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The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(jinty @ Mar 9 2006, 05:16 AM) [snapback]1096270[/snapback]

I think that vampires are real.
The anne rice book intervew with a vampire was said to be a real story of a boy who met one, but i don't blieve all of the theories about them because most of that stuff is just fiction.

No it isn't. Anne Rice says during interview that she has never believed in real vampires.
2 types of vampires.
-Mentally ill.
-Lonely and disillusioned teenager.
psyche101
QUOTE
I think that vampires are real.
The anne rice book intervew with a vampire was said to be a real story of a boy who met one, but i don't blieve all of the theories about them because most of that stuff is just fiction.


Just where do these 'Pearls of Wisdom' come from??????

So you reckon they exist because "The anne rice book intervew with a vampire was said to be a real story of a boy who met one"
Didn't think to try even Google to see if this story has any creedence to it whatsoever?

And you can believe in a Vampire but not everything that the movies say, just some of the stuff?
Can you see how this sounds now it is read back?

For Pete's sake - THINK. That should solve the mystery for you.
Pax Unum
QUOTE(ericraven2003 @ Mar 9 2006, 01:30 PM) [snapback]1096873[/snapback]

No it isn't. Anne Rice says during interview that she has never believed in real vampires.
2 types of vampires.
-Mentally ill.
-Lonely and disillusioned teenager.


thumbsup.gif yep!!!
Malfeas
Don't forget porphyria.
Pax Unum
QUOTE(Malfeas @ Mar 9 2006, 09:28 PM) [snapback]1097899[/snapback]

Don't forget porphyria.


Indeed, Porphyria has been suggested as an explanation for the origin of vampire and werewolf legends, based upon a number of superficial similarities between the condition and the folklore. These ideas may have developed from a misunderstanding of the nature of porphyria and concentrate more on the traits from modern vampire and werewolf fiction than on the original folkloric beliefs. A theory that the blood drinking attributed to vampires would alleviate the symptoms of porphyria does not stand up to scientific scrutiny
psyche101
QUOTE(Malfeas @ Mar 10 2006, 01:28 PM) [snapback]1097899[/snapback]

Don't forget porphyria.


Ahhh, you mean a heterogeneous group of either inherited or acquired disorders of haem biosynthesis. In these diseases, specific abnormalities of enzymes in the biosynthetic pathway cause generalised clinical abnormalities. They are classified, as shown below, into acute and non-acute porphyria.
ACUTE
PORPHYRIA ACUTE INTERMITTENT PORPHYRIA
(Swedish Porphyria)
VARIEGATE PORPHYRIA
(South African Genetic Porphyria)
HEREDITARY COPROPORPHYRIA
(Coproporphyria)
PLUMBOPORPHYRIA
(ALA Dehydratase deficiency)

NON-ACUTE
PORPHYRIA PORPHYRIA CUTANEA TARDA
(Cutaneous Hepatic Porphyria:
Symptomatic Porphyria)
ERYTHROPOIETIC PROTOPORPHYRIA
(Erythrohepatic Porphyria)
CONGENITAL PORPHYRIA
(Gunther's disease:
Erythropoietic Porphyria)



Ahhhh porphyria. The catchphrase of the forum Vampire.
Yep, we have enough angsty teens to keep us informed of the many straws they clutch at in an attempt to personify their fantasies grin2.gif
Still no need to bite people on the neck no.gif
Malfeas
LOL, I love this place. grin2.gif
psyche101
QUOTE(Malfeas @ Mar 10 2006, 02:30 PM) [snapback]1098018[/snapback]

LOL, I love this place. grin2.gif



Hehe, glad you like it, Welcome to UM Malfeas, may your stay be long, entertaining and informative thumbsup.gif
Malfeas
Thanks psyche, I'ts already paid for the two minutes it took to sign up. thumbsup.gif
jobot37
It is an amazing place, full of hilarity, intelligence (sometimes), wisdom, and rage

hang around with us friend you won't go wrong, and are you at all interested in hunting vampires?


darn angsty teens and their bloody disease excuses....
Malfeas
I'll hunt anyhting if the cause is just, namely anyone who's knowledge about vampires comes from a White Wolf RPG and Tom Cruise. So, sign me up I guess, they seem to be rampant these days.

