lotus_spring
Jan 10 2005, 01:20 AM
Uri Geller was a historical credited psychic by scientists of the 70s and 80s, but what happen to him now, I have not read about it much.
Uri could make metals bend, espescially with the well known 'spoon' bending tricks and 'ring snapping stunt'. The thing that sets Geller apart from other magicians is that he did not have to avoid scientific tests researchers done on him in order that he might have a susccessful career in magic. He was a genuine talent.
And he was a real success. Some of his feats include mind reading, telekinesis, psychokinesis, teleportation, fixing a spoilt watch by rubbing it, clairvoyance. Unlike most magicians, whose 'magic' are actually physical tricks, his was a 'real' certified psychic by many, many scientists.
In any cases, envy will always catch up, thus two magicians wanted to claim him fraud. Charles Reynolds and james Randi tried repeatedly to defame him, through journals and magazines which made Geller 'utterly' famous. In the end they failed, they were even shocked to learn that Geller's magic was indeed 'real'.
Geller could snap's audience's rings without touching them and bend metal without placing a finger on it. This, no wonder rose jealousy in Reynolds and the 'Amazing Randi'. It was 'real', real for the fact that during hypnosis, strange metallic voices were heard and he said that his 'powers' were from the Extraterrestrials. The hypnosis was conducted by his personal physic researcher and thereafter strange events of 'poltergeist' effect and teleportation occured.
Geller also predicted David Blaine to be a today's famous magician.
Of course, many of you here don't believe in psychic power, which I termed supernormal ability. Since some of you are 'skeptics', 'idealists', 'analysts' and 'agnostic'. This is due to your deluded 'ego', and your refusal to believe due to your practical self, envy, jealousy, immature attitude towards the unexplained and lack of knowledge, which indeed it sad.
Sir Christopher
Jan 10 2005, 02:14 AM
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lotus_spring
Jan 10 2005, 06:39 AM
The quote you gave is too much, I don't think most viwers enjoy long quotes..
The quote on spoon bending was inacurate. This was how it happened.
Uri Geller was introduced on a British TV programme. He demonstrated spoon bending. Thereafter, The TV programmes received few hundred viwers' calls saying that their spoons at homes were bent mysteriously. I believed there were other poltergeist-like happeningsduring the show.
This kind of incident happens everytime he was guested in TV programmes.
Can I point out that news on the internet are easily published and accessible, and many are lies and slander. WHat was that about Sai Baba? Unlike books which need funding to publish, I can't rely on these based info.
lotus_spring
Jan 10 2005, 06:52 AM
Anyway, I hope that things would not go into debate, for the issue is primarily this:
Are some magicians the result of superpowers?
It is senseless to inforce people to believe. As a matter of fact, whether you are a skeptic, critic or a believer in supernatural, Upon death, I believe, even upon death, at least a sense of 'other world' will drive some sense into your head as to what is supernatural about, and some mysteries unveiled.
It is senseless arguing, for many who fight for their rights are ones who greed for fame and authority of knowledge, therefor it is best to leave to viewers' to learn. True man of knowledge won't speak much anyway..
whoa182
Jan 10 2005, 02:36 PM
whoa182
Jan 10 2005, 02:49 PM
http://www.skepticreport.com/psychics/urispoon.htmCheck out this, Shows you some interesting stuff, the full video is at the bottom
Sir Christopher
Jan 10 2005, 03:39 PM
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The Skeptic Eric Raven
Jan 11 2005, 12:03 AM
I take offense at what you said about sceptics and agnostics which I am both. Perhaps you are blinded by your need to believe in unpoven abilities. Grasping at straws.
MK ULTRA
Jan 11 2005, 01:55 PM
I've seen Gellar bend a spoon for my girlfriend at a party (she worked on Im a celeb.get me outta here),he seemed like a nice chap but I must say his bending abilities were crap.As a magician I could clearly see him manipulating the metal with his other hand and used alot of poor misdirection.
Bending spoons can be quite hard to learn and involves alot of fluid moves but is rather simple when youve got the hang of it.
Theres a magician/mentalist called Banacheck who performs the trick alot better.
*MoG*
Jan 11 2005, 02:28 PM
Uri was on TV just the other night.
He was investigating hauntings in Venice. I watched about 5 minutes of it and I have to say he has a very good power - he put me to sleep!!!
His voice is sooooooo boring I just couldn't stay awake.
Thats magic!!
Richdog
Jan 11 2005, 05:53 PM
QUOTE(lotus_spring @ Jan 10 2005, 02:20 AM)
Of course, many of you here don't believe in psychic power, which I termed supernormal ability. Since some of you are 'skeptics', 'idealists', 'analysts' and 'agnostic'. This is due to your deluded 'ego', and your refusal to believe due to your practical self, envy, jealousy, immature attitude towards the unexplained and lack of knowledge, which indeed it sad.
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lotus_spring how old are you just out of interest? I hope very young from the way you act and write...
Oh, and I reckon Uri is almost 99% fake, read this link for a good idea of how he bends spoons...
http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_062.html
<bleeding_heart>
Jan 11 2005, 09:04 PM
Just a thought but seeing as he claims to be able to influence world events (granted sporting) why doesnt he solve the middle easts problems, I would imagine it to be close to his heart. His powers seem to fail him whenever hes on TV and asked to do something off the cuff, when someone else controlls the show.
MK ULTRA
Jan 13 2005, 02:39 PM
QUOTE(<bleeding_heart> @ Jan 11 2005, 09:04 PM)
Just a thought but seeing as he claims to be able to influence world events (granted sporting) why doesnt he solve the middle easts problems, I would imagine it to be close to his heart. His powers seem to fail him whenever hes on TV and asked to do something off the cuff, when someone else controlls the show.
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Yeah man,Didnt he also claim in a book his powers were given to him by aliens,

