come on, ken, PLEASE at least try to read other peoples posts, you put us through like 5 pages of copy, paste bull and then u dont even read our 3 lines, knowing we are right....
No evil man nor a rich man will ever enter the gates of heaven, only through CHRIST will we enter heaven, saddam doesnt believe in CHRIST, neither does Bin Laden. so, at least use ur brain next time u try to say they will... PLUS, the only way we are forgiven is if we ASK for forgiveness, jesus said
Luke 3
3. And he came into all the country about Jordan, preaching the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins;
Luke 5
32. I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
Luke 15
7. I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance
dont you see? we are being told to repent of our sins and ask for fogiveness.

It doesnt seem like there is anything anyone can say to get to Ken... I have tried to be nice and understanding, but he wouldn't have any of that...
I don't like saying "I give up", but when it comes to him its kinda like kicking a dead mule...

LBD

i know exactly what u mean, but i will never give up, jesus wouldnt give up on me, and i wont give up on any lost person... i will do all i can to at least plant the seed of Gods word in their heart. God will do the rest.

Amen

Did you ever think that maybe your God gave up on ken?

doubtful, God dont give up on anyone, people choose not to listen, but he dont give up.

You are not working with me.

well, im not going to say God gave up on him, thats going against what i believe. but i do think that ken just writes his own rules, cause he sure aint listening to God.. God could yell at him and he wouldnt know it. jk

Kirkido.

It is not the length of the Post, But the contents that matters. God inspired over 1700 Chapters, I wonder why He kept it so short? I am sure He had a lot more to say. And I am also sure many would like to know a lot more which He can tell us.


Zandore is correct to a point, a lot of it is Cut and paste so the references from the Scriptures do not have to be looked up.

Dark Gray.

Cute, make a comment then say your not going to argue about it after you said it was Absurd. And the other verses Scarlet1 listed was undisputable.

You inputted your two cents, You have Change coming. Kind of like, If you can’t take it, Don’t dish it out.

Daniel 9:24 is undisputable. That is one of the Jots and Tittles Jesus had to Fulfill, Show where Jesus said He would fulfill every jot and tittle the Disciples or Paul spoke? The False Christs were to do signs and wonders, Guess who? Can you show anyone other then the Disciples and Paul who did signs and wonders? Maybe their DOCTRINE was FALSE. (I did not place a question mark at the end, for there is NO Question about it.)

Behold the Lamb of God which TAKETH AWAY the sin of the World. Not believers, But the World. Where does that leave the message the Disciples and Paul spoke?

Does not John 3:16 start “For God so loved the WORLD?”

JOHN? You remember HIM, He also wrote first John, Second John, and Third John.

(1JOHN 2:15) Love not the world, neither the things that are in the
world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. (KJV)

For God so loved the World, But don’t be like God and love the world.

The Book of Revelation is another matter, there He was told what to write.

And I know my argument is WEEK. And God said it shall be a WEEK Argument. For if they could see what I did, they would not argue.

(ISAIAH 30:26) Moreover the light of the moon shall be as the light
of the sun, and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold, as the
light of seven days, in the day that the Lord bindeth up the breach
of his people, and healeth the stroke of their wound. (KJV)

The day God binds up the breach of His people is as a WEEK, Guess which is the only day that can be? It is a WEEK Argument, But it is with God, I just got to carry the message.


Zandore

I do take HEED:

(2PETER 1:19) We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto
ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a
dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your
hearts: (KJV)

“Ye do well that ye take HEED.” Peter did not list the verse, it is Isaiah 14:12. Day Star, Bright and Morning Star, Lucifer, all looking a Jesus the light of the World in a very dark place called Hell.

Jesus spoke in Parables, So I will list this verse the way it is meant to be:

(JOHN 3:20) For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither
cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. (KJV)

Paraphrase: For every one that doeth evil hateth Jesus, Neither cometh to Jesus, Lest his deeds should be reproved.


Me I Am,

God has you, always did, always will. You do not need to believe to get to heaven. God concluded all in unbelief.

God did not inspire a History book, He wrote the book first, then the History came and showed He is God. Only God could inspire over 40 prophets to write about one day in time to come which would fulfill hundreds of prophecies, Every one written. The Old Testament is a Prehistory Book.