Ego congruo
Kitchinou
vampires are create from the fear of humans have on bats (specially blood sucking ones) they are not birds and fly, out the night and we can't see them. I really don't think vampires are real (but I do stupidly hope they are when I read Anne Rice (classical))

But they is other form of vampire such as the ukrainian belief

"It is believed that when a person takes his or her own life, then is buried on sacred ground, that person will eventually become a vampire. As they walk the streets, they prey on their family members."

a such case already happened in in Wilno, Ontario, Canada (source: Creepy Canada)

but I still don't beleive it
Dark Bloody Wind Goddess Haruka
my friend said they were trying to find someone kinda vampire bible is that true
NoTC
I can't believe this topic is still kicking. I thought this horse was beat to death about 39 pages ago
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(Knightmeir @ Mar 10 2006, 12:32 PM) [snapback]1098734[/snapback]

I can't believe this topic is still kicking. I thought this horse was beat to death about 39 pages ago

It is a vampire horse. Takes along time to die.lol Someone get out the stake. So we will all be out of our misery. devil.gif
Adam_666
actually vampires are real because people on the Jerry Springer Show came and told stories that they cut slits into their friends and drink their blood.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(Adam_666 @ Mar 10 2006, 01:02 PM) [snapback]1098777[/snapback]

actually vampires are real because people on the Jerry Springer Show came and told stories that they cut slits into their friends and drink their blood.

Jerry Springer. lol
jinty
QUOTE(psyche101 @ Mar 10 2006, 02:39 AM) [snapback]1097794[/snapback]

Just where do these 'Pearls of Wisdom' come from??????

So you reckon they exist because "The anne rice book intervew with a vampire was said to be a real story of a boy who met one"
Didn't think to try even Google to see if this story has any creedence to it whatsoever?

And you can believe in a Vampire but not everything that the movies say, just some of the stuff?
Can you see how this sounds now it is read back?

For Pete's sake - THINK. That should solve the mystery for you.



ah, wot o actual ment woz dat i do blieve in vamps, but that is jst wot i heard, i blieved in them before heard that, no need to be a smart ass!!!
Ebony
Jerry Springer?!! Even I won't touch that one!

There may be no need to be a smart ass, but there is definitely a need to be smart. Fortunately, psyche101 possesses the quality. To show some conceit, so do I, which may explain why I agree with him.
JeremyGTS
ok if you really need to ask if vampires are real or not you need to be hit in the head with a tack hammer... now there is a condition i heard of called "Porphyria" The cutaneous porphyrias affect the skin. People with cutaneous porphyria develop blisters, itching, and swelling of their skin when it is exposed to sunlight. http://digestive.niddk.nih.gov/ddiseases/pubs/porphyria/

so there u have one half of it... im sure with a little research u can find the blood thing so ill say this now NO VAMPIRES ARE NOT REAL!!! sorry theres no underworld no "la statt" just fiction NA NA NA NA NA!!! grin2.gif
NoTC
QUOTE(jinty @ Mar 10 2006, 01:21 PM) [snapback]1098794[/snapback]

ah, wot o actual ment woz dat i do blieve in vamps, but that is jst wot i heard, i blieved in them before heard that, no need to be a smart ass!!!


In all seriousness, would you mind clarifying this statement? I can't read it.
JeremyGTS
QUOTE(Adam_666 @ Mar 10 2006, 07:02 PM) [snapback]1098777[/snapback]

actually vampires are real because people on the Jerry Springer Show came and told stories that they cut slits into their friends and drink their blood.


yeah...ill touch this... my exgirlfriend was into the whole im a vampire fad and so were her friends and they drank blood and it made them sick... even drank blood from me and i cant believe i let her do it atleast the scar is gone and i wont have to look at it anymore.... people dont need to drink others blood we make our own... there are no human parasites well they are but we dont need to discuss them here.... i cant believe this thread lasted 40 something pages.... and no i didnt read them all i dont need to when it comes to FICTION like this...
Pax Unum
QUOTE(Adam_666 @ Mar 10 2006, 01:02 PM) [snapback]1098777[/snapback]

actually vampires are real because people on the Jerry Springer Show came and told stories that they cut slits into their friends and drink their blood.


