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S.J.S.^
can ghosts fall in love with humans cos i have been told that tey have but i want to back that up so do you know if they do or show emotions like crying or love ect....
DarkEntity99
I don't think spirts can cry or shed tears.
But i think they do have emotions
Murphys Law
If the crying had taken place in the event of there death. it is possible to be imprinted on the area of the haunt.
Shakezulah
i dont think ghosts could actually FALL in love with a human, but i believe that they never stop loving the person the did before they died. makes more sense. as for other emotions, its possible they can but i dont think they can cry or anything because tears are something a human does. they arent or were never alive so a ghost wouldnt be able to produce them.
absinthegreen329
I think ghosts can fall in love with humans, there have been cases of hauntings where they claim that the ghost wasn't drawn to the house, but the individual.
shadowcat
I think that ghosts are drawn to humans because of that person's particular energy, not because they are "in love" with them.
Rakshasas
I agree with shadowcat.I think some people just gove off alot more energy than others.
absinthegreen329
QUOTE(shadowcat @ Jan 10 2005, 08:38 AM)
I think that ghosts are drawn to humans because of that person's particular energy, not because they are "in love" with them.
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That's what I meant, just couldn't find the right wording at the time. Thanks.
Falco Rex
Leaving aside my general disbelief in ghost stories as a whole, let's look at this from a neutral angle, for a change. From most of the Ghost accounts I've read or heard of most Ghosts seem to be focused on one thing. Whether that's a person, place or event is immaterial to the point. That one thing takes up the whole of it's unlife..
If it happens to be a person(whether living or dead) it's focused on, then one particular aspect of their relationship is stressed above all else. If it hates that person, it hates them beyond all reason. If it loves them, it's to the point of abandoning everything else. If it's feeling protective; it protects that person from everything; whether it's needed or not. It's like one fragment of a personality being multiplied by a hundred. This unhealthy single-mindedness would leave me to believe that ghosts feel no true emotion but instead suffer from obsession..

..Assuming you actually believe in ghosts, and if they actually feel anything, that is..
shadowcat
I have wondered for a long time whether or not ghosts feel anything. I agree with Falco Rex's description of a ghost and it's absolute obsession over one thing is correct. But do they really FEEL this love/hate/protectiveness? I believe that, as I said before, they're drawn to a particular person's energy - and that is probably because the energy helps them to make contact, or manifest itself in some way...but is this a conscious decision on the part of the ghost? Is there an actual thought process there? Obviously not in the case of a "residual" haunting...but what of a spirit who interacts with humans?

This is kind of a threadjack, sorry for that...

Something to ponder...
Angel_of_Pain
Ghosts falling in love with people...???It's possible but its never been proven. People do send off an energy so I have to agree that ghosts and spirits are drawn to mortals with more energies then another. Spirits and ghosts shows emotion, they fell fear, pain, anger, sorrow. Just like you and me. We can cause them to feel these things. The ghosts and spirits in my home change there emotion depending on how I or my family feels. They cry when we're sad and yell when we're angry ect.

But it's hard to say for sure. You can believe what you want. I'm no expert on this kind of thing...but I do have a pretty good idea on what I'm talking about. I'm around this kind of thing 24/7.

!~*~!Angel of Pain!~*~!
sirec
i think some do i think bu many keep to what they use to do in the past life in my oppinion. it depends i think on how and when they died.
Lord_Kazius
i think they can, my lover is a banshee, were expecting.
QueenoftheNight
Yes, Why not? Ghosts are simply to be the souls of people who died, and souls are made up of our passions, love, and despair... at least thats what I think. hmm.gif
KevinM
I'd say it depends on the ghost. A lot of them are confused and in a mentally disturbed state. They don't understand what they are or how they relate to the world any more so they really aren't capable of relating to a human being in the way that love requires. Are there exceptions yeah probably and certainly souls who pass over but are not earth bound can still love.
S.J.S.^
i agree and they would always love i think like their family hmm.gif
DoubtingThomas
Well, first off, a reminder that this is all just conjecture, as we have not proven that ghosts exist.

With that said, I would believe that ghosts are the fractured neurological activity of a human being who has died, and as such are incapable of more than repetitive actions or limited interaction. If anyone should want a more thorough explanation (not that they would) simply ask.

