You're speaking from experience, I'm sure.

If we do reach the period in time where we can live a really long time, I do not know about
forever at this point, but I was just curious as to how long will women be able to get pregnant
then? I wish they would really hurry up and find out how to do this, otherwise I am not going
to be around to reap the benefits. How many years do they anticipate this would be available to
humans? If it is supposed to be in the 21st century then I am a goner! I would love to look
about 25 and the brain knowledge I have now at my age. I would be satisfied with having my
20 yr old figure back also. In the meantime I will just have to be patient.

Read the quote i made, the one thing i hope to achieve in this life is immortality!


~~~~Im dressed like a ninja ~~~~

-All the more reason to develop nanotechnology. This is the one thing that can eventually save us from all this crap. For instance, advanced technology could predict an earthquake well ahead of time, and nanotechnology could be used to erect an instant seawall in the areas that the quantum supercomputers showed there would be tsunami damage. Even with today's technology people can be evacated before a tsunami hits if given sufficient warning. If earthquakes can be predicted, people near the epicenter can also be evacuated in time. They may not even have to be- build superstrong structures, or strengthen already existing ones with nanotechnology to withstand earthquakes. Even now, much can be done to prevent earthquake deaths. Where I am from, the Pacific Northwest U.S., we had a magnitude 6.9 earthquake a few years back. No a single person died, compared to the thousands of death that would have resulted in another time and place (like Iran, Armenia, Turkey).

For asteroids, nanotechnology will allow for advanced spacefaring technology, and we could easitly nudge an asteroid on a different course if it is known well enough in advance that it is on a collision course with earth. These are just some of the many potenitial benefits that could really allow technology to have unprecedented control over even the most powerful forces of nature.

immortality? no thanks I don't want to live forever being bored as hell in the end.
And i hope nobody else will ever be as it might be a disaster in the wrong hands
Vote: other

http://www.radio4all.net/proginfo.php?id=7610
He only talks for 20 minutes on this issue

please listen to this , Right click on HTTP or FTP and save target as


You're view is quite common and is stupid.

please listen to that, and then see if you still feel the same



I value life, I want to live how ever long I want. Life is good ( for me ) I have many things to explore. mabey I want to be a pilot for 20 years, them mabey I want to do another career for another 50 years...

I also have many hobbies that I would like to try out. There is not enough time

With life extension I can have many careers.

How can you say that you will be bored? Is there a limited amount of fun in the universe?

The world is gonna end soon. If humans were supposed to live forever, then God would have let us.

then we should die at around 30-40 years old...
gods way n all..



We have already extended human life span by 40 years this century.

True. But isnt that just evolution? It says something in the Bible about how long you are allowed to live, but i forget it

I saw a cosmology program and they explained that our brain is at the peak of intelligence and physical status. for example if we got anymore intelligent, we will become slower. So human evolution might have stopped, the only thing that is increasing is our culture,

I believe it was 120 years. But the oldest living person recorded was 122 years old.

But I would bet my life on it that the first person to live past 122 will be within 10-20 years time

There was a comology program I seen called " what we still dont know "

anyway, it might be the same program you are talking about. So yes you are correct... but then we will inevitibly move into non-biological or biological/silicon form at some point.

Mabey we'll see the first super human this century or mabey another Intelligence all together...

we cannot explore any further than we have without altering humans in some way. WE HAVE TO DO IT!

when i get older i want some thing to re activate my youth so i can be a
100 years old and look 25. Then id hit on all the girls with my old pick up lines and theyd work cuz nobody would have heard them in a 100 years. Plus id be stylen but all my old clothes would be the new in fad thing. oooooooooh yyeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!.

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i would love to live forever.

Yeah, i think thats right. I would be surprised if it wasnt sooner, though.

NO!!! It would be torture!!... stuck living the rest of your life... i mean you get bored by the time the average person dies and somtimes WAY before... why would you wanna live FOREVER???? thats a long time..

