themannamedpatty
Jan 7 2005, 10:00 PM
who do you think he is i think he is someone we all know already or some onewho will come soon very soon what are your ideas about this guy ?
QueenoftheNight
Jan 7 2005, 10:04 PM
What is your sick obsession over him? this is not the first time your mentioned the anti-christ. I assume you are a wanna-be goth kid who thinks hell and worshiping the devil is "cool" right?
Hotoke
Jan 7 2005, 10:06 PM
there is no antichrist never was never will be.
o and if you really worship the devil. that is not cool. soon you will rape children and bring sacrifices to the devil. just because you want to rebel
FrostWarrior
Jan 7 2005, 10:18 PM
don't be too hard on him. Religion is what makes the world interesting.
BurnSide
Jan 7 2005, 10:19 PM
third? what about the first?? or the second??
FrostWarrior
Jan 7 2005, 10:26 PM
LOL its true. i'm with burnside, "HUH?"
Hotoke
Jan 7 2005, 10:28 PM
one of them was some guy named nero
Hotoke
Jan 7 2005, 10:34 PM
kim yong ill or a man named patty are the new anti christs
dust
Jan 7 2005, 10:36 PM
Right.. How bout we drop the topic and wait for an admin or mod to move/close this topic.
QueenoftheNight
Jan 7 2005, 10:36 PM
I dont believe their were any anti-christ yet. We would know it if their were. The world is supposed to end or somthing when he comes right?
themannamedpatty
Jan 7 2005, 10:49 PM
yeah or at least thats what i heard from some kind of bible expert and a bunch of nostradamus fans.
SilverCougar
Jan 7 2005, 10:55 PM
*groans*
If I say I'm the antichrist, will you stop with the asking of it?
Loge
Jan 7 2005, 11:00 PM
QUOTE(themannamedpatty @ Jan 7 2005, 05:00 PM)
who do you think he is i think he is someone we all know already or some onewho will come soon very soon what are your ideas about this guy ?
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Nostradamus and the Antichrist
"The long awaited One (Antichrist) will Return,
He will appear (as Marxism) in Asia (in the Soviet Union) and be at home in (united) Europe
One (atheistic ideology) who is issued from the (Mind or) Great Hermes (hermetic or hidden plans of Intellectual Mammals)
And he (his hatred) will grow over (against) all the (Religions or) Kings (Malachim) of the East (Solar Christ)."
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1 John, chapter 2"18: Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
"19: They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
"20: But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.
"21: I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.
"22: Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
"23: Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. "
In the Tree of Life = Tifereth is esoterically the "Son of Man" the Son of the Spirit, the Son of our Inner Father, the Human Soul united with Christ!

The Malachim (Kings) belong to Tifereth the (6) sixth Sephirah which astrologically is the house of the Sun!
So, any one who pronounces him/herself against the Soul or Christ, he/she is the Antichrist!

"even now are there many antichrists"
Hotoke
Jan 7 2005, 11:01 PM
it has been decided I am the antichrist
riotboy555
Jan 7 2005, 11:08 PM
there were 3 antichrists?
Jesus_Freak
Jan 7 2005, 11:49 PM
there were, and are many many more than 3....
JennRose
Jan 8 2005, 12:13 AM
I realize from the name anti-"christ" that the term is Judeo-Christian, but do any other religions have a comparative figure?
Kat_Kloud
Jan 8 2005, 12:13 AM
Isn't an anti christ just someone who is against christ? Man, there are a whole load of them.
Jesus_Freak
Jan 8 2005, 12:18 AM
yeah, pretty much... that's what Loge was talking about... but they arent THE antichrist from the book of revelations....
riotboy555
Jan 8 2005, 12:25 AM
QUOTE(Jesus_Freak @ Jan 7 2005, 11:49 PM)
there were, and are many many more than 3....
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who were they, besides the obvious(bill gates and bush

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Boff
Jan 8 2005, 12:29 AM
I always heard it was Napoleon and Hitler...but I doubt there ever was one...
