There is a book that you guys should look into, and do a bit of studying on that charactours in it, its called "Lord Of The Dead", by Tom Holland, its a book about Lord byron, and how he becomes a vampyre, and all the people and events in the book are real, and the disapearences are too...its kinda creepy, any way check it out, you wont be dissapointed i primise!

Byron wasn't a vampire, he just thought he was. He was a good author and a very influential personality, but totally not a vampire. He wore a cool turban too...

Nicely said.

We are the food so what did they eat?? Dinosaur blood? Maybe we have found out why Dinos are extinct!!!! LOL



He was also quite the poet, which made him a Hell ladies man too.

I think you have it!!

I really don't care wat other people say. I beleive that they do excist wether u guys like it or not.

This is what I hate about internet-free holidays, you miss out on witnessing stupidity as it happens...

They frickin exist? Personal experience?

Like what personal experience... Another teenager stuck in the cliche of thinking they actually are a vampire or you were actually accosted by a real vampire and retained undeniable proof of their existence? We're only too happy to accept proof, but we all know the chances of you providing it are non-existant (a little like vampires). I'd say the chances of you even posting in this thread again are slim enough. We've seen your type before, those who just waltz in and make an unfounded statement of the ridiculous then leave, never to be seen in the thread again. Excellent for the intelligent to have a laugh and nothing more. I have to say, I'd take your statement a little more seriously if you'd said anything of any substance. Why don't you try again?



This one got me too. Simply because zombies are so much more plausible than vampires? Seems like both concepts are medically improbable (I say improbable for benefit of the doubt). Feel free to elaborate, just in case I didn't grasp the concept properly.

Last one...Huntress, other people don't really care what you believe either. Believe whatever makes you happy, it matters not. There is no 'like it or not'. There is only a at another person making a statement with absolutely no evidence whatsoever. It's so passe, we're over it.

Don't feel too bad people, I just finished mod duty at another (absolutely insane) board after a week long absence and I'm in a dangerous mood. Dangerous mood=extremely low tolerance for whimsical statements. Have a completely charming day anyway.

You mean Vlad Dracul? He would impale people and sit on his "impaling" hill and dip his food in the blood and all that good stuff. Then there was Elizabeth Bathory AKA The Blood Countess, who would kill her servant girls and drink their blood "for their youth" and take baths in it. She was obsessed with staying young and beautiful.

And as for the one comment about people having a medical disorder where they craved blood, there IS one but I can't think of the term at the moment. Anemics were sometimes given blood back then cause the doctors thought it helped the illness.

There ARE more legends about vampires in other places besided romania. They have them in China, Germany, Africa, Mexico. . .Vampire myths were around BEFORE Dracula. I think vampires are like werewolves, they are sort of a subconcious fear of unknown things. . .pretty much every culture has some kind of creature that could be called a "vampire". . . I'm not sure about them being REAL, but apparently they scare the crap out of us, or there wouldn't be so many myths and legends surrounding them.

Vampires are; first of all, non-existant, second of all, they began as monster myths. No real person could ever have been a vampire to begin with, a vampire is a crazed maniac of a monster which slaughters people and eats them. Most definitely NOT a suave romanian count, or for that matter, an angsty American teenager. No person can shapeshift, no person can survive only on blood. Those "vampires" who did exist, specifically Vlad Tepes, the one everybody claims as the original vampire, was nothing more than a disgusting sadist with too much time on his hands and a penchant for doling out punishments that are disproportionate to the crime committed, if any at all. No one on this forum is a vampire. No one on this planet is a vampire. Vampires are myths, they of course hold strong cultural value, but have never existed previously, do not exist now, and will never exist in the future.

You know jobot37, I love the way you put things.

Then how do explain the two holes in the necks of several prostitutes, their pale bodies completely drained of blood..and not a drop anywhere is sight? How do you explain that Mr. SoSureOfHimself?! How do explain the large bats seen in the same area only hours before the bodies were found? How do you explain....wait, ......I'm sorry...I was confusing reality with a movie I saw once....nevermind.