then states we all have these powers,we just need to tap into them.

make your mind up!
Basically the guys a con man and full of shitaki mushrooms

!
MagicJaxon
Jan 17 2005, 02:18 AM
Uri is/was a very good magician. Nothing more. Those who tried to prove him a fraud have all succeeded. It's actually pretty sad that he didn't come out and admit it. Maybe he still will someday. Maybe on his death bed like the guy who admitted the fraud Bog foot footage.
The thing is, people want to believe and it's easier to believe what others have said happened then to actually witness it. Take for example Houdini. Some of his most famous feats never actually happened. Many of them did but some where just stories that circulated. Legends can really grow out of very small events.
I've been performing magic for years and it never fails for someone to come up to me and tell me about the time they saw me do this amazing piece of magic. Things I could never do and I never even thought of doing. These people aren't lying really. in there minds they really saw me do these things. There minds just kind of made it up.
You could show me and many others who are knowledgeable in magic any of the things Uri did and most magicians will be able know how he did it. He was just a master of making a failure look like a success. Always has a reason for it not working. Then he admits that he sometimes uses tricks instead of his "powers." Now you explain that.
Another way of looking at it is this. If you could really bend metal, would you waist that talent on spoons and keys?
Another thing you should know is that many of the scientist who backed him years ago no longer do so. If you meet one who did and asked him you'd probably get ignored. No one wants to be reminded of a public mistake or being had. This is why when someone asks if I have some kind of super powers after they see my performances I kind of feel bad. I don't expect them to think that of me. I jut try to bring a little mystery to there life's.
Ron Jaxon
MagicJaxon
Jan 17 2005, 02:37 AM
Sorry, I forgot to comment on this in my last post.
That video is the wood blocks falling over is something you can buy at magic shops. It's not very popular amoung magicians because you don't have much control over it. Sometimes it falls in a few seconds and other times it takes a few minutes. That's why he had to spend his time doing that funny look. Notice the camera doesn't show him when they drop and the entire time he's hoping it won't take to long..
haarbol
Jun 19 2005, 06:29 PM
QUOTE(MagicJaxon @ Jan 17 2005, 03:37 AM)
Sorry, I forgot to comment on this in my last post.
That video is the wood blocks falling over is something you can buy at magic shops. It's not very popular amoung magicians because you don't have much control over it. Sometimes it falls in a few seconds and other times it takes a few minutes. That's why he had to spend his time doing that funny look. Notice the camera doesn't show him when they drop and the entire time he's hoping it won't take to long..

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Haha, that (Dutch) clip showing the guy trying to let the block fall over is actually someone trying to prove that the act of the serious-looking-guy (Rasta Rostelli) is a fraud! So the guy doing the 'trick' is no magician or whatever at all! He's just showing it is a trick.
Mr Slayer
Jun 19 2005, 06:45 PM
Uri Geller is a sad leftover from the era when people could be fooled to believe anything if the trickster was good enough.
(Well, people still believe different tricks, but that's an another story.)
openmind1963
Jun 21 2005, 11:09 PM
the guy is'nt anything but a bad shaman,and a good friend of michael jackson.
which is worse?
LucidElement
Jun 22 2005, 07:33 AM
Alain Nu, reflects somethin in which Uri has done.. has anyone seen the episodes on TLC called "The Mysterious World of Alain Nu"?
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