thank you zandore. Even though my faith isn't in a figment of a varitey of peoples imagination, I have found faith within my family, friends and boyfriend. I don't think that faith has to do with a religion. It is what we preseve it as.

That is what I meant

The Object is not to believe in Priests, Not to believe in TV Ministers, Not to be followers of them. For you will usually see that they are just humans. Still falling short like the rest of us.

My wife told me she trusts me, I told her not to be rediculous, I don't even trust me. Trust God, for humans are human.

When people start following the Minister, You can plan on them falling. You will see they are just people.

And when Priests try to resist being normal. Having wives, etc, Sometimes the results are far worst.

You can make all the vows you want, You can even mean to keep them. But your body has a way of fighting against yourself.

Old Testament priests had Wives and Children. Peter who a cerrtain church claims was their first Pope, Had a Wife. Maybe he could have been charged with Abandonment? the Story is a bit unclear. Later she might have been with him. But either way. God not only made us Spiritual creatures, He made us sexual creatures as well.

Like it of not, a lot of problems come with that in humans. The More (so called) Moral we become, the more restricted we are from being normal. The more the problems will come out, in many forms.

Ken

Did not Jesus have a human body?

That may just be the most depressing way to go through life I've ever heard

I agree with Sera. If you can't have your spouse trust you then why even have one? Relationships are based on trust if you don't have that, then you shouldn't have a relationship. If you can't trust yourself, then there is something seriously wrong, how can anyone or anything put their trust into you if you can't trust yourself? I hope that you don't have any kids Ken, or don't plan on having any. It is just room for trouble. Families are based around trust, if you don't have that, then you shouldn't have a family as well.
I trust myself, my family, friends and boyfriend. It has shed alot of light into my life. Look at where trusting God brought me. Beaten and bruised, physically and emotionally. When I began to trust more into those who are steady in my life, I have healed tremendiously.

Agreed...my own opinions of the Christian god aside (we all know I think he's a murderer ) I just don't see the logic in putting trust in something intangable, over and above those close to you. If you're so deep into religious fanatacism that you trust your diety more than your loved ones...then...wow

He was supposed to have gave his only son up for sacrifice right? To be killed on the cross and that is just one time he has killed someone.

Well, I'm not entirerly sure Jesus was actually crusified to be honest...but my gripe is less about Jesus (who I couldn't care less about), and more about the murdering en mass that, according to the bible, God has commited. Genocide on a truly staggering scale

I think what I might have been trying to say was if he can do that to his son......

As we're all supposed to be his direct creation, aren't we all his children? Assuming, of course, all that biblical nonsense is true.

Thats what I thought too. We were all his children, but then He says otherwise. His son only begotten son or whatever. Why aren't we as special? hmm. And yes, God is a murderer. He drowned people in a flood, he kills everyday. People say it is just people 'going back home' but to me death is death on this earth. Granted that they might be in a better place than this hell. I don't know, it doesn't seem right. Not any of it. hence, why I don't believe.

My opinion has been heaven or hell is what we make it to be in this life.

Hey, I am different!

This is why It Is Hard For Me To Believe In GOD

Hey that looks like my uncle Pete!

*wonders if she's the only one that wants to give Loge's ape a big squishy hug* He looks like santa

Uncle pete played Santa every year.

Oh, so you know Santa in person?

Or you meant, a person that disguises as Santa?

Dressed up as Santa.

Zandore.

Jesus not only had a Human body, He was fully Human. God come down? Naw, The physical son of David raised to be the Son of God is fully Scriptural. And God swore in His Holiness that it would be just that way.

(PSALMS 89:34) My covenant will I not break, nor alter the thing
that is gone out of my lips. (KJV)
(PSALMS 89:35) Once have I sworn by my holiness that I will not lie
unto David. (KJV)
(PSALMS 89:36) His seed shall endure for ever, and his throne as
the sun before me. (KJV)

(LUKE 1:32) He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the
Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his
father David: (KJV)

The Promise to raise up David's son is in 2-Samuel 7:11/14. the House is the day of the cross built as a house, it is not Solomon's temple. Solomon became King while David was still alive, That disqualified Solomon.