God does not want you to believe His is OUT THERE, He wants you to know He is WITHIN all of us.

It is like asking God to “Heal me.”, We are all of the Body of Christ, so it is part of Christ we want healed. So try a different approach:

(LUKE 4:23) And he said unto them, Ye will surely say unto me this
proverb, Physician, heal thyself: whatsoever we have heard done in
Capernaum, do also here in thy country. (KJV)

Always a parable, Jesus healed others in Capernaum, Heal in this country or within this Body.

If God spoke to everyone, It would turn into the Week before Christmas, as the WANT lists are poured out. “That bully hit me God, Kill HIM.” God did not intend on becoming a genie in a Lamp. He sent the Lamp to show, He loves us.

God has spoken to us all, Through Christ. If you have seen Jesus, You have seen the Father. Which is how God is.


Lover of God.

“Knowing we are right.”? If that WE is so sure WE is RIGHT, why do WE need confirmation?

I see the repentance, I know it is preached that it has to be done for salvation, At one time I believed it myself, But now I KNOW it is just a shadow. Naturally God wants us to be sorry for the things we do wrong, and would like us to change. But our unwillingness to change does not nullify Golgotha. It does not Nullify Grace, It does not nullify the Love of God towards mankind.

For by Grace are we saved, Through Faith, and that not of ourselves, it is a GIFT of God. And the GIFTS and Callings of God are WITHOUT Repentance.

The problem is, You have an INDIFFERENT God. Indifferent to if we are saved, or lost for eternity. Like it is people’s choices, they can go to heaven or hell. If I see a car start to burn, will I not stop one I love from getting into it? You have a God who only loves them who loves Him.

Like the Disciples who wanted to destroy the town that would not receive Jesus. Jesus told them something, But they did not hear too well, As they went on to preach that Jesus will Destroy those who reject Him.

(LUKE 9:53) And they did not receive him, because his face was as
though he would go to Jerusalem. (KJV)
(LUKE 9:54) And when his disciples James and John saw this, they
said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from
heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did? (KJV)
(LUKE 9:55) But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not
what manner of spirit ye are of. (KJV)
(LUKE 9:56) For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives,
but to save them. And they went to another village. (KJV)

Hmmm? Let me see?? If I repent, I am telling God, Jesus was not sufficient, Jesus did not take away the sin of the wold, I have to do this (I can brag about it later.)

NAW. I will trust God. Jesus took away sin. Over and done. Jesus rendered to man His righteousness in Job 33:26. No problem, Hell ended the third day. I can do as I wish, I can kill others, Rob banks, love whom ever I want, Hate who ever I want. This way sounds great. This is the EASY path.

Now with nothing to gain, as all have the righteousness of Christ, and nothing to lose as Jesus paid it all, You want a job serving God for nothing? Long Hours, little appreciation, persecutions, Doing God’s will, not your own. Sounds terrible. But I like terrible jobs.


Lightbeyondthedark.

The Object is not to TRY to be nice, but to be nice by nature.

Zandore,

God knows He can give up on me any time He wants, But I will not give up on Him. God can get as mean as He wants, I will never forsake Him. Gee, That sounds like how God feels about you.


Lover of God.

God does not yell at people, He speaks loud and FIRM.

Ken

ken has officialy been brainwashed...

Oh really, is it the contents that matter? How is it the content of your post misspell my nickname?
I believe you should question other aspects of your post, because if you're not looking at how nicknames are rightfully spelt, more than likely you're not even looking at participants' of this thread's posts.

Even then he sometimes gets it wrong! Makes you wonder if he reads the Bible even. Your twisted and perverted god not mine.Brainwashed by his own self!

zandore, just please dont call God perverted or twisted, unfortunately, his God is the christian God, and i am christian... but
KEN, I UNDERSTAND U COPY/PASTE, TO MAKE IT EASIER, SO U PROBABLY DONT READ THE SCRIPTURE UR COPY/PASTING, NEXT TIME, TRY TO READ IT FIRST.... JUST A THOUGHT... OH YEAH, AND STOP TAKING IT OUT OF CONTEXT.... COME ON, DUDE, U CANT TWIST GOD'S WORDS AROUND....

