Omnibus
Jan 7 2005, 03:54 PM
Does any one believe in ghosts,spirits the past? If you don't U should because they're very real... like air they seem to be wanting to tell us something because they always bother. they never leave us alone they probably watch what you do. Talk about getting ure Privacy. They're just there to scare you test you see if you don't believe. It seems like they bother when u least expect them to bother. You could tell if they're around because someone or if you have somone in ure house with u they will get very angry for no reason at all then you got to prey or do what you do i shout and curse at them but not people seems like they take of after that.
aquatus1
Jan 7 2005, 04:39 PM
I'm afraid it will take considerably more than simply your word on the matter to get me to believe. Do you have anything in the way of objective evidence, as opposed to speculation?
Omnibus
Jan 7 2005, 07:01 PM
QUOTE(aquatus1 @ Jan 7 2005, 10:39 AM)
I'm afraid it will take considerably more than simply your word on the matter to get me to believe. Do you have anything in the way of objective evidence, as opposed to speculation?
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Yeah There iz alot of evidence to ghosts and spirits you just got to connect with'em.
thank you for replying.
ABOTU
Jan 7 2005, 07:11 PM
It's not gonna convince people just because you tell them to. Not that I don't believe.
Omnibus
Jan 7 2005, 07:27 PM
QUOTE(A Believer of the Unexplained @ Jan 7 2005, 01:11 PM)
It's not gonna convince people just because you tell them to. Not that I don't believe.
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Thatz it everybody haz lost there belief all because people lie 2 much
If you do want to see some ghosts

then i'll hook U up with some ghosts and not hook u up as in go out either...
Hey I'm very seroius about this ight.
spooks
Jan 7 2005, 07:29 PM
i believe very strongly in ghosts, so do all my family, we lived in a haunted house, with a tremendous amount of paranormal activity, so any who doesnt believe in ghosts, spend a night in that house and u will after that.
Omnibus
Jan 7 2005, 07:31 PM
QUOTE(spooks @ Jan 7 2005, 01:29 PM)
i believe very strongly in ghosts, so do all my family, we lived in a haunted house, with a tremendous amount of paranormal activity, so any who doesnt believe in ghosts, spend a night in that house and u will after that.
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Yeah thankz spooks...

at least we have some one that believes serious thingz around here...
BurnSide
Jan 7 2005, 07:56 PM
Just because you say something, doesn't make it exist.
With your logic, you could tell me bacon is actually made out of cheese, and expect me to believe it.
Obviously, that's silly.
Afraid2Look
Jan 7 2005, 08:15 PM
Cheese and bacon.. I'm so hungry!! Believe me
Walken
Jan 7 2005, 08:17 PM
The main arguement for ghosts NOT exsisting is that they are simply a product of the human desire of an afterlife. Just because we all like to think theres an afterlife, however, means not that there are not ghosts.
So in short, I do beleive.
I believe in spirits/ ghosts, but Omnibus I've never encounted one who would get angry because I had someone else in my house.
Can you give us some more info on what happens to you?
Silent-Storm
Jan 7 2005, 09:02 PM
I believe there is something out there.
Great Big Sea
Jan 7 2005, 09:10 PM
I don't want to be made to believe in certain things, and I think we need more new posts and forums.
QueenoftheNight
Jan 7 2005, 10:08 PM
I believe in ghosts, but I dont think they give a sh** about us.. unless they want to make contact w/ a loved one. They are not trying to make us mad, or get scared. They have their own things to do in mind
Omnibus
Jan 10 2005, 07:09 PM
QUOTE(QueenoftheNight @ Jan 7 2005, 04:08 PM)
I believe in ghosts, but I dont think they give a sh** about us.. unless they want to make contact w/ a loved one. They are not trying to make us mad, or get scared. They have their own things to do in mind
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yes i see that all are confused or something, i'm just saying tht ghosts are real beacause they smeel like the passed o when they come around thats when one is trying to contact you are say something and the bacon/cheese dude go to wendy's

anywayz! try this someone put your face against the mirrior facing towards the mirrior real close look down you have to be by yourself to try this but when you look down just keep looking down you'll find out the rest.
Diebytheflyguy
Jan 10 2005, 08:50 PM
QUOTE(Omnibus @ Jan 7 2005, 02:27 PM)
If you do want to see some ghosts

then i'll hook U up with some ghosts and not hook u up as in go out either...
Hey I'm very seroius about this ight.
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Hook me up with some pictures you've captured of ghosts.
QUOTE(Omnibus @ Jan 10 2005, 02:09 PM)
try this someone put your face against the mirrior facing towards the mirrior real close look down you have to be by yourself to try this but when you look down just keep looking down you'll find out the rest.

