Program on channel 4 right now questioning beliefs of people, including paranormal things such as being psychic and remote viewing and religion.

Ames x

Man that was good.
Derron is the best at what he does,his methods of suggestion/hypnotism are amazing.His ideas are all new and id'e class him as the best mentalist magician ever!
His ideas are so fresh even most members of the magic circle are amazed at his skills.

I missed it!!! Noooooo!!!

Please tell me it's repeating?!?!? PLZ?!?!!?

It probably will at sometime.

I agree it was well good, I thought it was freaky how he got the things about the dead people right, but I thought when he managed to convert everybody into Christianity was funny cos it made me think about all those people that believe in paranormal activity and things like that, and whether it's all down to the power of suggestion, which i suspects it all is!

Ames x

I guess I should have out sleep of for a few hours then. Anyone has a torrent of the show?

I love Derren Brown. I can't be-reave i've missed this.

Its repeated on E4, 9pm, Wed.12th.
WATCH IT!!!!!!!!!

You guys get all of the 'good' shows over there in Europe I guess, they don't like that type of program here in th U.S.A. ). Anyone know if it shows here ?
P.S. I also LOVE Canadian T.V. , The Red, Green Show (may have the name wrong) rules

thanks for the tip

I didn't see this but I caught a bit of the fake seance he performed earlier in the year. A lot of sceptics claim he proves that belief in the paranormal is all down to suggestion, fraud etc and granted some people are gullible and willing to believe anything but he doesn't provide the answers he practices illusion and without any kind of scientific scrutiny or controls whatsoever unlike some paranormal abilitities which have been scrupulously tested and still remain unexplained.

I agree,I bet the sceptics love him.
Although his "tricks" are all just mentalist tricks alot of them are so complicated and far out that some are unexplainable and only a top trained brain surgeon/pschologist could explain how alot of his tricks work.
Eg-He performs a trick called the old witch doctor which can make someone mind go totally blank.He performs this on a train to make people forget what station to get off at.
The method is explained in books,(Luke Jermays Building Blocks,Kenton Kepper) but the actual reason why it works is unexplainable and almost paranormal in itself.

I thought that was down to hypnosis. He did something similar to a cabbie who literally couldn't see the London Eye right opposite him.

Yeah,he used "the old witch doctor" for the cabbie to forget what the London Eye
was or looked like,its a form of hypnosis but more complicated,using powerful suggestion techniques and certain hand motions.
I saw him perform live and he could put people under by just a wave of his hand in front of them without any pre hypnosis,it was weird.

The witch doctor one was impressive but what really confuses me is how he got a woman to get another woman to stop, turn around and look at her when she was high up in a building. He was asked in a chat room how he did it and he said he couldn't remember. I though that was kind of odd.

I liked it when he convinced the bookie that he had a winning ticket and got money even though she ran it through the computer 3 or 4 times. And where he beat the chess grand masters.

The one that freaked me out was when he appeared to be invisable in front of that dude,and that losing/winning ticket at the dogs was great.
There must be some sort of pre hypnosis to implant these things in peoples heads but he does it such a way you dont actually realise he's doing it.
How on earth he got to see that womans dreams is anyones guess?

There is a way of hypnotising someone by just shaking there hand in a greeting but when your under your in like a zombie state,he can put people under yet they function normally and he must use suggestion to implant and change there normal brain activity without them knowing. somehow???

He narrates most of this during the show although I always wondered about the sleeping phone call.

They're all plants. The only easily influenced people here are the ones who buy into this magician nonsense.

Nah man,ive seen him do this stuff to total random people,on stage he uses balls and frisbees thrown about to select them.
Its all real.Tricks like these are possible but require alof of confidence and training,Derrens the best at this type of stuff but there are others who can also pull off tricks abit like Derrens.Luke Jermay,Andy Nyman.I think he uses a Becker and Earl trick to do a book test.
He uses hypnotism alot aswell,combined with standard magic tricks to create really freaky sh**!

How naive! As a mentalist myself, I can tell you that the stuff Derron does goes way beyond mere "magic tricks". Anyone can make a card disappear but not everyone can convince someone they can't move. The tequniques he uses are much more advanced, he uses Neuro Linguistic Programming alot. I bet he spent years perfecting it. He also throws in alot of red-herrings for us magicians to catch us out and also to convince people that he is actually hypnotising them when when what he is really doing is revealing the possibilities of suggestion to alter the victims state of mind and brain viewpoints. The channel 4 website, although good, does not reveal anything that couldn't be guessed at though. To learn exactly what he was doing, spend £15,000 on a course of NLP and then spend 15 years perfecting it!

Thanks,
Chris

I went to see him live a while back and he definitely doesn't use plants, when he was picking a "victim" he would throw a toy monkey into the audience and then it would be thrown around the audience three times, some of the things he did in that show were awesome, like at the beginning he gave this guy a briefcase to look after, then at the end he bought him back on stage the audience picked a newspaper at random, then a page out of it then a word of one of the two pages, can't remember what it was but it was quite a long word, then he opened the case and that word was written on a huge banner, amazing! He did it all with subliminal messages throughout the show.