LOG I have shown your God the utmost respect and will continue to do so because of what it stands for and the beliefs of others. But what ken preaches is not Christianity. He claims it is but it is not. See you even say so.
A deal?

I just want you to know Free, that the whole ordeal when you were a child was meant to happen. Ya, it was pretty shitty, but think of who you have become. Now you are strong and have a set of beliefs (whatever those are that keep you going) that let you know right and wrong, I'm sure you have a good judgement of character. I know you are strong. Anyone who goes through that has to turn out more than decent. As for God not answering your prayers for the abuse and cruelty to cease. . . even as a woman who believes that the creator(s) of the universe have promised to provide for us all in our needs, the best thing we can do is to HELP OURSELVES. We should not rest our lives and hopes, dreams and fears solely in the invisible hands of something we cannot see. How do we know those hands will be there? We don't. That's Faith. Not just Faith in the unknown, but Faith in yourself. If you are not strong enough to handle the misdeeds that life throws in your face, how can you live? How can you ever trust or love? If you expect a miracle, Free, be the miracle.
Blessed Be.

Hmmm, I wonder how much 'global space' Ken has used up with his posts....

*stands back and awaits a six page reply...*

Hoagy

I am afraid to find out!

*laughs her head off*

Have you tried to read any of his post?

That's enough on those lines please. We don't need entire discussions on the mannor other people post.

My bad, I'm sorry

OK.

Whoa.

Officially Brainwashed? Could be. Ever hear of Cleanliness is next to Godliness. Not Scriptural, But I think Mothers dreamed that up.

Sometimes a Good Brainwashing helps a lot. Depends on what was in the Brain before cleaning.
And what the Brain contained after cleaning.


Kerkido.

I see the nickname spelled wrong, and ask what in the world is the word “SPELT”? I guess we both fell a little short in Spelling.

God said to “Seek ye first the Kingdom of God, Spelling comes later.

Zandore,

If “as you say” I get a Verse in Scripture wrong, that I pasted, Tell me the Book, Chapter, and verse. Cut and paste works quite well. It is not cut, change and paste.

God said all souls are His. You didn’t know God holds the Title to you?

Brainwashed by my own self? That is called “Cleaning up my act.” Want to borrow a little Spiritual soap?

We all as Sheep have gone astray:

(SOLOMON 4:2) Thy teeth are like a flock of sheep that are even
shorn, which came up from the washing; whereof every one bear
twins, and none is barren among them. (KJV)

Washed in the Blood of the Lamb, that is.


Lover of God.

I reference the concepts, If you see them as out of context, Show it Scripturally.

Hoagy.

I seem to remember seeing under Global space as unlimited. It is like Eternity, I can use up all the days I want, I am not one day shorter for it. I can use up ten thousand years, and still have just as much life to live as before I used them up.


That means we will see each other in heaven many, many times. I’ll see you at the Bible study.


Amina.

It might be a good idea to send that reply to Freespyryt by E-mail or personal message, I have not seen her on here too much lately. She might not be reading this thread anymore.

I seem to remember others telling her that, And she did not like to hear it.

Ken

Um no, if you fall you fall by yourself.
Get yourself back into gear, spelt is just as valid as spelled, Oxford.
To seek the Kingdom of God, is to seek the study of the Bible, lol oh how funny it would be if God was spelt Dog.

Hmmm... Not necessarily...

LBD

Kerkido.

Try using “SPELT” that in English class.

Seeking the Kingdom of God is not to seek the study of the Bible. Nor is the object to read the Bible. But Seeking the Person of God. And to understand what He is showing us in Scriptures.

Would then a dog be spelled G-O-D? Names do not mean too much, A rose by any other name is still a rose. It is just something used to identify what we are referring to.

Sometimes Names are not what they appear. Like the name “NONE” which applies to Jesus, NONE showeth, NONE declareth, When I called, NONE did answer, There is NONE beside Me, NONE can by any means redeem His brother of Give a ransom for him.

