I'm not going to reread 30 pages of posts to look for the reference to where he states he is a "Psyvamp." Sorry, but stating that he can drain another person's "energy" is a clear reference to being a "Psyvamp"

Your credibility for not reading the thread and trying to say he isn't something that he has openly claimed to be - 100

You wish you were standing next to me? Why? So you too, could drain my chi? Make me more depressed? What's the fork, nails, and knife for? Got a Christmas tree you want to decorate?

I know it's hard to believe, but neither you or Vladmir or whatever are vampires. If you think you are, then I say a homeless man who sits in front of your job and drains money out of your pockets twice a day is a vampire. Oprah Winfrey is a vampire for sucking the life out of late afternoon television. A small child is a vampire for drinking a thick milkshake from a straw. You can use all kinds of stupid examples from every day life and claim to be an "UNHOLY VAMPIRE." Sadly, you're just a run of the mill, average, every day Joe just trying to get by, JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.

Furthermore, Vladmir claims a vampiristic heritage.... correct? Since vampirism isn't like the books say, he can be anything he wants to be. In other words, move to a different city and reject the things he was "stuck with" at birth. Short of plastic surgery, he could be a whole different person. He speaks of it as if it were a curse and he had no choice (Hey, sounds like Lestat!!), but being human, the fact he isn't the walking dead, he obviously does have a choice, and he has chosen to live in this fantasy world.

You know, I could make up my very own creature... Like, I could say I am a decendant of Ancient Times (to include the druids), and that I am a Nachodian. That's right, I'm a Nachodian. If you listen to me, I can provide references (via the glorious world of Google - My home planet), and can show you Hieroglyphs that depict where my ancestory originated. Then, I can go on and give you names of individuals throughout history that were members of this sect, and my bloodline, who have supernatural powers of the mind. We are a peaceful race, and we are reclusive (I swear, I'm not a vampire). Hardly anyone knows about us because we wish to live in secrecy and don't want people to fear us and evntually kill us off. We drink cow blood (now you know where all these cattle mutilations have come from, sorry dear brethern for unmasking our dark secret) as a yearly ritual that brings us closer to enlightnment. We built stonehenge and contrary to what everyone believes, it is not a calendar, but a teleport. We are Gods, and that's all I can say. I really wish I could change, but I was born to this heritage. Oh Snap!

Stupidity Gain +3,000 for making up a lame story!

The only difference is that you two aren't playing video games. You're just role playing

I want them to reply, I'm enjoying this.

Did you go on his website? They are both from Hawaii....
Also I did go here: http://www.haemavore.com/ and it is pretty interesting... someone posted it earlier... it gives the different types of vampires...
So Arsenik what kind of vampire are you?

He claimed to be a "Psyvampire" in an earlier post. In other words, he can "drain" people's energy.

hmm.. interesting. Where is this dude anyways... I am very interested in what he has to say.

A lot of people can do that, it's called being dull

I avoid these "vampires" by steering clear of "business meetings." It's one of their secrets.

hahaha! You know what.... I guess I am a vampire too. I drain my boyfriend's energy when I ask him repeatedly to do something

He drinks blood, is oddly powerful, and when you are around him [in -person-!] he -does- have an odd mental effect on you.
The light wouldn't hurt his eyes if he was an Anne Rice Vampire, which he's not, it's artificial. It's not a cult, you are free to join or leave at any time. And I do cut myself, but he never told me to, why he even told me to STOP!
Why would he drink the blood of a virgin only?
He is not a vampire like you've read, I don't even really get him yet. if you met him, you'd understand.........