1) The world is changing rapidly and will continue to do so far more than it has already. Meaning there will be many things to keep you happy and not bored. You're life now wont be the same as it is in 10-20 years time. It will most likely be VERY different.

2) Is there a certain amount of fun you can have? have you explored all areas of fun?, have we seen the rest of the universe? has everything been invented and theres nothing left to be invented or discovered?

3) Wouldnt you want to try out a few different careers? Or travel all around the world and mabey live in each country for a few years instead of taking a 2 week holiday

4) you could try out many hobbies/sports etc.. you could try and do different types of martial arts and spend 50 years on each one of them.. you become a master in all of them.

5) Is the universe that small for you? there is plenty to see!


Mabey you dont like the idea because you think that the world is going to stay the same. its not, its going to be different, i mean VERY different in the future. Especially with new exciting techhnologies around the corner than could change things for EVERY PERSON ON THIS PLANET.

Nanotechnology, Probably 1 of the most promising technology ever. This can change the world beyond recognition. I want to see the future, I have many things to explore, 80 years is crap, and its nowhere near enough time!.


Look, I'll post this link again, Id really like it if you could listen to it for just 20 minutes!, its an mp3

PLAY: A Theory of Fun - A talk given by Eliezer
http://www.radio4all.net/proginfo.php?id=7610

Take a listen to this, Right click and ' Save target as ' on FTP or HTTP link on that webpage

Or go here http://www.radio4all.net/dl.php/0816yudkow...6&protocol=ftp&

Its only a few mb, he starts talking around after 1 minute... its caled " the theory of fun " and it answeres what you just commented about. I hope it changes is your mind. or even OPENS your mind to possibilities

Very good points whoa182

I for one would love to live forever..after all theres so much i want to do and so little time to do it in

i would love to live for 300 years guranteed with life insurance.

I say lets make Heaven on earth



or space.. lol

Singularity Fun Theory
Jan 25, 2002

How much fun is there in the universe?
What is the relation of available fun to intelligence?
What kind of emotional architecture is necessary to have fun?
Will eternal life be boring?
Will we ever run out of fun?

To answer questions like these... requires Singularity Fun Theory.

Does it require an exponentially greater amount of intelligence (computation) to create a linear increase in fun?
Is self-awareness or self-modification incompatible with fun?
Is (ahem) "the uncontrollability of emotions part of their essential charm"?
Is "blissing out" your pleasure center the highest form of existence?
Is artificial danger (risk) necessary for a transhuman to have fun?
Do you have to yank out your own antisphexishness routines in order not to be bored by eternal life? (I.e., modify yourself so that you have "fun" in spending a thousand years carving table legs, a la "Permutation City".)

Behold! Singularity Fun Theory!

Singularity Fun Theory is in the early stages of development, so please don't expect a full mathematical analysis.
Nonetheless, I would offer for your inspection at least one form of activity which, I argue, really is "fun" as we intuitively understand it, and can be shown to avoid all the classical transhumanist anxieties above. It is a sufficient rather than a necessary definition, i.e., there may exist other types of fun. However, even a single inexhaustible form of unproblematic fun is enough to avoid the problems above.

The basic domain is that of solving a complex novel problem, where the problem is decomposable into subproblems and sub-subproblems; in other words, a problem possessing complex, multileveled organization.

Our worries about boredom in autopotent entities (a term due to Nick Bostrom, denoting total self-awareness and total self-modification) stems from our intuitions about sphexishness (a term due to Douglas Hofstadter, denoting blind repetition; "antisphexishness" is the quality that makes humans bored with blind repetition). On the one hand, we worry that a transhuman will be able to super-generalize and therefore see all problems as basically the "same"; on the other hand we worry that an autopotent transhuman will be able to see the lowest level, on which everything is basically mechanical.

In between, we just basically worry that, over the course of ten thousand or a million years, we'll run out of fun.