The God goes and gives NONE a Surname. “NONE ELSE”

(DEUTERONOMY 4:35) Unto thee it was shewed, that thou mightest know
that the Lord he is God; there is none else beside him. (KJV)

(DEUTERONOMY 4:39) Know therefore this day, and consider it in
thine heart, that the Lord he is God in heaven above, and upon the
earth beneath: there is none else. (KJV)

(1KINGS 8:60) That all the people of the earth may know that the
Lord is God, and that there is none else. (KJV)

(ISAIAH 45:4) For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect,
I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though
thou hast not known me. (KJV)
(ISAIAH 45:5) I am the Lord, and there is none else, there is no
God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: (KJV)
(ISAIAH 45:6) That they may know from the rising of the sun, and
from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the Lord, and
there is none else. (KJV)

God had to hide His face from Jesus to fulfill the prophecies, Jesus did not know the Devil is God’s Holy name. So when He is taken to the day of the cross (House built, named the Wilderness) He is told to command the stones to be made bread, or to fulfill all the prophecies. Then to cast Himself down. Or allow the 144 with Judas which are the angels given charge over Jesus to take Him, afflict Him, and in their hands bear Him up or carry Him to be Judged.

They are the angels who gather all things which offend, which is Jesus with the sin of the world. Midnight to Sunrise is OUTER DARKNESS. Jesus just too sin, He has not got a wedding Garment, He is SPEECHLESS, He is bound hand and foot and cast into outer darkness so He had to be carried as the ARK.

The Final thing Jesus is told by God is “Fall down and worship Me, or Allow Yourself to die.” Jesus did not do as He said in the Sermon on the Mount, to agree with Thy Adversary early.” so He goes back and for 42 months preaches the Kingdom with His disciples or shows unto His servants things which must shortly come to pass or He will be going up to Calvary to offer Himself.

Because Jesus does not know the Devil is God’s Holy name:

(REVELATION 13:5) And there was given unto him a mouth speaking
great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to
continue forty and two months. (KJV)

And that IS JESUS.


Also. Many people on this forum and others have mentioned their beliefs of "All are saved." which is correct. But when I added Saddam, and Hitler to the ones saved by grace, which is saying the same as "everyone is Saved." The point of that needle hurt a few people.

What did those who say everyone is saved think it meant? When Jesus spoke to those who were about to stone the woman caught in Adultery, He did not say "Those with less sin cast the first stone." But without sin.

If every person had the authority and power that Hitler and Saddam had, There would be millions of like people. If each person got three wishes, How many races would vanish off the face of the earth? Before the tenth person got their three wishes a few of the races would be gone.

Like Jesus said. It is not what you do, What WOULD YOU DO? WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?

Now I am speaking I believe to mostly Americans. Out of your heart, answer this. You do not need to replay, Just clarify it within yourself. What should we do to those we captured in Iraq, In Afghanistan? How shall we deal with them? Many of them believe they were doing as Allah asked.

Ken

You're very contradicting, Ken
There's no point in arguing with more flaws than what this thread had already propsed with, initially.

Kerkido.

Very contradicting? Can you Scripturally prove it? Or do we just assume you saw some contradictions.

Ken

There's nothing to prove, that hasn't already been proved against you Ken.
Besides, what would be the point? Others have said you don't read their post before you progress onto responding with a wildly-guessed post of your own that in the end contains absolutely no relevance to the poster prior to yourself.
Others have said it, and now I join in the vote siding with them. That in itself is enough to prove a majority agreement, and thus would conclude you invalid in most of your points.

Oh I am sure you could get something on him if you really applied yourself.. lol


True... He has confirmed this himself...


LBD

You want contradictions ken? Here you go! Remember this one?

Kerkido.

I will go along with that. No problem at all.

“There's nothing to prove, that hasn't already been proved against you Ken.”

You got that one 100% correct. But the KEY PART is “that HASN’T already been proved”
And proving something is not what you see as Proven, But what can really be seen as proven. And that is not always what a Group of people see either.

A Billion Buddhists can show Buddha is the Way, and they will all agree. So what? Will God agree to it?

“Others have said.” But did you in fact search out what the Others are seeing? Did my answers show I read their posts or not? Because “Others have said” is called Hearsay. Try using that in court.

