Unexplained Mysteries Discussion Forums > Nessie in a cave underwater

JennRose

Jan 5 2005, 02:19 AM

QUOTE(Diebytheflyguy @ Jan 4 2005, 07:20 PM)

There are no channels leading out of Loch Ness. It is impossible.
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Wait...haven't some animals shown up occasionally from the sea? I thought I remembered something about a seal in the Loch or something. And sturgeons...(but they may be fresh water).

Never mind, I have nothing to back this up with other than what I think I heard...

JennRose

Jan 5 2005, 02:23 AM

QUOTE(mr_halo @ Jan 4 2005, 10:18 PM)

this is kind of similar....a supposed photo of nessie underwater

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Well, I doubt that one because the Loch is SO murky. Three feet down and there's hardly any visibility. But in that pic the water is well illuminated and pretty clear.

mr_halo

Jan 5 2005, 02:26 AM

QUOTE(JennRose @ Jan 5 2005, 02:23 AM)

QUOTE(mr_halo @ Jan 4 2005, 10:18 PM)

this is kind of similar....a supposed photo of nessie underwater

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Well, I doubt that one because the Loch is SO murky. Three feet down and there's hardly any visibility. But in that pic the water is well illuminated and pretty clear.
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its like that because someone on cryptozoology.com enhanced the original photo...

also it could of been taken by a camera on a submersible, with lights on it...

Canadian Rottweiler

Jan 5 2005, 02:31 AM

QUOTE(JennRose @ Jan 4 2005, 06:19 PM)

QUOTE(Diebytheflyguy @ Jan 4 2005, 07:20 PM)

There are no channels leading out of Loch Ness. It is impossible.
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Wait...haven't some animals shown up occasionally from the sea? I thought I remembered something about a seal in the Loch or something. And sturgeons...(but they may be fresh water).

Never mind, I have nothing to back this up with other than what I think I heard...

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Yup

My proof:Bull sharks for example.They obviously live in the ocean,yet some bull sharks live in lakes.Therefor,saltwater bull sharks,and freshwater bullsharks exist.That is the cause of saltwater and freshwater being joined

Therefor,they travel to channels to get back and forth.

Canadian Rottweiler

Jan 5 2005, 02:32 AM

QUOTE(mr_halo @ Jan 4 2005, 06:26 PM)

QUOTE(JennRose @ Jan 5 2005, 02:23 AM)

QUOTE(mr_halo @ Jan 4 2005, 10:18 PM)

this is kind of similar....a supposed photo of nessie underwater

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Well, I doubt that one because the Loch is SO murky. Three feet down and there's hardly any visibility. But in that pic the water is well illuminated and pretty clear.
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its like that because someone on cryptozoology.com enhanced the original photo...

also it could of been taken by a camera on a submersible, with lights on it...

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Good point

mr_halo

Jan 5 2005, 02:32 AM

QUOTE(Devilwolf @ Jan 5 2005, 02:30 AM)

Look closely at Halos pic, its GODZILLA!!!!!
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i don't see it, looks like a blur to me....

blur, blur, blur....etc...

Fluffybunny

Jan 5 2005, 02:35 AM

This a nice and friendly warning for everyone here; Please stop the bickering and stay on topic

Arguing back and forth from post to post is not going to get anyone anywhere and will only lead to closed threads and official warnings or getting posting priveledges suspended for time...

Everyone here has very different ideas as to what they feel is going on regarding nessie, and you are all entitled to your own opinions.

Please be respectful of others opinions and give some thought to what you are posting before you submit your post. Personal or snide comments are not welcome or tolerated

JennRose

Jan 5 2005, 02:37 AM

QUOTE(Canadian Rottweiler @ Jan 4 2005, 10:31 PM)

QUOTE(JennRose @ Jan 4 2005, 06:19 PM)

QUOTE(Diebytheflyguy @ Jan 4 2005, 07:20 PM)

There are no channels leading out of Loch Ness. It is impossible.
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Wait...haven't some animals shown up occasionally from the sea? I thought I remembered something about a seal in the Loch or something. And sturgeons...(but they may be fresh water).

Never mind, I have nothing to back this up with other than what I think I heard...

