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jobot37
QUOTE(AnuKabal @ Jan 13 2006, 08:27 AM) [snapback]1019481[/snapback]

there once was an algerian tribe of canibals with elonged canines, that's probably where the myth came from.


Actually, I've heard the myth originated in Eastern Europe among Hungarian Peasants attempting to explain strnage disappearences of animals and villagers, so they created a monster (what the vampire always really was and always will be) as a tool to help them understand their world in an age without any real science.

On another note, vampires, however fake they may be (which they are) are described as monsters, beasts, and the like, they are animals, not suave figures or shape-shifters. They are mindless beasts, go look up Nosferatu, thats a lot closer to what the original vampire was.
AnuKabal
Some cultures got the vamps from that tribe though.
E_Rizzle374
THEY ARE REEL N HAVE PRINCES AND GENERALS AND EVERY THING IS FAKE EKCEPT 4 THYE STAK AND PICTURES PM ME 4 MO INFO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLZ grin2.gif
Kitsune
I dunno if they are or not. But I certainly would like to get acquainted with one. Oh.. forget what I said. I'm being insane today. They're rather interesting creatures, them. And interesting so that we had an rpg to vamps and lycans XD. Go shoot.

All I know bout them is that there's the blood vampires, and the psy vampires. And a load of misconceptions. Ahem.
64lowrider
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THEY ARE REEL N HAVE PRINCES AND GENERALS AND EVERY THING IS FAKE EKCEPT 4 THYE STAK AND PICTURES PM ME 4 MO INFO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLZ


you have obviously read the saga of darren shan
jpatt
Yet can't spell "real". =D I kid.

Heaven's Sword
I'm not sure if anyones mentioned this before, but theres alot of pages to go through so i'll say it.

There is a condition where peolpe have a lack of haemoglobin in their blood. and some people (the weird ones) dont go for treatment but instead drink blood. it just so happens that human blood has the most haemoglobin in it...hello vampires.
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64lowrider
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There is a condition where peolpe have a lack of haemoglobin in their blood. and some people (the weird ones) dont go for treatment but instead drink blood. it just so happens that human blood has the most haemoglobin in it...hello vampires.
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exactly. and some people suffer from that and phorphyria or whatever its called which means you are really sensitive 2 sunlight
rhylin
Hey I posted this on the other vampire forum but I found it wicked interesting:
http://video.msn.com/v/us/v.htm?g=a8a12214...c150&f=06/64&p=
It's a political vampire!! And he wants to run for president someday hehe
psyche101
I never used to believe in them - but then I had not taken into account

"There's books about them and movies. Or that commercial for the Ritz crackers. "

So they must exist !! Geez, looks like I have been proven wrong.......Why do we need science an stuff like that when we have a Ritz cracker commercial!! - Video evidence!!!!
analog_warrior
No. 'Cause then anyone with fake fangs would be one.
HannibalLecter
Hypothetically a vampire is a person who has fangs and drink blood basically right? so its possible that any one who wanted to could be a vampire if they have fangs and drinks blood.

TaTa,
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jobot37
as well as has control over animals and can shapeshift and fly/levitate.......
IsisVsHathor
QUOTE(moongirl90 @ Apr 14 2003, 10:36 AM) [snapback]35357[/snapback]

I think vampires are real. I mean they've been around for millions of years. Think about it. There's books about them and movies. Or that commercial for the Ritz crackers. So I think they are real. I always read about them. I would like to know if there are actually some vampires out there. One of my friend thinks i'm really weird for thinking they are real. I may be weird but i really don't care.


