lightbeyondthedark
Feb 16 2005, 11:50 PM
QUOTE(Ken1Burton @ Feb 16 2005, 04:51 PM)
And it is YOU and not I who preaches there is a Hell, and it is OPEN FOR BUSINESS.
[right][snapback]490666[/snapback][/right]
Oh I am sorry I tell what the bible really teaches, and I don't make up my own idea about what it says...
Because thats what you do...
I understand people interpreting the bible a little differently, but you have a whole different view on almost everything... Thats fine...
But the way you say "I AM RIGHT" thats not fine...
You know I could tell everyone the story of Jack and Jill... But maybe I should change the ending... Jack and Jill didn't fall down the hill...
Would it be better if I made up my own story instead? Would it be the same message? I think not...
just my humble opinion...
LBD
zandore
Feb 17 2005, 03:12 PM
QUOTE
Lightbeyondthedark.
We do not shove acceptance of the Gospel,
You are right "We do not" but you do shove your version of it and your version stinks.
QUOTE
I will try with my whole heart to see they have the correct pieces of the puzzle. But that is with Millions giving them the wrong pieces. So I may appear a little more aggressive to many, I just see it as trying harder to have them with the information they need to make a CLEAR choice.
The correct pieces are not the ones you have and a clear choice is what we have made. You was not in the running.
Here are some of your "PIECES"
QUOTE
I can not get down to the level of man,
QUOTE
I am striving to be like God,
QUOTE
Mekorig.
You do have plants growing, They are called HAIRS. Get tweezers and a ice pick and you can move them around if you want.
Pieces to a different puzzle maybe. When are you going to get some much needed help?
Tail Bone aka "vestigial tail" aka "COCCYX"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coccyx
livescience.com
I used to be a fundamentalist; But I evolved! Thats a fact Jack
My "Two Tailed Zandore" opinion!
PS..... Did you hear about the "
195,000 years old human skulls" Found recently?
Hoagy
Feb 17 2005, 07:07 PM
[quote=zandore,Feb 17 2005, 12:57 PM]
[QUOTE][quote=Hoagy,Feb 17 2005, 01:20 PM]
livescience.com
I used to be a fundamentalist; But I evolved! Thats a fact Jack
My "Two Tailed Zandore" opinion!
PS..... Did you hear about the "
195,000 years old human skulls" Found recently?
[right][snapback]491310[/snapback][/right]
[/quote]
Ouchie! a sucker-punch if ever I heard one *POW*
[right][snapback]491499[/snapback][/right]
[/quote][/QUOTE]
Some times the truth hurts. But yea it was a sucker punch.
[right][snapback]491542[/snapback][/right]
[/quote]
I used to get Jehovah's witnesses calling at my door all the time, after they had dished out their speil, I just used to say, well, what about historical evidence, like dinosaur fossils? they used to make up some lame answer and I would send them on their way. Another example of people feeling that they have to press their beliefs on others
grrr!
*think happy thoughts*
Ken1Burton
Feb 18 2005, 06:59 AM
Angelusarcane.
If someone came up and talked endlessly about the Quran? No problem. I would listen to the message till I got an understanding if first: they knew what they were talking about, Second, If they were willing to discuss it. Third, If they had the Interpretation correct.
NOW, Would YOU like to know what the Quran says? I have read it, I have studied it, I have applied what God shows as the way He hides things in Scripture to it, and it passed the Test. God inspired the Quran, and it says the same thing the Old Testament prophecies said would come to pass as God worked His salvation for manking the day of the cross using Christ Jesus.
BUT, If you do run into any such Moslems, Remind them, Allah said He gave the book to the people or Old Testament to the Jews, The Gospel to the followers of Jesus, And that they are both true, and there are believers in Both, and in the end Allah will bring all three religions together. So tell then to read the Old and New Testament also.
Lucifer? Like Isaiah 14:12 Lucifer? God speaks in Similitudes. Who was the one in Hosea 6:2 who after two days HE HE HE will revive us? Who went to those in the Grave? WHO was the one who the dead would hear HIS HIS HIS voice?
How hast Thou fallen from Heaven? You did not take Future sins upon Yourself did you? Seeing you ended past and present sins then with Your Stripes.
Move the Creation story to the day of the cross. That is where it belongs.
