now this is the correct frame of mind

who truly knows... that is a question i would be asking myself...

a question you would ask? so you're not talking to yourself, good.

I'm glad you made that realization.

No, there are no truly reliable sources on this topic. The only real source we have would be documents created to record the "existance of vampires". Many of these sources, however, are often times deeply rooted in mythology, and in many times the Christian Church, the farther back you go in time. Therefore, the older the source, the more likely it has been tainted by religious fervor or a mistelling in oral tradition.

Also, vampire descriptions do not cross over international lines with much, if any, consistancy. There are the "traditional" vampires of literature, the Obayifo of Africa that lived in trees and pulled children off of the ground with spidery legs, the Chinese transforming Chaing-Shi, the psychic German Nachzehrer, the almost succubus-like Langsuir of Malaya.... the list goes on.....

These are the vampires of fiction and myth. These are not the people who live day to day as a vampire. However, these are the vampires that have been documented throughout history as being vampires. Were they a figment of religious imaginations? I believe so. This, however, is the only form of vampire that I have found to be closely documented in each individual culture. And, they are also the vampires that are not associated with the softer emotions of human beings.....

Oh, and my statement before about literary vampires was slightly untrue. Although fictional vampires did appear in works before hand, it wasn't until Goethe's ballad Die Braut von Cortinth that vampires became known to a large literary audience.... not Stoker's Dracula in 1897.

Research Girl Signing Out....

Finally, an educated person. That brings up an old thought I had. Do you think that, despite whether or not something began as a delusion, even that delusion had to have started out as something, and so I wonder what could that first thing have been?

Don't know if you guys are interested, but I was doing some research based on this thread and found some interesting sites:

http://www.100megsfree4.com/farshores/pvamp03.htm

http://www.shroudeater.com/avhunter.htm

Damn vampire hunters. you can never find one devoted enough to chase you across the Pacific ocean

When a lot of you say you believe in the existence of vampires, do you also believe that their immortal...

NO

But the truth behind vampires is that their immortal - what makes up part of a vampire is the fact that they are immortal; how could you believe in the existence of vampires then...

If you look at old myths of vampires, none of the ones I have read stated they were immortal(other than fiction). If you consider them immortal, then you take them out of the realm of a real creature. Once again, I don't believe in them,but I would be more inclined to accept creature that was a different species or different natural condition then one that was immortal. You start going into the metaphysical if you believe them immortal. People like the concept of immortality, because the are unsure of an afterlife(me for instance.)

Ok..So thats answered... How about this
For all those people who believe vampires exist, do you believe there are actually people who are born with fangs for the adaptation to kill humans and suck their blood usually out of the neck?

If someone drinks too much blood won't it make you throw up?

And vampires as in Blade or something, are a pile of rubbish.

There are people out in this world who drink blood - there already used to it so theres no reason to throw up from it...If its well taken care of blood, then it contains nutrients that could be provided for the body. The blood itself doesn't make you throw up, its picturing it. But some people believe they live off of it and drink it as if it were water.

Picturing blood is not what makes you throw up. I have a fascination with blood, and actually, on occasion, enjoy the taste of it (sucking it from a cut on my body or something like that.... not an intentional cut for the purpose of blood, but say, for instance, a papercut....). Despite my absolute non-disgust with blood, I have experienced some minor stomach illness afterwards.

Mysteryman-
I don't believe that there are people "born with fangs for the adaptation to kill humans and suck their blood usually out of the neck". I believe there are people who have abnormally long canines.... because I know a few who do. However, I don't think that humans who believe they are vampires are born with this to help them eat. Many invest in having their canines filed into fangs, or in having special fang attachments made that glue over their existing teeth.

i beleive in vampirism to an extent.. i dont beleive in the whole immortal thing, or the supernatural power aspect of it, but as to the idea of people having a disease that requires human blood, of course.
and for the fang thing, i have naturally log canines, hence the name "Nosferatu"

log canines,eh? And yes, your right about not believing the whole immortal thing.