"Sanguinarians
Humans who through choice or urge have become partly haemavorous.
Some style themselves after true Vampires or Vampires of myth or popular fiction, some are ordinary people for whom blood-drinking is an exciting diversion in their lives and some use blood as an aide to sexual excitement.
Whatever the reason for being a Mortal blood-drinker, a huge culture exists to support them. Most choose to advertise for blood doners or purchase it from blood banks if the laws in their country allow it. They take enormous care to ensure that the blood is not tainted with HIV, Hepatitis or other potentially harmful impurities.
The correct or preferred term for a blood-drinking human is a Sanguinarian.
You can find links to various support sites for human 'Vampires' the Links page. "

From: "http://www.haemavore.com/"

I am begggining to understand what he meant!
He said that TROU are the 'true sanguinarians'.

Why not drink untainted virginal blood? I would if I was a vampire... it's not tainted with disease like AIDS or any other STD that travels via bloodstream.
And if you do drink blood, are you checking it beforehand to make sure it is not an infectious one? And if you don't check, do you still get hurt by drinking it? Would you still get AIDS?
I know there are people out there that are obsessed by the romantic theory of being a vampire. I will honestly admit that I was totally fasinated by in when I was a small girl.
But if you are what you say you are, then why are you openly admitting it on internet forums?! Unexplained Mysteries, no less! It makes no sense. Honestly all it is telling me is you are a little girl that is probably into goth that feels there is no one around that understands her need to not be original.
Please don't take too much offense to this. I am not meaning to be disrespectful by any means. It just is something I have a hard time believing in.

What are you 10??? why doesn't someone just report this stupid dribble and have it removed...but then again I can't help but wonder if you all like the entertainment

I am not crazy!
Arsenik! Come help! They're callin me crazy!

Umm yeah we are going to call you crazy if your explaining how you would torture people on the forum.
Just go to a different post and stop causing issues on this one

insane_potatoes, i've removed several of your posts which are not suitable for this forum.

I'm going to be sending you a message, i suggest you read it carefully.

Ohh noo please anyone but Arsenic *quivers* gimme a break

lol. I don't think either will be posting. Why would they now? lol.. too bad though... it was getting mighty amusing

Back on topic please.

Of course they'll come back, they've been here for more than 30 pages. Stop mocking them guys, I for one intend to avoid the childish temptation of just making fun, I shall engage this debate with the powers of logic, and science!

But there has been no scientific proof that Vampires are real, there has been and never will be...unless I am missing something here!!

Which is why I see myself as having an advantage...

Just a quick question for Arsenik:

When you say vampire, do you mean you just enjoy the taste of blood?

It would make alot more sense, since there are actually people like this who refer to themselves as vampires. Though, if that's all it takes to be a vampire it's not very impressive, just a bit vile in my opinion.

I'm nearly positive Arse said that he didn't drink blood... yet his "daughter" claims he does. He stated he drains people's energy, yet she said he is not a "Psyvampire."

The contradictions are endless.

hmm well it's a bit hard to not make fun or "mock" when no one is staying on topic.
As for them coming back... well from what I know, this topic is not about whether they are vampires. It's just interesting that they "believe" they are... bah anyways there is no such thing as vampires. I will believe it when I see it first hand. From the transition of becoming a blood sucking humanoid to being so called "human" again.

The Queen of Romania in the middle ages was a vampire ( why does that not surprise me

It should surprise you....vampires aren't real

well actually if u mean vampires by people who consume huge amounts of human blood then yes they do and the Queen of romainia killed her subjects and drank their blood in hopes oh retaining her youth however she just got beheaded instead ( ps i mean't that didn't surprise me because romania is where Sir Dracula ruled and he also drank blood )

dracula "son of dracul", dracul was the cruel leader of romania who enjoyed dropping puppies from towers and stiking heads on pikes, he was the inspiration for dracula the FICTION novel based on a FICTIONAL monster, to show cruelty and whatnot in its purest form...vampires arent real, and if you claim to be one, ill claim you arent real.

