I stumbled upon this today. Taken from: http://www.geocities.com/northstarzone/WEEK5.html


Joseph Nasr, THE JERUSALEM POST

The earthquake that struck the Indian Ocean on December 26, triggering a series of huge waves called tsunami, "was possibly" caused by an Indian nuclear experiment in which "Israeli and American nuclear experts participated," an Egyptian weekly magazine reported Thursday.

According to Al-Osboa', India, in its heated nuclear race with Pakistan, has lately received sophisticated nuclear know-how from the United States and Israel, both of which "showed readiness to cooperate with India in experiments to exterminate humankind." Since 1992, the magazine argued, leading geological centers in Britain, Turkey and other countries, warned of the need "not to hold nuclear experiments in the region of the Indian Ocean known as 'the Fire Belt,' in which the epicenter of the earthquake lies.

Geologists labeled that region 'The Fire Belt' for being "a dangerous terrain that can move at anytime, without human intervention," Al-Osboa' wrote.

Despite warnings not to carry out nuclear experiments in and around the 'Fire Belt', "Israel and India continue to conduct nuclear tests in the Indian Ocean, and the United States has recently decided to carry out similar tests in the Australian deserts, which is included in the 'Fire Belt', the Egyptian weekly magazine wrote.

"Last year only, Arab and Islamic states have asked the United States to stop its nuclear activities in that region, and to urge Israel and India to follow suite," Al-Osboa' reported.

Although Al-Osboa' does not rule out the possibility that the tsunami could have been caused by a natural earthquake it speculates however that, "while it has not been proved yet, there has been a joint Israeli-Indian secret nuclear experiment [conducted on December 26] that caused the earthquake."

The Egyptian weekly magazine concludes in its report that "the exchange of nuclear experts between Israel and India, and US pressure on Pakistan which is exerted by supplying India with state-of-the-art nuclear technology and preventing Islamabad from cooperating with Asian and Islamic states in the nuclear field, pose a big question mark on the causes behind the violent Asian earthquake."

I really don't think so, people would have seen the flash, the fallout would be absolutely deadly, not to mention the weather effects. Trust me when someone sets off a nuke you'll know about it.

I agree with BloodAngel...
There definitely would have been more evidence of a nuclear accident in the aftermath that I don't think has shown up...

i agree with Blood Angel and HolyDevil, we live in a small world now..if it was a nuke we would seen the pics on this forum by now!! Also we like to BLAME some one else if it is a natrual thing

I agree. I thought it was a tad bit proposterous as well. Just thought I should share.

Whats also dubious is that you got it from a geocities site - not exactly the most reputable source on the net.

I got it from:
http://www.geocities.com/northstarzone/index.html#top
It has tons of conspiracys. Besides, its the only site I know of that has that many of them on it, if any of you have another site like this please send it in my direction.

its not that ridiculous-the technology for deep water drilling is advanced enough to place a nuke deep enough to not be detected-for all we know there could have have been twenty or thirty- the red flag that pops up is the fact that it happened exactly one year to the day after the earthquake in bam,iran which killed 30,000-
tesla stated once that it would be theoretically possible using,what is now referred to as scaler technology,to rip the earth into two-it is very possible that nukes were not even necessary if tesla's technology has been perfected

What happened was a natural event, a natural disaster and natural that people want to blame something else for it. There is no big conspiracy here, nothing untowards, just nature at its most destructive.

NO NUKE WENT OF BECAUSE THAT WOULD POISON THE WATEr AND HERE WOULD BE DEATH FISH EVERYWHERE ALSO THE HAIT OF THE SURVIVORS WOULD FALL OFF


if you look at what happens after a nuke explodes you wll find out that no nuke could have happend overthere

to think that YOU "know" exactly what would happen is preposterous-i dont think you are aware of the enormous pressures at the bottom of the sea-drilling beneath this would only multiply them-if you had read the post you would have noticed that i stated there are other technologies that could have been used-the true nature of scaler technology is more than likely an extremely well kept secret-but i decided to include a little information to educate you on the nature of thermonuclear weopons in the 21rst century -you can also search "neutron bomb"
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hydrogen bomb

hydrogen bomb or H-bomb,weapon deriving a large portion of its energy from the nuclear fusion of hydrogen isotopes. In an atomic bomb, uranium or plutonium is split into lighter elements that together weigh less than the original atoms, the remainder of the mass appearing as energy. Unlike this fission bomb, the hydrogen bomb functions by the fusion, or joining together, of lighter elements into heavier elements. The end product again weighs less than its components, the difference once more appearing as energy. Because extremely high temperatures are required in order to initiate fusion reactions, the hydrogen bomb is also known as a thermonuclear bomb.