Jerry Springer... ohmy.gif LOL
Malfeas
QUOTE(JeremyGTS @ Mar 10 2006, 03:04 PM) [snapback]1098837[/snapback]

yeah...ill touch this... my exgirlfriend was into the whole im a vampire fad and so were her friends and they drank blood and it made them sick... even drank blood from me and i cant believe i let her do it atleast the scar is gone and i wont have to look at it anymore.... people dont need to drink others blood we make our own... there are no human parasites well they are but we dont need to discuss them here.... i cant believe this thread lasted 40 something pages.... and no i didnt read them all i dont need to when it comes to FICTION like this...


First of all, holy crap you are a dedicated boyfriend! blink.gif

Secondly, nobody can resist voicing their polite disdain for this tired cliche. I mean come on, this isn't a myth anymore: its pop culture up there with MJ buying the elephant man's bones or
Manson removing one of his ribs... It's almost our civic duty to comment.
rhylin
QUOTE(jinty @ Mar 10 2006, 02:21 PM) [snapback]1098794[/snapback]

ah, wot o actual ment woz dat i do blieve in vamps, but that is jst wot i heard, i blieved in them before heard that, no need to be a smart ass!!!

Dude, use Spellcheck You sound like a moron
Ebony
Sound?
RamboIII
i have a book on killing vampires, you know, just in case.

im not lying, but i doubt that i will ever need it
OMGMatrix
QUOTE(JeremyGTS @ Mar 10 2006, 02:01 PM) [snapback]1098832[/snapback]

there is a condition i heard of called "Porphyria" The cutaneous porphyrias affect the skin. People with cutaneous porphyria develop blisters, itching, and swelling of their skin when it is exposed to sunlight. http://digestive.niddk.nih.gov/ddiseases/pubs/porphyria/

Actually, This is a legitimate disease that can cause people to need to intake human blood, I know as I did a school report on it. Sorry if that's been stated before.

As far as Fantasy Vampires, though, no such thing. Though as you can tell by my sig, I do love them...
jobot37
QUOTE(RamboIII @ Mar 10 2006, 07:31 PM) [snapback]1099476[/snapback]

i have a book on killing vampires, you know, just in case.

im not lying, but i doubt that i will ever need it


I also have a book about killing zombies, and robots, and keep a sharpenned stake near my bed in case some goth kid gets into my room at night. Because you never know!

(and i do actually have all those tings, plus i sleep near a dagger, but its mostly decorative disgust.gif)
Lord_Kazius
i sleep with candy under my pillow:
1- sometimes i get a bit hungry at night.
2- goth vampires kids can be bribed easily with it.
3- it smells pretty.
jobot37
....I keep a bag of skittles on my night stand....

vampires HATE skittles, they hate them and their sweet magical rainbow taste
Sanjuro
QUOTE(moongirl90 @ Apr 13 2003, 11:36 PM) [snapback]35357[/snapback]

I think vampires are real. I mean they've been around for millions of years. Think about it. There's books about them and movies. Or that commercial for the Ritz crackers. So I think they are real. I always read about them. I would like to know if there are actually some vampires out there. One of my friend thinks i'm really weird for thinking they are real. I may be weird but i really don't care.

They dont exist..
Ebony
^ Well, now that we've cleared that up then...

hurricaneslim
QUOTE(Ebony @ Mar 12 2006, 12:12 AM) [snapback]1100734[/snapback]

^ Well, now that we've cleared that up then...


there's a girl that was in New Orleans a few years ago that claimed to be a vampire. She described one of the yellow fever epidemics in extreme detail, as well as some other things. Could be a history buff though. I'll get some details for you in the next few days.

sounds like a crock o' sh** to me though
Ebony
Yes, find the story. Sounds interesting. Must warn you though, myself and a few others are going to pick it apart and show how she wasn't a vampire at all, just somewhat delusional and perhaps with a medical condition.