I never meant for anything I do to be that impressive. I only do enough to make a difference in some peoples opinions.

you didnt try to be impressive , you just are , it takes alt of guts to say what you really are and not care what noobs say about it

okay , everyone seriously , just accept the fact that they exist and stop acting all smart and like you know every thing just because you have been told that they don't exist , some people out there need to be seriously bitched slapped , if you can belive in god , and accept that some how we got here , ever so blindly , then have some so called faith that there are other things out there , that aren't so pleasant

And yet still certain people cannot accept something that is absolutely biologically impossible, perhaps that is something a bit darker and not so pleasant for you that you need to accept, do you know any vampires? Can you get us video? Audio? Photographs? If not, you cannot reasonably accept people to "accept the fact" when there is no fact to present for acceptance.

Of course there are unpleasant things out there. But for example, I am a fan of the horror writer H.P. Lovecraft, if I were to go around telling people the the Necronomicon was a real conjuring book and that I was personally enslaved by the will of some monster from under the sea, would they believe me? Would you believe me because it is one of my own beliefs? No, obviously not, you would all think me crazy and try to prove me wrong. This situation is no different, a person has a certain belief about themself and tells a large number of people, these people then find the first person's statement to be false in their opinion and try to convince the first of their mentality.

Perhaps you should acknowledge the "fact" that we don't know if there is a god or not, we Don't know how we got here and maybe never will. Have a little so called faith, and trust that the answers will present themselves in due time and stop atributing every mystery of the world to some "higher power", be they divine, vampiric, or otherwise.

Thank you for typing that jobot37.

Rasani do you believe that Arsenik is a vampire? And if you do, why do you believe? Do you have solid Facts to show us??

Vampires..hmm I would most deffinatly say real. Just because there are no incidents about them in the newspapers doesn't mean they do not walk amoung us or beneath us for that matter. Yes, there are alot of "vampire cults" and people who think that because they drink blood they are a vampire. I beleive being a true vampire is much deeper then that. Scientists have a way of "diagnosing" everything that comes along it's path. "Oh, this fellow likes to drink blood and claims to be a vampire...let's find out what's wrong" That have diagnosed it being that there is not enough hemoglobin in his/her system so they have them take medication and the problem is solved. They hide what they can not explain by medication. Now I'm babbaling and you probably have no idea what I'm talking about..

Hi everybodyy
why are you guys still talking about this? Vampires(as the ones in the movies) do not exist. On the other hand, people who like drinking blood and *think* they are vampires exist, but they are generally posers or mentally disturbed people. There's even a psychological name for that disease but I can't remember right now :-D

Yes, there is a "disease" the doctors and scientists claim they have found for blood-drinkers. Where do you think the myth started? In a book...Dracula. If he was not real why would someone write such a terrible story, just like with rumors, everything starts with a grain of truth.

There are myths of terrible mosters in eastern Europe that attack peasants and drink their blood and mutilate their bodies beyond recognition. That is the grain of truth, people have warped this to their own ideals, the original vampires could not transform, had no power over animals, and most certainly were not human in any way shape or form, they were abominations to be feared and hunted. Yes, we all know exactly what you are talking about, you have no special knowledge on the subject and likely cannot provide any information which has not been stated in this thread before. Vampires are obviously false, the creations of primitive people to explain away the science in their lives they did not understand, perhaps the stories of vampires were even meant specifically to frighten children into being home by nightfall, or to explain disappearences of members of the community when they were more likely attacked by animals which is what the original vampires truly were. Vampire cults are easily explained away as the product of attention starved teens growing up and finding other people like themselves, they wage a subconcious "one-uppping" war with each other to see who can be the most dark and disturbing. In short, they never grow up. As for the poor folks afflicted with such a hemoglobin defficiency, that is very tragic and medication is what they need. A person cannot add more hemoglobin into their system by ingesting the blood of others, blood is produced from bone marrow, not the stomach. The medication recieved by such patients is a chemical that stimulates the bone marrow to produce more hemoglobin and blood, it is not in itself hemoglobin.


*sigh* I thought we were done with this subject. I had such high hopes after this had been left alone for so many days.