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Ya, I see myself...
Omnibus
Jan 11 2005, 03:03 PM
QUOTE(Diebytheflyguy @ Jan 10 2005, 02:50 PM)
QUOTE(Omnibus @ Jan 7 2005, 02:27 PM)
If you do want to see some ghosts

then i'll hook U up with some ghosts and not hook u up as in go out either...
Hey I'm very seroius about this ight.
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Hook me up with some pictures you've captured of ghosts.
QUOTE(Omnibus @ Jan 10 2005, 02:09 PM)
try this someone put your face against the mirrior facing towards the mirrior real close look down you have to be by yourself to try this but when you look down just keep looking down you'll find out the rest.

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Ya, I see myself...

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No you'll see someone run by in the mirrior...you probably didn't look for a long time.... Owe Well!
markwasp
Jan 11 2005, 03:36 PM
I strongly believe in 'ghosts' as i was haunted for years and saw and felt many strange things. The main things i saw was an old woman, a dog and things that moved by them selves! My children had their bedding thrown off them in the night! things were put in the oven and the oven turned on. Voices and banging were heard constantly. People who enterd our house saw, felt and heard things.
This happend to us for years, we saw a local perist, who evenchally came round and blessed our house, and the weird stuff stopped (as strangs as that may sound).
RaginCajun
Jan 12 2005, 04:30 AM
i do. i have know many people that have said they have seen things...they don;t lie...other than that, i have nothing else to go by...
Falco Rex
Jan 12 2005, 10:46 AM
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You probably didn't look for a long time.
If you look at anything long enough you'll see strange movement or shifting shapes. It's called eye strain. How long it takes to happen depends entirely on how good your eyes are. It's far from proof of life after death..
Putte
Jan 12 2005, 11:10 AM
Omnibus, what are you on, really?
1. Do you think you stating that ghosts exist will change the opinion of everyone, without any form of solid evidence?
2. Do you have imaginary friends?
3. Do you usually stand in front of the mirror, looking at yourself?
I have believed in ghosts, but your post made me doubt them, more than believe more.
Jim_PM_Gerrity
Jan 12 2005, 10:30 PM
The current, most compelling footage of the existance of ghosts (according to some), can be found at
http://www.the-atlantic-paranormal-society...untershome.html (a link provided by Unexplained Mysteries Dot Com)
Check out Episode 105 - Eastern State Penitentiary, and the WMV files attached to that story. It depicts a figure approaching the camera, and then away in a most inhuman movement. I'm not saying that this is in fact a ghost, or that it isn't (in my experience, I believe in ghosts, but I'm certainly not putting my faith into someone else's home movies), but it's worth a look, regardless (and read the explaination regarding the footage, it's worth it, too).
Enjoy, everyone.
Sanidia Vortez
Jan 13 2005, 06:20 PM
i believe in ghosts because after you die that cannot be the end.. well to me that is
but what if you are inrtuding on their land ? ? i think that is why they attack people and other stuff, but some ghosts are friendly like they are lost and all they need us to do is help them get to where ever they are going
Omnibus
Jan 13 2005, 06:33 PM
QUOTE(Putte @ Jan 12 2005, 05:10 AM)
Omnibus, what are you on, really?
1. Do you think you stating that ghosts exist will change the opinion of everyone, without any form of solid evidence?
2. Do you have imaginary friends?
3. Do you usually stand in front of the mirror, looking at yourself?
I have believed in ghosts, but your post made me doubt them, more than believe more.
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No I can;t say imaginary friends because i would be skitso franik! Ha....
The other i don't look at myself i've just seen more than you... so work you're issues somewhere else kid...
and no there are ghosts some people probably don't believe but hey! thats life.
I'm more experienced
not any better than you equal.
Angel_of_Pain
Jan 13 2005, 07:07 PM
I can say that I believe...in spirits I mean. But there are people who say it's all in your head...but how can they say something like that with so much proof??? The have audio, video, and photo of spirits, ghosts and other strange things. So people say that it's all a malfunction of the equipment. But how can it all be a malfunction when so many different people pick these things up??? Oh yea that right!! It's all just coincedence!!! Yea right, bud!! If you have seen what I've seen, and so many people that I know, and heard what we've heard...you'd believe...
... ... *sigh* ... ... sorry about the completely random ranting...
!~*~!Angel of Pain!~*~!
Lord_Kazius
Jan 13 2005, 07:51 PM
being a ghost myself i can honestly say that i do not believe in ghosts.
Omnibus
Jan 13 2005, 10:11 PM
QUOTE(Lord_Kazius @ Jan 13 2005, 01:51 PM)
being a ghost myself i can honestly say that i do not believe in ghosts.
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Uhh... Yeah Ure a ghost alright heh.. not laughing!
Jim_PM_Gerrity
Jan 13 2005, 10:32 PM
QUOTE(Omnibus @ Jan 13 2005, 05:11 PM)
QUOTE(Lord_Kazius @ Jan 13 2005, 01:51 PM)
being a ghost myself i can honestly say that i do not believe in ghosts.
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Uhh... Yeah Ure a ghost alright heh.. not laughing!