I not only read what others say, Unless they are really carried away with nonsense. I also see it in any possible way it could be taken, and often respond to it that way. Just like I took what you said, saw it as what you spoke, and responded to what was proven, and nothing has been proven honestly. Just like the “I don’t read others post.”

Look at their posts, print them out, then look at the response.

THEN, Look at what I posted to them, Print it out, then look at what they responded. Did they address my post? Or just complain they did not get respect, they did not believe I read their’s.

A Majority agreement. Great. Get a few billion others to agree with you. That form of numbers means nothing, It does not matter is one believes what is incorrect, or 5 billion believe it. Agreements of mankind does not make what is truth, false, it does not make what is False, Truth.

Truth is not by Majority agreement. It is by what is established by God.

(MATTHEW 11:16) But whereunto shall I liken this generation? It is
like unto children sitting in the markets, and calling unto their
fellows, (KJV)
(MATTHEW 11:17) And saying, We have piped unto you, and ye have not
danced; we have mourned unto you, and ye have not lamented. (KJV)

You can pipe with that tune all you want. It is not the tune I dance to. You can mourn for lost souls all you want, I know Jesus saved all mankind, Even Saddam, Even Hitler, Even Kerkido.


As far as Voting, We live in a Kingdom, Since when do you get to vote? Is there someone else running for the “Lamb of God” office?

So what you or others consider invalid in my points, Be careful. God made me a porcupine, He gave me a lot of points. They do not pull out easy. I have heard you can soften they by using vinegar.

Zandore,

How do you get the post on the Ark as Contradictions? I have said the flood was a Similitude, It never happened. It is a similitude for the day of the cross, it is one of the Things from Ancient times which had not come to pass yet when Isaiah wrote the verse we see as 46:10.

Then I just went on to show a problem with believing it happened, They would have suffocated with the Gas, or blown themselves up. And Mount Everest is over 29,000 feet above sea level. Hmm? I wonder if the Yetti were in the Ark? Maybe He was one of Noah’s sons? NAW, They would have named him HARRY.

Ken

Yes..... Buddha will agree with that! This is what a great many say about you on their PM.No as much as I hate to say this you live in America and Kerkido lives in New Zealand. Your Bible says that it happened but you deny that it did. One contradicting the other. Who do you expect every one to listen to? You.....don't think so as many have said here at this Forum. Every thing is a similitude to you. Lame joke.

Those who in this thread reason in regards to their beliefs or disbeliefs in God that is invisible and difficult to explain are like those who paint in obscurity. They paint as any painter would, yet, they do it in darkness – they try to make their best - but a blind mind cannot explain what is not visible. However when the light appears and hides the darkness, then the paint of each will appear. And each will face their own silliness.

If your Bible says that it happened but you say that it did not....then what else in it is false? Is the whole thing is make believe..... A lie?

Free,
You've got to read my favorite bible story. It's the story of Job. Job was a rich, perfect man who loved God and did everything right. Then the devil got bored, and God said, "Have you tried my servant Job?" Then the devil destroyed Job's life for no reason. But Job continued to trust and praise God. And God gave him double for his trouble.
God lets bad things happen to people strong enough to live through them. Then he blesses them, because instead of getting worn down by the devil, they wear the devil out. And I'm sure God gets a kick out of that.
Imagine a man who hates his dog. His son has unbeatable strength, and he loves him very much. One day the man sicks the dog on his son just to see his son beat the mess out of his dog. It's kind of like that.
And you should be proud that your Heavenly Father has so much faith in you.

lioncub

A very nice post lion... Welcome to UM...

LBD

God puts people through " tests of faith " to see how many people will remain with him through the hard times, GOD also says that he will never put such a burden on one to cause overwhlement. Even though you dont think GOD is there he is ALWAYS THERE.