Some of you believe you can be trusted? Cute delusion.

Peter told Jesus he would not deny Him, Cute delusion.

When you list what you will do in any given circumstance before it happens, You are almost surely kidding yourself. Or did Human become something that life has shown it not to be?

Honesty is a direction to go into. We do not obtain it.

The book of Job is a look at Honesty, It is Jesus thinking, and God responding to that. "What would I do if I was afflicted?", I might curse God to His face.

The Conversation between Satan and God, Just a similitude. The test is the day of the cross. The Seven sons is the day as 7 time periods, the 3 daughters is the day as 3 pictures. The Wind comes out of the Wilderness (whose House have I made a Wilderness?) and smites the four corners of the House.

The Four corners is the first picture as 4 6-hour periods.

(PROVERBS 9:1) Wisdom hath builded her house, she hath hewn out her
seven pillars: (KJV)

As far as having children, they might well be older then most of you.

If relationships are built on trust, That might explain the divorce rate. Not to mention those who WERE CHRISTIANS. What happend to the TRUST? Did not SOMEONE come to God? Did not SOMEONE Trust no matter what would happen? Did not SOMEONE STOP TRUSTING?

Get a mirror and a magnify glass, and look at SELF closely. Are you married? Do you think of others?, Do you flirt? Do you desire? And then tell yourself, "I TRUST ME."

Ken

Ken something is seriously wrong with you. What makes you think that most people are as dishonest and creepy as you? You can trust your God but not yourself? oh man, you need some help, and not spiritually, mentally.

as for your last question. I am not married, but I have a great boyfriend of 5 years. We live together. Now, Ken, women get hit on all the time. It is human nature to flirt, and also to desire. Man, I desire Brad Pitt soooo much, but it doesn't make me leave my boyfriend. That is where that trust thing we were talking about comes in. And yes, I will look damn right dead sexy, look in the mirror and say I trust me.

Another note of advice for you Ken. Put down the remote, stop watching Maury, Ricki Lake, or Montel. Your just falling into the the belief of day time sitcoms.

This is what you said right?
If Jesus was fully human then he had a vestigial tail (tail bone), The same as every one else right? Why a tail bone if we are not descended from a primate? I upset some people on another thread when I asked the same question, Hopefully you can answer it now.

I agree. I wish I had a tail. i would want a monkey tail so I could just hang around on trees. Or a snow leopard tail, they are soo pretty. I wonder if some ppl have stubs, like Jason Alexander in Shallow Hal. That is a riot! "It wags when I get excited."

I go with the theory that Christ was artificially inseminated. Thus the virgin mary conception. If the aliens did it.....then he didn't have monkey DNA...he was pure.
The monkey DNA came from the "serpent" only he wasn't a serpent till after he was cursed.....so technically he was an upright creature that looked like a man...but had evolved. So the real sin was 'sex' because it mixed the DNA and Eve gave birth to twins....one of adam and one of the 'serpent'. And so if Christ was indeed artifically inseminated...he would have been conceived in a petri dish and not with Mary or Josephs egg and sperm.

The more knowledge we attain the less and less GOD looks like a GOD.

Wow...that has to go down in history as one of the board all time classics...



Actually, the divorce rate is more likely to point to the number of people who were unable to make their relationship work for reasons such as lack of commitment and so on...say putting God before their spouse or something. That kind of thing would certainly up the divorce rate



I assume you're refering to the staggering number of people these days who are seeing the light, and converting either to athiesm, or diesm?



No I'm not married Yes, I think of others Yes, I flirt Yes, I've even known to desire...what's your point exactly? I'm still quite capable of trusting myself, and other people can quite firmly trust me also. There's a difference between what you feel and what you do.

I'm more than a little concerned that you have such a backwards view of sexuality, inherinent in right wing Christian dogma, that you associate any sexual urges with a person being unworthy of trust (no doubt just thinking about it's a sin! Oh me! Oh my!)

