
Also... Can I join??? please!!!
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That is, if you believe in God.
But I do believe in a God, Norman. I just don't believe he boots around in a flying saucer..
I would like to be the spokesgirl.Ur very frost.
QUOTE(Falco Rex @ Jan 4 2005, 02:08 AM)
Always!! Ha ha!!..OK; seriously, I can't help but be disappointed in our performance lately. Including mine. I guess once the older members get in an arguing mood again and the newer members lose some hesitance we'll all go back to fighting like normal..
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I'll keep an eye out.
So basically this is a club where the members will support each other when another person is challenging their beliefs? While that may sound effective for preserving them, it will prove completely ineffective with any established online debater.
I have no trouble picking through a thread and addressing each individual comment and sentence seperately in one large post. However, many younger people do not have the tpying skills I have, so said club would be effective in staving off "kiddie skeptics". But they are not the ones to worry about.
Don't count us uppities out yet folks! tongue.gif Remember, most of us have argued about these same things with different people over and over.
And over, and over, AND OVER! Infact, most of the time it is like talking to a brick wall! And most of the kids here don't have the cognitive capacity to understand the ligic of the arguments presented to them, not naming any names of course.
So when should we be expecting the next wave of you uppities people?
I think me and Stellar are doing a pretty good job of taking over for the "uppity" group right now.
Always!! Ha ha!!..OK; seriously, I can't help but be disappointed in our performance lately. Including mine. I guess once the older members get in an arguing mood again and the newer members lose some hesitance we'll all go back to fighting like normal..
Ah yes, the glory of combat. How I yearn for conflict in these end of days.
When having an argument about whether there is a God or not, simply
bring up this question: Would you bet your life on it?
Because it is a sort of a bet when you ask them. That is if you believe in God.
Every man woman and child has bet their life on it. There is absolutely no way around it. And most of us are quite happy with the bet we have made. I am really not into arguing whether of not God exists, because I see now that nothing I say can ever change a person's mind. Only that person themselves can change their mind. No so called "proof" will ever sway anyone if they do not want to believe it. And it works that way with my side of things too. Only the individual can personally "prove" and validate a spiritual existance, or a mighty creator. It comes down to an individual basis.
Each unto his own.
But I do believe in a God, Norman. I just don't believe he boots around in a flying saucer
If anything, God would ride in a pimped out Ferrari made of flames.
I would like to be the spokesgirl.Ur very frost.
I would like to DE-nominate this person, because not only can they not form a coherent sentence, but they rely on broken abbreviations. No offense sheila12. Just making an observation.
In any case, I doubt I would ever want to join said club, because while I believe in a psionic realm, I am extremely skeptical of any one who claims to be proficianet in them. This is mainly due to my education in psychology, illuionary arts, and my side studies in the art of deception.
I really have a very hard time believing even a single person here has any sort of psionic ability, but I am willing to entertain the though of it.
There are forces at play in our world beyond any of us. And layers which can never be understood.
I have no trouble picking through a thread and addressing each individual comment and sentence seperately in one large post. However, many younger people do not have the tpying skills I have, so said club would be effective in staving off "kiddie skeptics". But they are not the ones to worry about.
Don't count us uppities out yet folks! tongue.gif Remember, most of us have argued about these same things with different people over and over.
And over, and over, AND OVER! Infact, most of the time it is like talking to a brick wall! And most of the kids here don't have the cognitive capacity to understand the ligic of the arguments presented to them, not naming any names of course.
So when should we be expecting the next wave of you uppities people?
I think me and Stellar are doing a pretty good job of taking over for the "uppity" group right now.
Always!! Ha ha!!..OK; seriously, I can't help but be disappointed in our performance lately. Including mine. I guess once the older members get in an arguing mood again and the newer members lose some hesitance we'll all go back to fighting like normal..
Ah yes, the glory of combat. How I yearn for conflict in these end of days.
When having an argument about whether there is a God or not, simply
bring up this question: Would you bet your life on it?
Because it is a sort of a bet when you ask them. That is if you believe in God.
Every man woman and child has bet their life on it. There is absolutely no way around it. And most of us are quite happy with the bet we have made. I am really not into arguing whether of not God exists, because I see now that nothing I say can ever change a person's mind. Only that person themselves can change their mind. No so called "proof" will ever sway anyone if they do not want to believe it. And it works that way with my side of things too. Only the individual can personally "prove" and validate a spiritual existance, or a mighty creator. It comes down to an individual basis.
Each unto his own.
But I do believe in a God, Norman. I just don't believe he boots around in a flying saucer
If anything, God would ride in a pimped out Ferrari made of flames.
I would like to be the spokesgirl.Ur very frost.
I would like to DE-nominate this person, because not only can they not form a coherent sentence, but they rely on broken abbreviations. No offense sheila12. Just making an observation.
In any case, I doubt I would ever want to join said club, because while I believe in a psionic realm, I am extremely skeptical of any one who claims to be proficianet in them. This is mainly due to my education in psychology, illuionary arts, and my side studies in the art of deception.