The first thermonuclear bomb was exploded in 1952 at Enewetak by the United States, the second in 1953 by Russia (then the USSR). Great Britain, France, and China have also exploded thermonuclear bombs, and these five nations comprise the so-called nuclear club—nations that have the capability to produce nuclear weapons and admit to maintaining an inventory of them. The three smaller Soviet successor states that inherited nuclear arsenals (Ukraine, Kazakhstan, and Belarus) relinquished all nuclear warheads, which have been removed to Russia. Several other nations either have tested thermonuclear devices or claim to have the capability to produce them, but officially state that they do not maintain a stockpile of such weapons; among these are India, Israel, and Pakistan. South Africa's apartheid regime built six nuclear bombs but dismantled them later.

The presumable structure of a thermonuclear bomb is as follows: at its center is an atomic bomb; surrounding it is a layer of lithium deuteride (a compound of lithium and deuterium, the isotope of hydrogen with mass number 2); around it is a tamper, a thick outer layer, frequently of fissionable material, that holds the contents together in order to obtain a larger explosion. Neutrons from the atomic explosion cause the lithium to fission into helium, tritium (the isotope of hydrogen with mass number 3), and energy. The atomic explosion also supplies the temperatures needed for the subsequent fusion of deuterium with tritium, and of tritium with tritium (50,000,000°C and 400,000,000°C, respectively). Enough neutrons are produced in the fusion reactions to produce further fission in the core and to initiate fission in the tamper.

Since the fusion reaction produces mostly neutrons and very little that is radioactive, the concept of a “clean” bomb has resulted: one having a small atomic trigger, a less fissionable tamper, and therefore less radioactive fallout. Carrying this progression further would result in the suggested neutron bomb,. which would have a minimum trigger and a nonfissionable tamper; there would be blast effects and a hail of lethal neutrons but almost no radioactive fallout; this theoretically would cause minimal physical damage to buildings and equipment but kill most living things. The theorized cobalt bomb. is, on the contrary, a radioactively “dirty” bomb having a cobalt tamper. Instead of generating additional explosive force from fission of the uranium, the cobalt is transmuted into cobalt-60, which has a half-life of 5.26 years and produces energetic (and thus penetrating) gamma rays. The half-life of Co-60 is just long enough so that airborne particles will settle and coat the earth's surface before significant decay has occurred, thus making it impractical to hide in shelters. This prompted physicist Leo Szilard to call it a “doomsday device” since it was capable of wiping out life on earth.

http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/history/A0824719.html

A nuke Can not creat a wave that will reach Africa, thats a near impossibilty. And if there was a Nuke, there are many places around the world which messure Nuclear activity, and Nuclear blasts are diffrenct from earch quakes. The Earth Quake happend in a place were there is a falt line and some minor earch quakes.

Not everything is a comspericy, though there are the few things in the world that are man made, and there will be other things.

In the next few hundred years a massive (1/2 a trillion tuns) peice of land will slide off into the Ocean from one of the Canary islands (Cant remember which one) it will creat a massive Mega Tsunami, at first the wave will messure over 600 meters tall, and move accross the Atlantic Ocean, to hit the Carribean, and the East Coast of Canada and the UNited states, traviling 24 km inland. litteraly whiping out the Great Citys of the East Coast.

And im sure that future conspericy theorist will blame that on the government of the time.

Come on guys this was a natural Dissaster, not a man made one.

~Thanato

Sunofone, is your whole life based on believing conspiracy theories. I ask this in all seriousness. It seems you believe everyone out there. It seems believing in all those would be a depressing way to live.

Scientists in USA saw tsunami coming


Minutes after a massive earthquake rocked the Indian Ocean on Sunday, international ocean monitors knew that a tsunami would likely follow. But they didn't know whom to tell.