I like the way that some people put my situation in better terms. In more ways than one, I know that my experiences have made me a stronger person, but yet it has made a sweet woman to be bitter alot of the times. I feel sometimes that I was cursed with bad luck. I still can't believe in the christianity cult. To me, that is what is it, a cult. I watched the news the other day, during a church sermon a man began to shoot up the place killing the minister, his son, other church goers and then himself.
Then I begin to think about all the people in mental institutions that claim that God spoke to them and made them do certain things. When would we know what is just our minds talking to us or if it is indeed the infamous God? I can't believe in some thing that is so cruel and harsh and who really doesn't give a damn. If you say he does care, then explain the harsh realization of our times, ex. WTC, Oklahoma bombings, Colobine, the war etc. A greater being, who has the ablitity to create a whole earth in just 7 days, doesn't have the ablitity to save the weak and save those in dispair or in a life or death situation that they have no control over. I find that pretty hard to believe if the faith is true.

I never thought of it like this but I still agree and wonder why. Good insight Free.

THX ZAN-MAN!

Tests of faith? So "god" will have people murder, rape, beat, steal and humiliate people just for a test of faith? So do those people that were part of the test just go to hell because god made them kill, rape, beat, steal and humiliate others? Seriously religion is stepping on its own toes. There is no test for faith, for a god to be all knowing and wonderful why would it care if we believe in it? We would be infidels compared to it. The words "test of faith" is just for those to feel a sense of meaning and to move on.

kinda like how santa knows if you've been good or bad?


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religion is a joke, and i too believe it is a cult, you have a group of mindless people who follow a belief system of one man (jesus) who says that he was given these rules from his father (god) who is the creater of the universe....yea ok if you believe that, then why dont you believe that i am actually god here to tell everyone that jesus was a fraud and the god he speaks of was not actually what i am, he only used my name and image to gain folowers in his cult...would you believe me? would you believe me if i told you jesus was actually satan who manifested himself on earth to lead people to follow the wrong ideals? you believe satan placed dinosaur bones to mislead why not place jesus to mislead? how do you know rape, murder, ect are not actually good things? you dont, you only think they are bad because that is the popular belief and is what you have grown up to know as truth...people grew up knowing the world was flat as truth as well as the earth being the center of the universe...we all know they were wrong, how do you know that god is not wrong? how do you know rape and killing is wrong? answer: you dont, and to not challenge beliefs based on non-factual evidence is mindless, following a man you never knew is mindless but yet millions of people do it and millions of people believe they are right.....WITH NO PROOF other than saying "i just know" or "you have to find jesus to understand" or some mindless remark like that

I am getting sick of people calling us believers mindless... You may not agree with our beliefs, but you really don't have to degrade anyone... Thanks...

And thats not my humble, but firm opinion...

LBD

seriously asking so dont take it the wrong way:

what thinking goes into believing someone you have no proof exists?
tell me the logic of you choice


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mind·less ( P ) Pronunciation Key (mndls)
adj.

1) Lacking intelligence or good sense; foolish.

good sense would dictate a belief system based on factual evidence

2) Having no intelligent purpose, meaning, or direction

where is the intelligence/meaning/direction in belief system based on storys

3) Giving or showing little attention or care; heedless: mindless all of the dangers.

not paying attention to what actually causes planets to form, orbits to form, animals to evolve would be mindless by definition, acknowledging the factors that cause of these and then believing in god with out proof would be not caring

God has other plans for you....... keep your faith in Him and you will not get lost...... very simple but very hard to understand and do.........

Seeking.

You do not think a Car evolved. Why would you think life which is far more complicated then any car, did evolve on it’s own?

God created. Billions of forms of life. Each with detailed design.

God created a universe which really come into being from about nothing. Scientist say it was smaller then an atom before the Big Bang. Quite large for something so small.

We are the Center of the universe. I am not talking the physical center, But this whole Universe was prepared for us. Had God not wanted to Create man, He might well have never even wanted a Universe.

Mindless is not an attribute of people, Failure to use it properly is.

But don’t worry, You will have your opportunity to change you mind. If you have not before you die and find out you are at Heaven’s gate. Sorry, no locks, You can wait around outside. There are a lot of people there who came out of hell that would like to talk to you. And it is not like your going anywhere else anyway.

Hell was just a place of sleep till Jesus died for sins. Jesus raised them all up and hell ceased to exist the third day. But those in hell did worry. He showed up on the Second day, they thought they were not getting set free. They did not know they had to wait till the third day.