Let's weight it up shall we...um...hmm...*looks around, and grabs Shady by the ear, as he happens to be nearby, pulling him into the conversation*

Shady, twenty year old, red blooded male, who turns his head towards anything in a short skirt. Represents the average guy, in that he probably thinks about doing the deed fairly often, and such thoughts can be triggered by anything so slight as seeing a member of the opposite sex

Having said that, he would also never dream of forcing himself on a girl, just as the average guy would never dream of doing so either....

Now, let's take God The biggest mass murderer in history, with a record for genocide that no human, no matter how evil, has ever been able to rival, and who makes his arch enemy (Satan) look rather like a three legged puppy. A being that specifically created a place where his enemies would suffer for all eternity in unspeakable agony, and who's penchant for malice far outweighs any diety that predated him.

This of course is the same god that told us "thou shall not kill" and so on...right before he started killing people of course

I'd much sooner trust Shady, I gotta say It's a choice between a normal person, and Stalin's inspiration God has proven himself to be a being that is unworthy of trust.

That almost has a PG rating!

If you pick up your child and take them from the living room to the kitchen, You have not killed them. Nor does God kill a person by taking them from earth to heaven.

We on earth see part of the picture. Not all of it. But because we can not physically see the person alive with God, We yell "Murderer"

If there is no God, He can not be a Murderer, and if there is a God, there is no such thing as death. For our life is not this body, But the being within this body.

Is God so hard to figure out? Try asking Him? He is not too busy, He has time for your questions. You might not like the answers He gives. I should warn you, there is one thing God takes REAL PERSONAL. He created man in His image, Desire to be like an animal and He might speak to you. For real.

Ken

Like you really know! How does he talk to you? The little voice in yer head?
The one that everyone has to second guess?

I got tired of second guessing that voice whether it was him or not. It was then that I realized that I was psychic! That by just believing, I could heal people and knew their ailments. It was me....I was God.....so if there really is a G.O.D.(Group Of Dieties) out there....he left us with a bit of himself in us.....and he's not here right now and may never come back. Man made alot of stories over the years most of which were greatly exaggerated.

Ken, I'm wondering if at some point in your life you were dropped on your head. Your brain is stuck in the "intollerable preacher" mode, and you just don't know when to quit!! Did it ever occur to you that when you preach to us, not only are you comPLETELY turning us off from Christianity and religion in general by your uppity bible thumping arrogance, but you are completely making yourself a skippem to me and others... meaning I skip your posts. They often have way too much to say without having anything new to say at all.

Step back and realize that your judgmental attitude is one that is condemned by your own god. Your god tells you to spread his word... not smother people in it. Not judge people for not believing what you say. Your arrogance makes you the least TRUSTWORTHY of your kind. Why would anyone on the fence want to join the likes of you if you have no respect for the differences of mankind?

If you want people to actually READ what you say in your threads and respect your words, perhaps you should stop condemning the very people who are reading them. Perhaps you should post something worthy of reading... and maybe I will not be so tempted to skip reading your post whenever I see your name...
....and I'm sure others will do the same.

KJV
John 1:29
The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God[B],which taketh away the sin of the world.
Isaiah 53:7
He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: [B] he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.
Do we have to be like an animal to be treated like one? From the sounds of it we don't.

Women get hit on all the time, What a surprise? It is Human Nature? Two surprises in a roll, Or is that what I was saying? Human nature. We are humans. And I do not trust myself. I know what humans are, and I do not exempt myself from having the same feelings, the same Vulnerability.

God made all hearts alike, I can tell what is in mine by looking what is in yours, and I can tell what is in yours by looking in mine. You think you are not vulnerable? Tell your spouse or loved one, they can trust you COMPLETELY. You have no chance at all of falling short in their eyes. And no crossed fingers behind your back as you make that statement.


When I write something, I usually do not point a finger to a person, But I might point to a concept, and if you take it personnal. Maybe it was meant for you. God speaks through people, But who God is speaking to might not be who we think we are speaking to.

