Here's a riddle for you to solve what's the answer??
It's greater than God.
More evil than the devil.
The poor have it.
The rich need it.
If you eat it, you will die.
What is it?
Loonboy
Apr 6 2003, 12:04 PM
I know the answer, but I won't spoil it for everyone else...
Ronin6th
Apr 6 2003, 02:34 PM
I know the answer too...and it is...
...haha...won't tell it!
EMIN3MSGURL217
Apr 6 2003, 04:42 PM
Oh I know it...and I wont say it either!!
Phantom
Apr 6 2003, 06:06 PM
OK then... I'll spoil it....
It's.... well... nothing really...
Ronin6th
Apr 6 2003, 06:15 PM
Yep...nothing!
Yep LB, Phantom and Ronin6th you got it the answer is :-
NOTHING
Mystify
Apr 12 2003, 06:06 PM
A new one....
Three friends check into a motel for the night and the clerk tells them the bill is $30, payable in advance. So, they each pay the clerk $10 and go to their room. A few minutes later, the clerk realizes he has made an error and overcharged the trio by $5. He asks the bellhop to return $5 to the 3 friends who had just checked in. The bellhop sees this as an opportunity to make $2 as he reasons that the three friends would have a tough time dividing $5 evenly among them; so he decides to tell them that the clerk made a mistake of only $3, giving a dollar back to each of the friends. He pockets the leftover $2 and goes home for the day! Now, each of the three friends gets a dollar back, thus they each paid $9 for the room which is a total of $27 for the night. We know the bellhop pocketed $2 and adding that to the $27, you get $29, not $30 which was originally spent. Where did the other dollar go????
Phantom
Apr 13 2003, 01:33 PM
I'm guessing that dollar went
here.
schadeaux
Apr 13 2003, 02:45 PM
Ahhh... The staying power of a good riddle...
Here's one:
Brothers and sisters have I none,
But that man's father is my father's son.
Who is "that man?"
Phantom
Apr 13 2003, 03:07 PM
"That man" is his son...
Am I right?
Phantom
Apr 13 2003, 03:12 PM
How's this one:
Which common English word is most often pronounced incorrectly?
Halo_Jones
Apr 13 2003, 03:33 PM
Ummm Well I have trouble saying..... Thought and three
and anything else that starts with... Th
schadeaux
Apr 13 2003, 05:39 PM
No, Phantom, "that man" is not his son.
As for English, which English are we talking about?
Phantom
Apr 13 2003, 05:47 PM
Could be his son, here's the proof:
Let's picture three men:
Little Davie (the kid)
Hubert (Davie's father), and
George (Hubert's father, Davies Granddad)
Hubert is pointing at Little Davie, stating that "that man's father" (meaning himself, Hubert) is "my father's (being George's) son" (again meaning himself, Hubert).
Therefore "that man" is in fact Davie, cannot fight logic.

(In fact, if it weren't for the phrase "Brothers and sisters have I none" it could have been his nephew too).
| QUOTE |
| As for English, which English are we talking about? |
Any English really, if you have to ask, you're missing the point and sure as heck don't know the answer...
schadeaux
Apr 13 2003, 06:25 PM
Touchy, touchy, Phantom! The first line is there, and it's still not his son.
Phantom
Apr 14 2003, 07:57 AM
| QUOTE |
| Touchy, touchy, Phantom! |
Didn't mean to sound agressive before- it's probably because I'm Dutch (and my English not being too good) that it sounded a little harsh.
| QUOTE |
| The first line is there, and it's still not his son. |
Prove me wrong
Kismit
Apr 14 2003, 09:09 AM
Phantom is the word Knife I have reall trouble with that one , or maybe Millenium my husband and his mother and his sister can't say that one .
schadeaux
Apr 14 2003, 02:45 PM
Sorry, Phantom. It was an old riddle on of my psych councellors hung over us for about a month. Her clue was, "Think INSIDE the box."
Words, words, words... Ever since the Three Stooges I have never been able to pronounce wersh... worster... wierster... wurshtishishtishire! But that's not an English word, is it??
Homer
Apr 14 2003, 03:42 PM
I’m with Phantom on this.