Scorpius
Jan 8 2005, 12:37 AM
When they speak of The AntiChrist they speak of a person who will try to bring down the religion of God and those whose faith lies with him. It is also person who will attain power whether it be military or political and not an ordinary person.
Since there seems to be some misunderstandings of the concept of an AntiChrist then in general it would be anyone who rejects Jesus or God, other than that it would be a person who fits the description in the first paragraph above.
So it all depends on where you stand... tomatoe-tomahtoh
Gmac1000
Jan 8 2005, 01:04 AM
Some say that Prince William will be the third "anticrist".
And he has a motive for it as well.
Gmac1000
Jan 8 2005, 01:13 AM
In The Muslim religion they say that when the Third Anticrist arrives, Jesus will appear on top of a church (religion unknown) and he will break the cross across his knee then a mortal man/women will bring him a ladder and he will then become human and help us defeat the third anticrist.
Dando Kast
Jan 8 2005, 03:04 AM
QUOTE(Hotoke @ Jan 7 2005, 07:28 PM)
one of them was some guy named nero
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Nero was the emperor of Rome when it fell.....
Fluffybunny
Jan 8 2005, 03:10 AM
QUOTE(Gmac1000 @ Jan 7 2005, 05:13 PM)
In The Muslim religion they say that when the Third Anticrist arrives, Jesus will appear on top of a church (religion unknown) and he will break the cross across his knee then a mortal man/women will bring him a ladder and he will then become human and help us defeat the third anticrist.
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From an artistic point a of view it would be a lot cooler if jesus were to jump/repel off of the top of the church. Some well timed pyrotechnics would be nice too...
A ladder seems too boring...
seeking
Jan 8 2005, 03:20 AM
hes gonna need a black jump suit and a pair infared gogles for me to buy it
hyuugaNeji
Jan 8 2005, 03:32 AM
A christian explanation of the antichrist and with facts to back up every claim
The Bible describes the number 666 in Revelation 13:18, and it specifically says that it is the number of a man. “Here is wisdom. Let him that has understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is six hundred threescore and six.”
There is much confusion and speculation today concerning this mysterious number. Many believe this to be the number of the antichrist. Still others believe that this number is somehow associated with the sinister mark of the beast. Who is the man who bears this number? Is he the antichrist? When will he appear? What are the devastating effects his presence is expected to have on the earth? Will this person choose to remain unknown, or will his presence be announced and his work done openly? Or, will he masquerade as some holy person that the whole world looks up to, thinking he is working for God instead of the devil?
The world is expecting the antichrist to come in the near future. Will the antichrist announce his arrival when he gets here? An essence of evil surrounds the term antichrist, and evil rarely works openly. Instead, evil usually wears a facade of righteousness to cover its real character in order more easily to deceive.
When most people read the Bible, much of what they read they do not understand. In many places it is written in code or symbols, especially many of the prophecies that foretell future events. Codes and symbols were used to preserve the Bible down through the ages. If certain powers that had existed had been aware that the Bible was talking about them, they would have done their best to destroy every trace of it. They would have persecuted Christians with much more vigor than they did, and many millions more would have died at the stake or suffered other agonizing torture and death.
That the Bible should be written in symbols is not really so strange. We often use symbols today to convey information. For instance, suppose you picked up an evening newspaper in the United States and saw a political cartoon that portrayed a donkey kicking an elephant. You would immediately understand that the Democrats had defeated the Republicans in the recent election.
The Bible itself tells us what the codes and symbols mean, and when we are familiar with these prophetic symbols, we will be able to understand prophecy just as clearly as if it had been written in plain text. As we shall see, the Bible was meant to be understood by those searching for truth.