If you think I am condemning someone, Not a Chance. All are saved by grace, all believers and non-believers go to heaven with the righteousness of Christ. THEREFORE there is no CONDEMNATION to those in Christ Jesus. Only problem is, I know all mankind is in the Body of Christ, Paul did not.

I do not like giving false hope, False information, False prophecies.

People take a lot of these things we speak about very serious. Many are really afraid of an END OF THE WORLD. Movies like "LEFT BEHIND" ought to be left unseen, and the books unread.

Almost the entire Church community as far as Christians preach a false God. One who has a place for the eternal torture of humans. One who takes one, and not another. One who's rules are written in Stone. Do it OR ELSE. But whose grace is written in blood at Golgotha.

Christianity as a whole has no idea what was fulfilled at Golgotha, And they were not suppost to. BUT NOW, things are a bit different. It is time to awake. Wipe the eyes, and see how God really is.

Israel will come to see Jesus is the Messiah in 24 years. Plan on it. It will start in about 16 years as the Weapons of war are burned for 7 years. God's word is like as a fire. and all the Arguments of why Jesus is not the Christ will be consumed. Those arguments are the Weapons.

Then for seven months, they start burying the bones. Every prophecy, put where it belongs. Till it all goes together in Truth. Then because of the many prophecies, when everanyone finds a bone, they set a marker till it is searched out to see if it also is one of God's prophecies and where it goes.

(EZEKIEL 39:9) And they that dwell in the cities of Israel shall go
forth, and shall set on fire and burn the weapons, both the shields
and the bucklers, the bows and the arrows, and the handstaves, and
the spears, and they shall burn them with fire seven years: (KJV)
(EZEKIEL 39:10) So that they shall take no wood out of the field,
neither cut down any out of the forests; for they shall burn the
weapons with fire: and they shall spoil those that spoiled them,
and rob those that robbed them, saith the Lord God. (KJV)
(EZEKIEL 39:11) And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will
give unto Gog a place there of graves in Israel, the valley of the
passengers on the east of the sea: and it shall stop the noses of
the passengers: and there shall they bury Gog and all his
multitude: and they shall call it the valley of Hamongog. (KJV)
(EZEKIEL 39:12) And seven months shall the house of Israel be
burying of them, that they may cleanse the land. (KJV)
(EZEKIEL 39:13) Yea, all the people of the land shall bury them;
and it shall be to them a renown the day that I shall be glorified,
saith the Lord God. (KJV)
(EZEKIEL 39:14) And they shall sever out men of continual
employment, passing through the land to bury with the passengers
those that remain upon the face of the earth, to cleanse it: after
the end of seven months shall they search. (KJV)
(EZEKIEL 39:15) And the passengers that pass through the land, when
any seeth a man's bone, then shall he set up a sign by it, till the

Christianity showing Israel who Jesus is? NOT A CHANCE, Israel showing Christians who Jesus is. Christianity has not robbed Israel of their Messiah, Christianity has not see Jesus clearly yet.

Does this stink in your noses? It is suppost to. But searching out things is so HARD. Israel will show Christians. Unless you want to learn real quick? But I doubt if you can accept God's word.

Now all this writting was a waste of time for some, I mean, If you are PSYCHIC, You already knew what I would write?

Like the Mormon's living prophet who was in South America and got hit by a car, DIDN'T He see it coming?

Ken

False hope: Everyone goes to heaven! Believer and unbeliever! No matter their sin!

False information: You see these books? They just shouldn't be read...no...why would anyone want to get more information...they're bad!

False prophecies: Dude, three quarters of your post is a prophecy

Serphina.

Everyone goes to Heaven. From the best to the worst. And they all have the righteousness of Christ on them when they go.

(LUKE 18:31) Then he took unto him the twelve, and said unto them,
Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by
the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished. (KJV)

(DANIEL 9:24) Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon
thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of
sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in
everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy,
and to anoint the most Holy. (KJV)

Do you see that Prophecy Jesus had to Accomplish when He went up to Jerusalem?
Making and END of sin, and Brining in Everlasting righteousness. One of the many Jots and Tittles Jesus had to fulfill.

