When you think about it Game did not tart this beef. Here is my plea...


Game had beef with Joe Budden, Memphis Bleek, Domination, and Yukmouth when he co-signed to gunit records. But 50 and the rest of g-unit never helped Game diss them on ny tracks!

So on a interview with sirius radio station Game said 50 never helped me with my beefs so why should I help him I don't want to get involved NO DISRESPCT TO 50.

50 Got all butt-hurt and dissed Game. And one of Game's homies got shot in the leg and rumors go that 50 was behind that so I dunno this could get ugly.

hopefully not


zI hope Dr.Dre can settle this since the are on the same record label!

Of course its going to get settled, look what happened to Pac and Big, if they smart enough they will know mainstream is all about making paper not ending up in body bags. Unless the beef is a ploy to sell records, then thats another thing.

The difference with this beef, and the Pac and BIG beef, is both 50 and Game are on the same label. Which is going to transform into a whole new type of beef. BTW On Allhiphop.com, At a performance The Game had a dude dressed up in a rat costume with a G-Unit shirt on. They all started beating the rat up. It was funny.

My prediction 50 cent is going to play himself out. He is ruthless, but only focuses on beef. Eventually people are going to get sick of hearing it. One thing people will love the is The Game going at 50. Lyrically, The Game has got 50 in a world of trouble. But 50 has got a strong fan base, that the Game is slowly creeping into. Basically I think The Game is slowly (a few years) going to gain more sales than 50. Then 50 will become aggressive and one of them will end up shot or in prison.

Now, Now, Now. My favorite rap beef at this time is between TI and Lil Flip. If you want to hear a great battle track, get "99 Problems, but Lil Flip Ain't One." Its to the Jay Z beat, and it is RAAAAAAW!

_hAiLO_ -"But most hip-hop lovers would agree with you! The mainstream rap you see in the TV about 'bling bling' and 'i'm gonna pop you wit my crew' is all nonsense to what hip-hop used to be.

Now people who want the hip-hop that tells it like it is, the true and 'being real' would come from Underground hip-hop. Lyrics matter just as much as the beats do. The underground rap might not have the best club dancing beats, but its got the lyrics that really make you think."

I agree with you 100%. This new $#!T where they all talk about how much ice they got, or how much money they spend is sickening. I started listening to rap when I was twelve or thirteen. I started with 2pac, NWA, BIG, Snoop, Dre. Those dudes spoke about the struggle, not about what its like after your rich. Then as time went on I got more into Southern Rap. The great thing about it is, 75% of it is underground, and unaffected by the mainstream bs. The rappers that annoyed my the most were No Limit Records and Cash Money. It was always the same crap. "I got ice, and cars, and money, and women, and its good" BARF, weak lyrics make me sick!!!

thats a good point they are on the same label, I guess the dynamics would be different, but it even sheds more light it could just be a P.R. stunt to sell records, which did help both artist sell records and sell out shows. But I think its genuine and if Dre don't step in the label could get split up when everybody starts choosing sides.

Unlike you I think Fifty would win, just because more people know him and the Game does not come off as a mainstream rapper he talks lot about his streat cred and such on interviews and stuff, but his lyrics are extrmely conscious of himself, other people and his environment and he does quote and talk about other rap artist a lot kind of got me annoyed (geez say something I don't know), but my point is if Game does not change his style of rapping he might fall to the underground, his music is not pop music like Fifty. Notice how you love underground and love The Game it seems like a lot of underground Hip-hop heads love The Game, I only know a few zombies who like The Game, most of the complaints I hear about the game is not enough music to dance too or enough tracks that glorify gangsters


that was a good track




I can't believe they still selling records and Lil Wayne come on he got mad skills, but he stuck with that shitty label. I won't hate though, he's doing his thing. In fact I really don't care what sells on the mainstream its what it is a music for dumb people. I just hate it when ignorant people say Hip-Hop is what they see on MTV, or BET, then I gotta school them on some real deep stuff.

Well this beef between Game and G-unit is not to sell records. Since there's no diss tracks on their albums dising each other. Except on 50's album "The Massace" where on Piggy Bank he disses Jadakiss, Fat Joe, and Nas.