Daniel 7:1-8,15-21: “In the first year of Belshazzar king of Babylon Daniel had a dream and visions of his head upon his bed: then he wrote the dream, and told the sum of the matters. Daniel spoke and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea.”
wind and sea are mentioned. Jeremiah 25:32,33 shows that winds represent war and strife. “Thus says the Lord of hosts, Behold, evil shall go forth from nation to nation, and a great whirlwind shall be raised up from the coasts of the earth. And the slain of the Lord shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth.”
Medo-Persia fought against the ancient city of Babylon and conquered it, Jeremiah 51:1,11 tells us that this war was a destroying wind. “Thus says the Lord; Behold, I will raise up against Babylon, and against them that dwell in the midst of them that rise up against me, a destroying wind. Make bright the arrows; gather the shields: the Lord has raised up the spirit of the kings of the Medes: for his device is against Babylon, to destroy it.” Thus we see that “wind” in prophecy represents war and strife.
The next symbol we must consider is water. Revelation 17:15 tells us that water is used to represent people, the “sea” of humanity. “And he said to me, The waters which you saw, where the whore sits, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.”
With our understanding of these prophetic symbols, we can readily see that Daniel 7:2 describes war among the inhabitants of earth. “. . . the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea.”
Verse three tells us what the results of these wars were: “And four great beasts came up from the sea, different one from another.”
Many animals or beasts are described in the prophecies. Daniel 7:17 tells us that “These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, who shall arise out of the earth.” Verse twenty-three says, “The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth.” A beast, therefore, represents a king or a kingdom or a nation — some political entity.
Today, we also use beasts symbolically to represent various nations. A bear, for instance, represents Russia; a lion represents England; and an eagle represents the United States.
In the prophecy of Daniel 7:1-8,15-21 that we are considering, We see that as a result of the wars on the earth, four separate nations sequentially appeared on the stage of history, each one different from the others.
Verses four through eight: “The first was like a lion, and had eagle’s wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made to stand upon the feet as a man, and a man’s heart was given to it. And behold another beast, a second, like a bear, and it raised itself on one side, and it had three ribs in its mouth between its teeth: and they said to it, Arise, devour much flesh. After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, that had four wings of a fowl on its back; the beast also had four heads; and dominion was given to it. After this I saw in the night visions, a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and exceedingly strong; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and broke in pieces, and stamped the residue with its feet: and it was different from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns. I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.” Here we have three more prophetic symbols: wings, horns and heads.
The symbol of heads is also used in various places in the Bible to represent kings and kingdoms. This can be shown by Revelation seventeen, verses nine and ten. “And here is the mind that has wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sits. And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he comes, he must continue a short space.” Verse ten would be more accurately translated as “They also represent seven kings. . . .”
Horns are yet another symbol that represents kings or kingdoms, as Daniel 7:24 indicates. “And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise.” Thus, prophecy can show that one nation follows another in chronological sequence. For instance, a beast that grows several horns signifies a power followed by several other powers.
With our new-found knowledge of prophetic symbols, it is easy to see that as a result of military conquest, four powerful nations or empires arose successively on the stage of history. The first was represented by the lion, the king of beasts. The wings symbolized the rapid conquest of this power as it defeated one nation after another to assemble its empire. The second is represented to be a cruel power at whose hands many lost their lives as it devoured many nations.
The third beast had four wings, indicating extreme swiftness, and four heads, representing the four leaders or kings who divided the empire among themselves and took power concurrently.
The fourth power is represented by a beast such as is not known on earth, signifying an extremely cruel and powerful empire. Ten horns, or nations, succeed this cruel power, and then the power represented by the little horn with eyes and a mouth arrives on the scene among these other ten nations.
_hAiLO_
Jan 8 2005, 05:11 AM
Why was this moved to the "Metaphysics, Astrology & Psychic Phenomena" forum

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What I think Anit-Christ are anyways are people who are against religion and the devils demons.
Very good post hyuugaNeji

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whoa182
Jan 8 2005, 06:32 AM
I suppose you believe in the tooth fairy too, right?