And when you mention the angel Lucifer refusing to worship man, You just jumped into the Quran, Did you not? And it was when they were told to prostrate themselves before Adam, and Satan remained Standing.
Adam is Jesus the day of the cross. The day is as 1,000 years, Jesus is alive 930 years, and dead or desolate 70 as Jerusalem. God speaks in Similitudes, the Quran shows Allah speaks in Similitudes. So Satan did not bow down before Adam, How could He?
Did you know Satan desired to sift Peter? Isn’t it strange that God’s Word says the same thing?
(AMOS 9:9) For, lo, I will command, and I will sift the house of
Israel among all nations, like as corn is sifted in a sieve, yet
shall not the least grain fall upon the earth. (KJV)
God told Satan in the book of Job “You moved Me against Job without a Cause.” Is it not strange that God’s word says the same thing?
(JEREMIAH 17:10) I the Lord search the heart, I try the reins, even
to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit
of his doings. (KJV)
so cause or not, Because God has stated it in His words, He will try Job, Cause or not.
Satan took all Job had, His animals,. His children, etc, and guess who Job said did it?
(JOB 1:21) And said, Naked came I out of my mother's womb, and
naked shall I return thither: the Lord gave, and the Lord hath
taken away; blessed be the name of the Lord. (KJV)
(JOB 1:22) In all this Job sinned not, nor charged God foolishly. (KJV)
Job did not sin, nor charge God foolishly by saying the LORD did it. Satan is just a similitude, The conversation in Job, Just God using what is not:
(1CORINTHIANS 1:28) And base things of the world, and things which
are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to
bring to nought things that are: (KJV)
And this Book which I hold in such High Esteem, has many Mistranslations. But that is the READERS Mistranslating what God is saying, to what they want to believe God is saying.
I wondered a lot about Antiaging. Having read the New Testament over 400 times, Why would not God have shown what is really there? But God shows many things, I no longer wonder. It was a delightful story, So read it again and again, SEE how God will PAYBACK the unbeliever, GO GET THEM GOD. Antiaging saw God doing what was desired by antiaging. Pouring out Wrath.
God has not got any anger, fury or wrath left, they were pictures for the day of the cross, they are GONE. When God poured out His fury, it was looking at the Second picture. Fury is not an attribute of a loving God.
Vengeance is MINE, Saith the LORD, I WILL REPAY. He does REPAY, He repays love for hate, He repays blessings for cursing, He repays everyone with the Righteousness of Christ for going astray. The Sheep are the Wicked seen in Jeremiah 12:1/3. So they enter the Kingdom prepared for them from the Foundation of the World, and the Lamb is slain from the Foundation of the World, or from Golgotha, He declareth the end from the Beginning (Isaiah 46:10)
So when Jesus said from the Cross “It is finished” this is the BEGINNING of our New World with Christ and God. Jesus just took Future sins so He could die a sinner and get the keys to death and hell He needed to go there and get them all out as Zechariah 9:11 shows. So He is a Murder from the Beginning, or He had the sins of the world at that point.
Go for God sending a lying spirit, or all the Prophecies are as lies TILL they are fulfilled the day of the cross and made TRUTH. So guess who the Father of the Prophecies are?
(1KINGS 22:23) Now therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying
spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the Lord hath
spoken evil concerning thee. (KJV)
Go for the Lord devouring like a Lion in Hosea 13:8, add Roaring in Psalms 22:1, Add in Adversity in Psalms 35:15. Seeking Whom He may devour, or all being consumed into the Body of Christ.
And for those who see Hell as an eternal separation between man and his Creator, WAKE UP. That is to put GOD IN HELL. He does not want to be separated from any of His Children. Ask a Mother which one of her babies she never wants to see again? Ask a day, Which Child he wants to be eternally separated from.
God has watched us from the moment we were conceived, He knows why we stumble, He knows why we made the choices we did, And He knows the WHYS more then we know ourselves. God sent Jesus to insure that He would not be separated from any one of His Children. He made Himself seem harsh in Scriptures to get us to do right first out of fear, then when Love overcomes that fear, Out of caring for others.