If you beleive that Vampires exist, then you are quite right. The first recording of such events happened in the 4th Dynasty while the Pharaoh Sneferu was in rule. He nephew was found with bite marks in his neck, that was not caused by any asp or snake, that bite marks were too far away to be even consided as such. Whats to say that vampires can only survive on blood? with all the dieases around then due to poor health they would have had to adapt somehow. The notion that vampires can not exist during daylight hours is bull, they just cannot function at 100%. I think some of these other people have more reseach to do, before they go knocking down others.
rhylin
QUOTE(IsisVsHathor @ Jan 23 2006, 06:13 AM) [snapback]1032844[/snapback]

If you beleive that Vampires exist, then you are quite right. The first recording of such events happened in the 4th Dynasty while the Pharaoh Sneferu was in rule. He nephew was found with bite marks in his neck, that was not caused by any asp or snake, that bite marks were too far away to be even consided as such. Whats to say that vampires can only survive on blood? with all the dieases around then due to poor health they would have had to adapt somehow. The notion that vampires can not exist during daylight hours is bull, they just cannot function at 100%. I think some of these other people have more reseach to do, before they go knocking down others.

research is one thing. proof is another. If they exist as you say they do, then show some real proof. yes.gif
NoTC
QUOTE(IsisVsHathor @ Jan 23 2006, 05:13 AM) [snapback]1032844[/snapback]

If you beleive that Vampires exist, then you are quite right. The first recording of such events happened in the 4th Dynasty while the Pharaoh Sneferu was in rule. He nephew was found with bite marks in his neck, that was not caused by any asp or snake, that bite marks were too far away to be even consided as such. Whats to say that vampires can only survive on blood? with all the dieases around then due to poor health they would have had to adapt somehow. The notion that vampires can not exist during daylight hours is bull, they just cannot function at 100%. I think some of these other people have more reseach to do, before they go knocking down others.


So if I walk down the street and bite someone, I'm a vampire? Oh man.

Astonishing factual information you believers have!
Ebony
QUOTE(IsisVsHathor)
If you beleive that Vampires exist, then you are quite right. The first recording of such events happened in the 4th Dynasty while the Pharaoh Sneferu was in rule. He nephew was found with bite marks in his neck, that was not caused by any asp or snake, that bite marks were too far away to be even consided as such. Whats to say that vampires can only survive on blood? with all the dieases around then due to poor health they would have had to adapt somehow. The notion that vampires can not exist during daylight hours is bull, they just cannot function at 100%. I think some of these other people have more reseach to do, before they go knocking down others.


You're quite right, because there's never been any record of abnormally large snakes and they knew every single species back in Sneferu's time. Nor has there ever been any record of people being murdered and the crime covered up by making it look as if it was a vampire or other legendary creature people had superstitions about. I hope you can at least recognise sarcasm when you see it...
Look, no one's here to knock anyone else down, it's just that some people have short tempers when it comes to others waltzing into a topic and saying "such and such is real" without any discernable or coherant reason to believe so. The fact is, vampires and many other creatures may or may not exist, we'll never know unless we bag one for real. You must consider that there are two sides of every story and most of us are trying to provide two logical arguments.
Also, if that's the only information you have to add to the debate, I think YOU need to do more research, because that one little snippet isn't going to cut it. You can't expect people to just fold because of something that happened so long ago it can't even be substantiated. Especially when there's no proof that the incident was even recorded correctly, and for that matter, translated correctly. If you're going to go accusing others, try to make sure you're not being hypocritical first.
rhylin
QUOTE(Ebony @ Jan 23 2006, 03:01 PM) [snapback]1033193[/snapback]

You're quite right, because there's never been any record of abnormally large snakes and they knew every single species back in Sneferu's time. Nor has there ever been any record of people being murdered and the crime covered up by making it look as if it was a vampire or other legendary creature people had superstitions about. I hope you can at least recognise sarcasm when you see it...
Look, no one's here to knock anyone else down, it's just that some people have short tempers when it comes to others waltzing into a topic and saying "such and such is real" without any discernable or coherant reason to believe so. The fact is, vampires and many other creatures may or may not exist, we'll never know unless we bag one for real. You must consider that there are two sides of every story and most of us are trying to provide two logical arguments.
Also, if that's the only information you have to add to the debate, I think YOU need to do more research, because that one little snippet isn't going to cut it. You can't expect people to just fold because of something that happened so long ago it can't even be substantiated. Especially when there's no proof that the incident was even recorded correctly, and for that matter, translated correctly. If you're going to go accusing others, try to make sure you're not being hypocritical first.