Daniel 9:24 also has a SEAL, and the Disciples and Paul not seeing sin ended as Accountalbe unto man was what was sealed from them seeing.

Jesus in Job 33:26 is seen rendering to man His righteousness.

We were healed by His stripes, But Jesus took Future sins to Golgotha.

There is no end of this world, It will go on for eternity. The Old World had an end the day of the cross.

As far as the prophecy I show, Not really a prophecy, a future similitude. The Awaking of Israel, then the world. So set your alarm clock. 2029 ad.

(AMOS 3:7) Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth
his secret unto his servants the prophets. (KJV)

God always shows it first. Even the Creation story is shown first, for it is the day of the cross, a similitude, FORETOLD

Ken

OMG ken, you are STILL going on and on like this?? Step down from the pulpit and let the choir sing for a bit!!

Mr Burton...why on earth are you trying to use scripture to back up your arguements, to a person who believes that scripture is not worth the vast amout of paper that has been wasted printint it?

Scripture is riddled with metaphor...not to mention that the bible has undergone vast alterations since its origonal writing (many years after the fact, I might add). It is far from a contempary, uncompromised source. It is biased, likely to be very innaccurate, largly fabricated, and open to interpretation.

I'd say it's a very fair bet to say that far, far more Christians believe in hell than those that don't...what makes you correct, instead of being just another zealot rambling on about scripture, as you do indeed seem to be?

Did you stop to think that you could be one of these that preach a false God?

Still going on with this? Did God offer temporary employment?

Bizeebutt. This will go on, and on, and on. Ever hear of Eternity? It does not end. Not after a few posts, nor a few hundred posts.

As far as using Scripture to a person who does not believe Scripture. Is there only one person viewing these posts? OH? The old World revolves around ME CONCEPT. Sorry, But I write as I see to write, Sometimes gentle, Sometimes with humour (mine, not yours). Sometimes with less love then I should. But who knows why? Maybe God is reaching for someone I am not seeing.

His word does not return void. It has effect. Often on the one writting. I let God point the message, I just record it.

I assume there are reasons a person does not believe the Scriptures. Some do not know the Scriptures, Others think they say something they do not. That is why I quote, and referrence them. That is the Basis I see for Truth.

As far as them being changed, Sure, They were translated, Many guesses as to what each word really meant when it was spoken had to be made. But God speaks in similitudes, and Multiplies visions. that gives us many pictures of the same event.

Put all together they have to fit. So anything out of line has a habit of showing up real soon. The Scripture is not a Short Story as far as the number of words, Concepts, Visions, Dreams, Parables, Prophecies.

Now take them all and put them into one day. It has a way of weeding out what does not belong. It magnifies errors so then can be searched.

When the Soldiers got drafted in world war two. They were not given a set time for service, But were told it was till the Duration. But with World wihout end. Guess when the job's duration is? Till our earthly body dies? Naw, Bible studies are quite popular in Heaven. Learn here, or learn there. Your choice.

Now as far as Humour, Things like Witches, Warlocks, Vampires, Pagans, even Atheists. I see that as Humour. Witchcraft is as the sin of Rebellion (Don't get worried, Jesus took all sin upon Himself, Your safe)

But so is being an Atheist as the sin of Rebellion, and being a Pagan as the sin of Rebellion, For that is what it is. Rebellion against God, and God says all know Him. So someone is not telling the Truth.

I like where a Vampire goes to the dentist and has Fangs Implanted, Some actually do this. Slapping a rattlesnake at the zoo will get them implanted cheaper.
But why would they not have grown naturally? Is someone kidding themselves?

Now Scripture shows the Witch of Endor, I think she got quite a surprise when God gave her a vision. She might have even messed her broom. I hope she was wearing an attends.

All visions are for the day of the cross. and seeing the Dead rise is just what she was looking at, Not just Samuel, all the dead.