Lightbeyondthedark? You tell what the Bible really teaches? When was the last time you taught Daniel 9:24's making and end of sin, and bringing in everlasting Righteousness? When was the last time you taught “Behold the Lamb of God which TAKETH AWAY the sin of the WORLD, Not a believer, but of the WORLD.
You teach what YOU believe the Bible says, But when the verses say different, You want to hold hell open for business. Grace bought all the INVENTORY and closed the processing plant.
Jesus and sin went up the hill, and to a cross did go.
Jesus and sin was nailed to that cross, as He suffered so.
But He was there to do away, with what separated us from God.
And hopefully pave a way of life, that others would want to trod.
There a sinner between two innocent men, with the future sin of mankind
Separated from the God He loved, With loving grace, forever to bind.
Jesus bled to death on that cross, as His blood pumped within.
A soldier’s spear pierced His side, the Blood washed away sin.
On that Hill called Calvary, the Lamb of God died.
When one takes it to heart, There’s often a sigh!
Jesus said it is finished, No one needs to climb.
To hill to get water. Living water devine.
Jack and Jill are saved by God’s grace like the rest.
Though we all deserved it, But God sent His BEST.
LittleIrish.
Thank you very much, Jesus told me this would happen, But it had something to do with Him.
(LUKE 6:22) Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they
shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and
cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake. (KJV)
(LUKE 6:23) Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold,
your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their
fathers unto the prophets. (KJV)
(JOHN 15:18) If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before
it hated you. (KJV)
The WARP is moving to WARP drive Five. And this is going deeper then any man has gone before, so add a CUBIT so you get your angel status.
Messed up reality? Did you know a MESS is a Military Meal? COME AND DINE!
My Mouth is like a RAGING RIVER??? THANK YOU. Amen and Amen.
(JOHN 4:14) But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give
him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall
be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life. (KJV)
(JOHN 7:38) He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said,
out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. (KJV)
Lightbeyondthedark. Did it ever occur to you that the Spirit within you might be suppling these things for me to use? And suppling me with how to answer them?
(MARK 13:11) But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take
no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye
premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that
speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost. (KJV)
RAGING RIVER? Amen and Amen.
The Woman in Revelation chapter 12 is the Nation of Israel, Who cast after Her Living waters?
(REVELATION 12:15) And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as
a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away
of the flood. (KJV)
God hides Himself rather well, For time, times and a half of time= 2029 ad, the Living waters cover the Sea or the nation of Israel will see Jesus is the Messiah in Scripture, Right on Schedule.
Hoagy.
Maybe those who seem to be trying to tell others was SENT to do just that, The Great Commission is also part of Christian belief. Some have learned that as we share, God gives us more to share, and out of GREED we want more, so we share more.
(LUKE 6:38) Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure,
pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give
into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it
shall be measured to you again. (KJV)
When I was in the Army, I worked in the Dental service, Have you ever considered a CAP? It might do well to fill the Gap. Them women are sure to love the Smile. Could even put a diamond in it so it sparkles.
God made a CAP:
The Sheep or the Wicked seen in Jeremiah 12:1/3 seen as TEETH in Song of Solomon 4:2. Goats as hairs in 4:1. So when they pluck the haird from His face, they separated the Sheep from the Goats, all in Similitude:
(ISAIAH 3:17) Therefore the Lord will smite with a scab the crown
of the head of the daughters of Zion, and the Lord will discover
their secret parts. (KJV)
(ISAIAH 3:24) And it shall come to pass, that instead of sweet
smell there shall be stink; and instead of a girdle a rent; and
instead of well set hair baldness; and instead of a stomacher a
girding of sackcloth; and burning instead of beauty. (KJV)
Now, For the puzzle. God is converting them as Children, Babies, that is. The Scab on the Crown of their head is called a CRADLE CAP. Secret parts? Must be diaper time. We know what the STINK is all about. As Daddy passes the baby and leaves the room. A RENT? Someone must have cut the Cord. Sackcloth, Poor babies might get wrapped in Sackcloth? Burning? I guess they did not have A+D ointment back then.
Well as long as I said something about the missing tooth, Consummate Deist looks a BIT PALE. Must be the Rider on the pale Horse, or noon to sunset, Death followed by Hell as Jesus died and descended into hell, ?? I wonder if Jesus saw Consummate down there? It might be his hometown.