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Yup

My proof:Bull sharks for example.They obviously live in the ocean,yet some bull sharks live in lakes.Therefor,saltwater bull sharks,and freshwater bullsharks exist.That is the cause of saltwater and freshwater being joined

Therefor,they travel to channels to get back and forth.
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This is true, but I was referring to just Loch Ness. I swear I think I've heard about sea creatures in it... But yeah, sharks and such are found pretty far up fresh water rivers.

JennRose

Jan 5 2005, 02:40 AM

QUOTE(mr_halo @ Jan 4 2005, 10:26 PM)

its like that because someone on cryptozoology.com enhanced the original photo...

also it could of been taken by a camera on a submersible, with lights on it...

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Enhancing the pic could help, but bright lights in such murky water make a very dull brown, hazy photo. Loch Ness is known for how hard it is to see under the water, the silt levels are extremely high.

Devilwolf

Jan 5 2005, 02:43 AM

Halo you have been fooled, a suggestion would be to go watch the movie godzilla, the newer version with mathew broderick and watch closely on the part where you see him swimming underwater, trust me I've seen this movie a million times, that i bet someone got from the movie

Here's a outline

mr_halo

Jan 5 2005, 02:46 AM

QUOTE(Devilwolf @ Jan 5 2005, 02:43 AM)

Halo you have been fooled, a suggestion would be to go watch the movie godzilla, the newer version with mathew broderick and watch closely on the part where you see him swimming underwater, trust me I've seen this movie a million times, that i bet someone got from the movie

Here's a outline
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i was not fooled, i just posted a photo...

Canadian Rottweiler

Jan 5 2005, 02:54 AM

QUOTE(Fluffybunny @ Jan 4 2005, 06:35 PM)

This a nice and friendly warning for everyone here; Please stop the bickering and stay on topic

Arguing back and forth from post to post is not going to get anyone anywhere and will only lead to closed threads and official warnings or getting posting priveledges suspended for time...

Everyone here has very different ideas as to what they feel is going on regarding nessie, and you are all entitled to your own opinions.

Please be respectful of others opinions and give some thought to what you are posting before you submit your post. Personal or snide comments are not welcome or tolerated
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Exactly

Devilwolf

Jan 5 2005, 04:19 AM

hey halo what site did you get that pic from anyways?

AutumnDragon

Jan 5 2005, 08:47 AM

QUOTE(Canadian Rottweiler @ Jan 4 2005, 02:03 AM)

Ok,this is Nessie.Was obviously taken underwater.I don't know much about it,so does anyone else have some info?
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looks like a rock to me

Canadian Rottweiler

Jan 5 2005, 08:48 AM

QUOTE(TwilightDemon @ Jan 5 2005, 12:47 AM)

QUOTE(Canadian Rottweiler @ Jan 4 2005, 02:03 AM)

Ok,this is Nessie.Was obviously taken underwater.I don't know much about it,so does anyone else have some info?
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looks like a rock to me

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Yeah,there have been many possibilites brought up.Rock,cloud,seal,or maybe nessie...

The Skeptic Eric Raven

Jan 5 2005, 04:22 PM

I will try to be a little nicer to cr, but I will post my to his findings every post that deserves it(which is pretty much every one), but nicer.lol.

TheCrow

Jan 5 2005, 09:08 PM

QUOTE(Devilwolf @ Jan 5 2005, 02:43 AM)

Halo you have been fooled, a suggestion would be to go watch the movie godzilla, the newer version with mathew broderick and watch closely on the part where you see him swimming underwater, trust me I've seen this movie a million times, that i bet someone got from the movie

Here's a outline
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With regards to the pic that Halo posted I beleive that Devilwolf is right. Somebody has photoshopped the head of the American Godzilla (or as Godzilla fanboys called him, GINO - Godzilla In Name Only, as he is nothing like his original Japanese counterpart besides how he was created) into the pic of an underwater environment.

I didn't see it at first but when Devilwolf mentioned it I saw it straight away.

eveningsky339

Jan 5 2005, 09:15 PM

Looks like a rock.

Diebytheflyguy

Jan 5 2005, 10:40 PM

QUOTE(Canadian Rottweiler @ Jan 4 2005, 09:31 PM)

QUOTE(JennRose @ Jan 4 2005, 06:19 PM)

QUOTE(Diebytheflyguy @ Jan 4 2005, 07:20 PM)

There are no channels leading out of Loch Ness. It is impossible.
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Wait...haven't some animals shown up occasionally from the sea? I thought I remembered something about a seal in the Loch or something. And sturgeons...(but they may be fresh water).