I am just wondering when Dr.Dre and Eminem are going to comment on this. I know 50Cent said he has the whole Anger Management tour to destroy any rappers going against him!

I hope he don't diss Game at the conceert I'm going to! I have tickets to San Diego concert on July 22nd. If 50 disses Game there, there could be problems I guarantee the people will boo 50 and take Game's side.

As for mainstream being all about money....


that's all this world is, is about money. Show me 1 underground/ local rapper who would not want a million dollar record label.

I thing you mis-understood what underground aficionado's are saying, mainstream rappers just rap about money, girls, sex, drugs, dancing (nonsense). Of course underground rappers want to sell, they just don't want to sacrifice their talent or sign their life away.

Some underground rappers still make upwards one million dollars, but they choose to remain underground because the freedom of creativity, little publicity, and more profit for the artist. When someone signs with a major label they loose a lot of authority in what they rap about, what they wear, people they hang with. Staying underground with a small local is a benefit in some ways, but they don't see nearly much exposure as the main stream artists. They have a giant budget to spend on marketing, while the underground labels are putting up posters, and cheap local commercials. I guess it is just two different ways to make a stake in the rap game. Both turn out profits, underground on a much smaller scale.

Anger Managent is starting in my hometown of Indianapolis, concert is in Noblesville which is right in the burbs of Indy. Odd thing is 50 can't come to it for some reason, but they are bringing Luda. Due to my southern taste I'm not that upset, I lika the Luda. But I am reluctant to spend $65 to sit on some grass to hear some music.

Don't know if this is true or not, however I heard that Game changed or is thinking about changing his name to "the hurricane" and coming out with some sneakers "The Hurricanes"

Can anyone confirm this?

^FALSE

He's known for that name THE GAME AKA CHUCK TAYLOR AKA HURRICANE GAME

Real name Jaceon Taylor


His username is Hurricane Game at is forum for his official website.

haha, I got nothing to say, but I agree with all of you. The Underground hip-hop fans will mostly go for Game, and the 'shake ya booty'! Dance club bangers will go for 50. These people need to get educated on what hip-hop originated on. Now i'm not saying that 50 Cent isn't educated, i'm saying that he should put the money aside and rap about something he truly went through in his old days.

Um....this rapper dude is making sneakers called 'Hurricanes"

Yea....just would like to inform.... *stumbles out of room*

Ahh thanks for the info Good thing he is not changing to only "hurricane" though because that would sound quite stupid.



Yeah, it looks like the sneakers part is right. I found a story at mtv that mentions the sneakers and also his beef with fifty...

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1504520/0...?headlines=true

Notorious B.I.G. Murder Gets Day In Court

One of the murkiest rapper murders of the 1990s finally came to court yesterday (June 21) in Los Angeles, eight years after a series of shootings and assaults widely attributed to a turf war between East and West Coast rap record labels.

Tight security, including metal detectors and guards, marked jury selection and opening statements in federal court in Los Angeles in a wrongful death lawsuit filed against the city of Los Angeles by the family of Notorious B.I.G. The family says a police officer played a role in the rapper's 1997 death.

Notorious B.I.G., born Christopher Wallace, was shot to death in March 1997 after attending a music industry party in Los Angeles. No one has been charged with his slaying, which came six months after Tupac Shakur -- the era's other leading rap artist -- was shot and killed in Las Vegas.

Shakur's murder has also gone unsolved but the two killings spawned books, movies and conspiracy theories involving gang rivalry and feuding between New York-based Bad Boy Entertainment and Los Angeles-based Death Row Records -- two of the biggest rap labels.

The civil lawsuit filed by B.I.G's family claims a rogue ex- LAPD officer, David Mack, who is now serving a prison term for robbery, planned B.I.G.'s murder on behalf of Death Row owner Marion "Suge" Knight in retaliation for the murder of his protege Shakur. Lawyers for B.I.G's family alleged a friend of Mack carried out the shooting.

Rob Frank, a lawyer for B.I.G's mother and widow, said in opening statements that Mack was a "Death Row record label associate" as well as a member of the notorious Los Angeles street gang the Bloods.

Frank said the case, expected to take about four weeks, would show that Los Angeles police "allowed cops to be involved in criminal activity" and "to associate with gangsters."