I really have a very hard time believing even a single person here has any sort of psionic ability, but I am willing to entertain the though of it.
There are forces at play in our world beyond any of us. And layers which can never be understood.
Meh, every day I have trouble finding a reason for why this club should even be here. I believe in psionics, but do I have do be in a club to prove it? The banners are nice, but... I fail to see a point in it anymore.
QUOTE(Curiosity @ Jan 4 2005, 03:13 AM)
Meh, every day I have trouble finding a reason for why this club should even be here. I believe in psionics, but do I have do be in a club to prove it? The banners are nice, but... I fail to see a point in it anymore.
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I would not be just for psionics but for every subject. It's reason could be to help change minds of non-belivers and to teach people of different things too.
A skeptic trying to teach a believer is one thing,
a beleiver trying to teach a skeptic is another.
If there's one thing I've learned here, it's that skeptics are suckers for solid proof. It's also something that the believers have a serious lack of.
a beleiver trying to teach a skeptic is another.
If there's one thing I've learned here, it's that skeptics are suckers for solid proof. It's also something that the believers have a serious lack of.
Curiosity/Whiskers is starting to sound more and more like one of us everyday. You're always welcome on this side of the fence. I'm always looking for new talent and keen minds; both of which are in short supply as of late...
We really don't care who believes what as long as they're willing to examine everything before they draw their own conclusions. Belief is fine; blindness is not..
We really don't care who believes what as long as they're willing to examine everything before they draw their own conclusions. Belief is fine; blindness is not..
QUOTE(Falco Rex @ Jan 4 2005, 03:59 AM)
We really don't care who believes what as long as they're willing to examine everything before they draw their own conclusions. Belief is fine; blindness is not..
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I agree.
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Curiosity/Whiskers is starting to sound more and more like one of us everyday.
Wow, someone actually noticed.
I can't believe how ignorant I was when I first joined. 
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We really don't care who believes what as long as they're willing to examine everything before they draw their own conclusions. Belief is fine; blindness is not..
Once again Falco, I admire your skill with words. Well said.
Well then. Wipe that sig and join the Dark side! I am a co-founder of our little movement, so if you want to be in, I can say you are with assuredness..
QUOTE(Falco Rex @ Jan 3 2005, 08:29 PM)
Well then. Wipe that sig and join the Dark side! I am a co-founder of our little movement, so if you want to be in, I can say you are with assuredness..
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I don't think I'll be joining anything anytime soon. I'd rather be on the outside looking in that the other way around.
Wise words, young lady. But I'll keep the offer open if you change your mind..
QUOTE(Curiosity @ Dec 31 2004, 09:42 PM)
Ashley, arwen, and pyromaniac. Pyro hasn't been around in a while, though. It might be about time to get another spokesperson.
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Well I'm back. Is there going to be an official list of members or something like that or are we just going to let anyone who wants to be in get in? It still seems pretty popular with new members constantly joining.
And irish is still lurking in the shadows with loaded musket 
Awaiting orders
Awaiting orders
QUOTE(Insight @ Jan 4 2005, 03:06 AM)
So basically this is a club where the members will support each other when another person is challenging their beliefs? While that may sound effective for preserving them, it will prove completely ineffective with any established online debater.
I have no trouble picking through a thread and addressing each individual comment and sentence seperately in one large post. However, many younger people do not have the tpying skills I have, so said club would be effective in staving off "kiddie skeptics". But they are not the ones to worry about.
Don't count us uppities out yet folks! tongue.gif Remember, most of us have argued about these same things with different people over and over.
And over, and over, AND OVER! Infact, most of the time it is like talking to a brick wall! And most of the kids here don't have the cognitive capacity to understand the ligic of the arguments presented to them, not naming any names of course.
So when should we be expecting the next wave of you uppities people?
I think me and Stellar are doing a pretty good job of taking over for the "uppity" group right now.
Always!! Ha ha!!..OK; seriously, I can't help but be disappointed in our performance lately. Including mine. I guess once the older members get in an arguing mood again and the newer members lose some hesitance we'll all go back to fighting like normal..
Ah yes, the glory of combat. How I yearn for conflict in these end of days.
When having an argument about whether there is a God or not, simply
bring up this question: Would you bet your life on it?
Because it is a sort of a bet when you ask them. That is if you believe in God.
Every man woman and child has bet their life on it. There is absolutely no way around it. And most of us are quite happy with the bet we have made. I am really not into arguing whether of not God exists, because I see now that nothing I say can ever change a person's mind. Only that person themselves can change their mind. No so called "proof" will ever sway anyone if they do not want to believe it. And it works that way with my side of things too. Only the individual can personally "prove" and validate a spiritual existance, or a mighty creator. It comes down to an individual basis.
Each unto his own.
But I do believe in a God, Norman. I just don't believe he boots around in a flying saucer
If anything, God would ride in a pimped out Ferrari made of flames.
I would like to be the spokesgirl.Ur very frost.