What I want to show is that it's possible to build a mental architecture that doesn't run into any of these problems, without this architecture being either "sphexish" or else "blissing out". In other words, I want to show that there is a philosophically acceptable way to have an infinite amount of fun, given infinite time. I also want to show that it doesn't take an exponentially or superexponentially greater amount of computing power for each further increment of fun, as might be the case if each increment required an addition JOOTS (another Hofstadterian term, this one meaning "Jumping Out Of The System").

http://sysopmind.com/essays/funtheory.html

This essay is quite good and asnweres your questions about boredom.
You can read it at that link

I'd like to live until I could do everything I possibly can imagine and still be as young as I am now.

To the average person, the rest of the world would seem like eternity now imagine the universe.

The average person lives and saves money to travel the world, while the rich needs not to save money but to spend it. I mean there are many ways to reach a destination. You can't possibly have done them all within 200 years.

Can We Live to Be 1,000?
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/13.02/view.html?pg=3


Nobody lives forever - but we're about to get a whole lot closer, says Aubrey de Grey, a controversial age theorist and a gene database manager at Cambridge University. In February's issue of the international journal Gerontology, the self-taught scientist argues that recent advances in our understanding of aging may allow today's sixtysomethings to reach their 1,000th birthdays. Wired asked him to explain how mainstream research has veered off course.



WIRED: Your Gerontology piece claims that the current approach to prolonging life - developing drugs that mimic nutrient deprivation - is wrong. How so?
DE GREY: I present a detailed evolutionary argument that caloric restriction in humans will give only a very small increase in lifespan. Starved worms and flies can live many times longer than normal, whereas mice can live only about 40 percent longer and dogs only 10 to 15 percent. We'll get only two to three years from that approach. Better than nothing, but not enough. This is a big deal because the majority of academic-led biotech startups aimed at postponing aging are developing drugs based on caloric restriction.

You think we can actually reverse aging instead of just slow it down?
That's right. The rejuvenation therapies we are on the verge of developing will actually repair cellular damage. The reason I think we're close is that we can describe what aging is in such minute detail, and we can also describe feasible, foreseeable ways of repairing each of those categories of damage that go together to make up aging.

What kind of repairs?
We accumulate various types of indigestible junk in our cells, which leads to things like atherosclerosis [hardening of the arteries] and neurodegeneration. We can fix this by introducing enzymes from soil microbes that can break these things down.

So, can we really live to be 1,000? That sounds more like public relations than biology.
You're right. It is a number plucked out of the air. A thousand years is just a way of explaining that the beneficiaries of first-generation therapies will be in just as good health 30 years later. By then, there will be more comprehensive therapies.

http://www.wired.com/news/medtech/0,1286,6...tw=wn_tophead_6

Never Say Die: Live Forever

Ray Kurzweil doesn't tailgate. A man who plans to live forever doesn't take chances with his health on the highway, or anywhere else.

As part of his daily routine, Kurzweil ingests 250 supplements, eight to 10 glasses of alkaline water and 10 cups of green tea. He also periodically tracks 40 to 50 fitness indicators, down to his "tactile sensitivity." Adjustments are made as needed.

I do actually fine-tune my programming," he said.

The famed inventor and computer scientist is serious about his health because if it fails him he might not live long enough to see humanity achieve immortality, a seismic development he predicts in his new book is no more than 20 years away.

It's a blink of an eye in history, but long enough for the 56-year-old Kurzweil to pay close heed to his fitness. He urges others to do the same in Fantastic Voyage: Live Long Enough to Live Forever. The book is partly a health guide so people can live to benefit from a coming explosion in technology he predicts will make infinite life spans possible.

Kurzweil writes of millions of blood cell-sized robots, which he calls "nanobots," that will keep us forever young by swarming through the body, repairing bones, muscles, arteries and brain cells. Improvements to our genetic coding will be downloaded from the Internet. We won't even need a heart.

The claims are fantastic, but Kurzweil is no crank. He's a recipient of the $500,000 Lemelson-MIT prize, which is billed as a sort of Academy Award for inventors, and he won the 1999 National Medal of Technology Award. He has written on the emergence of intelligent machines in publications ranging from Wired to Time magazine. The Christian Science Monitor has called him a "modern Edison." He was inducted into the Inventors Hall of Fame in 2002. Perhaps the MIT graduate's most famous invention is the first reading machine for the blind that could read any typeface.