I would LOVE for this thread to be closed, in my opinion, no one has anything left to say. So if any like-minded mods see this, I would completely support a decision to close this. Think of this thread as a vampire itself, its seen far too much time in the limelight, let it crumble.

No one has special knowledge on the subject...it's just the thoughts people have and then they discuss it. You are not likely to provide proof that they don't exist, besides that they are just stories...myth whatever you care to call it. I just always felt they were real somehow...somewhere.

It's logically impossible to prove something doesn't exist, so I assume they do not exist until someone can prove they do.....which they can't.

Well, you can't prove they don't exist either so I suppose it means there is 50/50 chance on them being real or not.

you dont believe in vampires do you . what if i told you that if you reply to me you would be incidently talking to one? i do drink blood and Im sensitive to sunlight and i can drain someone of their energy from more than five feet away pretty scary is it not?

Even if possibly they do exist in this world of reality they probably are in hiding or like in the movie Blade and Underworld they organized themselves to own companys that are related to hospitals and blood banks in the world so they have a constant supply of food and won't have to hunt humans for their meals.

Until actual proof is shone of vampires instead of a pic of a dude in his basement, biting on a manikin, wearing fake vampire teeth with kecthup stains all over himself. Vampires will always remain a figment of the imagination and creation of horror movie makers.

I know a lot of people who drain people of their energy (*rimshot*). That makes them annoying and people that others avoid, but it doesn't make them "vampires". =)

Being sensitive to sunlight and drinking blood doesn't make you a vampire any more than standing in a garage and yelling "HOOOONK" makes you a car.

To truly begin to understand the legend, you must first look at the aspects that created that legend in the first place. Science has explained some of the things that caused people to believe vampires existed. Haemoblobin deficiency has been mentioned, as has photosensitivity and dental differences.

A few small examples:
The idea of stakes being driven through the heart requires exhumation of the body, which gave sway to many other "signs of the vampire". Bodies suspected of being vampires often had scratch marks inside the coffin accompianied by signs the body had moved, excessive swelling and blood seeping from the nose, mouth and sometimes eyes (supposedly because the vampire had fed so much it couldn't comtain it all).
These signs have been discredited due to modern science. For instance, we are aware that it was common to bury people alive in the previous centuries, especially during times of mass illness. It was so common that when it was discovered, in England they left bells that could be rung from inside the coffin to alert someone in case the person woke up. Naturally, before this happened, the person would awake and try to escape, eventually suffocating to death (accounting for the movements of the bodies and the marks on the coffins).
Science also accounts for the bloating discovered, we now know this is part of the natural decomposition process. The blood is a sign of post-mortem purging (where a bloody fluid leaks from orifices after death). It's all perfectly natural, but easy to misunderstand.
If you add the likes of Vlad the Impaler and Elizabeth Bathory, coupled with the insane superstition of the times, it's hardly surprising the evidence gave way to hysteria and legend. People forget that the areas where the vampire was most prevalent where areas where superstition, magic and fear of the unknown were important aspects of daily life. Same thing happened with werewolves, which was most likely spawned by the unfortunate people who suffered from hypertrichosis.
Either way, if vampires existed at any time, they certainly wouldn't be anything like in the movies.

BLoodLust said:
ill tell u 1 thing vampires do not exist (wrong they do ) if they did there would be lots of thing about them in the news. Thats rubish!! they could be stealthy creatures of the night and not much different to you or i (exept the urge for blood(they dont kill when drinking) and the fact they prefer the night) personally i'm a beliver.

Not. And no I do not believe that by responding to your post I'm talking to a vampire. You are not a vampire, you are a person (most likely a teenager) in want for attention. I could elaborate, I won't, I've written it too many times before in this topic, read the other posts.

I like to be safe not sorry so yes they do.

I would say you did not exist

there once was an algerian tribe of canibals with elonged canines, that's probably where the myth came from.

THE TRUTH!!!! IT HURTS!


Hah, anyways, in all seriousness, I'm not sure about vampires, I just think it's a mental thing... Not sure though.