We put out a bulletin within 20 minutes, technically as fast as we could do it," says Jeff LaDouce of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. LaDouce says e-mails were dispatched to Indonesian officials, but he doesn't know what happened to the information.

The problem is that Sunday's earthquake struck the unmonitored Indian Ocean. An international system of buoys and monitoring stations - the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center based in Hawaii - spans the Pacific, alerting nations there to any oncoming disasters. But no such system guards the Indian Ocean.


(There isn't one in the Atlantic Ocean because there are comparatively few earthquakes there. LaDouce says efforts are being made in the Caribbean to set up a warning system after last year's tsunami caused by the volcanic collapse on the island of Montserrat.)


"Sumatra has an ample history of great earthquakes, which makes the lack of a tsunami warning system in the Indian Ocean all the more tragic," says geologist Brian Atwater of the U.S. Geological Survey Everyone knew Sumatra was a loaded gun."

On Monday, Asian government officials, notably in India, discussed plans to coordinate efforts to develop an Indian Ocean system. "It's a people problem, not a technology problem," says geophysicist Teng-fong Wong of the State University of New York-Stony Brook. "Governments just have to cooperate."


In fact, the detector buoys that monitor tsunami surges have been available for decades. They record water heights and send measurements throughout the Pacific network. False alarms are a concern, slowing the speed with which bulletins can be released. A 1986 false alarm in Hawaii cost more than $30 million in evacuation costs.


LaDouce notes that warnings are of little use without evacuation plans, given how quickly a tsunami can travel. Tsunami waves struck Sumatra minutes after the quake and hit Thailand within an hour.


"Even if you give the tourist resorts in Thailand a half-hour's notice, it is no easy matter to evacuate vast swaths of coastland," he says. "You have to plan and train people. And then do it all over again



http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...awtsunamicoming

This is impossible, and anyone who read even the slightest thing about how nukes work will know it.
First, no nuke in the world is capable of creating an earth quake of the 9 magnitude on the richter scale - it's impossible.
The largest nuke ever created, the Tzar Bomba, tested once by the Russians some 40 years ago, was about 50 megaton nuke - and even that couldn't even come close to the amount of energy that was needed to create such an earthquake.
Second, there are no drilling tools powerfull enough to go that deep (the ocean floor is about 5km deep), drill a hole deep enough so the explosion will not just lift the earth, etc.
Third, such a powerfull explosion, not to so say - an under water explosion, would be visible from a far distance. For example, the Tzar Bomba created a mushroom cloud about 10km high, and was visible some 1,000km from the blast zone. Air is a bad conductor of shock waves and heat, compare to water. Any under water explosion will produce a much more violent explosion then an one above ground will.

And last, but not least, I heard some two days after the explosion that the amount of energy that the earth quake released was equall to some 1 million atomic bombs going off at the same time... this is well above anything any country has or could ever produce !

Face it pals, nature still is much more powerfull than we are .

i dont believe in aliens-i do believe man is extremely clever and that accepting everything as it is presented is not rational-if seeking the truth is depressing to you then maybe you need to question your values-only succesful psy-op victims are depressed-imo the truth is exhilerating and inspiring-your response is a sad one indeed but is a reflection of the level of control and fear that can be imposed on the weak-your probably a christian

No I am agnostic, but are you saying being Christian is a bad thing. If so, that comes off a bit obnoxious. I believe in proof and hard facts not incessant ramblings. I don't believe everything said by our govt. but it sounds like you believe everything you read off of a conspiracy website. Who sounds the most gullable?Oh I forgot, what about that reptile conspiracy you brought up a month ago.?

originally,all i said is that it was not that ridiculous-i believe most humans are good people no matter what they believe but the christians are definietly leaning towards the gullible side-as the life of a muslim was somehow transformed into an allegorical rendition of the sun (through death and ressurection)and at the same time accepting morbid symbology as everyday rituals-eating his flesh and drinking his blood is nothing less than cannibalism and vampirism and the pope parading around with a bloody corpse on a cross as a "reminder" of what?does it matter isnt that idolatry?sooo many contradictions within the christian dogma-i brought up no reptile conspiracy you have me confused with someone else

There is a difference between seeking the truth in somethnig legitimate and seeking the "truth" in every damn place you see fit, whether there is truth to be uncovered or not.