During a recent interview in his company offices, Kurzweil sipped green tea and spoke of humanity's coming immortality as if it's as good as done. He sees human intelligence not only conquering its biological limits, including death, but completely mastering the natural world.

"In my view, we are not another animal, subject to nature's whim," he said.

Critics say Kurzweil's predictions of immortality are wild fantasies based on unjustifiable leaps from current technology.

"I'm not calling Ray a quack, but I am calling his message about immortality in line with the claims of other quacks that are out there." said Thomas Perls, a Boston University aging specialist who studies the genetics of centenarians.

Sherwin Nuland, a bioethics professor at Yale University's School of Medicine, calls Kurzweil a "genius" but also says he's a product of a narcissistic age when brilliant people are becoming obsessed with their longevity.

"They've forgotten they're acting on the basic biological fear of death and extinction, and it distorts their rational approach to the human condition," Nuland said.

Kurzweil says his critics often fail to appreciate the exponential nature of technological advance, with knowledge doubling year by year so that amazing progress eventually occurs in short periods.

His predictions, Kurzweil said, are based on carefully constructed scientific models that have proven accurate. For instance, in his 1990 book, The Age of Intelligent Machines, Kurzweil predicted the development of a worldwide computer network and of a computer that could beat a chess champion.

"It's not just guesses," he said. "There's a methodology to this."

Kurzweil has been thinking big ever since he was little. At age 8, he developed a miniature theater in which a robotic device moved the scenery. By 16, the Queens, N.Y., native built his own computer and programmed it to compose original melodies.

His interest in health developed out of concern about his own future. Kurzweil's grandfather and father suffered from heart disease, his father dying when Kurzweil was 22. Kurzweil was diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes in his mid-30s. After insulin treatments were ineffective, Kurzweil devised his own solution, including a drastic cut in fat consumption, allowing him to control his diabetes without insulin.

His rigorous health regimen is not excessive, just effective, he says, adding that his worst sickness in the last several years has been mild nasal congestion.

In the past decade, Kurzweil's interests in technology and health sciences have merged as scientists have discovered similarities.

"All the genes we have, the 20,000 to 30,000 genes, are little software programs," Kurzweil said.

In his latest book, Kurzweil defines what he calls his three bridges to immortality. The "first bridge" is the health regimen he describes with co-author Dr. Terry Grossman to keep people fit enough to cross the "second bridge" a biotechnological revolution.

Kurzweil writes that humanity is on the verge of controlling how genes express themselves and ultimately changing the genes. With such technology, humanity could block disease-causing genes and introduce new ones that would slow or stop the aging process.

The "third bridge" is the nanotechnology and artificial intelligence revolution, which Kurzweil predicts will deliver the nanobots that work like repaving crews in our bloodstreams and brains. These intelligent machines will destroy disease, rebuild organs and obliterate known limits on human intelligence, he believes.

Immortality would leave little standing in current society, in which the inevitability of death is foundational to everything from religion to retirement planning. The planet's natural resources would be greatly stressed, and the social order shaken.

Kurzweil says he believes new technology will emerge to meet increasing human needs. And he said society will be able to control the advances he predicts as long as it makes decisions openly and democratically, without excessive government interference. But there are no guarantees, he adds.

Meanwhile, Kurzweil refuses to concede the inevitably of his own death, even if science doesn't advance as quickly as he predicts.

"Death is a tragedy," a process of suffering that rids the world of its most tested, experienced members -- people whose contributions to science and the arts could only multiply with agelessness, he said. Kurzweil said he's no cheerleader for unlimited scientific progress and added he knows science can't answer questions about why eternal lives are worth living. That's left for philosophers and theologians, he said.

But to him there's no question of huge advances in things that make life worth living, such as art, culture, music and science.

"Biological evolution passed the baton of progress to human cultural and technological development," he said.