Never mind, I have nothing to back this up with other than what I think I heard...

[right][snapback]436902[/snapback][/right]

Yup

My proof:Bull sharks for example.They obviously live in the ocean,yet some bull sharks live in lakes.Therefor,saltwater bull sharks,and freshwater bullsharks exist.That is the cause of saltwater and freshwater being joined

Therefor,they travel to channels to get back and forth.
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No because this meeting of fresh, and salt water would make the fresh water in Loch Ness salty. Loch Ness is way above sea level, and if there were canals it would level out. And would it even be possible for something to swim miles in an underwater canal (i.e. something blocking entrances, getting air, or even having enough room to swim)

QUOTE(Devilwolf @ Jan 4 2005, 07:56 PM)

the thing about the channels beneath the loch seems pretty interesting if you find the site
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The map dosen't show any channels leading out the Loch. It shows canals (which are not channels) that lead into the Loch from the entrances.

There are no channels leading out of Loch Ness. It is impossible.

Devilwolf

Jan 5 2005, 11:09 PM

Too bad you couldn't have gotten a newer picture of the loch with zoom on it diebytheflyguy, It would have been a greater help.

ABOTU

Jan 5 2005, 11:11 PM

QUOTE

There are no channels leading out of Loch Ness. It is impossible.

Well supposedly she can walk on land

Canadian Rottweiler

Jan 6 2005, 12:10 AM

QUOTE(A Believer of the Unexplained @ Jan 5 2005, 03:11 PM)

QUOTE

There are no channels leading out of Loch Ness. It is impossible.

Well supposedly she can walk on land
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Actually yes,plesiosaurs are said to be able to breathe on land,just like a crocodile or alligator,or anaconda...

Devilwolf

Jan 6 2005, 12:50 AM

If we drain the loch we'll find nessie...

Canadian Rottweiler

Jan 6 2005, 12:54 AM

QUOTE(Devilwolf @ Jan 5 2005, 04:50 PM)

If we drain the loch we'll find nessie...
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Eaxctly,even though that seems impossible..

Devilwolf

Jan 6 2005, 12:58 AM

Well its worth a try and then we can find the true secrets of the loch

Canadian Rottweiler

Jan 6 2005, 01:19 AM

QUOTE(Devilwolf @ Jan 5 2005, 04:58 PM)

Well its worth a try and then we can find the true secrets of the loch
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How could such a thing be accomplished?

Devilwolf

Jan 6 2005, 01:21 AM

i don't know yet. but there has to be a way if nessie is to be found in our lifetime

Canadian Rottweiler

Jan 6 2005, 01:26 AM

QUOTE(Devilwolf @ Jan 5 2005, 05:21 PM)

i don't know yet. but there has to be a way if nessie is to be found in our lifetime
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But if people did drain out loch ness,and nessie is found,then where will nessie go once the water is gone?And what about all the life down there?Is would be a ecological disaster.Unless somehow the water was transported into tankers,and then held,until the Loch is drained,then it could be unloaded back in.But that would cost so much money...

Devilwolf

Jan 6 2005, 01:29 AM

just think they would save money not having to go on expeditions every time someone says they saw nessie, but it does take the fun out of searching for her

Mad Manfred

Jan 6 2005, 01:55 AM

QUOTE(Canadian Rottweiler @ Jan 6 2005, 12:26 PM)

QUOTE(Devilwolf @ Jan 5 2005, 05:21 PM)

i don't know yet. but there has to be a way if nessie is to be found in our lifetime
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But if people did drain out loch ness,and nessie is found,then where will nessie go once the water is gone?And what about all the life down there?Is would be a ecological disaster.Unless somehow the water was transported into tankers,and then held,until the Loch is drained,then it could be unloaded back in.But that would cost so much money...
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Yeah sure...lets kill millions and millions of creatures and tamper with nature just so we can see if Nessie is down there.

Even if we did that, there is little chance Nessie would be found if there are caves. It'd just go and hide.

Devilwolf

Jan 6 2005, 01:59 AM

it was just a thought i didn't really think of ther consequences that much

Mad Manfred

Jan 6 2005, 02:42 AM

I also think that people rely on the loch for fishing...so you'd be affecting an entire eco-system

Best thing we can do IMO is come up with more sophisticated sonar and subs.