You are completely typical of your run-of-the-mill incompetent consipracy theorist... you think that you are possessed of priveleged information, and inyour arrogance you think that this makes you superior to others, hence the last sentence you typed:

"your response is a sad one indeed but is a reflection of the level of control and fear that can be imposed on the weak-your probably a christian"

In other words, you are a complete idiot, and very likely not to be taken seriously. If you want to learn how to be a better conspiracy theorist go see Insight and get some lessons, he's a few grades above you.

Well, I don't think an atomic blast caused the tsunami ( to get back on topic ) because even if the proverbial blast was detonated under water, there would be evidence of such an event. Furthermore, I will say it's a bit disrespectful to the victims in Asia for people to assume and stand by a theory like this. That's just my opinion though.

ok so what you are saying is that you or insight are the sole possesors of truth or are the only ones who know where to look?



well the fact that i dont believe in aliens makes this statement completely bogus as 70% of people on this forum do believe in aliens-not so "run of the mill" i would say



hahaha lol -anger is a sign of frustration and it seems that something i said frustrated you-the way you have quoted insight,in your signature,twice concerning religious dogma signals to me that it was the truth about the christian religion that upset you-i hate to burst your bubble but the bitter taste in your mouth comes from the lies that you cling so dearly to concerning your faith in the bogus mind control fiction that is christianity-i would never take lessons from someone who is obviously,if your qoutes are accurate, lost and has wasted too much time reading the bible rather than searching for truth-you are as transparent as the dogma you have been duped by-expel the filters from your mind and maybe you will understand the truth in what i commented upon-to be honest i dont think it was nuclear technology that caused the tsunami,although i dont think it is completely out of the question, imo it very well could have been natural but the timing has me contimplating the use of tesla technology which is where the conspiracy comes into play here- i hope you dont try to put words in my mouth the way raven did but it may be the only way for you to discredit me ps-note that i did not resort to "mindless" name calling

Surely if a nuclear blast had occured, it would have been seen by the satalites??

If it were an explosion huge enough to cause tsunami's there would have been a massive mushroom cloud and the water would have been dispersed upwards as well as outwards.

In my opinion this terrible disaster was 100% natural, 100% terrifying and 100% heartbreaking.

Mog.

what kind of evidence would have been left if they were using underwater drilling techniques that allowed them to place a nuke a hundred feet beneath the bottom of the ocean? "disrespect" imo is not investigating the event to the fullest extent-just because a majority of the people are unaware of tesla and the theories he proposed doesnt mean that they are fruitless-i take his theories very seriously and if he is quoted as saying that it is technically possible to rip the earth into two-then i have to accept the possibilty of a technology that can create earthquakes or manipulate the weather and people who posses them-if you take the two biggest global catastrophes(rated by death tolls) in the last two years you would find that they occured on the same day one year apart and in my book this is cause for concern-That's just my opinion though.

Sunofone, do you realize how you sound? How far out there you are? If you don't then maybe you need to talk to someone. I say this as one human being to another. Maybe you need some help and I am not saying this to be nasty.

I can only assume you have a brain the size of a small water-biscuit. I said nothing of the sort, your comprehension skills are at fault I fear...

And my post wasn't angry or frustrated, it was perfectly clear. And for the record, you don't have to believe in aliens to be a conspiracy theorist, this should be obvious.

Just a few observations.

1, If there was a device placed underwater/drilled into the sea bed, there would have been evidence of such activities for months/years prior to the quake.

2. The area is known for being an active earthquake zone, as it is in the center of the Asian ring of fire.

3. There had been a few minor pre-shocks in the weeks leading to the big one. Most of these minor quakes were less than 3.0, not usually felt by humans, but strong enough to be recorded by electronic devices.

4. Why would the U.S. and Israel want to destroy poverty laden fishing villages? and only kill a 150,000 or so when it could drop a nuke kill a few million and then blame it on some radical group?

5. Some of the hypothesis sounds like the Steven Segal movie -Dark Territory. Cant remember the actual name.

6. According to Islamic clerics, it was the will of god to punish those who have failed to follow the teaching of Allah.

7. Could it be that there was a 9.2 quake that caused a tsunami?

Nature can be a cruel sadistic b****h as the quake & tsunami shows!