Lee Silver, a Princeton biologist, said he'd love to believe in the future as Kurzweil sees it, but the problem is, humans are involved. The instinct to preserve individuality, and to gain advantage for yourself and your children, would survive any breakthrough into biological immortality -- which Silver doesn't think is possible. The gap between the haves and have-nots would widen and Kurzweil's vision of a united humanity would become ever more elusive, he said.

"I think it would require a change in human nature," Silver said, "and I don't think people want to do that."



Well hes wrong, I would consider changing myself with technology, bio-robotic if I have too... but It will be different that most peoples views, The technology will be inside not on the outside, All senses will be enhanced.

Shut up those of you "Immortality is boring". How would you know?! Hmph.
I for one would love to live forever.
Even though I don't see the meaning in life, how ironic is that?

I'd like to stay the same. I wouldn't want to have everyone I know and love die as I kept aging. What I would like is to come back as a ghost

A lot of articles about in the last few days about extending life and immortality.

Heres another one. Looks like MR BUSH has it all wrong...

We been through many debates on whether life extension is a good thing and if people will want it. Well from looking at an article on bbc I thought, well this anti aging thing is alread happening and the cosmetic industry shows us that people desire to look younger and healthier

Looking at the statistics, there is a lot of people looking for anti aging therapies, whether it be a cream, pills or surgery. At the moment it is a lot of hassle to actually make yourself look younger, surgery takes a lot of courage and results are not always perfect. But as technology gets better and cheaper, its quite obvious that we will see massive demand for TRUE anti aging drugs or therapy.

Look at the article

i would like to live longer then the alloted 100 years or less. Life is to short to do what i people want. I want to travil the world and go to mars. and i know i wont be doing that in my aloted life time. So i would rather live for a few more hundred years. But i would not want to live for ever. That is just cheating fait.

~Thanato

living forever would be great if i could stay young the whole time

Can someone explain to me how you will not age?

We can already replicate skin - much like a printer that prints skin, I'm sure these nanobots would be able to make new skin cells, and they would naturally be able to undergo mitosis. Nevermind their ability to combat disease, etc.

I would definatly like to live for a very long time - In this world so much of one's life is stolen by work and stupid things. Think about just being able to get out into the real world. High school education is NOT proficient anymore. That's just 12 years of your life, plus you need to go to college now - +minimum of 4 years if you want a good life - that's 16 years! Then once you get a job, you need to work your way up to getting a decent salary, and even then, americans get an average of ONE WEEK's vacation a year. Think of all the traveling you can do. NOT.

Being able to live years and years longer than currently possible would be great - especially if these nanobots disallow aging. Honestly, you could make your living, invest like it's 1920, then retire. And your money would keep compounding and compounding. So you'd have financial freedom - you could live whereever you want, buy what you want, do what you want. If you wanted to spend an entire year, or even 30 years researching atlantis, or the pyramids, or even building a space vessel, you could, because you'd have made enough money that your investments would give you income, and you'd keep getting richer.

And I know I for one have more than one passion - this technology would give me the time to work in all the fields I love - Music, art, archiology, science, acting, philosophy, writing.

I'd also love to see the new technologies spawn, and Human life on the moon and mars. I'd love to see wormhole technology grasped, so that we can really explore the universe. I'd like to see world peace brought about because of otherworldly beings, or for that matter, anything, I would just love to see world peave. There's so many things I won't be able to see and do, that I would if I could live much longer.

You have some very valid point in your post.

One problem with the 'rate of advancement' is that most of the last 25000 years of evolution has been achieved in the last 1000 and of that 1000 most of it has been achieved in the last 100 and of that the last 50.

Transport, communication and computers are the biggest evolution. From those other advancements such as medicines have flourished.
The problem with the mathematical assumption that we'll advance even faster is that the last few hundred years have been about discovery. Albert einstein only just died after all.
From the industrial revolution in England to the world we have today, we are left with more 'advancement' and less 'discovery' which means that we are all back at the very beggining already. Think about it.