How about someone elses blood? Or the occasional pig or cow...maybe?

First off, there is no truth behind "vampires" it's all myth and/or speculation.
Secondly, immortality is a human impossibility, so that part of this "myth" is obviously fake. So believing in a mortal vampire is easy enough. Although, immortality is quite appealing

I will admit, I have tasted another person's blood once before. It was a tiny suck of blood from a cut that was already healing, so it only left the slight flavor in my mouth. I don't have an interest to do it again, mostly because of possible health risks involved, that and I think I taste much better than he did.

I would not have a problem with tasting cow or pig blood.... but I don't believe I would really enjoy drinking it. Blood is an interesting taste for me, but I don't crave it and I wouldn't drink it ("Drink" implying that I am having more than a sip or lick of it).

Your right, but I mean its all about "Picturing it in your mind" Like you could eat something gross, its putting your mind up to it if you really want to do it...I didnt mean it like that lol, know what I mean?

Um... No, I suppose I don't know what you mean.... I haven't needed to "put my mind to it" in order to become mildly queazy after tasting blood.... Or do you mean that I need to tell myself that something disgusting is something good, and that's how I can not get sick? But, I didn't think it was disgusting in the first place.... Maybe you should try explaining again.

All those weirdo's claiming to be vampires are a disgrace to the real ones walking out there.

"Yes Im a psychic vampire blablabla, I can drain your energy with my mind"



Sure you can.....*SIGH !*

"NO no ! look at me, look at my pic. Its really me, I only moderated it a bit with photoshop, so thats the proof Im a real vampire"



Man, how sad can you be.

Heard that!!!

Ok, let me try this again. Theres a program every now and then titeld "Fear Factor". In this show game, people have to do gross stunts, balancing stunts, and scary stunts, in order to beat everyone else to getting $50,000. Now many people have fear of heights, animals, or even eating gross foods (such as cow brains). The people want that $50,000 really bad. In order to swallow this gross food, walk these high beams, and deal with the electrifying shocking eels or other animals, they have to put their minds up to it. When they have to put their minds up to it, they have to say to themselves "I can do this, I can do this, I know I can do this, I want that $50,000 really bad, and I will win with that $50,000" Putting your mind up to it is saying to yourself and giving yourself confidence. "I have to put my mind up to it, I can win that $50,000!" Basically, its an expression you say to have confidence in yourself and show you that if you really want to do this, you can, just picture it as spaghetti and meatballs instead of cowbrains, picture yourself walking on a beam laying on the floor instead of thousands of feet high, picturing your dealing with dogs and could ignore them instead of swimming through electric eels and getting shocked by them. This is what I mean by "Putting your mind up to it".

Understand?

whether someone has written this already or not doesnt matter. I'm gonna say it.

the first ''classical'' vampire was thought up by the famous novelist Bram Stoker.

So no....traditional vampires DO NOT exist.

YES! I am reading Dracula right now by Bram Stoker.

DRACULA by Bram Stoker was the first real made up vampire conducted into a book by Bram Stoker. The idea of vampire was created and published by Bram Stoker. Their might have been other people who thought about blood sucking beings, but Bram Stoker was the first person to ever actually publish the factual and ideas of vampires. Dracula was the first book to be known for the existence in fictional wise of vampires.

What about "Varney the Vampire"? I do believe that may have been published before Dracula. Although Varney was a disgusting bloodsucking fiend and more akin to the original vampire legend than Bram Stokers "classic" vampire..

SUch a long thread about a cryptid no one here really believes in . Pretty pathetic creature it is. Some ppl here claims they are "Pyschic Vampires" and came out with some weak reason how it works but then theres an old saying that "misery loves company" which is very apt for that situation. Now I have to say I have some fascination with blood myself, it is a very vibrant colour and it is the "life" that flows through our veins. ANcient cultures certainly believes that blood is a vital component of the body no wonder they invented creatures that steal it.

vampires? you gotta be kidding? they were a creation of bram stoker (traditional ones anyways) and were most likely inspired from the vampire bat.