Also if they were secretley testing advanced nukes dont you think they would have checked out the test site for possible problems, like say causing a huge quake and tsunami killing 150,000+ people, which would have caused a lot of unwanted attention.



A drunk in a bar told them.

Let me start this post by stating I am not an expert on nuclear devices and the seismic effects they cause upon detonation. Having said that, I don't think a nuclear device would have the power to set off an earth quake. I may be wrong on that assumption but I don't believe I am in error. It would be like aiming a household fan at a passing car in an attempt to blow it off of the road, totally ineffectual.

It is possible in theory. If a device of enough magnitude were placed in a precise location on a fault line. But in reality, it would take years of study to know the exact location to place such a device, and even then, it would have uncertain results.

Because the epicenter was miles offshore, the planting of any type of device would have not have been in line with current known technology, without being noticed, and would have been at best, a crap shoot.

I find it interesting that the U.S. and Israel are to blame for this somehow.

somehow people blame everything on them

2 and 3 are excellent obsevations-6 seems a bit racist and xtreme and 4 is a little redundant when considering the fascist nwo neo cons are all about population reduction and incrimentalism-1 is an opinion and to answer 7 -absolutely!--but the question remains whether or not the quake was natural? could they be testing the capabilities of haarp(the secret uses not the official ones)?starting last year in bam?are there any experts on the subject of haarp?official and conspiracy theories

ive never stated i support the nuclear detonation theory-every comment i made merely questioned the plausibilty or speculated a tangent-the most outrageous ideas proposed was the speculation that tesla's technology had been perfected and tested but isnt that what having an open mind and a conspiracy forum discussion is all about?you need to add something constructive or move on-

well there are a number of sites that host free chess sessions-you can sign up,if havent already,and we can find out if your brain is even smaller than mine



another assumption

It is neither. I was stating what a Iman in Banda Aceh said to a group of Muslims during morning prayer, and quoted in Al-Jazzera website.



If nwo neocons are for population reduction, why are they against abortion?



Yes it is an opinion. A well researched opinion of current techno abilities of underwater drilling and weapons testing.

To each his own theory.

Stop with the personal attacks on each other. Either post on the topic at hand or not at all. There is no need for the personal comments that I have been reading and the digs that you have been taking at each other in this thread.

This is the last friendly warning. If you choose to ignore my friendly request I can very easily make it official.

heres an interesting quote and article-they point out the coincidence of the event occuring after india refused to join the exclusive "club of four"
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"Others are engaging even in an eco type of terrorism, whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes or volcanos remotely, through the use of electromagnetic waves." American Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen, April 1997.
Big surprise! Presumably Cohen already knew that a nuclear weapon generates what he refers to obliquely as "electromagnetic waves"

Did New York Orchestrate The Asian Tsunami?

With Afghanistan and Iraq already lost, the Wall Street bankers were all desperately looking for other ways to control our world, when suddenly and very conveniently, the Sumatran Trench exploded. Trick or Treat?


Despite a natural human tendency to be shocked into silence by the sheer number of dead and injured across Asia on 26 December 2004, and despite also being slightly fearful of losing personal credibility because of the magnitude of the apparent crime, there are many provable irregularities in the official American tsunami story that simply have to be recorded now, or forever be lost in the sands of time.

It is beyond any doubt that a giant tidal wave (tsunami) smashed its way through South and South East Asia, and still had enough legs to continue all the way across the Indian Ocean to Africa, where it killed and injured a few hundred more. So the only question we must ask, is whether this tsunami was a natural or man-made catastrophe? A natural event would be horrifying enough, but if the tsunami was man-made, then we are unquestionably looking at the biggest single war crime in global history.

To make any sense at all of the irregularities, we must start at the very beginning, and then follow the course of events as they unfold, especially events in the immediate vicinity of the real tsunami epicenter, because the latter is quite different from the location being remorselessly peddled by the New York Times and CNN.

At midday local Australian time I faithfully recorded the magnitude and position plotted by the Jakarta Geophysical Office in Indonesia. An earthquake measuring 6.4 on the Richter scale had hit the north of the Indonesian island of Sumatra. The Jakarta Geophysical Office meticulously noted that the epicenter of the event was located 155 miles south-southwest of Aceh Province.