(PSALMS 22:27) All the ends of the world shall remember and turn
unto the Lord: and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship
before thee. (KJV)

Now remember, to try to hold out and not accept Jesus, After all, Those out of hell have a Great Message of God’s love and Mercy, and besides, they love their job. They rejoice when a person sees the Love of God, Turns and walks inside those broken down gates into God’s arms.

The reason the Sepulchre was opened what not to let Jesus out, He already was out, But to fulfill Scripture, and make the Speulchre as a Quiver, and those out of hell as Arrows shot forth going to the gate to start employment.

(JEREMIAH 5:16) Their quiver is as an open sepulchre, they are all
mighty men. (KJV)

(PSALMS 127:4) As arrows are in the hand of a mighty man; so are
children of the youth. (KJV)
(PSALMS 127:5) Happy is the man that hath his quiver full of them:
they shall not be ashamed, but they shall speak with the enemies in the gate. (KJV)


Those Arrows are like Cupid, Love filled arrows. Say hello for me when you meet them.

Ken

i dont get what your saying, cars have evolved just as humans have...and everyother animal for that matter



and the proof of that is where? a story book?
no, evolution has not been proven, but at least there are facts and evidence to back it up, something believers do not have




a singularity is what is thought of the universe at the point in time before the big bang, but a blown up balloon is a lot larger than a deflated one as well wouldnt you say? because the universe is as large as it is now does not automatically mean someone must have created it, there are laws of physics that take care of that....again with factual evidence backing it up, something believers do not have



thats a good point, if god created man what would the point of such a large universe be? especially if we are supposedly the only life forms he's created, we really dont need an entire universe in order for us to exist, we dont even need a solar system, all we need is the sun and our orbit



id still like someone to explain to me how beliving in god is not mindless



sometimes i wish there was a way to say "i told you so" after you die, but because there is no afterlife i will never be able to




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Seeking.

I agree with you on one point 100%. You will never get the opportunity to say “I told you so.” But plan on the opportunity to say “I thought I was right.”

Did cars evolve all on their own? I guess the cave men did not know how to drive? Maybe they had to wait for a cave man named Yale to invent a key. We use the word invented. Which I would take as created by man. But not without a lot of thought. a lot of trial and error.

And it is not only the life of creatures, But the systems here on earth that keep it habitable for life. We have not used up all the oxygen (we have messed it up a bit) Nitrogen cycles, Even the water cycle to keep life going.

Someone went to an awful lot of preparation to see we would survive. Without those coal and oil deposits we would have used up all the resources quite quickly. two thirds of our surface being water provided for a lot of food supply.

Millions of systems, Both of life forms and natural systems which support life. Quite a design. Quite a Designer.

Maybe the vastness of the Universe is to show How big our Designer is, How small we are, and How much care He has taken to insure our existence.

(ISAIAH 45:18) For thus saith the Lord that created the heavens;
God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established
it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am
the Lord; and there is none else. (KJV)

NONE is a name for Jesus, None declareth, None showeth, When I called, None did answer. There is None beside Me. None can by any means redeem His brother.

ELSE is Christ’s Surname. So there is NONE ELSE beside God.

(ISAIAH 45:4) For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect,
I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though
thou hast not known me. (KJV)
(ISAIAH 45:5) I am the Lord, and there is none else, there is no
God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: (KJV)
(ISAIAH 45:6) That they may know from the rising of the sun, and
from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the Lord, and
there is none else. (KJV)

God had to hide His Face from Jesus to fulfill the Scriptures. Jesus did not know the Devil is God’s Holy Name.

The Bible is more of a Three Story book, as God doubles twice to establish His words as Truth, Words spoken of over 1500 years by over 40 prophets, all about one day that would come about 400 years after God stopped the messages to Israel with Malachi being the last.

The Jewish nation bears witness to the books which make up the Old Testament. That they are intact, existed 400 years before what we see as Christ laid in a manger in Bethlehem. And that those Old Testament Scriptures (Jewish Holy Scripture) was not changed to fit Jesus.

It is the Old Testament which proves there is a God by His ability to set this up. Foretell the Future in minute detail. Fulfill all those prophecies in one day. And it shows Jesus is who He sent to fulfill them.

Pretty good for an OLD STORY BOOK.

Once upon a time, Far away and long ago.

Ken