(1SAMUEL 28:13) And the king said unto her, Be not afraid: for what
sawest thou? And the woman said unto Saul, I saw gods ascending out
of the earth. (KJV)
(1SAMUEL 28:14) And he said unto her, What form is he of? And she
said, An old man cometh up; and he is covered with a mantle. And
Saul perceived that it was Samuel, and he stooped with his face to
the ground, and bowed himself. (KJV)

The day of the Cross, Jesus which is seen as the house of David in Zechariah 12:8 which is AS GOD, so those in the Body of Christ would be as gods ascending out of the earth.

(ISAIAH 26:19) Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body
shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy
dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead. (KJV)

Now remember, In the Wizard of Oz, the Good witch was the one under the house.

Oh, God I hate you, I am going to be a witch, that will show you. Cute, Good thing Jesus took away sin, or it would be Wicca today, Gone tomorrow.

Ken

How bad has your life been Freespyryt24 I do not have the words.
I read your post and it broke my heart.
I dont know if god exists and if he does why would he allow such terrible things to happen?
My thoughts are with you.
Hope you will be ok

Zandore.

I have considered it, and keep considering all I write on. But this is like building a automobile from scratch. The real test is if everything works the way it should and it runs correctly.

There are humdrens of prophecies which had to be fulfilled to the jot and tittle. The smallest point had to be correct. And that written by over 40 prophets coveing 1000 year period for one day in the Future.

Put them all together and have it run correctly. God did, and without a God, it could have never happened. Check it out. There are Jewish Scriptures. They have their own copies. I am sure they would not change it to fit Jesus. And they can be shown to have existed before a baby was placed in a manger in Bethlehem.

Now if you care to have a Scripture mobile for your own, No problem. They even fit on a stroller for Babes in Christ.

Ken

Then let him do the reaching.


Are you claiming to be a prophet now?


Keep that in mind.


I hope you are not making fun of the Bible. Are you?


You must have missed the movie.


Temper temper!
OH, By the way with Wicca there would have been a lot less people killed in the name of Religion.

Thank you Tam. Your post is very enlightining. I appreciate your time to add the post. It is very kind of you.

Ken: Don't you ever just QUIT?!?!!? You are driving me crazy, and closer to shall I say Wicca, or Buddist, or even satan.
Everytime I read one of your posts, I vomit in my mouth. Is that God? Doubt it. Please save yourself from preaching to myself and the others that are athiests/agnostics on here, you are NOT God and cannot 'save us' nor are you his proficy or deciple. You are nothing but a mere lamb.

It was people like him that put me off about religion too. Some are so narrow minded or closed minded that they make such a pest out of themselves and have absolutely no clue that they are doing it.


Maybe you should consider something else.

When you bring God into a conversation, You think He does not know it is going on? Or He does not have people that do as He wants?

What I call myself Zandore is a messenger. And it does not take a lot to relay a message. Sometimes you do not even have to understand the message or why it is being sent.

Bottom line. If the Bible is true, and it is, You better pray with all you have that the Church is not right in their interpretation.

Almost the entire world would be on a one way trip to eternal torture. But they don't know dittley squat about God.

The Witch under the house was DEAD, and the only good witch, Well, that is called Humour by me, Maybe outrageous by you.

Take that into an Islamic country, and you will find the Only witch is a dead or about to be dead witch. They don't play. They might even be called DEAD SERIOUS.

This wicca, Pagan business is a game. Play it while you can. Who knows which direction our countries can take in a moment. God does not take it seriously, He took it to heart and sent Jesus to make sure no one was lost. Not a single one.

It is one thing to die for a belief. You should make sure it is REAL. And it could really happen.

Free, Whatever way you are DRIVEN, You have the steering wheel. The motor is under your control. What has happend to you happened. It is not going away, and I don't see you trying to forget and move on. And there is a lot opeople who can tell a story that makes your as a sunday school pic-nick.

You are an adult now. Choose a path and take it, or wait at the crossroad. You can go any way you want. But every path has it's own form of problems. Some you might not want to get involved in.

If as you said about driving you to Satan, that is Satan as you see Him. And that path might end up with you where your mother's boyfriend ended up Behind bars. Those that call themselves Satanists often molest children. So what is in your HEAD?? You are an adult, be one and make responsible choices.