This location is approximately 250 miles south of the position later selected by the American NOAA, which plotted the epicenter to the north-west of Aceh, and initially claimed a Richter reading of 8.0. Alas, even that was not enough to cover the damage caused by this extraordinary event, so NOAA progressively upgraded the reading to 8.5, then to 8.9, and finally to 9.0 - at least for the present.

So, the first proven irregularities were peddled by American officials at the NOAA, who suddenly invented a new 'flexible' peak seismic wave for the event, of far greater magnitude than Jakarta, when the Jakarta office was located much closer at almost point-blank range. Believe me when I tell you there is no such thing as the new 'flexible' peak claimed by NOAA. The first seismic peak you record is the only real peak, unless of course you later manually draw in a few more peaks of your own, to match a contrived agenda. Naturally there is also only one epicenter, which was faithfully recorded by dozens of Indonesian and Indian seismographs.

Quite apart from the huge disparity in Richter values, the Indonesians and Indians were disturbed to find that the normal earthquake 'preamble' was missing from their seismograph charts. All this means is that the normal steadily increasing number of transverse shear "S" waves that always precede an earthquake were missing, as were later aftershocks, which likewise always accompany a naturally occurring or Tesla standing-wave generated earthquake. There were 'warnings' of aftershocks from the NOAA, but none actually eventuated.

To simplify matters for non-technical readers, an earthquake is always triggered by a resonant electromagnetic frequency in the range 0.5 to 12 Hertz, but it is not an instant process, because the resonant frequency must be precise. Thus as true resonance approaches, the fault line starts to tremble like a piece of rope under tension, and sends out warnings to the seismographs in the form of steadily increasing transverse shear waves.

If all you get is a cluster of "P" compression waves, then you are almost certainly looking at an underground or sub sea explosion. These were in fact the only copious seismic signals that the Indonesians and Indians received, and they looked curiously similar to those generated many years ago by large underground nuclear weapons in Nevada

The Indian Government knew full well that this was not a "normal" earthquake. On 27 December India refused to join George Bush's planned exclusive 'club of four', which would have effectively pulled this Asian nuclear power out of its new coalition with Russia, China and Brazil. On 28 December the Indian Government politely warned the American military to stay clear of Indian sovereign territory, and on 29 December the India Daily Editorial publicly questioned the nature of the event: "Was this a showdown by a country to show the region what havoc can be created?" ... "Given the level of devastation and given the fact India is a regional power in South Asia, [the] Indian Navy has an obligation to investigate and tell the world what they found."

We will return later to the relatively simple task of delivering a multi-megaton thermonuclear weapon to the bottom of the Sumatran Trench, and then detonating it with awesome effect, but right now we need to return to our initial task of following the trail of events and inexplicable irregularities. First we must travel south to the distant desert island of Australia, currently ruled by an obsequious Wall Street toady known as Little Johnny Howard. To the intense displeasure of many of his Australian "subjects", Little Johnny never makes a move outside Australia unless he first receives explicit instructions from one of his New York minders. Remember this reality, because it is extremely important in terms of what Australia did next.


Theoretically, the American 9 megaton W-53 thermonuclear warhead shown on the left, could easily be encased in a small 'lookalike' saturation diving chamber similar to that on the right, to protect it from the massive 10,000 pounds per square inch pressures at the bottom of the Sumatran Trench. The whole armored package would weigh less than five tons, allowing it to be slipped over the stern of any oil rig supply vessel, of which there are more than 300 in Asia alone. Who would even notice?

I will be circumspect as to exactly how a large American thermonuclear weapon managed to arrive at the bottom of the Sumatran Trench, though all of the seismic evidence and preparedness for the resulting mission indicates strongly that this is the case. After all, we are back to the age-old question of "who benefits?", and in this particular case, "Who is insane enough to kill more than 150,000 civilians just to hang on to power?' Based on their past performance in Iraq and other luckless countries, it would seem that the only realistic candidates are Wolfowitz and company, striving as always to create a "One World Government".

Certainly no other nuclear powers including Russia and China stand to gain anything at all from such an outrageous mass murder, so, as always in the end, we come back to Sherlock Holmes via the pen of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle: "When you have ruled out the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, is the truth."