But Vincent Marella, lawyer for the city of Los Angeles, told the jury the case was peppered by "incredible witnesses and unreliable informants."

Marella said family members were trying to collect money from the city despite a thorough investigation by police and the FBI that resulted in no criminal charges against anyone. "We submit that there won't be any believable evidence that will support the theory you heard," Marella said.

Source

Yeah, Game has got the "California Love". Fiddy won't be able to touch him here or he'll get booed off stage.

Yeah dod anyone see what Game did now!

Went on MTV wearing that G-U NOT shot haha. Dissing 50 again I'm telling you this kid is real!

Hell yeah he's being real! Did you see the album cover of his Mixtape?

The Album Cover. If you take a look at The Games left hand, it gets pretty gangster. Well not nesassarily, I think gangsters kill to survive, I think this is revenge or something. I hope The Game really isn't that way.

The Mixtape (download)
--or--
http://ww2.sharebigfile.com/index.php?down...l8x61wRlzieulLG


NuJerseyDevil & Dj Skee Present : The Game - You Know What It Is Vol.3

1 - 300 Bars & Runnin' (12+ minutes) (Dissin' Roc-A-Fella, 50 Cent & G-Unit)
2 - Down
3 - Poison Bananas feat. RockStar & M.O.B.
4 - I'm A King feat. T.I.
5 - Olivia (debut single)
6 - 5 Heartbeats Skit
7 - Play The Game
8 - Lil' Bit (remix)
9 - M.O.B. Freestyle
10 - Why You Smell Like Dat feat. Rockstar & M.O.B.
11 - Street Muzik feat. Sheek Louch
12 - Lyrical Exercise - Rockstar
13 - "Where I'm From" Freestyle
14 - Never Be Friends
15 - Swallow That Slug feat. Charli "Chuck" B. More
16 - Hate It Or Love It (street remix)
17 - All I Need feat. W.C.
18 - Playas Only
19 - Lay Low feat. M.O.B.
20 - Justo Faison Tribute

Courtesy of http://www.aznraps.com/forums/showthread.php4?t=80634&page=2

This site also had the lyrics to '300 Bars & Runnin'

OMG that album cover is funny!
Damn this beef is going to drag on for a while, I think this could get serious, amy finish with a murder, it has too.

I wish I could download it but right now I'm on dial up 84 mb aint worth it maybe I will find the songa ans download them one at a time.

and Arben nice find, its good that maybe a closure on B.I.G.'s death maybe soon.

Props on posting all that information. Yeah I seen the cover before haha it's funny. You can buy it at http://www.mixunit.com only 8dollars. plus they got bonus offers you would benefit from that better than download get more news and stuff sent with the cd.


That's funny how Game leaked Olivia's debut single.

Fifty is going to go crazy when he sees that cover

I'm sure he already seen the cover. 50 Don't want to mes with GAME! There's a new 50Cent song on Allhiphop.com But my audio won't play it I wonder if it's a diss to Game? I can't listen to it I dunno why...

I'm mostly into Emo music and Trance, but I like a lot of Rap. G-Unit is one of my favorite groups. But yes what is the deal with 50 Cent starting conflict with everyone? Can someone explain this to me?

Thats his style since his underground days he was dissing and starting beef with other rappers smal and big. The only reason I ever heard of him before he got big was because he dissed Jay-Z which is almost un-heard of if your nobody, but lately everybody takes shots at Jay-Z.

I'm curious why do you like Fifty Cent?

50 Just wants to be the King of NY like he said. And just like Jadakiss said how you the king of NY when you live in CT?

I dont like 50 Cent, but I like teh other members of G-Unit. I like how it sounds.

I like him as a music atist(50Cent) Not as a person. He seems so ...fake. He made some dumb excuse to kick Game out of G-Unit. He says screw the police,,,but we see him on the cover of NY Daily with his hands around 2 NYPD officers necks posing for a pic.

He's not a gangster. he was a drug dealer not a killer. Even killing don't make you a gangster.


Game is from bloods that's a gangster, I'm not saying it's good but thats his life style 50 is just fake.

I was browsing the tele then I caught that Kanye West video diamonds, is he releasing a new album?