Why is it that you believe? Enlighten us lowly uneducated non-believers, do you also have personal "Frickin" experience?
I'd love to hear the tale

Vampiers as most people think of them do not exist. Just think about it dead peoples who drink living peoples blood, come on thats only stupid ! But living people who drinks other living peoples blood that hears realy belivebal. So the only type of vampires that exist are the humans that drink theire own blood and/ore cuts of other peoples necks and drinks whats come out !..., ohhh and the vampirebat too off course !

There seems to be no point to this, but I will make another attempt to explain this to you. All this pointless arguing is because the people on this forum define vampires differently:

The hollywood vampire: The undead being who... Sorry, the non-existant undead being who supposedly drinks blood with his/her two fangs from the victim's neck, turns into a bat, burns to ashes in sunlight. This being is supposed to only live on blood and only blood. He also turns his victims into vampires.

The hollywood vampire with other qualities: To some people the regular hollywood vampire is not enough, so they feel they need to enrich the myth. For example they say that vampires also eat the corpses etc.

The real, modern vampire: A living, breathing human being who needs to either drink blood or use their psychic abilities to get energy. Most real vampires use both methods. They do not only live on blood, they eat normal food just like everyone else. Just from time to time they need (also have an urge) to drink blood or drain energy mentally. They will not die if they wont get blood. They will just feel very very tired, weak and sick. They get sunburned very easily and prefer to be active during the night. Their eyes also have low tolerance for sunlight. They cannot and do not claim to turn into bats or anything else and most of them look like normal people. They do not have fangs, but some of them let a dentist fix that problem just incase one day they have an urge, a donor but no razor or syringe available... They do not have victims, they have donors who willingly give up some of their energy or blood to the vampire. Some of these people call themselves vampyres to distinguish themselves from the myths and legends.

The first two types of vampires do not exist (if anyone feels I'm wrong on this then you better have some proof to back it up next time), there are plenty who belong to the third group though... It is up to you to believe them to be sane or insane, but they do exist.

Wow. I cannot believe this thread is still open. Ladies and Gentlemen, the believers of vampires, don't get angry that we don't believe. As Ebony put it, you cannot expect someone to bend because you say they exist. That is not how it works. We need proof. How many times do people have to ask for proof of vampires before we get it?? We never will, you know why? Because vampires are fictional. They are a made up criptid to scare people. Because people like to be scared. We enjoy it. That's why the vampire movies like Blade, and Interview with the Vampire are so popular. It's a great bedtime story. That is all.
Hollywood has romanticized vampires for that reason.
Yes vampire stories, sightings, ect has been in our history for many years. Not because it is real, because it is a story.
There is no medical way people can survive on blood. You can say things like, 'what about so and so that was drained of all blood and the body was pale' all you want. Provide evidence that this actually happened. It could very well, just be another story made up by some person to scare children, and entertain adults.
Arsenik if you are what you claim you are then why aren't you providing proof. If you lived where I live you would probably be in some mental institution or high on medical drugs. I am not saying this to be mean, but come on people! Where's the proof?

science doesn't prove everything


but i believe

Thank you, I love the way I put things too.

Desperation to believe in something, anything. Helps fuel the belief in vampires by teenagers everywhere.

And ignorance and complete disregard for the laws of physics and nature which form the substance of reality's existence....not that it's really important or anything....

This whole attempt to prove of disprove the existence of vampire by means of wikipedia definitions and personal opinions is a farce. You might as well go to a church and tell the priest that there is no such thing as God. As a matter of fact, this argument of vampire existence has been running quite parallel to the argument against Christianity. Both sides have equally arguable points, and both sides have raked up an equal amount of points. Let us put away our belief hammers and give way to the fact that as long as there is blood in our veins there will be those who will drink it.