If you choose to head into trouble, Trouble will enjoy your company. It loves a crowd.

Time to take responsibility for your self. Adults do not blame what they do now, on what happened to them as kids. They use those experiences to give them insight into making the correct choice, and helping others avoid the experences which hurt.

Ken

Ken, You are nothing but a SCHMUCK! How dare you say those horrible things. Just becaseu I don't value your 'precious God.' How dare you say to that I should forget what happened to me and my family. How dare you say that I might end up like the man who did this to me. You are a sick F**K! I am an adult, I do make responisble desisions. Unlike you. You are a disgrace to humanity and to your God. Get off of my thread, You sorry S.O.B! I feel sorry for your wife and your family to have someone as coldhearted as you in their lives. I hope Satan comes to your door, and lets you feel his wrath. I curse you, Ken. I curse you. I hate you.

Lots of people need help.



Have you tried eating nothing? There are people worse off than you. That's pretty good food. I myself make it a point to fast and hardly indulge or enjoy food all that much. If I were to stop, the foods you received would be very desirable to me.



Wouldn't it be cool if God, who will never leave you, knew everything that happened to you and never forgot it? Well, that's the way it is. He doesn't forget.



Sin causes these problems, so don't blame God.



I have smoked marijuana, crack, and did other things. It is not good--death happens, and, it was Adam's sin (your distant relative) who sinned to cause death. Death is only temporary. Once you pass away through death (which is necessary, as necessary as birth is for you to be alive) your spirit will, like a tree leaving a seed, flourish. And, as a result of original sin, many things happen, such as death and the formation of thorns. Don't blame problems on God--when we pass out of Death's cocoon, we will be born again. Death is rebirth.



You're assuming your soul didn't choose to come here. The Bible doesn't say we didn't choose our lives; so the question is, why would you, knowing the evil going on in this place of visit, come here? Because knowledge of good and evil, once you're subject to evil and then of course turn from it (because your objective is to be good; so while it is good to know both good and evil, it would be foolish to know both and then choose to be evil--how constructive were you?) requires that you encounter evil, and then, God, being good and allowing us the revelation of the truth of evil (so you aren't being withheld the complete truth of reality), you have to then leave evil to both be good and possess the awareness/knowledge.

It is a temporary world, which is why it would be foolish to confuse eternity by choosing sin over righteousness--especially when you know how terrible sin's effects are.

The object is to create a world where we can go to (here) and then learn and grow--by being subject to different realities to gain knowledge. But, since God is good and desires us to also be good, he does not wish for you to overvalue the truths of this world.



So, you complain about life, seeking the goodness of heaven (the sinlessness and peace), and yet now you're whining because your grandma is no longer subject to the world you hate so much? No children were innocent, we were all born evil. Get over it. You sinned, and obviously since you say you "were" innocent, now admit you are no longer innocent, but rather guilty. So, if you're guilty, to whom do you whine to? Do you whine to God for being guilty in his presence?

Is it his fault you are guilty? Did he not come to life, give up every sin and indulgence, and then die for you? Did he not also encounter this world you hate? Jesus did not have a house, or a place to lay his head. Instead, for the sake of truth and eternity came here for all our salvation. He was also then nailed to a cross and persecuted naked in front of many peoples. By this you no longer have to stand guilty in front of God, but rather forgiven.






Life is temporary, and you should be very happy that you suffered if you did--suffering can help a person learn. We all are headed for death, and you happen to be alive at this moment, so get over it and live for what is to come, for what is to come is obviously desirable to you since you speak of your early childhood.

Hi christservant

Can I ask you a question? Do you think Freespyryt24 suffered because she/he sinned?

All I would like is a YES or NO answer please.

By the way I believe in God.

All the best
Faeden

people suffer because they sin............



there was a story on the news a long while ago about a 6 year old month baby being raped or another one were another baby got cut shaken to death......

did these babies also sin?

what people do to cause suffering for other people is not the kind of punishment that you get for sin. The person who does something to you has done so on his own free will... God can't control what people do.

Must not be a very strong God!