Anyway the song is BS he is all over the place he does not make any sense to me talking about how he made it, critics want to dis him and his people, how success changed him and all that.

but I love the black and white cinematography its just excellent

Track- Diamonds Are Forever
Artist- Kanye West
Album- Late Registration(August 2005)
Label- Roc A Fella/ G.O.O.D.




You have to know what he means in the song the song is great! He means diamonds are forever another words how his record label ROC A FELLA broke up and RO stood for diamonds another words his label roc a fella are forever.


Also in the remix of the song Kany Talks about how many people die trying to get dimonds shipped to America. And we take that for granted. Many people die over seas trying to dig up diamonds for US justso we can show them off.

Check out the remix here.


http://www.allhiphop.com/music




You have to know what he's talking about to get what the song means.

Yeah. For some reason, I was thinking that Kanye's new song was somewhat 'healthy', but I couldn't figure out why. Thanks 2PAC for pointing that out, its just that I wish I had figured it out when I saw the video...

First impression, I also thought the Black and White was excellent

Good looking out 2PAC4LIFE it makes more sense to me know. I got the part about the children mining diamonds for americans trough the video that was a given but it was the lyrics I did not get. I can see his point know.


I think the only artist that label got now is Kanye West, I wonder how long he could carry them, now that underground labels are popping up all over the U.S. Almost every state with a hip-hop scene has a brand new artist with some gimmick dance or style. Today its the city of Houston making moves in the mainstream, I think tomorrow maybe Oakland will get the spot light.

Roc A Fella has a few memebrs still. I forgot all them tho..


I don't really pay attention to them because personally only one I like on that label is Kanye West. I know Roc still has Memphis Bleek Beanie Siegle and Young Gunz. Can't remember who else.

Bean just had a recent cd come out, it's pretty good i guess. There are some pretty killer tracks on it. I didnt get to see the Kayne video yet, maybe i'll go check for in online later. BTW, how's Game's mixtape, is it any good?

I'm going to see if I can't create some discussion through my opinions on some popular rappers (Excluding 50 and The Game).

First Off, I would like to know if people think the rap game would be different if Pac was still here. In my opinion, I think people like 50 cent, Ja Rule, basically anyone who thrives off beef would be non-existant. Let's face it, Pac was the ultimate battler and beefer. (Hit Em Up... That is BEEF) I think he would target 50 cent, if he wasn't affiliated with him. I don't think Jay Z would be quite as huge as he is.

I am also getting very sick of this Crunk music taking over Southern rap. I'll admit it when I am drunk and feeling rowdy I will put on some Lil Jon and get wild, but there are too many people trying to copy his style and doing a very poor job. And somehow it still ends up on the radio.

Ludacris... I believe he is going to be around for many years to come. Mostly because he is a very unique rhymer, and he avoids beef. It is easy to compare rappers that sound alike, at the moment I can't think of anyone that sounds similar to him, maybe Andre 3000 from Outkast.

Just trying to bring up some discussion...

I don't know about his whole mixtape, but the song "300 Bars and Running" is insane. He raps for sooo long over many different beats.

No, just because right now mainstream rap is changing, its all about your home town these days, and whats hot. If you look at the rap scene today almost every hood got there rapper. Go outside your hood people won't be feelin whoever is representing your hood. Like not a lot of people like Jay-Z outside of N.Y.C.

Tupac can't represent every neighborhood because he is a so called west coast gangster rapper. And west coast Gangster rap is pretty much dying, only thos old fossils Snoop, Dre, Ice Cube, is still alive with that, and plus Snoop is changing his style.

and Ja Rule does not strive on beef. jay Z would have still been huge, either he came up on his own or Biggie would have gave him mad love like he did on the "Brooklyn's Finest" track one of Jay-Z's best before the bullshit.


I never got into crunk its just party music, nothing more to it.


He does have a unique voice but I hate his music just nonsense to me

You know, of every single thug/gangster/husler out there who wants to become a rapper, none of them even come close to Tupac, or rise to his standards. There might be some underground rappers or a mainstream rapper that I don't know might be like Tupac, but seriously. I'm still waiting to hear from the next Tupac Shakur, the one thug who kept it real.

And yeah, Jay-Z is retired...don't want to worry about him anymore.