Devilwolf

Jan 6 2005, 02:49 AM

we need to get more than just one expedition team in there at once if we have em on the top and beneath the water we might scare something that one of them will see

Canadian Rottweiler

Jan 6 2005, 03:08 AM

QUOTE(Devilwolf @ Jan 5 2005, 06:49 PM)

we need to get more than just one expedition team in there at once if we have em on the top and beneath the water we might scare something that one of them will see
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We need many many teams using sonar.There must be a boat covering nearly every part of the lake.But the cost for that would be so big,that only the governement could pay,or many of the cryptozoologists and marine biologists avalable would have to all go at once.Which is possible...

Mad Manfred

Jan 6 2005, 03:49 AM

John Travolta is a big nessie fan...convince him to finance it

Devilwolf

Jan 6 2005, 03:55 AM

or use oprah to get to him

Canadian Rottweiler

Jan 6 2005, 07:15 AM

QUOTE(Mad Manfred @ Jan 5 2005, 07:49 PM)

John Travolta is a big nessie fan...convince him to finance it

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He is???

Well,1 day,marine biologists,cryptozoologists,other people,and some celebs will all join 1 group,and find the evidence that these cryptids exist.It will all happen one day,especially with all the new technology...

Bone_Collector

Jan 6 2005, 07:51 AM

Wouldn't it be a good idea to use the Crittercam to get good footage of Nessie and
other such mysterious creatures?

Walken

Jan 6 2005, 07:53 AM

Actually theres very little life in the loch other than vegatation.

Walken

Jan 6 2005, 07:54 AM

Is draining a loch and killing all its inhabitants really the best way to get footage of nessie? A creature that some beleive doesn't even exsist? Would you rather wait, then get a live nessie, or get footage of a dead one now.

Bone_Collector

Jan 6 2005, 12:25 PM

QUOTE(Walken @ Jan 6 2005, 01:24 PM)

Is draining a loch and killing all its inhabitants really the best way to get footage of nessie? A creature that some beleive doesn't even exsist? Would you rather wait, then get a live nessie, or get footage of a dead one now.
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Who spoke about draining the lake?

Canadian Rottweiler

Jan 6 2005, 03:38 PM

QUOTE(Bone_Collector @ Jan 5 2005, 11:51 PM)

Wouldn't it be a good idea to use the Crittercam to get good footage of Nessie and
other such mysterious creatures?
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Good idea.Put a crittercam on a bunch of seals

Mad Manfred

Jan 6 2005, 03:44 PM

Are you guys aware of the live cam on loch Ness?

Cobalt Demon

Jan 6 2005, 05:42 PM

BRILLITANT IDEA CR! We all should set you up as a chairman for Nessie searching group so you can ruin the enviroment for something that PROBABLY doesn't even exist.

DamienPriest

Jan 6 2005, 06:29 PM

Looks like it could be part of the rock formation there. However, out of all the myths and legends of Cryptology I believe there is something in Lochness. It's been spotted for many, many centuries. How can you fake something that's been spotted since the late 1600's?

I heard one of the famous people who has been hunting Lochness over the years that this Spring they are planning on a 2005 expedition. The professor in charge built a 44Ft. submarine that will fit and reach the depths of Lochness.

That's what I read and heard...

Perhaps in Spring of 2005 we'll all get more conclusive evidence of Nessie...

Matt ~

Devilwolf

Jan 6 2005, 11:20 PM

Damien did you read about that on Gust? I wonder if it would hurt to put up motion sensor cameras in a select few places up on the shore and in the water...

absinthegreen329

Jan 7 2005, 05:01 AM

If you look really close it (the picture)kind of looks like a goat...is that just me? I am not by any means saying that it is, just saying that it looks like it.

Devilwolf

Jan 7 2005, 05:04 AM

sort of, maybe its caddy

Canadian Rottweiler

Jan 7 2005, 07:04 AM

QUOTE(Cobalt Demon @ Jan 6 2005, 09:42 AM)

BRILLITANT IDEA CR! We all should set you up as a chairman for Nessie searching group so you can ruin the enviroment for something that PROBABLY doesn't even exist.
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Haha,you think you can annoy me

Well,obviously you have no idea what a crittercam is.They pose no threat to the environment,and yes,seals do live in the Loch.Here's a crittercam site(discovery)...Crittercam

Jesus_Freak

Jan 8 2005, 12:15 AM

looks like a rock to me...