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Yasha
I heard that quote a while back in around the world in 80 days lol.

But, that makes me wonder about where these legends originate. Maybe some people saw bigfoot and started telling everyone? Then, with time and no valid sightings, it has become a legend?

Of course there's a possibility on both sides, some crazed person may have started it. I'm not completely 100% on this idea, but think of it as a possibility.
aquatus1
I believe the quote is "Most legends have a basis in fact." Not truth.

Fact generally refers to things which are knoen to be real and likely. Bigfoot is the legend. A guy seeing a bear through the woods at night would be a factual basis. Saying that the legend of Bigfoot sprang from a sighting of Bigfoot kind of defeats the purpose of the quote.
Yasha
Well then around the world in 80 days changed it lol.
But I see what you mean. What could the loch ness have been though? I can't think of a creature that could resemble it that's not prehistoric.
zandore
Native Americans have been seeing Big Foot for centuries. Having to depend on knowing their surrounding to live I think they would know a bear from Big Foot.
aquatus1
QUOTE(Yasha @ Jan 16 2005, 05:55 PM)
Well then around the world in 80 days changed it lol.
But I see what you mean. What could the loch ness have been though? I can't think of a creature that could resemble it that's not prehistoric.
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I can't think of one that is pre-historic. Nothing with a neck like that could have such prehensile strength, to be able to lift it above the water like Nessie is supposed to.

Personally, I find that the great majority of these legends are repeated entirely too similarly throughout the world. That include 'wild men', lake monsters, 'dragons', and all those fantastical creatures. One option is that, somehow, a series of similar creatures throughout the globe somehow evolved into similar configurations, despite the incredibly different environmental factors involved. Another is that they are all part of a similar evolutionary line, but were somehow spread throughout the world and have left absoutely no trace of themselves or of their travels throughout the world behind.

A third is that the animals do not exist at all, and the similarities are not do to the awesome coincidences that would be involved in the first two options, but rather in the one single factor common to all these stories; the humans. Perhaps the sightings of these monsters is simply an aspect of the human psyche; a holdover from the primitive fears that there is something more to us, something we cannot hyet understand that grew out of our basic survival instinct. Perhaps the reason these creatures exist all over the world, is because the humans all over the world make up the stories. In my opinion, these monsters are nothing more than the modern version of the archetypes humans have always had and used in their storytelling.
Yasha
Sorry, what I had meant by my statement was that I could not think of a modern day creature with a physical resemblance to loch ness, by vision.

But my main question in this thread is basically "Where do these legends originate?"

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a holdover from the primitive fears that there is something more to us, something we cannot hyet understand that grew out of our basic survival instinct. Perhaps the reason these creatures exist all over the world, is because the humans all over the world make up the stories.


Perhaps there is something more to us, Bigfoot=mutation of us? In certain birds different colours are described as mutations, so I am not referring to mutations as some weird creepy thing that makes us have to be isolated or such.
Mysteryman
From only what I know based on legends, any legend as you know could start from an experience or a connection or knowledge between the actual subject that is being talked about. Like someone mentioned before, if someone has observed, spotted, or alteast thought of what a bear could be, anyone could basically bring up a legend bringing the idea that they have been with or spotted this unknown cryptid or idea.
Heavens Angel
Or perhaps since our brain picks up what we hear seriously someone may have mistaken a bear for Bigfoot because usually we'll see something and our brain will assume right away what it probebly is.
Mysteryman
True. In most cases, when people spot something, they quickly assume that it is something beyond of what they know of or something that is totally off. When frightened, the brain is known to make things appear ways that aren't literally happening, understanding what your saying...
Wild_Woman
QUOTE(Yasha @ Jan 16 2005, 05:55 PM)
Well then around the world in 80 days changed it lol.
But I see what you mean. What could the loch ness have been though? I can't think of a creature that could resemble it that's not prehistoric.
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the loch ness legend, from what i remember in a book i read, was when some lord/laird/whatever was living in the castle by the lake and his son/self was getting dragged into the lake/loch by something that ended up being known as the monster. now the report could have been garbled by time and the effect of chinese whispers, but it started as a tale of the his son/self fell/got taken into the lake.
it started as a fact, but now everyone who goes to loch ness sees a monbster from the garbled retelling of an age old story.
Shai_Hulud
The truth hidden within legend is propablly humans ability for self deception, increduity and propensity for exaggeration
Lord_Kazius
interesting theory, but in my opinion boths sides of it are right, some legends are based on truth but some are also based on fiction as moral boosters or just normal stories to pass by the time.
educated cAVEmAN
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Or perhaps since our brain picks up what we hear seriously someone may have mistaken a bear for Bigfoot because usually we'll see something and our brain will assume right away what it probebly is


that may be true for nowadays...in fact i BELEIVE it to be true for many things like the jersy devil... but what about the FIRST sighting...people couldnt have seen a bear and thought it was a sasquatch because the tale wouldnt have started yet... it was probably more likely that it went like this....ppl see a sasquatch and think its a bear because they are not aware of what it really is bec ause the "legend" hadnt started yet


i beleive most legend like dracula or werewolves have a bit of truth to them...

dracula=canibles?
werewolves=ppl with lycanthropy?...(i think thats the word for it...basicly people who THINK they are wolves)

stuff like that
Lord_Kazius
exactly how can someone mistake a sighting of a bear for that of a sasquatch, if the legend doesnt exist and no one is aware of what it is?
and also what about credible sightings such as people who know what a bear looks like or see something in broad daylight.......
Mysteryman
QUOTE(Wild_Woman @ Jan 16 2005, 09:52 PM)
QUOTE(Yasha @ Jan 16 2005, 05:55 PM)
Well then around the world in 80 days changed it lol.
But I see what you mean. What could the loch ness have been though? I can't think of a creature that could resemble it that's not prehistoric.
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the loch ness legend, from what i remember in a book i read, was when some lord/laird/whatever was living in the castle by the lake and his son/self was getting dragged into the lake/loch by something that ended up being known as the monster. now the report could have been garbled by time and the effect of chinese whispers, but it started as a tale of the his son/self fell/got taken into the lake.
it started as a fact, but now everyone who goes to loch ness sees a monbster from the garbled retelling of an age old story.
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This is an example of a fictional legend (hopefully and most likely) where people could just make anything up to get their position of what is now present day.

QUOTE(Lord_Kazius @ Jan 17 2005, 11:32 AM)
interesting theory, but in my opinion boths sides of it are right, some legends are based on truth but some are also based on fiction as moral boosters or just normal stories to pass by the time.
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Totally agree. Some legends could be made to get to where the subject is now and some could be secretly hidden to be telling the truth, though may contain some exaggerated parts of fictional tales...
Dezmond
I also think some legends have something true in them.

I would love to check every place where they spotted some cryptid. To check for myself.
But I will probably never have the money to go to such places.
Mysteryman
True...Their are such extroadinary places out in our world. Some cant be visited, some can't go near (Stonehenge) anymore due to graffiti and lack of treatment, and some are just hidden and are to never be found.

Now you don't realize how much I would sacrifice to uncover the things Tomb Raider Laura Croft has...
Lord_Kazius
Go tomb raider! YAY!
mr_halo
QUOTE(Mysteryman @ Jan 17 2005, 07:16 PM)
True...Their are such extroadinary places out in our world. Some cant be visited, some can't go near (Stonehenge) anymore due to graffiti and lack of treatment, and some are just hidden and are to never be found.

Now you don't realize how much I would sacrifice to uncover the things Tomb Raider Laura Croft has...
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i know, years ago you could walk on the stonehenge rocks and everything, not anymore, you can only see them from a distance...

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