I usually perceive Crunk music as an excessive form of dance club music, or dance club music mixed with mainstream gangster rap. There would be beats that have you jumping off your table, and lyrics that have you invite your homies over and settle some beef, gangsta style. Crunk music can be good here or there, but I ain't feelin it when I'm in the deepest of moods.

Luda! I think he really got better over the years, lyrically...but his style is the same. If I were to compare him with other rappers, topic-wise, I would say that Chingy would be the closest one. He likes to talk about girls, its too much.

About the West Coast rap dying, I can agree with that. Since Tupac died, Snoop and Dre just settled. I lost touched with the Westside Connection, and the only one rappin the West Coast is the Game. All the East Coast, or Southern rappers have the radio now....well, I guess we'll have to wait and see who will come and pop up.

ughhhhh Chingy, Ludacris is Master Yoda compared to him!

To be honest if Pac was here....OUTLAWZ would not be a independent group they would have a major label. Also half the rap industry would not be here that's a promise.

That's all I'm saying.

I don't about that only underground and Tupac fans buy his album today i don't see how that would change, Tupac would have to sell out big time if he would want to be a rap star without the beef, because only shitty pop stuff makes you a big label and if he was alive i assume he would still be with Shug knight. He is the worst manager and producer in the business.

I can bet you that Tupac would have been a great producer and manager all by himself .

I wonder how I think he is lucky he got a manager and producer in the first place, Dre (well dre and pac were not cool anyway) and Snoop did not really want to mess with him because he went out of control when he got out of jail and kept on getting trouble for dumb sh**, and one thing that messed him up badly he was still gangbanging, wtf!!!!!!!! Why would you be a successful artist making money and you still want to be gangbanging, I don't want o hear he was just keeping it real bullshit, Tupac would still be alive if he just let gangbanging alone and concentrated on the music. Gangbanging is just flat out dumb especially if your a famous artist.

But I don't want to put the blame only on Pac but I think its the whole culture of west coast gangster rap, not only do you have to rap about being a thug, gangbanger or gangster, you still got to live it out which is just stupid. Make a few albums about your life, then sell out, retire produce other upcomers and just live the good life down in south beach on a yatch.

No wonder there ain't a lot of west coast gangster artist because they probably get killed or thrown in jail before they can blow up. With the exception of Ice cube, Snoop and Dre, they royalty when it comes to west coast gangster music so it does not matter if they still gangbangin or gangster.

In the east coast or somewhere else all you have to be is a former gangster and be a gangster rapper and just rap nothing else, just rap except Fifty cent ain't got that memo.

I say pac would never have squashed the beef with him and Biggie. If Dre and Snoop said you know Pac sorry for what we did I honestly think Pac would forgive them. Ad Suge was ripping Pac off big time he was trying to get all his money.

When Pac died he had like I believe 500$ in his bank account.

And I say Eminem would not be here the way he talked about his own Mom! Pac would not like that!

Definetly the Beef would still be on with Pac and Biggie, but Biggie would try to get a truce if it kept going on, or it could die because I'm mean how long could you listen to two guys dis each other.

Do you guys think the rumours are true about the beef.

Here is what i heard, Pac got shot at Bad Boy studios, pac had suspicion it was biggie and Puff, I don't know why? biggie comes out with who shaot ya a song recorded before the shooting but it gets taken out of context anyway so the belief is Pac got shot by Biggie and Puff. Pac gets Jailed for I forgot what Suge gets Pac out and the beef is on.

now fast forward Tupac gets in a fight with the Los Vegas Crips in a casino just dumb. The guy they beat up leaves the casino and is contacted by Biggies for a meeting. during the meeting The Crips and Biggie and Puff get a deal on they kill pac they get paid. i think it was 45 mins later Pac gets shot dies in the Hospital six days later. I think it was a L.V. detctive and an L.A. reporter who uncovered the evidence for this.

Fast foward again Biggie goes out to L.A. Suge finds out about contacts a dirtyu cop with connections and hire him for a hit Biggie gets shot outside a club dies on the way to the hospital. this one is a bit sketchy, because I really don't buy that a cop even though he is a scum bag would go after somebody like Biggie but its possible

Another story is that Suge killed Pac knowing he will be a martry so his unreleased songs would sell like crazy Suge did make a lot of money of Pac even after he been dead. Same with Biggie Puff could of got Biggie killed. Puff is still a big influence in Hip-Hop and is worth like 350+ million I think. But I doubt it Puff looks like he had a man crush for Biggie.