(JEREMIAH 30:6) Ask ye now, and see whether a man doth travail with
child? wherefore do I see every man with his hands on his loins, as
a woman in travail, and all faces are turned into paleness? (KJV)
The 144 with Judas are the 144,000. Seen as a wall in Revelation 21:17. Multiplied by 1,000 in Deuteronomy, this is the Virgin birth fulfilled in Prophecy, The Body of Christ seen born the day of the cross in Psalms 2:6/7. Given the heathen and Herman Munster in 2:8.
Zandore,
You made a CLEAR CHOICE? Which one? You chose Jesus, then You chose not to choose Jesus. Are you sure your choices have ended?
Who was the one who was 195,000 years old and had more then one head when He died? Move the Creation story to the day of the cross where it belongs, Life on earth did not begin 6,000 years ago. Forget the Skulls and check for TAILS.
I have very little problem with spiking the punch, But why put a sucker in the punch bowl? To keep it mixed up, or scum off the sides? Did you ever have one of them in a aquarium to keep it clean and have it die? Not good, Not good at all.
Hoagy,
You better be glad there are Dinosaur fossils. If you walked outside and found a live one named “REX”, You might be seeing who has the Bigger smile. And I think there is a type of Sandwich called a HOAGY, and you would be it. Hold the pickle.
Whose Name ALONE is JEHOVAH, that is for Jesus when He was ALONE on the Cross, it does not apply now. That is when He was our Provider.
If you had just showed them your two tails and asked them “Now what do you think about Evolution?”
If God is nice enough to send people who need to know Him, Then talk to them. They believe that Jesus started His 1,000 year reign in heaven in 1917, they added 70 years and predicted Jesus would come again in 1987. Which came and went.
NOW, When you make a prophecy. If God told you, it will come to pass, That one did not, So you get ESTABLISHED as a False Prophet, You do not get to keep guessing till you get one right. !917 might have looked THEN like the start of the Great tribulation as World War One was beginning, But looking back now, It can be seen a little clearer.
They also think they will be the 144,000 (So do the Mormons). But both are 1976 years too late. They were the 144 with Judas which formed a wall around Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane.
But I do know a lot of people who first started reading the Bible, and going o services because they came to the door, in spite of all the insults. And tried to show People who God is.
The Version of Scripture which they use called the New World Translation. Is almost a KJV with the Name of God changed to Jehovah a lot. It does have a lot of footnotes, one showing about 144 places where the Jewish Nation claim Christians changed the Name of the Father to the Son.
It also has footnotes on the last part of the book of Mark, where the oldest copies do not have the ending as we see in the KJV, and there are two different ending. The KJV chose the longest one.
Jehovah Witnesses were also one of the Groups persecuted in Germany during world war two.
Ken
You want to start a flame war go else where. Read the rules at the top of the board and please refrain from starting on each other. thank you
zandore
Feb 18 2005, 03:20 PM
QUOTE
If someone came up and talked endlessly about the Quran? No problem. I would listen to the message till I got an understanding if first: they knew what they were talking about, Second, If they were willing to discuss it. Third, If they had the Interpretation correct.
This is what I have been telling you right along. If the interpretation was correct.
QUOTE
And this Book which I hold in such High Esteem, has many Mistranslations. But that is the READERS Mistranslating what God is saying, to what they want to believe God is saying.
Just as you are doing.
QUOTE
Zandore,
You made a CLEAR CHOICE? Which one? You chose Jesus, then You chose not to choose Jesus. Are you sure your choices have ended?
To you Jesus was just a normal man.
QUOTE
Who was the one who was 195,000 years old and had more then one head when He died? Move the Creation story to the day of the cross where it belongs, Life on earth did not begin 6,000 years ago. Forget the Skulls and check for TAILS.
Two heads? 2 skulls, 2 skeletons. Leave the Evolution fact where it belongs.
QUOTE
If you had just showed them your two tails and asked them “Now what do you think about Evolution?”
We know it to be FACT!
Matthew 10:14
And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.(KJV)
Depart
Hoagy
Feb 18 2005, 03:28 PM
Hoagy,
You better be glad there are Dinosaur fossils. If you walked outside and found a live one named “REX”, You might be seeing who has the Bigger smile. And I think there is a type of Sandwich called a HOAGY, and you would be it. Hold the pickle.