Agreed. No proof exists, ever has existed or ever will exist. The only 'true vampires' are people with mental disorders or extremely low self esteem, or people who have trouble dealing with authority figures. Vampire 'proof' is a novel by either Bram Stoker or Anne Rice



So you compare angsty teens to people grownups who have devoted their whole life to helping others??????? Wether you belive in God or not is irrelevant. Priests help the needy, sick and give hope to those who need it. They do not force their sad little fantasies on others to increase their own self-esteem, if you want to go to Church, you go, nobody has a gun in your back, or a fang at ones neck for that matter.

You are out of line making this comparision. Get some respect.



????? Very Interesting, did you pull these facts out of your head, or did you get them from a weekend Dungeons and Dragons game with your buddies?
God and Jesus once again, wether you believe or not have been around for 2000 years we know of Bram Stoker and Anne Rice (even Vlad Tepes) were way after that. Parallell??? You idea of a parralelled argument is questionable.
Points ???? Where do you get this 'point count' from???
Equally arguable??????????????????? How did you come to this conclusion. One has the support of billions of world wide followers, the other is modern literature (fiction in fact, look the word up, it's what Vampires are) and acted upon by Teens lacking in self esteem??????

What crap. Bram Stoker immortalised some sicko, Anne Rice wrote some interesting novels, and you compare this to ancient texts, complete organisations etc. etc???
You compare the history of the Roman Church with a Novel by Anne Rice???? geez, get back to school.



There may be some sickos who think they need to drink blood. They should be locked up. How about you put away your fantasy hammer?

Pfffftt grow up. Go outside, go fishing or camping, try the beach. Get away from screens for a bit and get some fresh air and a bit of Sun. You need it.

Sheesh, at least the Mermaid sounded like a honey

Arsenik has a strong point...It does not matter if you believe in the movie type vampire or not..The truth is there are people out there who drink blood...They don't live forever..they have no super power's so to say..But they still drink blood and they need it as much as Ann Rice's vampire's needed it too live.....

Sleeping in a bed at night, dreaming without fear, Creeping through the town in fright, always drawing near.

From the tombs, down by the lake, they come to homes, the flesh to take, Always hunting, without tire, always watch for Vampyre.

Man people don't post on here like they use too.....

someone drinking blood and living in some fantasy is not a vampire...

But man cannot live by blood alone. If anyone tried this, they'd become malnourished, weak, brittle boned, and die from medical conditions resulting therefrom or bloodborne diseases. It is true however that there are people who drink blood, and they don't live forever, and they have no super powers of ANY sort. They are just pathetic little people who live in their own little fantasy world and are afraid to face the rigors of real life.

Having a compulsion to drink blood does not make one a vampire. It makes them mentally unstable and in need of help. Thats a fact.

Ok 742 evergreen Terrace...Springfield USA...knock yourself bandy

this...thread is still...going?

I am shocked and disgusted as well, but I can't keep away from it, if the vamp kids would stop trying to defend fantasy, then it would go away and we would have room for one more worthwhile thread in here.

agreed, vampires arent real, and this thread shouldnt be either...

I have never attempted to prove fantasy. Notice I have never claimed to be supernatural in any way, shape, or form? I have merely defended myself when confronted by an argument. To those who have not been following along and to those have made such comments I would like to say that you are completely correct in saying that vamps out there are disillusioned and angsty teens. However, those disillusioned teens are the ones claiming to be immortal and have fake fangs implanted purely with intent of filling the cliche.
And to member psyche101, by responding to my post you had in part confirmed what I said. I will not go through the process of confronting every point that you tried make however lengthy each may be.

While on the subject of "points", what word would you prefer I use? Tally? Mark or Credit? I'm sure a good dictionary can inform you of the definition of the word "point" which I can guarantee will have no mention of the word's origin being from game lingo.