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Why are you so caustic, Omnibus?
Maybe you'd be taken more seriously if you weren't so, in a word, negative. Then again, I can see where you're coming from with
some of your retorts. Lord Kazius was making a joke (more than likely), so I can't say your response to that was really valid, but then again, Putte was pretty strong with suggesting you're on drugs, stare at yourself, and have imaginary friends (not starting a fight at all, Putte, I'm just trying to understand where Omnibus is coming from). It's quite perplexing.
Take this for what you deem it's worth. I'm not against you, nor am I picking on you, but I don't think these people are deliberately getting on your nerves, either.
Putte
Jan 13 2005, 10:54 PM
QUOTE(Omnibus @ Jan 13 2005, 07:33 PM)
No I can;t say imaginary friends because i would be skitso franik! Ha....
The other i don't look at myself i've just seen more than you... so work you're issues somewhere else kid...
and no there are ghosts some people probably don't believe but hey! thats life.
I'm more experienced
not any better than you equal.

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Ok, tell me. WHAT makes you so much more experienced than me? How can you even know exactly how much experience I have with anything? You don't know nothing about me, still you're more experienced?
Edit: And Jim, no offence. I'm pretty rude at times, nothing to be taken personally
Jim_PM_Gerrity
Jan 13 2005, 11:07 PM
QUOTE(Putte @ Jan 13 2005, 05:54 PM)
QUOTE(Omnibus @ Jan 13 2005, 07:33 PM)
No I can;t say imaginary friends because i would be skitso franik! Ha....
The other i don't look at myself i've just seen more than you... so work you're issues somewhere else kid...
and no there are ghosts some people probably don't believe but hey! thats life.
I'm more experienced
not any better than you equal.

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Ok, tell me. WHAT makes you so much more experienced than me? How can you even know exactly how much experience I have with anything? You don't know nothing about me, still you're more experienced?
Edit: And Jim, no offence. I'm pretty rude at times, nothing to be taken personally