Whose Name ALONE is JEHOVAH, that is for Jesus when He was ALONE on the Cross, it does not apply now. That is when He was our Provider.
If you had just showed them your two tails and asked them “Now what do you think about Evolution?”
If God is nice enough to send people who need to know Him, Then talk to them. They believe that Jesus started His 1,000 year reign in heaven in 1917, they added 70 years and predicted Jesus would come again in 1987. Which came and went.
Firstly, my nickname of Hoagy does not come from a sandwich, so I will let that one slide, pick up a copy of 2000AD and enjoy...
Secondly, your comments are proably the truth in your eyes that fine, just remember we are'nt all of the same persuasion here.
Thirdly, I think I will nominate you for the longest reply I have ever seen!
lightbeyondthedark
Feb 18 2005, 05:19 PM
QUOTE(Ken1Burton @ Feb 18 2005, 12:59 AM)
Third, If they had the Interpretation correct.
What?!? That is just a silly statement...
Ok, now I know for sure the way you think...
QUOTE(Ken1Burton @ Feb 18 2005, 12:59 AM)
Lightbeyondthedark? You tell what the Bible really teaches? When was the last time you taught Daniel 9:24's making and end of sin, and bringing in everlasting Righteousness? When was the last time you taught “Behold the Lamb of God which TAKETH AWAY the sin of the WORLD, Not a believer, but of the WORLD.
Thats fine Ken... You keep speaking the word how you want...
But I will always believe that you have accept Jesus' sacrifice to be cleansed...
QUOTE(Ken1Burton @ Feb 18 2005, 12:59 AM)
You teach what YOU believe the Bible says
OMG!?!
I think the same could be said about you sir...
What makes you right and me not?
QUOTE(Ken1Burton @ Feb 18 2005, 12:59 AM)
Lightbeyondthedark. Did it ever occur to you that the Spirit within you might be suppling these things for me to use? And suppling me with how to answer them?
Your not answering anything...
Your telling me I'm wrong, and to me thats not an answer...
And no, the spirit I have in me tells my heart that the things you say are false, it supplies you with nothing...
I'll keep my faith in God and not so much in you Ken...
QUOTE(Ken1Burton @ Feb 18 2005, 12:59 AM)
RAGING RIVER? Amen and Amen.
Yes, but to speak so much without listening...
Its not good... You don't take into account what others say.. You have said openly that you don't listen to or take seriously people on the forum... You have no respect for anyone... How do you ever expect to help anyone?
Ken1Burton
Feb 18 2005, 05:54 PM
Freespyryt.
I would never keep it simple, You might think I saw you as retarded. You know, Like See God run, run run run. See God chase sin, Chase chase chase.
You told me you were an adult, Do not ask to be talked to as if you were a child and needed simple words. There are many concepts which go into quite a bit of detail, As for those who desire Simple, I suggest Vacation Bible school for a start.
Zandore,
Jesus was born like any other Human, Had God not used him, You might have never heard of Joseph’s and Mary’s first born son, Whom Joseph would have been able to physically call son.
And maybe the Child born to David and Bathsheba would have been King instead of Solomon.
Which DEPART did you want? DE HEAD or DE TAIL?
Hoagy, Seek ye first the Kingdom of God, Spelling comes later.
2000 ad? They did not even know that our calendars are 4 years off, 2,000 AD was what we called 1996. Jesus was not born 4 years before Christ.
Lightbeyondthedark.
What you hold as truth can be Scripturally shown as error. For it is the Scriptures which show what is, what is not. And God inspired the Old Testament prophets, and Jesus said He would fulfill those prophecies to the jot ad tittle, so sin had to end as accountable unto man the day of the cross. And the Disciples and Paul being sealed from seeing that would naturally speak error.
(PROVERBS 1:5) A wise man will hear, and will increase learning;
and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels: (KJV)
I said I do not listen to silly things. Speak of what the Scriptures really say. If you want to take things personal, that is within you, they are not meant that way.
You seem to have this great need for respect. Why? Is it not how we appear in God’s eyes and not other people’s eyes? Respect is something that dwells within yourself, and if it is there, You do not need it from others. You know how you are, your motives for doing something. If they are content within you, Why do you need outside witness?