I, in no way confirmed anything you said at any point. I pointed out just how far from reality your ridiculous claims are. Each post was not 'lengthy' each post contained a structured thought process.

I stand by my statement, you are out of line comparing a mental condition with people who devote their life to others. That is sick man. You might need the Slavos yourself one day. Nobody knows what is around the corner.



Hrrmmzz, strange argument you have made there?? my quote was



I don't need a dictionary, and I don't give a rodents rectum how you define 'points', I want to know who it is keeping count??? And where did you get this 'valuable' information from? You attention to detail is not dissimilar to your reagard for factual knowledge, or reality.

What utter garbage.

If one is unlucky enough to have been diagnosed with one of these diseases, there are modern methods that allow the extraction of the needed componenents and methods to administer them in a sanitary, healty, and sane manner without resorting to the need for man made fangs or biting people. Lets face it, biting people is just not very sociable is it. We live in a society. To attack another human in this brutal manner because one cannot determine story from fact is twisted. Against the law too.

Any "Vamps" out there offereing to fly around ang 'turn' people, why do you need an address??? Don't your super powers let you "see into the mind.???" *Ohhhhahhhh Plays scary music*

Cmon, show up tonight. I'll be home, tell ya what, if you do turn me, I'll document proof and present it to the 'non-believers' in the forum.
I love the movies and novels too, but this believeing bit is just going a bit far.

You know guy's it's easy to have these's people are insane, or that they are just playing some sort of role playing game...But the fact's still remain no matter what the reason...No matter how much other's find this a gross and sick pratice...Many people on this earth drink blood....I think the point to be made here is not if they are nut's for doing it..But that these's are people are human they will not live forever, they have no super power's..But they still have a need for blood that drive's them.....

Need and desire are very different things.

the Masai drink the blood of their cattle... are they vampires?

Nice of you to include a link Pax Unum

I have eaten black pudding - I'm no Vampire

Ebony, I have to say - Eloquently put



To desire the blood of another human because of the influence of anothers imagination is sick and twisted. We should be locking these people away instead of offering some form of pseudo-councilling as there is no reason for it, and, people who advocate it in any way should be made to talk to the families of victims of some 'modern Vampires'. (Like the German Lady a couple months ago)

Is that like Blood pudding?... collect the fresh blood, immediately add salt and stir to prevent coagulation.... yuck!!

Hehe, yep, that's the one Pig By Product.
Yum Yum. But I only eat it if no pigs were punctured in the neck. Humane killing and all that.

I have eaten Goat as well, but I am no Chupacubra

Think that is disgusting, look up the recepie for Haggis!!

I meant no offence... my diet is INCREDIBLY mundane by comparison...

Hehe, no offense taken, I must have worded myself badly

I does sound pretty horrible in the recepie doesn't it

I didn't mean it was disgusting... though it's pretty high on my yuck-o-meter...

....Haggis is sooo good.

hehe, sounds awful but 'ey

And these kids wanna be tough and drink blood - if ya wanna be real tough, try celtic food !!

I like the way this fell off topic. However, in a round-about way it does prove a point recently discussed...consuming blood does not make you a vampire. A Celt possibly, but not a vampire. Someone willing to try new and different types of cuisine, but still not a vampire.

There, another point for the no vampires theory.

Back off topic...never tried any of those things. They sound like they wouldn't be any good, but people who have tried them tell me it's not so. Still, although I'm not particularly squeamish I don't think I will have a taste.

mmm i love haggis...im a scot.

from vampires to haggis, what a wonderful transition!

I vote haggis...

Haggis, Sheeps Lung, Sheeps Stomach, lots of blood gore and a meal at the end of it.
No wonder it took over, it is much more enticing, scary, entertaining and realistic than vampires.

I think that vampires are real.
The anne rice book intervew with a vampire was said to be a real story of a boy who met one, but i don't blieve all of the theories about them because most of that stuff is just fiction.