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No worries, Putte. Trying to figure out where Omnibus is coming from; where everyone's coming from on the topic, actually. Mind shedding some light on any of your experiences? I'd be interested in hearing what everyone here's actually seen.
Scorpius
Jan 13 2005, 11:30 PM
If you actually take the time and listen to certain people's encounters and the differences between logical explanations as opposed to extraordinary ones than it'll really change your view on the whole matter.
Coast to coast AM is really an interesting program on the radio which lets listeners comment and tell their stories of ghostly and angelic encounters.
Now what sort of explanations can you give them in their sort of experiences. It's like deciding to walk in the park when a mugger decides to steal your wallet. You have no defensive equipment to protect yourself. Just as with a paranormal experience you weren't prepared for. There are hundreds of cases such as these, some not documented and others that are. Hell, I'm not a well-trained researcher in these sort of matters, but it really isn't hard to look out for these "signs".
There are things the general public cannot explain as of this moment, but if you broaden your scope of view of reality and the things that go "bump in the night" you'll realize something more...
Omnibus
Jan 14 2005, 03:13 PM
QUOTE(Blue-Scorpion @ Jan 13 2005, 05:30 PM)
If you actually take the time and listen to certain people's encounters and the differences between logical explanations as opposed to extraordinary ones than it'll really change your view on the whole matter.
Coast to coast AM is really an interesting program on the radio which lets listeners comment and tell their stories of ghostly and angelic encounters.
Now what sort of explanations can you give them in their sort of experiences. It's like deciding to walk in the park when a mugger decides to steal your wallet. You have no defensive equipment to protect yourself. Just as with a paranormal experience you weren't prepared for. There are hundreds of cases such as these, some not documented and others that are. Hell, I'm not a well-trained researcher in these sort of matters, but it really isn't hard to look out for these "signs".
There are things the general public cannot explain as of this moment, but if you broaden your scope of view of reality and the things that go "bump in the night" you'll realize something more...
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Yeah!... you do have a point there... that what i was looking for a good explanation. Although my post was true!...right on man good man good man...
gremlin
Jan 14 2005, 10:54 PM
As I understand it, ghosts are the physical manifestation of someone who has died in tragic circumstances... or who has died after many years of suffering from some awful grief and misery that was never resolved or reconciled while the person was still alive.
For instance - the ghost or apparition of a Mafia murder victim who has been buried in concrete at a new construction site - may in later years occasionally be seen by the office workers in that building to be gliding along the corridors looking sad and woeful that his murder had never been discovered, and that he had only been registered as a 'Missing Person'.
I've never seen a ghost, but I have been in places where I have suddenly felt an overpowering sense of prickly fear - and become convinced that a malevolent presence was watching me with great interest from another dimension close by. In all of my years this has happened only three or four times... a couple of times in broad daylight.
Interestingly, although I would suddely feel malevolent eyes upon me - I somehow knew it was not capable of traversing the gap between us to do me any physical harm. But the overpowering and chilling fear was always enough in itself to make me leave that place of dark forboding and eerie mystery.
GothDemon
Jan 15 2005, 05:45 AM
I believe. I once lived in a haunted house ... Some say a gate way to hell...Somehting you have to see for yourself to truley belive......
ROGER
Jan 15 2005, 11:57 PM
I would like to say that all ghosts are not the result of death bye violence. Though I have not seen one, my wife, and sons have, usually past family members. My dead Father in law stayed around until my Mother in law past on(breast cancer). after a few months stay they seem to have moved on. No sightings in a long time now.
Of course my wife and I are in our 50s so maybe they made room for us.
Hope not. Still have things to do.
snuffypuffer
Jan 16 2005, 02:50 AM
I don't really believe in ghosts, but I'd like to see one sometime. Just so I can find out what they are.
gremlin
Jan 17 2005, 12:12 AM
I don't know if this comes under 'ghosts' exactly - but one of the most chilling things I have ever witnessed was something shown on a television news report - and happened here in Australia about 30 years ago.
A family bought a small weatherboard cottage in a suburb on the outskirts of Sydney... and then, several weeks later - quite suddenly - this very loud, insistent, aggressive pounding and banging sound began to be heard in one of the walls.
The television news teams stuck with this story for about a fortnight - until the loud hammering sound stopped as abruptly as it had begun.
During this time they had TV cameras set up inside and outside of the home... with microphones everywhere. And each night the news service would treat us to a couple of minutes or so of this mysterious banging.
It was never a continuous noise... it was always like someone angrily banging on the wall - and then pausing for a minute or so - and then hammering away again as though to call out someone living in the house.
From my observation of the camera crews etc ... they looked as mystified as anyone... and a bit scared. I have no doubt whatsoever that it was genuine - and not some sort of stunt.
Poltergeist... was that what it was... ?
psycho skeptic
Jan 17 2005, 05:25 AM
Hmm...I'd say I have a rather twisted believe in ghosts but I'd say that they aren't the spirits of the dearly departed. (I think they have a more sinister role in the spirit world)
Loco Chupacabra
Jan 17 2005, 11:11 PM
Theres this house in SanDiego that was on sale really really cheap, so many people knew it was too good to be true, my brother was going to buy it and wanted to test it for a 2 days, apparently the house was haunted with a ghost that didn't want anyone to live in there. Things would fall, doors would start banging, almost everytime you put somthing down and come back it would be on the floor or under the bed, and not to mention the house was realli realli cold, even the heater wouldn't warm the house up enough, got out of the house and didn't buy it. Anyone who doesn't believe in ghost are the fat americans or whatever sitting at home without investigating anything.
Paulo
Jan 18 2005, 11:43 AM
Heya,
eversince when I was small...Ive seen Ghost and other earthly elementals, dwarfs, nature spirits and Lower elementals which we call as Devils...
Yes I believe in them...
they were first created by God, before us human beings...
gremlin
Jan 19 2005, 04:25 AM
Thanks for that Paulo. Now I'm convinced.
Diebytheflyguy
Jan 19 2005, 07:31 PM
QUOTE(Paulo @ Jan 18 2005, 06:43 AM)
Heya,
eversince when I was small...Ive seen Ghost and other earthly elementals, dwarfs, nature spirits and Lower elementals which we call as Devils...
Yes I believe in them...
they were first created by God, before us human beings...
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You see dwarfs? Me too!
A while ago I was searching some topics on this forum, and all of a sudden on a post I saw a dirty ghost gnome! I kept on seeing him for a while until one day, it disappeared!
gremlin
Feb 17 2005, 03:34 AM
Hey Paolo? Are you still there... ? I saw a few spirits as I passed by the bottle shop the other day... And I swear I saw a gnome at the bottom of Aunt Betty's garden last weekend... And I see black cats crossing my path all the time.
Spikester2488
Feb 17 2005, 08:52 AM
I believe in ghosts because I have seen one and experienced a haunting a few years ago. I wish I had attempted to get evidence of what I have experienced before I moved. However I am optimistic to someday find convincing evidence that will make all skeptics believe in Ghosts because I know they are real and so do a few members of my family.
DoubtingThomas
Feb 18 2005, 02:34 PM
Just a question:
I get this "when you've seen one, then you'll believe" attitude a lot. Is this really true? Do people simply write off things which they deem inexplicable as proof of ghostly presences?
I live in a brand new house, built on empty land. It's not haunted, but it sure seems that way, due to some shoddy construction (