[quote]Whenever the president talks about Social Security, I think about the 5,000-Year-Old Woman. I can see her right now, cruising down some sunny highway in Florida in her convertible Mini Cooper, laughing into the wind.[quote]

Sorry to burst the bubble but I used to work at BMW MINI uk.

The car won't last 10 years let alone 5000!!

i would like to live long but still age becuase i think gorwing old is a natural part of life................and i really wanna be an old coot one day doin nothing yelling at the T.V ahh quite a dream it is!

I think that in order to keep the population under control people with this procedure should only have one child, so the number of people would stay the same within their family. The government might even be more harsh and say no children at all, until you're actually gonna die. WAITTTTTT!!!!!

SPACE TRAVEL!!

If we can go near the speed of light, and live to 5,000 - 1000 years would be like adolecents. Think of how much you learn in a lifetime. Think how much you would learn in 1000. In 3000. And it wouldn't just be proposed knowledge, for years wisen - you actually experience more things other than just reading or studying.


This is TECHNOLOGICAL evolution. If things like this arn't done, IF the robots turn - which I personally think is a product of media - but then again, survival of the fittest... But if they do - advanced technology such as cameras able to see into alternate spectrums, such as ultraviolet, heat, etc. And other "cyborg`abilities" - perhaps advanced learning like on the matrix.

I'm just typing as I'm thinking, I'm not quite sure of the quality of my rantings, I have not stopped to look anything up this post.

Hi,

I do not know why I actually put that option up there to grow old.

Infact, if you look at a person after the age of around 20 years old they are not growing up anymore, they are growing old. They are losing millions of cells - where we should be gaining cells. Through aging comes disease, so you dont die from aging you die from the disease that comes with aging... So heres your problem Neo.

What are you going to do as you get old, Its certain at some point of your life you will develop problems with organs or autoimmune disease.. possibly cancer. Now, these are usuall all AGE associated things, not always.. but you have more risk when you are older because.

So lets picture you ' neo ' walking into a doctors office now at the age of say 70. He offers you a some pain relievers and let you die within months possibly or a Cure for all your problems and you will feel like a 20 year old again.

So if you really look at it with some sense, This is likely going to be a scenario. Who in their right mind today would refuse a cure for their cancer, disorders or diseases? Today we can barely control diseases. In the future we should be able to totally cure them.

Will you honsetly say "I want to live months in pain and die?"

ASK ANYONE IF THAT'S POSSIBLE? (LIVE FOREVER)

I wouldn't want to live forever, but maybe a couple of hundred years, maybe to 200 years old would be good. If we aged at half the rate or less than we do now it would be good, who would want to be old for another 100 years. You would have to stay young to live for a long time, or else it would be hell.

http://www.gen.cam.ac.uk/sens/poptech.mp4

You can watch aubrey in a conference at Poptech 2003 discussing extending life span of humans and his plan. You can also see the details on how hes going to do it and the ethical issues at: http://www.gen.cam.ac.uk/sens/index.html

Living to 120 within reach: scientists

Scientists say the ability to extend human life up to 120 years is at their fingertips following groundbreaking research into the lifespan of a tiny earthworm.

Australian research scientist Shane Rea, of the University of Colorado's Institute of Behavioural Genetics, said a team of scientists had been able to predict the lifespan of the worm, Caenorhabditis elegans, by culturing them under identical environments and subjecting them to certain stress.

The former Queenslander said the study, published this week in the Nature Genetics journal, had enabled scientists to predict differences in individual life expectancy in the worm as much as five fold.

He said the find was the equivalent of determining the lifespan of a human at the age of 20, paving the way for scientists to then "tweak" a person's stress-response systems for maximum longevity.

"We think we have a biomarker of ageing ... rather than waiting for someone or something to die we can predict how long it's going to live," Dr Rea said from his Colorado home.

"Not only that, it opens up a whole lot of possibilities where we can come in with interventions and potentially isolate an animal that has what seems to be a very low ability to deal with stress, and do things to it and push it into a high coping category.

"Translating worm work into human work, I wouldn't hazard a guess how far away we are (from a 120-year lifespan), but we certainly have at our fingertips tools to start addressing human problems, human ageing."