I could only come up that man being his son also
Loonboy
Apr 14 2003, 03:51 PM
I agree with Phantom and Homer, the man speaking is the middle of three
generations. He is pointing to his own son and refering to himself.
Unless there's some kind of weird incest thing going on. Let's not get into that...
Space Moose
Apr 14 2003, 04:54 PM
Does "that man" catch himself in one of those loops where he is his own grandpa?
schadeaux
Apr 14 2003, 04:56 PM
OK, ok, I give. Not so good a riddle. Context: psych class, subjectivity and objectivity.
The man is talking to himself in the mirror.
Homer
Apr 14 2003, 05:09 PM
schadeaux,
I think Phantom had the only possible correct answer, as your answer doesn't work.
Halo_Jones
Apr 14 2003, 05:31 PM
HA! Homer your wrong!!!
If he's looking in a mirror, points to himself then he is, his fathers son!!!!
Brothers and sisters have I none,
But that man's(<Him in mirror) father (<his father) is my father's son.(<him)
He! He! He! Nah Nah Nah Nah NAHHHHHH!!!!
Homer
Apr 14 2003, 05:42 PM
By your understanding of it Halo, LB was right and there is some weird incest going on. Because the way you and schadeaux put it, that man and his father are the same.
That man’s father<the father of the man looking in mirror> is my fathers son<himself>
So he would have to be his own father, by your understanding Halo.
Phantom
Apr 14 2003, 05:46 PM
Fully agreeing with Homer here... obviously...
By the way - anyone knows the answer to my riddle yet?
Haven't read the correct answer so far...
Space Moose
Apr 14 2003, 05:57 PM
Phantom, your riddle is quite subjective. It is not clear if the answer is a word that is often mispronounced or one that is incredibly difficult to pronounce.
I would doubt that there could be an answer that is not higly contested, if there even was one at all.
Phantom
Apr 14 2003, 05:57 PM
Space Moose - Oh there is one - and it cannot be contested , I assure you.
Space Moose
Apr 14 2003, 06:01 PM
Since there is no other information that can be offered, the only answer that fits the criteria of that question would be "incorrectly".
Loonboy
Apr 14 2003, 06:02 PM
Homer is quite correct, the mirror explanation does not work. Hang your head
in shame schadeaux.
I don't know the answer to your riddle, Phantom, but I had a manager once,
a long time ago who couldn't say Annie Lennox...
Go figure.
dAz
Apr 14 2003, 06:14 PM
| QUOTE (schadeaux @ Apr 13 2003, 03:45 PM) |
Ahhh... The staying power of a good riddle...
Here's one:
Brothers and sisters have I none, But that man's father is my father's son.
Who is "that man?" |
This one makes perfect sense to me.
Brothers & Sisters have I none
()
But that mans (me looking at myslef) fathers (my father) is my father's son (me)
Perfect logic.
dAz
Homer
Apr 14 2003, 06:15 PM
| QUOTE (Loonboy @ Apr 14 2003, 01:02 PM) |
| Homer is quite correct, the mirror explanation does not work. |
I’m just surprised with Halo,
Did she forget who I am?
dAz
Apr 14 2003, 06:20 PM
| QUOTE (Phantom @ Apr 13 2003, 06:47 PM) |
| Hubert is pointing at Little Davie, stating that "that man's father" (meaning himself, Hubert) is "my father's (being George's) son" (again meaning himself, Hubert). |
If he was pointing at Little Davie then saying that he is "my fathers son" that would make Little Davie his brother, which wouldn't work.
dAz
Phantom
Apr 14 2003, 06:21 PM
Daz, look at it this way, mathematically, if you will:
Let's picture you're the speaker, so you would be talking about yourself, in your theory.
That man = Daz
That man's father = my father's son
Daz's father = Daz' father's son
Father = father's sonDoes not equal.
(I suck at math but I know this is right).

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If he was pointing at Little Davie then saying that he is "my fathers son" that would make Little Davie his brother, which wouldn't work.
|
He does not point at little Davie saying that he is "my father's son". He says that "that man's father" (so Davies father, not Davie) is "my father's son".
Guest
Apr 14 2003, 06:27 PM
You got it right since the beginning of this Phantom
Phantom is cool
Space Moose
Apr 14 2003, 06:27 PM
Phantom, that doesn't add up because you did it wrong.