1. Do you think Biggie and his crew got Pac killed and Suge got Biggie finished?

2. Or do you think both artist had nothing to do with each others murder?

I believe #1 I love Biggie but damn did he have to kill Tupac thats messed up, and to tell you the truth I was not suprised Biggie got killed soon after, but if it was that bumb Suge he should get his frame split open.

All I gotta say is it don't matter Pac's gone B.I.G. is gone...and Pac is a legend B.I.G. is a trader.

West Coast rap? They're still a lot of underground rappers in the bay area around California that are ripping it up, just haven't made it big yet. I'm pretty sure some of them will make it soon.

As for Pac being alive? I think he would've left death row because he was already planning to. He told his crew the outlaws, not to resign with death row because he was planning on starting his own label. As to who I think he would roll with, mainly the outlaws and definitely not with g-unit and 50 cent. For the reason of me thinking this, is Fatal who did songs with Ja Rule dissing g-unit. Fatal and Kadafi was the closest to Pac and Fatal listened to Pac and didn't sign with death row again while the rest did. Well that's what I think.

As for the death of the two artist? There's two theory I believe are possible: 1) the one you stated pancake on #1 and 2) Surge Knight set up the whole thing. The reason why I believe that Surge set it up is because Pac was gonna leave the label. Killing Pac would allow him to keep the records he made so Surge would be able to make the money. But either way, I believe the man is dead.

Ludacris? I guess his flow is laid back and kinda monotone. Kind of reminds me Guru, but not quite.

Why you think Biggie is a trader?

Personally I don't believe Biggie did anything wrong, except maybe the alleged rumors he killed Pac!

The first time Pac got shot was because of BIG. Pac knows BIG had something to do with they way they acted when he got shot.

Everything P Diddy said about not shooting Pac, Pac came back with a better statement.



BIG- God knows the truth


PAC- There's no religion to getting shot.




BIG- WHO SHOT YA

PAC- Ends up getting shot


Everyone can give BIG props but me & PAC won't

Hehe, I didn't have my head in this whole case...but I believe B.I.G. and P.Diddy had something to do with the death of Pac, and I'm guessing one of Pac's associates killed B.I.G. in return, or hired an assassin. If I were thinking who in the world would want B.I.G. dead the most is someone who associates with Pac, and I can say Suge Knight. Lol, its like a double bladed sword, except that one side is dull. If Suge Knight had an assassin (or cop) kill B.I.G., i'm thinking he would have inherited the money from the songs Pac left behind and avenged Pac's death...if he even cared about him. I guess its a West Coast thing.

And I agree, Tupac shouldn't have kept the Gangbanging in his life. Its keeping your street credibilty,--

--I mean, most mainstream rappers today probably rap about 'Hood shots, fights and violence' when they didn't even shoot a gun--

--yet keeping your street credibility would ruin your career...as proven in Pac's case. I think its just best to rap about the hardships of the hood, instead of the attitude that has kids dress up in gangster outfits. And rap about what happened in your hood (like a story) instead of what your going to do in the hood. Because now Cassidy done something wrong with a gun, we might have another dead rapper.

Well, I'm pretty sure no one will ever get a definite answer to what really happened unless we traveled back into time. I remember back some years ago while i was channel surfing, I stopped and watched the Jenny Jones show. It was a look alike thingy. Well, this was about a couple months after Tupac's death and then Jenny Jones goes into the crowd and says something like "We have a guest in the audience that looks exactly like a belated rapper." The guy stands up and he looked exactly like Tupac. If he stood next to Pac, i swear i wouldn't be able to tell a difference. That was really interesting to me at that time, i swore Pac was alive and that was him pretending to be someone else..haha the thought.

Hmm..well with Pac dead, Suge would've received all the rights to Tupac's song anyways. Afeni had to sue them to get the rights of the song to her label that she started for Pac. I believe Suge didn't really care much for Pac, just considered him as someone he could make money off of.