Dr Rea said humans had the ability to live up to 120 years of age but were thwarted by the stresses and diseases of day-to-day life.

He said the worm study used part of a gene in the animal known to be induced under heat stress, and coupled it with a protein which turns into a fluorescent molecule.

It then revealed variations in the invertebrates' ability to cope with stress, which was then linked with their lifespan.

Dr Rea said the immediate impact of the study had been to open up the possibility of finding more physiological markers which made an animal "robust" to every stress imaginable.

"It is our hope that one day we will be able to take a blood, urine or spit sample from humans, and analyse it for various biomarkers and then be able to say how long that person is currently capable of living," he said.

"If the person so wishes, we would then potentially be able to tweak each of their stress-response systems so they would be set for maximal longevity, perhaps giving everyone the same opportunity to reach the current 120 years limit of human longevity."

http://au.news.yahoo.com/050725/2/v7z1.html

I'd like to be able to choose how long I shall live and at the same time, age, but age slowly, slowly with the years i choose to live. I am 20 now, so if I want to live 200 more years I dont want my health to deteriorate like it normally would with the "average" life span. So, at the age of 80, I'd feel extremely youthful, as if I were a preteen, and as I get closer to my [death] due date, I'd grow old and frail as if I were 100 "average (modern/today) human" years old. uhhh, ya. thats it.

I wonder though whoa182 . What type of vehicle will they suspend this "ointment of youth" in to give to the masses? Is it something we order online? LOL. Or is it for the next generation and we who live today shall die and never live to the age of 300?

I also wonder if they will discriminate. Will they (the scientists) not want certain races to live long and prosper with them? Maybe they will use this new found fountain of youth to eliminate a certain group, leave them behind while the others live long. Would you find this applicable?

I do not want to live forever, or even longer than I have to, for a couple of reasons. First, I believe in the immortality of the soul. As far as I'm concerned, I'm a very old soul in a flawed and aging body that I can hardly wait to get out of. The thought of being trapped forever in this pathetic meat wagon is the most horrifying thing I can imagine.
Second, I believe in reincarnation and Karma. I have lived my life as close the the Golden Rule as I could, given my flawed nature, and I hope that I have learned whatever lessons I was faced with so that next time around, maybe I'll get a body that wasn't poisoned and defective to start with. Maybe then I'd enjoy life enough to want to prolong it; on the other hand, I'd hope that I'd be sufficiently advanced in wisdom that I wouldn't be driven to hang on to anything physical, including flesh.

its impossible cause we are carbon based life-forms, and eventually all of that carbon will leave us. besides it would be a sad life to live forever, I can garauntee you that at some point an immortal would regret their decision. "the key to immortality is first to live a life worth remembering"-quote from "The Crow"

sure ide like to live as long as I can (naturally) but I know that a normal lifespan is tough enough on people, elders in their 90's and hundreds usually become very saddend from all of the stuff they have seen so much death, so much change. eventually every last one of you would crack and regret.

padawanOsswe:

I dont know if you are too young to understand or what... or you may just ignore 3/4 of the posts.



Why would you regret it? It's not really about immortality. It's about having a choice! The choice to die whenever you want and the choice to live aslong as you want.

It's not about making 1 decision... It's about having freedom of choice. You would still be able to die.


I am NOT talking about the type of immortality from a comic book character or higlander movie.

I'm talking about having a choice of when you want to die.

To say i want to die on my 100th birthday is ridiculous. There might be something really important happening on that day. You live untill you dont feel like living anymore.

I've told you this so many times!



How would you see a lot of death if no one has to die from disease or old age ! ! ! Errrrrr YOU wouldnt be the only person able to live a long time ! THIS IS NOT HIGHLANDER !

And so what if you feel sad. Go kill yourself !

ITS ABOUT HAVING A CHOICE !

No one will stop you from killing yourself! This isnt a damn curse


THINK before you say something. Your arguments really bad and i've already explained these things over and over.