). Creaks, puffs of air, cold spots, all manner of nocturnal and diurnal sounds. Enough that when I was little, I was convinced in the existance of ghosts. As I grew older, I realized that there were earthly explanations for all the 'bumps in then night' that I experienced. Still creeps me out, but I don't go around screaming 'I'm being haunted!'
I do know some people who have had strange experiences or live in a place where inexplicable things happen (best friends GF lives in a 'haunted' residence) but I know a lot more people who are just throwing their hat in with the supernatural lot to seem cool, because they want to claim that they are 'experienced with it', or to cover up their own fears of the finality of death.
Omnibus
Feb 18 2005, 03:58 PM
QUOTE(DoubtingThomas @ Feb 18 2005, 08:34 AM)
Just a question:
I get this "when you've seen one, then you'll believe" attitude a lot. Is this really true? Do people simply write off things which they deem inexplicable as proof of ghostly presences?
I live in a brand new house, built on empty land. It's not haunted, but it sure seems that way, due to some shoddy construction (

). Creaks, puffs of air, cold spots, all manner of nocturnal and diurnal sounds. Enough that when I was little, I was convinced in the existance of ghosts. As I grew older, I realized that there were earthly explanations for all the 'bumps in then night' that I experienced. Still creeps me out, but I don't go around screaming 'I'm being haunted!'
I do know some people who have had strange experiences or live in a place where inexplicable things happen (best friends GF lives in a 'haunted' residence) but I know a lot more people who are just throwing their hat in with the supernatural lot to seem cool, because they want to claim that they are 'experienced with it', or to cover up their own fears of the finality of death.
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Hey i'm not scared of death even though it was that you were refering to in some sort of reverse psychology your using on me to either critisize me of mty knowledge about what has happened supposed to be helping me not exacerbate things, makes me guilty for something i didn't do just don't critisize me.
nightcat
Feb 19 2005, 03:55 AM
I saw a ghost once therefore I believe in ghosts. And I know it wasn't my imagination because I simply just don't imagine things.
Besides if ghosts didn't exist then how is it there are so many reports of them and stories? Things that don't have substance simply don't continue on in such a big fashion. So there's got to be some truth to this whole thing.
nightcat
Feb 19 2005, 04:04 AM
QUOTE(Blue-Scorpion @ Jan 13 2005, 06:30 PM)
Coast to coast AM is really an interesting program on the radio which lets listeners comment and tell their stories of ghostly and angelic encounters.
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I'm a HUGE Coast fan myself!
cutycub
Feb 19 2005, 04:09 AM
We may know someday.... lol
Azrael
Feb 25 2005, 08:25 PM
I certainly believe in ghosts, having lived in a haunted cottage in the past and actually seen the ghost in question...that and the strange coldness of the master bedroom was enough to convince me, not that it was a malevolent haunting, it was benign and the whole house had a great feeling of peace and comfort...clearly the ghost was not evil.
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