your awesome dude thumbsup.gif
Ebony
Who, me? Thanks! Not so bad yourself. original.gif
ballagurl
HI i'm unsure if vampires are real or not, i know for sure that i have not seen any in my life.But we never know, maybe were not meant 2 see them, maybe there are in the deepest part of Mexico, there are alot of mysteries in the world and vampires have been one for years.Maybe they just stay as bats and not change into humans as there cover up, then 1 day will never know.They might be smarter than us or maybe not.It's a mystery.
ballagurl
people can try to tell facts 2 people but they denie it as if it were nothing.If you were bitten and you come crying back 2 us well just ignore you.lol.Cause if you don't believe you might be sorry.
ballagurl
Your full of it i bet if you did go up 2 a vampire, it'll kill you for interfering in its business.
Ebony
What the hell was that all about?
jobot37
GAH! This damnable thread keeps coming back! I have no idea what that was about, but I have a theory that there is one person out there who keeps making new accounts and makes a couple posts then abandons them and makes another to convince us there is a large number of people who believe in vampires, something a rational minded human being could not do because of the apalling lack of science and even biological support for such an organism.
cyrus11
i believe vampires are real!!!!! and there is proof!!!!
vampire bats!
mosquitos!
leeches!
ticks!
fleas!
assassin bugs!
vampire finches of madagasgar!
biting flies!... etc.

but as far as human vampires... dude.. you guys need professional help.
get a real hobby. be more social. get a friend. join mysapce, hell i don't know!!
but you won't be any more important or special by convincing yourself that you are a supernatural being who gets energy or life force by drinking another person's blood.
and that im sorry that your parents ignored you or abused you when you were little..which changed your brain development and made you reclusive and quiet in your own little world, making up fantasy scenerios of..yeah...im an outcast cus im different! cus im special. so NO, drinking blood and dressing up like a goth liberacci will not make you desirable or envied by anyone other than people like you..
Unclassified Weapon
Whats the point with going physco on these things. All they are doing is voicing opinions and bringing facts up to study the existance of such enigmatic humanoids. No need to insult everyone for happily and kindly stating their view. Lets get back onto topic original.gif

All animals associated with blood sucking, have existed for millions of years. We have existed a long time but still we havent had tio adapt the way these things have. As far as people are concerned we evolved from apes. But do we stop have we reached the pinnacle of human evolution, who knows? In this day in age humans have no need to suck blood do they?
*EnIgMa*
QUOTE(cyrus11 @ Feb 2 2006, 06:30 AM) [snapback]1045333[/snapback]

i believe vampires are real!!!!! and there is proof!!!!
vampire bats!
mosquitos!
leeches!
ticks!
fleas!
assassin bugs!
vampire finches of madagasgar!
biting flies!... etc.

Good point!

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but as far as human vampires... dude.. you guys need professional help.

Some of them, perhaps... But for believing in vampires, it depends how you think of them. If people think the vampires that appear in their favorite horror are real, then maybe they need a reality check. The fact is, vampires do exist. Vampirism has been around for centuries. It is still practiced in households throughout the world as a matter of fact. There is nothing supernatural about vampires (again, I am using this in the 'literal' meaning, not the movie-type). They drink blood for spiritual purposes. Some do it in ceremonies, some do it in their spare time. There is no need to nag on people for saying they are a vampire, as long as they are actually informed in to what they're claiming to be... Listening to some of you guys is making my ears bleed... Do some research before you jump to uneducated conclusions. Don't claim to be sure of anything, unless you know. Perhaps some of todays 'vampires' are just obsessive movie fanatics, but drinking blood is nothing new to humankind, and that is the point I am trying to make...
This is not intended to offend anyone here. It is only meant to inform people of what (apparently) is being misunderstood...
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so NO, drinking blood and dressing up like a goth liberacci will not make you desirable or envied by anyone other than people like you..