I dont care about you're god and I do not care about you're anti christ
they are both idiots
Although they make good movies
blazer2004
Jan 8 2005, 07:17 AM
all of you people are dead wrong just like i was anti christ is dead is will be raised from the dead soon and ill give ya a little clue to who he is he was 1 of the 8 beasts
SilverCougar
Jan 8 2005, 07:35 AM
Yeah... ok Blazer...
blazer2004
Jan 8 2005, 07:39 AM
im for real go read the sign book it came out in the 90s it talks about the 8 beasts
Gmac1000
Jan 8 2005, 07:43 AM
QUOTE(whoa182 @ Jan 8 2005, 06:32 AM)
I suppose you believe in the tooth fairy too, right?
I dont care about you're god and I do not care about you're anti christ
they are both idiots
Although they make good movies
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It is extreamly bad luck to denounce ones belief dispite your own feelings, you should really keep them to yourself. This isn't a threat or warning but more of a survival tip, I've been there and whether there real or not, peoples combined beliefs are much stronger that you think.
Insight
Jan 8 2005, 10:43 AM
You guys are all fools.
*laughs*
SilverCougar
Jan 8 2005, 10:44 AM
QUOTE(Insight @ Jan 8 2005, 10:43 AM)
You guys are all fools.
*laughs*
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Care to inlighten us... oh "insightful" one?
panther10758
Jan 8 2005, 05:20 PM
No there is NOT three AntiChrist! However there are two other associated with AntiChrist one is a"False Prophet" and I cannot recall name of other so that maybe where poster got 3rd AntiChrist! Perhaps someone can pull up "Revelations" with correct answer
Richdog
Jan 8 2005, 06:07 PM
QUOTE(SilverCougar @ Jan 8 2005, 11:44 AM)
QUOTE(Insight @ Jan 8 2005, 10:43 AM)
You guys are all fools.
*laughs*
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Care to inlighten us... oh "insightful" one?
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Insight knows nothing more than anyone else, like all of the religious people and conspiracy theorists, he just thinks he does. Though he will obviously disagree, lol. I have never seen him post anything that makes me think anything to the contrary though. Just his own ideas and beliefs, much like the others on here. The difference he is more intelligent and can debate far better than most.
hyuugaNeji
Jan 8 2005, 08:10 PM
the antichrist is the pope of rome
The Skeptic Eric Raven
Jan 8 2005, 08:15 PM
I want to know how some people on this board get away with calling names and such, when I get dogged by moderators for saying someones post is irrational. Not very fair.
panther10758
Jan 8 2005, 08:17 PM
Whether thats true or not I dont know but this isnt the place to take that question I would go to Mods directly no use thread!
The Skeptic Eric Raven
Jan 8 2005, 08:20 PM
I bring it up because this thread has turned to name calling.
panther10758
Jan 8 2005, 08:25 PM
Use the "report" tab then dont take your complaint here it isnt topic related!
crazy_boy
Jan 8 2005, 08:26 PM
one word.....BUSH
hyuugaNeji
Jan 8 2005, 08:43 PM
the pope of rome is definately the antichrist as described in revelation and daniel.
"If any man sin, we have an advocate with the father, Jesus Christ the righteous." 1 John 2:1, last part. not some preist in a confession.
blazer2004
Jan 8 2005, 09:40 PM
hitler is the anti christ and he will be raised from the dead he was the 4th beast out of the the 8
FrostWarrior
Jan 8 2005, 09:42 PM
wtf? and all this time i thought hitler was human. XD
Hotoke
Jan 8 2005, 10:13 PM
QUOTE
hitler is the anti christ and he will be raised from the dead he was the 4th beast out of the the 8
i am the 7th beats. they call me the almighty bunghole
blazer2004
Jan 8 2005, 10:41 PM
oh please you dont even know what the 8 beasts are about hotoke
Hotoke
Jan 8 2005, 10:44 PM
QUOTE(blazer2004 @ Jan 9 2005, 12:41 AM)
oh please you dont even know what the 8 beasts are about hotoke
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you dont even know they existed
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