I would like to DE-nominate this person, because not only can they not form a coherent sentence, but they rely on broken abbreviations. No offense sheila12. Just making an observation.
In any case, I doubt I would ever want to join said club, because while I believe in a psionic realm, I am extremely skeptical of any one who claims to be proficianet in them. This is mainly due to my education in psychology, illuionary arts, and my side studies in the art of deception.
I really have a very hard time believing even a single person here has any sort of psionic ability, but I am willing to entertain the though of it.
There are forces at play in our world beyond any of us. And layers which can never be understood.
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I have no trouble picking through a thread and addressing each individual comment and sentence seperately in one large post. However, many younger people do not have the tpying skills I have, so said club would be effective in staving off "kiddie skeptics". But they are not the ones to worry about.
Don't count us uppities out yet folks! tongue.gif Remember, most of us have argued about these same things with different people over and over.
And over, and over, AND OVER! Infact, most of the time it is like talking to a brick wall! And most of the kids here don't have the cognitive capacity to understand the ligic of the arguments presented to them, not naming any names of course.
So when should we be expecting the next wave of you uppities people?
I think me and Stellar are doing a pretty good job of taking over for the "uppity" group right now.
Always!! Ha ha!!..OK; seriously, I can't help but be disappointed in our performance lately. Including mine. I guess once the older members get in an arguing mood again and the newer members lose some hesitance we'll all go back to fighting like normal..
Ah yes, the glory of combat. How I yearn for conflict in these end of days.
When having an argument about whether there is a God or not, simply
bring up this question: Would you bet your life on it?
Because it is a sort of a bet when you ask them. That is if you believe in God.
Every man woman and child has bet their life on it. There is absolutely no way around it. And most of us are quite happy with the bet we have made. I am really not into arguing whether of not God exists, because I see now that nothing I say can ever change a person's mind. Only that person themselves can change their mind. No so called "proof" will ever sway anyone if they do not want to believe it. And it works that way with my side of things too. Only the individual can personally "prove" and validate a spiritual existance, or a mighty creator. It comes down to an individual basis.
Each unto his own.
But I do believe in a God, Norman. I just don't believe he boots around in a flying saucer
If anything, God would ride in a pimped out Ferrari made of flames.
I would like to be the spokesgirl.Ur very frost.
I would like to DE-nominate this person, because not only can they not form a coherent sentence, but they rely on broken abbreviations. No offense sheila12. Just making an observation.
In any case, I doubt I would ever want to join said club, because while I believe in a psionic realm, I am extremely skeptical of any one who claims to be proficianet in them. This is mainly due to my education in psychology, illuionary arts, and my side studies in the art of deception.
I really have a very hard time believing even a single person here has any sort of psionic ability, but I am willing to entertain the though of it.
There are forces at play in our world beyond any of us. And layers which can never be understood.
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Wow. Wish I had said that.
You know insight, I side with you, but, I don't mind the idea here that most people who claim they can make psi balls really can, because it took me like a month to make one... but maybe because I meditated for years and years... idk anywho. All I can do is make psi balls and havn't done that for a long while... anywho methinks the uppity groups and belivers groups are stupid, Who likes black and white movies? I'd rather have the same movie in color (lest the black and white is done one purpose to add flavor to the movie) I'd rather have people argue specific points not say "I side with the believers, so even though, in my heart I don't belive in monkeykinesis, I say I do" it would be better if everyone used their mind to the ir full capacity instead of limiting them selves. Also, Although I believe in the psionic realm, I don't believe everyone who claims it here can really do it... too many liar mama boy's here (no offense mama boy's I am one too, reminded me of this stupid kid in my school who lies and has like lesbian moms anyway, back on subject) Too many liars in the world, even though I try to trust everyone... You can usually tell who gets the whole unsaid brother hood thing of trust. I believe I do, If I ask someone for change I don't count the money, I trust they gave it to me, and usually, if you trust them then they will help you out. I remember oncet I asked for chage for a $5 from this person, he gave me change, and I said "c'ya" and started walking, he gave me the dollar that he didn't, I know if I would've counted it, he probably be like "b****!" because he is a "bad-boy" in school or whatever, but what people don't get is the whole honor thing, people like that have lots of honor and dignity, in my world, people would e judged on their honor, and their courtesy, not just their actions, but their intentions to the best extent possible, like god would judge, by intentions, my shoulder is getting sore.
iam a believer and a member too , what's the plan ?
i think the fence is the best place for me half the time. 
i dont believe in thigns without looking for some other explanation first. and its easier to choose no side. then if you make a decision noone can berate you for it and not being "on their side" not that anyone i know would do that but still
i dont believe in thigns without looking for some other explanation first. and its easier to choose no side. then if you make a decision noone can berate you for it and not being "on their side" not that anyone i know would do that but still
QUOTE(arwenpotter @ Feb 11 2005, 11:29 PM)
i think the fence is the best place for me half the time. i dont believe in thigns without looking for some other explanation first. and its easier to choose no side. then if you make a decision noone can berate you for it and not being "on their side" not that anyone i know would do that but still
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Agree....
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