KevinM
If I'm understanding you right(that basicly ghosts are left over thought patterns not actual independent thinking creatures) I personally have never agreed with that theory. A lot of activity shows some kind of inteligent design behind it that suggests a personality controling whats going on. Admittedly since I've never had a cup of coffee with a ghost I can't say that with any certainty but its what I think.
DoubtingThomas
No, not residual thoughts. My conjecture revolves around the only science I can relate this to: electromagnetic fields. The idea being that the human brain is an electrochemical mechanism; the electrical aspects of that no doubt project from a living person, whereas the chemical parts do not. Thus, if the electromagnetic field were somehow able to exist after death, something unproven and frankly, seemingly impossible, then the persona would not have the completeness it did when alive, resulting in many of the characteristics reported during unexplained ghostly encounters:

-inabillity to leave an area, or in some cases object.
-seemingly illogical repetitions of the same action(s) over and over.
-unusual interactions with people object, seemingly 'playing' with them (movement of objects is also impossible according to science)
-inconsistent appearance, irregular time periods and duration.
KevinM
Ok thats pretty much what I thought you meant I just made a bad choice of words. Let me offer my own ideas on the matter as a counter with some basis on scientific possibility though. The universe as we know it is largely made up of matter and energy and combinations there of(as far as I know and forgive my I'm not a physicist theres nothing beyond those two). Now we know thought exists even though we can't in any objective way prove it. We can prove that the brain fires and that certain chemicals produce certain emotions but we can't show how those reactions create the unique phenomenon of thought nor can we actually detect what some one is thinking. Thought isn't a form of matter. The matter of the brain probably produces thought but that matter itself is not a thought correct? That would lead one logicaly to consider thought a form of energy. Under the laws of thermodynamics energy can't be created or destroyed. There fore when we die some thing has to happen to our thoughts. One possibility would of coourse be they all split up and get scattered into some thing meaningless. Another though would be that they maintain some kind of cohesion and this is what we call the soul. Can I prove any of this in a lab? No but I do think I've proven it logicly which at least makes it a reasonable idea if not a proven fact. At any rate there is a way to prove once and for all to any one what happens when you die that has a 100% chance of showing you of course the problem is the technical term for that would be kicking the bucket original.gif.
DoubtingThomas
Well thought out, KevinM.

The thing is, human thoughts are composed of electrical impulses firing through the relay of neurons in our brains, backed up by neurotransmitter chemicals. Now it's true that energy cannot be created or destroyed, but it does tend to convert itself to a lower form of energy. After death, the body no longer produces the energy needed to activate the neurological impulses, and mental activity ceases.

We are basically looking at the same thing here.
KevinM
Your quite right although I do believe that generally a persons mind(the sum total of all thoughts) can exist and is some thing distinct from the brain and its working. I can't prove it(I've seen what I consider proof life continues after death but unless you were to see them the way I did I don't think your going to believe my interpritation and thats just fine with me) but its what I think. Regardless your ideas do have merit and while I don't think they're always the cause of hauntings it may certainly be the root of some of them. Some thing particularly interesting in relation to that I'm curious what you think of is EVPs. How would the ability to capture the voice of the spirit of a deceased person on a recording device fit into that. Particularly in light of reports that these spirits can answer questions put to them?
DoubtingThomas
EVP? Well, I think about 90% of that is people hearing what they want in random sounds. With regards to the thread, especially the ones in which the spirit says 'I love you, ___" or " Get out."

After watching the White Noise trailer, I sought out the original recordings... and found them to be indecipherable. They had been 'cleaned up' for the trailer, and as a result, my mind was unable to NOT hear the messages, which goes to show you something about the powers of persuasion.

With my (our?) conjecture, I can say that perhaps the 'disembodied brain' could percieve and react to a living person, answering simple questions. As to how the answers get on a tape, I, nor science, can explain. no.gif
KevinM
Indescipherable thats kind. The last time I heard evps from that particular group I thought they were probably faked. Youre also quite right a lot of time people hear what they want to atlhough I"ve heard a handful that obviously weren't(the most remarkable to date was in a house where the spirit said some thing I won't repeat here(you was the only word it used that wasn't an explitive) but it sounded like some one was right in the room talking I know for a fact no one said it because I was sitting five feet from the recorder at the time). One of the more entertaining things we do on the Radio sho I co host is play evps from our own cases. Just to test it we'll play a segment which clearly as a noise on it and ask them what they think it said. Usually in about 9 responses out of 10 they all say the exact same thing(I've heard some spirits say some extremely funny things). I raised it because I personally think its evidence of a more organized inteligence then the energy field idea would suggest.
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