For the Zionist Cabal, obtaining a thermonuclear weapon in America is no great trick, especially when we have the precedent of 100 small 'decommissioned' air-to-air atomic warheads being smuggled out the Pentagon's (civilian) back door, to form the core of the Jewish State's current nuclear arsenal. Once a weapon system is out date and out of service, loyal uniformed US military personnel can no longer track it.

Those who wish to understand how such a seemingly small weapon could rattle a 20,000 feet-deep oceanic trench, and then force a giant tsunami right across the Indian Ocean, would do well to look at the diagram of the famous 'Dambusters' attacking the German dam below, most of which is self-explanatory.

The designer of the RAF's bouncing bomb (actually called "Highball") was a scientist called Barnes Wallace, who had already gained a formidable reputation with his Wellington bomber, which he constructed geodetically, thus enabling it to absorb enormous punishment before actually being shot out of the sky. Many Wellington returned to base literally in tatters, while many luckless cousins like the Stirling and Halifax were all too often consigned to the murky deep of the North Sea.

Wallace knew that bombing the dams vertically was a complete waste of time, and the only possibility of success lay in placing a mine hard up against the dam wall at its base. You see, water cannot be compressed, meaning that if the mine was pressed against the dam wall at the moment of detonation, part of its energy would automatically be expended on the wall itself. Too far away in the relatively shallow water, and most of the blast energy would be lost to atmosphere, in a huge exploding cloud of water of course.

Though it was obvious that the dam wall could not be destroyed by a single bomb from a single Lancaster bomber (it would weight far too much for the aircraft to get off the ground), Wallace pinned his hopes on the scientific fact that cumulative stress should do the job, and he was proved right. Though officially three of the bombs, each containing 6,500 pounds of TNT, were considered to be direct hits, one of these veered off slightly, meaning that the giant Mohne Dam was completely breached by a total of 13,000 pounds of tri-nitro toluene.

It is the incompressibility of water in particular that matters deep down in the Sumatran Trench. At the bottom you already have 10,000 pounds of pressure per square inch pressing down on your weapon of choice, and above that weapon there is a column of water 20,000 feet tall, which is what caused the pressure in the first place. Not only that. The trench narrows at the bottom, meaning that the weapon is 'hemmed-in', with a very real chance of moving a tectonic plate if sufficient tonnage is used.


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FPI BREAKING NEWS

BRAVE NEW WORLD NEWS
Friday, January 07, 2005
1999: Furore over `tidal bomb' claims!
AFP , WELLINGTON

Sunday, Sep 26, 1999

Top secret wartime experiments were conducted off the New Zealand coast to perfect a tidal wave bomb believed to be potentially as effective as the atom bomb, a report said yesterday citing declassified files.

Auckland University professor Thomas Leech set off a series of underwater explosions triggering mini-tidal waves at Whangaparaoa, just north of Auckland, in 1944 and 1945, the New Zealand Herald reported.

His work was considered so significant that US defense chiefs said if the project had been completed before the end of the war it could have played a role as effective as that of the atom bomb.

Details of the tsunami bomb, known as Project Seal, are contained in 53-year-old documents released by the New Zealand Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade.

Papers stamped "top secret" show the US and British military were eager for Seal to be developed in the post-war years too. They even considered sending Leech to Bikini Atoll to view the US nuclear tests and see if they had any application to his work.

He did not make the visit, although a member of the US board of assessors of atomic tests, Dr. Karl Compton, was sent to New Zealand.

"Dr. Compton is impressed with Professor Leech's deductions on the Seal project and is prepared to recommend to the Joint Chiefs of Staff that all technical data from the test relevant to the Seal project should be made available to the New Zealand Government for further study by Professor Leech," said a July 1946 letter from Washington to Wellington.

Leech, who died in his native Australia in 1973, was the university's dean of engineering from 1940 until 1950.

News of his being awarded a CBE in 1947 for research on a weapon led to speculation in newspapers around the world about what was being developed.

Though high-ranking New Zealand and US officers spoke out in support of the research, no details of it were released because the work was on-going.

A former colleague of Leech, Neil Kirton, told the New Zealand Herald that the experiments involved laying a pattern of explosives underwater to create a tsunami.