I do not focus on how I appear to others. It is the message, not the messenger. You tell me over and over how I should speak and act. How about you try this. Keep ourselves out of the message completely. And speak of the Gospel and the Gospel only.
zandore
Feb 18 2005, 06:15 PM
QUOTE
Freespyryt.
I would never keep it simple, You might think I saw you as retarded. You know, Like See God run, run run run. See God chase sin, Chase chase chase.
You told me you were an adult, Do not ask to be talked to as if you were a child and needed simple words. There are many concepts which go into quite a bit of detail, As for those who desire Simple, I suggest Vacation Bible school for a start
I would suggest reading the Forum rules:
Board GuidelinesQUOTE
Jesus was born like any other Human,
Your words....like any other human. Not the son of God.
QUOTE
Which DEPART did you want? DE HEAD or DE TAIL?
What do you mean by this?
QUOTE
What you hold as truth can be Scripturally shown as error. For it is the Scriptures which show what is, what is not. And God inspired the Old Testament prophets, and Jesus said He would fulfill those prophecies to the jot ad tittle, so sin had to end as accountable unto man the day of the cross. And the Disciples and Paul being sealed from seeing that would naturally speak error.
It might be in error to your bible, But not to the Bible that most other christians use.
QUOTE
I said I do not listen to silly things.
You had every one fooled.
IF you are a Christian you would follow the Bible.
Matthew 10:14
lightbeyondthedark
Feb 18 2005, 06:27 PM
QUOTE(Ken1Burton @ Feb 18 2005, 11:54 AM)
What you hold as truth can be Scripturally shown as error. For it is the Scriptures which show what is, what is not.
Hmm...
I really don't agree... You seem to see the scriptures differently them me...
QUOTE(Ken1Burton @ Feb 18 2005, 11:54 AM)
(PROVERBS 1:5) A wise man will hear, and will increase learning;
and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels: (KJV)
"A wise man will
hear"
Exactly... You don't hear... To hear you have to listen, and you don't listen at all..
QUOTE(Ken1Burton @ Feb 18 2005, 11:54 AM)
I said I do not listen to silly things. Speak of what the Scriptures really say. If you want to take things personal, that is within you, they are not meant that way.
Maybe that is why not many people listen to you...
You speak of what you think the scriptures say...
And I only take things personal because you have a "holier then thou" attitude and you show no respect...
QUOTE(Ken1Burton @ Feb 18 2005, 11:54 AM)
You seem to have this great need for respect. Why? Is it not how we appear in God’s eyes and not other people’s eyes? Respect is something that dwells within yourself, and if it is there, You do not need it from others. You know how you are, your motives for doing something. If they are content within you, Why do you need outside witness?
Because giving respect to your fellow men/women is just right... Its a courtesy that all people should show one another... You on the other hand don't seem to agree... Well thats fine... But I do happen to think respect is an important thing...
QUOTE(Ken1Burton @ Feb 18 2005, 11:54 AM)
I do not focus on how I appear to others. [right][snapback]492676[/snapback][/right]
Hmm...
People are going to look at you to see how the message affects your life... If they see a judgemental, unrespectful person, who wont listen to anyone, they probably wont want to hear your message...
just my humble opinion...
LBD
Freespyryt24
Feb 18 2005, 08:01 PM
QUOTE
Freespyryt.
I would never keep it simple, You might think I saw you as retarded. You know, Like See God run, run run run. See God chase sin, Chase chase chase.
You told me you were an adult, Do not ask to be talked to as if you were a child and needed simple words. There are many concepts which go into quite a bit of detail, As for those who desire Simple, I suggest Vacation Bible school for a start.
G thanks Ken. I like you soooo much more now.
But tell me this.... where do you get off talking such lies and crap?
what make you better than me or anyone on here?
I didn't say that I wanted simple words, I told you to keep it simple. You write pages and pages of crap, If you want anyone to listen/read your stupidness, keep it shorter.
I have warned both yourself and Ken about this
You want to start a flame war go else where. Read the rules at the top of the board and please refrain from starting on each other. thank you
why do these people always back of when you start asking THEM questions????
but really, most of the other christians are getting into the swing of not preaching, and saying "but that's just my humble opinion"