Not everyone who dresses like that is a crazy teenager that had a horrible childhood, or a misguided youth. People like to express themselves however they want. It's not fair to stereotype people into a category, when you don't know every single one of them as an individual...
Bex
If a Vampire Bites me, would they acquire all of my diseases?
*EnIgMa*
QUOTE(Bex @ Feb 2 2006, 12:33 PM) [snapback]1045646[/snapback]

If a Vampire Bites me, would they acquire all of my diseases?

Actually, I believe so, if it penetrates the skin... Just like with HIV/ A.I.D.S, if fluids mix, diseases will be transmitted (on most cases)...
Arsenik
It is true that any of us are sesceptible as the next to blood-borne diseases. This is why we have to check the medical history of anyone who wishes "donate" blood.
Bex
Well at least, I should be safe. My blood is too watery anyway, pratically clear.
rhylin
QUOTE(Unclassified Weapon @ Feb 2 2006, 09:43 AM) [snapback]1045469[/snapback]

Whats the point with going physco on these things. All they are doing is voicing opinions and bringing facts up to study the existance of such enigmatic humanoids.

Who has given facts? From reading this on and off no one here has had real FACT. It is all just opinion. But you cannot expect people not to take your word for it if you have no proof! Maybe some come across as being mean, but we are only stating the obvious. tongue.gif
jobot37
We are not "psycho", we are educators of ignorant teen masses that so easily accept whatever they see in movies or hear from a friend, we ARE the reality check that is so desperately needed.
Ebony
We're not "physco" either.
newbloodmoon
Vampire 1: People who drink blood for supposed medical, psycological or just the Anne Rice coolness factor, or even people who do not have the ability to go out in sunlight for medical reasons.

Vampire 2: Supernatural, shape shifting, mind controlling, fly by night, needing a stake to the heart, head cut off and burned with it's ashes spread from here to BFE.

I personally believe in the Vampire 1 model myself.
jobot37
vampire 1 needs a psychiastrist, vampire 2 does not exist at all
*EnIgMa*
QUOTE(jobot37 @ Feb 2 2006, 10:16 PM) [snapback]1046340[/snapback]

vampire 1 needs a psychiastrist

Why? Cause they're different from you? huh.gif That's really arrogant...
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vampire 2 does not exist at all

I agree... wink2.gif
jobot37
not because they are different from me, because they are depraving themselves of a healthy mental existence
Katkandoo_kw
its possible that they exist, but in an earlier post made by me, I posted a few years back! That I believe they are dying dibetic (Sp?) read Sweetblood, thats where I got the idea from its about a vamp
Agent. Mulder
for the Space Moose. ok, vampires have been recorded since the babylonians and egyptians were around. there in cultures everywhere, like china. not just in transylvania. also there have not only been stories but recordings, eye witnesses, reports and even comapliants that were filed to police about what they believed were vampires that these people saw or were attacked by.
jobot37
QUOTE(Agent. Mulder @ Feb 8 2006, 02:35 PM) [snapback]1054011[/snapback]

for the Space Moose. ok, vampires have been recorded since the babylonians and egyptians were around. there in cultures everywhere, like china. not just in transylvania. also there have not only been stories but recordings, eye witnesses, reports and even comapliants that were filed to police about what they believed were vampires that these people saw or were attacked by.


Please provide proof, those recordings of ancient times, eye witness reports, police complaints, and find me one vampire who can prove beyond a doubt that they exist and are not just some idiotic attention starved teenager. If any such thing as a vampire ever existed (which it did not) it is a monster, not a person.
magickalforces
THEY FRICKIN EXIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PERSONAL EXPERIENCE HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! angry.gif
Pax Unum
Tales of the dead craving blood are ancient in nearly every culture around the world.