Small-scale explosions were carried out in the Pacific and off Whangaparaoa, which at the time was controlled by the army.

It is unclear what happened to Project Seal once the final report was forwarded to Wellington Defense Headquarters late in the 1940s.

The bomb was never tested full scale, and Kirton doubts the public would have noticed the trials.

"Whether it could ever be resurrected ... Under some circumstances I think it could be devastating," he said.



http://freepress2005.blogspot.com/2005/01/...omb-claims.html

OK now that does sound suspicious.

But surely if an explosion that measured 9 on the Richter scale did go off to cause this devestating Tsunami, wouldn't it have blown a great big hole in the side of the Earth.

I don't know how explosives work but I understand that putting an explosive so near to the fault line of the Techtonic Plates - the weakest parts of the Earths crust, would probably have caused half the planet to disapear into space.

I am sorry but not everthing is a cover up, sometimes bad things just happen, although the evidence you have found is suspect, I still feel that you will just have to accept that this was just a very nasty natural disaster.

Mog.

and the 2 divers who were diving DURING the tsunami must have seen it

Exactly right. A nuclear explosion of that magnitude at that location would have caused a very, very large sub-surface crater.
But, you have to understand how conspiracy theorists work. They have an answer for everything. In this case, it's a new type of bomb which does not leave a crater. Of course, if you ask them to show proof of such a bomb, they ramble on about secret this, secret that, and vague physics that no one accepts.

That is nuts. Tsunami Bomb, I bet the band likes that kind of exposure.

All this talk of a nuclear bomb is on the right trck but it should be obviouse to conspiriacy theorists by now. If there is a shadow here, which I think there is, we're dealing with a whole new technology which is until now only theoretical. We could be talking about control of the weather or any manner of new types of missiles. The syndicate is the culprit, not an israli nuclear race.

erm, not realy. nukes have been set off under the sea off france before now. there was no fallout and nobody noticed realy. a lot of fish died but that was about it.

i dont believe that a nuke caused the tsunami, but i know for a fact that your comment is wrong.

i think it was and earthquake or a commet. i was talking with my father yesterday and he told me that the spot where the earthquake took place was like 500 ft or miles or something under the water
and the spot raised up a couple of hundred feet after it happend.

more updating-- wow i almost forgot about the secret attack that took a quarter of a million lives!
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'DeadZone' at Tsunami Site
News Brief – January 2006

A ‘Dead Zone’ has been found at the epicentre of the tsunami earthquake, according to scientists.

The area – 4km beneath the surface of the Indian Ocean – has failed to recover from the magnitude 9.3 quake, which killed 270,000 people.

An 11-hour dive at the site found no sign of life around the epicentre, which opened up a 1,000m chasm on the ocean floor.

‘You’d expect a site like this to be quickly re-colonised but that hasn’t happened.
“It is unprecedented,” said Prof Ron O’Dor, from the Dalhousie University in Nova Scotia, who is working on a census of marine life.
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remember "project seal"
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FluffyBunny, may I gently point out that the first person to begin using blatant personal attacks has a little "Moderator" tag after his name?

You dragged up a topic over a year old just to post that?

That Dead Zone article fails to mention that is was a very isolated place and that the suspension of silt made it difficult to even find the bottom:

The first scientific expedition to the epicenter found little or no effect on deep sea fauna except at one site off Sumatra where, five months after the disaster, no evidence was found of large animals.

British scientists taking part in the Census of Marine Life, a worldwide marine survey, made an 11-hour dive with a robot submarine.

In one region nicknamed the "ditch", a 200-yard wide trench where one tectonic plate of the Earth slips under another, they were shocked to find no signs of life.

This was "unprecedented in 25 years of deep-sea sampling", said Prof Paul Tyler of the National Oceanography Centre, University of Southampton. "We tried to sample the sediment but so much was in suspension it was hard to see where the seabed was. The water just got thicker and thicker.

"There were no large animals. I think it is because of the high sediment load that may clog gills or feeding mechanisms."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml.../15/ixhome.html

I would say that article specifically left out the whole truth to be deceptive. As it is unprecedented to find such a place we also have never have taken a marine life census after such an event so we have no precedent to compare it too.

how does the sediment stay in suspension for so long?