To eliminate confusion, my above post was because I don't discriminate between the skeptics and the believers when it comes to not backing up your theories, I share the same disdain for all. Especially so late in an argument. It's just an example of my humour, which is twisted with sarcasm. For the record, I don't believe either.
Malfeas
QUOTE(hurricaneslim @ Mar 12 2006, 12:26 AM) [snapback]1100749[/snapback]

there's a girl that was in New Orleans a few years ago that claimed to be a vampire. She described one of the yellow fever epidemics in extreme detail, as well as some other things. Could be a history buff though. I'll get some details for you in the next few days.

sounds like a crock o' sh** to me though


yeah... this girl is playing a game that has been played before. This man was the master. Check this out:

http://www.alchemylab.com/count_saint_germain.htm

hurricaneslim
QUOTE(Ebony @ Mar 12 2006, 12:41 AM) [snapback]1100769[/snapback]

Yes, find the story. Sounds interesting. Must warn you though, myself and a few others are going to pick it apart and show how she wasn't a vampire at all, just somewhat delusional and perhaps with a medical condition.

To eliminate confusion, my above post was because I don't discriminate between the skeptics and the believers when it comes to not backing up your theories, I share the same disdain for all. Especially so late in an argument. It's just an example of my humour, which is twisted with sarcasm. For the record, I don't believe either.


I don't mind it being picked apart. I don't believe the majority of what I hear. Just found it interesting.
hurricaneslim
QUOTE(hurricaneslim @ Mar 12 2006, 01:16 AM) [snapback]1100806[/snapback]

I don't mind it being picked apart. I don't believe the majority of what I hear. Just found it interesting.


i appreciate the link. been looking for info on st germaine for a long time now
Slim
jobot37
QUOTE(Ebony @ Mar 11 2006, 09:41 PM) [snapback]1100769[/snapback]

Yes, find the story. Sounds interesting. Must warn you though, myself and a few others are going to pick it apart and show how she wasn't a vampire at all, just somewhat delusional and perhaps with a medical condition.


I volunteer grin2.gif
hurricaneslim
I agree, probably just delusional
psyche101
QUOTE(jinty @ Mar 11 2006, 05:21 AM) [snapback]1098794[/snapback]

ah, wot o actual ment woz dat i do blieve in vamps, but that is jst wot i heard, i blieved in them before heard that, no need to be a smart ass!!!


Try to believe in something realistic - even better, take up a sport.

Why not??? You could use a little smartening up yourself - start by purchasing a dictionary. Take that cryptic rubbish to an IRC room please.
psyche101
QUOTE(Adam_666 @ Mar 11 2006, 05:02 AM) [snapback]1098777[/snapback]

actually vampires are real because people on the Jerry Springer Show came and told stories that they cut slits into their friends and drink their blood.


Jerry Springer and Vampires just seem to belong in the same sentance don't they.
jobot37
QUOTE(jinty @ Mar 10 2006, 11:21 AM) [snapback]1098794[/snapback]

ah, wot o actual ment woz dat i do blieve in vamps, but that is jst wot i heard, i blieved in them before heard that, no need to be a smart ass!!!


Que? Habla Ingles por favor, gracias.
psyche101
^^ grin2.gif laugh.gif rofl.gif w00t.gif [attachmentid=23983]
Ebony
I knew you'd volunteer. In fact, I was counting on it. How about you psyche101?

Post the story when you can.

And thanks for the link Malfeas.
hurricaneslim
QUOTE(Ebony @ Mar 13 2006, 01:20 AM) [snapback]1101949[/snapback]

I knew you'd volunteer. In fact, I was counting on it. How about you psyche101?

Post the story when you can.

And thanks for the link Malfeas.


I'll have if for you in a couple days, gotta get to the book I pulled it from. Don't think there's a website
ADHD Inattentive
QUOTE(JeremyGTS @ Mar 10 2006, 12:01 PM) [snapback]1098832[/snapback]

ok if you really need to ask if vampires are real or not you need to be hit in the head with a tack hammer... now there is a condition i heard of called "Porphyria" The cutaneous porphyrias affect the skin. People with cutaneous porphyria develop blisters, itching, and swelling of their skin when it is exposed to sunlight. http://digestive.niddk.nih.gov/ddiseases/pubs/porphyria/

so there u have one half of it... im sure with a little research u can find the blood thing so ill say this now NO VAMPIRES ARE NOT REAL!!! sorry theres no underworld no "la statt" just fiction NA NA NA NA NA!!! grin2.gif



Lol, watching to many movies?

Vampirism is a belief, similar (not the same) to one who follows Wicca. Some sects may practice blood rituals but the whole idea is to acquire energy or strength of some sort. These individual call themselves vampires like a person who follows Wicca refers to himself or herself as a wiccan.