If dAz = "that man", he will also equal "my father's son" because they are the same person.
GIVEN
dAz = that man; AND
dAz = my father's son
THEREFORE
dAz's father is dAz's father's son
Phantom
Apr 14 2003, 06:28 PM
Thanks guest (I've learned that the guest is Homer now) , much appreciated...
| QUOTE |
THEREFORE dAz's father is dAz's father's son |
Spacemoose - and your point being?
Homer
Apr 14 2003, 06:28 PM
You got it right since the beginning of this Phantom
Phantom is cool
That guest above is me obviously
dAz
Apr 14 2003, 06:29 PM
Right
dAz = Darren
dAz's dad = Fraser
I point or look at myself.
That mans father - (looking/pointing at myself) is Fraser (my dad).
Is my father son - (my father is fraser and I am his son).
I can't think how else to explain it
dAz
Loonboy
Apr 14 2003, 06:32 PM
Sorry Daz, but you've got it wrong ->
| QUOTE |
But that mans (me looking at myslef) fathers (my father) is my father's son (me)
|
If Daz looks at himself in a mirror, then 'that man' = Daz.
Daz's father is my father's son. (since he is speaking to himself, 'my' becomes
Daz's) -> so
Daz's father is Daz's father's son.
Daz's father cannot possibly be Daz's father's son....
(Hence, the only explanation that fits, is the 3 generations one.)
Phantom
Apr 14 2003, 06:33 PM
Daz, as much as I like you as a person - you drive me completely nuts.

Keep in mind we're trying to find "That man", not "That man's father", nor any "Father's son".
Space Moose
Apr 14 2003, 06:37 PM
I was backing you up, Phantom.
I was a little wry with my first statement there, I was just putting your comments into a more familiar mathmetical presentation. I can see how this might have caused confusion.
Phantom
Apr 14 2003, 06:38 PM
OK peops. I'm gonna give you all one more chance to answer my riddle and then I'll spoil the fun...
Another quote to hopefully let you see the light:
| QUOTE |
| Which common English word is most often pronounced incorrectly? |
| QUOTE |
| I was backing you up, Phantom. |
Ah thanks, Space Moose - Like I said, I suck at math. 
Homer
Apr 14 2003, 06:38 PM
Play nice boys
Besides, isn't there another riddle we can conquer?
btw, Phantom, I have no idea about your riddle.
dAz
Apr 14 2003, 06:39 PM
| QUOTE (Loonboy @ Apr 14 2003, 07:32 PM) |
Daz's father is Daz's father's son.
Daz's father cannot possibly be Daz's father's son....
|
But I am Daz's fathers son!!
Daz's father = Fraser
Frasers son = Daz
Loonboy
Apr 14 2003, 06:40 PM
So it wasn't Annie Lennox?
Okay, my guess is 'the' when we pronounce it 'thuh' instead of 'theee'.
I know it's wrong, but it's a stab isn't it?
Loonboy
Apr 14 2003, 06:43 PM
| QUOTE |
Daz's father is Daz's father's son.
Daz's father cannot possibly be Daz's father's son.... |
| QUOTE |
But I am Daz's fathers son!!
|
If your Dad is Fraser and you are Daz, then:
Daz's Father = Fraser
Daz's Father's Son = Daz.
Daz's father is Daz's father's son = incorrect. Since Fraser cannot be Daz. 
By the way, I like your new stained glass avatar. Cool.
dAz
Apr 14 2003, 06:45 PM
| QUOTE (Loonboy @ Apr 14 2003, 07:43 PM) |
| QUOTE | Daz's father is Daz's father's son.
Daz's father cannot possibly be Daz's father's son.... |
| QUOTE | But I am Daz's fathers son!!
|
If your Dad is Fraser and you are Daz, then:
Daz's Father = Fraser Daz's Father's Son = Daz.
Daz's father is Daz's father's son = incorrect. Since Fraser cannot be Daz.  |
Daz's father (fraser) is Daz's father's (fraser) son = verys correct.
Loonboy
Apr 14 2003, 06:47 PM
But it isn't correct.
Daz's father = Daz's father
Daz's father does not = Daz's father's son
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