I hope you understand now

A $1,000,000 Mystery Donation in the Fight to Cure Aging

Anonymous Benefactor Contributes to Methuselah Mouse Prize

NEW YORK, NY -- (MARKET WIRE) -- 11/09/2005 -- Entrepreneur Dave Gobel has experienced a good number of pleasant surprises over the past two and a half years since he co-founded the Methuselah Mouse Prize, or Mprize, for anti-aging research. None more so than when he opened an unassuming envelope in the morning mail to find himself eye to eye with a cashier's check for $1,000,000 -- a sum that would triple the funds then in the Methuselah Foundation account, and raise the total in pledges from nearly $2 million to nearly $3 million.

"I was quite flabbergasted over my morning toast," said Gobel. "The Mprize receives a steady stream of modest donations by mail, but this came completely out of the blue. No one had approached us to talk about a large donation -- frankly I had a hard time believing it was real, despite our successes to date, and despite holding it in my hands!"

The Mprize is a research prize modeled after the successful and influential Ansari X Prize. Prizes are awarded to scientists who succeed in extending the healthy life span of mice, or -- perhaps more importantly -- discovering a better method of rejuvenation for already aged mice while repairing the ravages of time and leading to longer, healthier lives. This is just a means to an end, however -- the Mprize aims to invigorate not just mice, but also the forlorn state of scientific anti-aging research.

"Until recently the science of aging had not progressed far enough to let us design plausible interventions, but in the past five to ten years it has reached that point," said Aubrey de Grey, co-founder and Chairman of the Methuselah Foundation. "There really is no excuse for the current lack of progress towards effective therapies for the cellular damage of aging -- we know more than enough to be moving forward with large-scale projects, if the funding was just there. Degenerative aging is barbaric, a horror that leads to the deaths of more than 100,000 people each and every day. It shouldn't be allowed."

"The biochemistry of aging is really no more difficult or mysterious than the biochemistry of cancer -- and we as a society have shown great dedication to the eradication of cancer. It is time to do the same for aging," said Kevin Perrott, Executive Director of the Methuselah Foundation. "This generous donation will inspire many more millions of dollars in research funding in the years ahead, as it encourages scientists to make faster progress towards curing the ills of aging. Old age could be a wonderful thing if we could just prevent the accompanying suffering and loss of health."

About the Methuselah Mouse Prize:

The Methuselah Mouse Prize (Mprize) is the premiere effort of the Methuselah Foundation and is being offered to the scientific research team who develops the longest living Mus musculus, the breed of mouse most commonly used in scientific research. Developing interventions which work in mice are a critical precursor to the development of human anti-aging techniques, for once it is demonstrated that aging in mice can be effectively delayed or reversed, popular attitudes towards aging as 'inevitable' will no longer be possible. When aging in mice is shown to be 'treatable' the funding necessary for a full-line assault on the aging process will be made available. This is the true power of the Methuselah Mouse Prize, to demonstrate a proof of principle, and give hope to the world that decline in function and age-related disease are no longer guarantees, for us, or for future generations, if we work together now. For more information, please visit: http://www.methuselahmouse.org/

Haha I don't wanna be some old guy... So I picked only if I'm youthful. What can I say? I'm at the pinnacle of my power. Oh invincibility would be nice if I didn't already have it.

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living forever isnt a bad idea, but like 1 day what if you're like really mad and want to end your life or someone else's life, WELL you cant because your immortal, and if we all are immortal the whole world will go to a mad horror movie...
and everything on earth will be destroy...
that is why there is a cycle of life and death to keep the world go round and to prevent the bad ideas from happening...(even if some of those ideas are good)
but then again there are many secrets and mysteries to be solve in the world of human

Well you could end your life, just the same way as you can end it today. I think that this seems to be a 'common' misunderstanding of what this subject is about. It's not about making your self into duncan mcloud and immortal and can't die from anything. The idea is to be able to reverse ageing, once you reverse it to a certain point you will carry on ageing again and so on...

People will still die from accidents, viruses, natural disasters and other things...

understand?