So, to say that there is no such thing as a vampire is like saying there is no such thing as Buddhist monk.

~ADHD~
Ebony
Damn. And I believed in Buddhist monks too...

psyche101
QUOTE(ADHD Inattentive @ Mar 13 2006, 08:09 PM) [snapback]1102066[/snapback]

Lol, watching to many movies?

Vampirism is a belief, similar (not the same) to one who follows Wicca. Some sects may practice blood rituals but the whole idea is to acquire energy or strength of some sort. These individual call themselves vampires like a person who follows Wicca refers to himself or herself as a wiccan.

So, to say that there is no such thing as a vampire is like saying there is no such thing as Buddhist monk.

~ADHD~


Yep, watching too many movies. And taking your novels too seriously.

Very rude of you to compare a fantasy creature/movement to a long standing traditional discipline. You are out of line buddy. Get some manners.

It is not a recognised belief. It is just a pretty sad bunch of people wishing that fantasy was a reality and has it's foundings based on stories by modern authors. It has no grounding, tradition disipline or guidlines that a religion operates by. It is made up. Kinda like starting to worship The Wiggles and building up a pseudo religion and claiming that Captain Feathersword will grant you additional energy or strength if you cut the head of a parrott and drink it's blood.

Buddhism (more correctly Pali Buddhadhamma or Sanskrit Buddhadharma) is a religion and philosophy based on the teachings of the Buddha, Siddhārtha Gautama who was, until recently, said to have lived in northern India between 563 and 483 BCE. New scholarship since the 1990s suggests that Buddha's dates are more likely to have been approximately 480 BCE-400 BCE.

Vampirism originated when?? Where?? Not quite the same. The original texts are written by Anne Rice and Bram Stoker. Get a grip buddy.

In any case, Buddhism is a major movement, with approximately 700 million followers. There are estimates which are double that [citation needed], though accurate demographic data are difficult to acquire due to the fact that many Buddhists live in nations with oppressive governments, and because of the growing number of Buddhists in the West.

Don't know enough about Wiccans to comment. You can believe I will find out more. From what I understand Wicca stepped into the public spotlight around the early 1900's thanks to Gerald Gardner (or in the states Raymond Buckland), and that they were not all that happy about it. I believe they prefer to remain somewhat secretive if I understand correctly, and they too would probably not welcome your drawing them into such a dubious crowd. They practise rituals 'skyclad' which seems good enough reason to research the subject for me wink2.gif My point being they keep to themselves and I imagine any true Wiccan would be cheesed with you for grouping their sect/religion/coven, whatever the correct term may be, that dates back to Druids, with such a dubious bunch of individuals who overly fantasise novels. Mostly the 'angsty teen' I know you Vampires hate being called that, but hey, look in the mirror. Do you see yourself, YOU SHOULDN'T.

What strength or energy is gained from drinking anothers blood??, what ritual is associated with it?? How many "Vampires" out there even suffer Porphyria?? What enlightenment is achieved by ingesting whole blood, perhaps not even the correct blood type ??? Which God/Lord are Vampires pleasing by ingesting anothers blood?? Biting someone on the neck is not a 'Blood Ritual'. How far back does the 'Vampire' belief go back?? It is all pretty sad when you look at it. Good stories, that's it. Jaws was a good story to. Why don't you lot give up Anne Rice just for a bit and watch a Documentry or something ??

Please , if anyone wants to add to this thread, forget mentioning Porphyria and enlightening us on the different types of 'Vampire' again Read the thread, we have, it is a tired and sad argument that does not support the Vampire fantasy.


Ebony, I'll do what I can thumbsup.gif
jobot37
"technically" vampires have been around for quite some time, but I doubt we are duscussing those. The original vampires were monsters, not goth kids, they were the denizens of hell, uncontrollable ravagers of small eastern European villages, killing and mutilating until they were exhausted, then they do it again. A vampire was certainly never thought to be anything like a human being. A vampire was thought to be something very similar to what we would think of trolls and goblins, an evil species that should without question be slain out of hand and on sight. NOT goth kids who want to feel special and dark and misunderstood, the truth is, we understand them perfectly, they just aren't interesting.
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