Remember that they are as many differnt types of Vampires as there are cultures that fear them.

vampires? VAMPIRES? what the hell?...thats worse then my wearwolf thoughts..anyway i think the closest u can get to vampires is people who like to drink blood...which is real...so u can still be worried about someone draining ur blood while u sleep but dont be scared of bats and forget the wooden steak and garlic...bring out the shotty

Correct, the "classic" vampire published story was an actual to be believed vampire story. It became very popular too instantly. Though I haven't heard of the story "Varney the Vampire" though I will check it out.



Many people believe in the existence of the truth behind vampires. Like you, people also have fascinations with blood and start to drink it like you say. Though they, as in blood-sucking humans are not considered to be "vampires".



Supporting what I say with "Dracula".

The Highgate Vampire was finally dispatched by a vampire hunter named Sean Manchester, a reverend. It took several years since at the time of the 1970 mass vampire hunt, ignorant amateur hunters were running around and Sean Manchester had a few people on his team unwilling to break the descration of corpse laws in England. So at the time he sealed up the tomb it was found in. He then later ran into the vampire again somewhere else in England and was able to stake it, and put it into the rays of the sun. Pictures on his site of vampire decomposing.

Of course they are check out my site: www.vampiredreams.tk

Man Vampires Are real as me and u wanna know how i know?


Because i am Half i Was bit but something went wrong in the process of the biting!

dude theive been around a long time but no where near millions of years but yea they r rel vampires [/b]CANT turn into bats its imposible!

We have been around longer than most religions. However, for ever religion, there are hundreds of stories about us. Though they are quite mythological as they have picked up quite a lot of flavor over the centuries.

How come iit is always the 15 year olds that get turned into vampires? Give me a break.

Ehh... They always say they become one just to get attention...

Angst-ridden teens strike again (and so what if I am one [a teen, i mean])!

You all are lost when it comes to this subject. You look too deeply into the popular side of it. None of you have any say on this if you do not know what I know.

What do you know then? I'd love to hear it, and so would everyone else.

that's right

First off, let us shed all that we think we know from books, movies, and google searches, shall we?

If your saying your a vampire, I am saying I don't believe you. Thats just how it is.

I know what he's saying... There really are vampires out there...for real... but not the way you would expect. They don't go around killing each other by sucking their blood from their jugular or anything, but there are actual sects (i guess you could call them that) that get together and all agree to let people peirce their skin, and drink their blood...Some do is as a form of religion, some just do it as an alternative way of life. If somebody says they are a vampire, they are proabaly telling the truth, unless they try to convince you that they are the movie stereo-typical vampires, then don't believe them.










Mind Freak has spoken!

It seems our friend here does indeed have more than half a mind. Yes, I am a vampire, but I am different from everything that you have ever heard of. My claim of vampiricy comes from my heritage rather than wanting to become. If you do not believe, that is your own strife. We do not require you to believe. All we ask is that you listen when the time comes.

So come on people Vampires are so not real. They are just people who think they are vampires.

You're not weird.. I'm not sure if i believe in them or not, It would be cool to thinks so though. Like my teacher said just becuase you havn't seen something doens't mean it's not there, like a foreign country. Just because u never been there doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Well anyways, i don't think living off of blood is healthy....

"Vampires" are merely the end result of a child who didn't get all the attention they wanted when maturing, now grown, they still have a want of attention and so must set themselves apart from the common group. They want people to look at them, so they think up something gruesome to make themselves into (really, whos going to marvel at your "dark soul" if you walk around everywhere dressed as a bunny?) so they decide to say that they are a vampire. I would be interested in learning the average age of all the "vampires" in the world, or even this forum for that matter, I would guess it's between 12 and 17. There is simply no such thing as a vampire, at least not in the way you are all talking about them. There are emotional vampires, people who make you depressed just by having to be around them (its a drag) but not blood suckers.