Vampire-like spirits called the Lilu are mentioned in early Babylonian demonology, and the bloodsucking Akhkharu even earlier in the Sumerian mythology. These female demons were said to roam during the hours of darkness, hunting and killing newborn babies and pregnant women. One of these demons, named Lilitu, was later adapted into Jewish demonology as Lilith. Lilitu/Lilith is sometimes called the mother of all vampires. For further information, see the article on Lilith.

The Ancient Egyptian goddess Sekhmet in one myth became full of blood lust after slaughtering humans and was only sated after drinking alcohol colored as blood.

In Homer's Odyssey, the shades that Odysseus meets on his journey to the underworld are lured to the blood of freshly sacrificed rams, a fact that Odysseus uses to his advantage to summon the shade of Tiresias. Roman tales describe the strix, a nocturnal bird that fed on human flesh and blood. The Roman strix is the source of the Romanian vampire, the Strigoi and the Albanian Shtriga, which also show Slavic influence.

In early Slavic folklore, a vampire drank blood, was afraid of (but could not be killed by) silver and could be destroyed by cutting off its head and putting it between the corpse's legs or by putting a wooden stake into its heart.

Medieval historians and chroniclers Walter Map and William of Newburgh recorded the earliest English stories of vampires in the 12th century.

Many vampire legends also bear similarities to legends regarding succubi or incubi.

Vampires are mythical or folkloric creatures... yes.gif

Vampire
punkmonkey123
QUOTE(moongirl90 @ Apr 13 2003, 11:36 PM) [snapback]35357[/snapback]

I think vampires are real. I mean they've been around for millions of years. Think about it. There's books about them and movies. Or that commercial for the Ritz crackers. So I think they are real. I always read about them. I would like to know if there are actually some vampires out there. One of my friend thinks i'm really weird for thinking they are real. I may be weird but i really don't care.


you really think they were around before us? and to think people will belive anything they see read or hear...
arkland
vampires are plausible but most defiantly NOT REAL tongue.gif
Jamesinho
Vampires do not exist. If Vampires exist, then where r they? Where do they live? How come no one has bean bitten or seen vampires.

NO ASWEARS. Becuase its "Made Up Story" huh.gif

There is no such thing as Vampires in our world. mellow.gif
MarineBiology
Technically there are vampires, just not as we see them in our lore.
jobot37
QUOTE(magickalforces @ Feb 17 2006, 05:42 PM) [snapback]1066558[/snapback]

THEY FRICKIN EXIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PERSONAL EXPERIENCE HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! angry.gif


#1 Please provide proof that they exist.

#2 Posts like this are one of the multifarious reasons that I have made my claim that all "vampires" are attention starved teenagers, too many exclamation points, all caps, no proof or attempt to even relate a story that might be able to substantiate a vampire rumor. I think it is obvious you are a teenager, most likely either an "anime kid" or a goth (sorry for any offenses taken by the general public") and are just angry that we are in the process of disproving the existence of vampires to hundreds of people, because possibly you deem yourself a vampire and have for some time to get the attention you feel you deserve and to have people marvel at your "dark and tortured inner self" but in reality that does not exist and you just need a few really good, close friends.
The Doctor
Is it just me or are people starting to think of vampires a some kind os new species? Films like Blade and Underworld imagine them as having evolved liked humans have and try to make them biologically plausible but originally vampires are a sort of demon or evil spirit e.g crucifixes causing harm no reflection etc.The only vampires real are bats thumbsup.gif
magik boi
i think they are real
but differnt i meen i highly doubt they are dead who are alergic to garilc can tunr into bats and dont age
i think they might be zombies killkin peope or zombies drinkin blood (maybe for power)
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