I say that no one should say they don't exist. There is no proof that they do exist and no proof that they don't. It is all a matter of science. I like to beleive there arer vampires out there. Who will defy me?

Naturally, if there's no proof they do exist, as you said, then that makes them by default, to not exist. You cannot disprove the existance of something that isn't proven to exist, and since as you said there is no proof, then logic and common sense dictate that they therefore do not exist.

yes but what if the proof was not found yet?

Non-existant until proven to exist.

Well i think in some form the could exist

And then, of course, we would have to define what you are talking about when you say vampire. If you are referring to the modern, Lestat-ish Hollywood vampire, well, those most definitely do not exist, as you can trace each additional power and property back through the history of entertainment. When you come down to it, before Bram Stoker re-defined the image, vampires were more along the lines of what we today refer to as ghouls, as disgusting goblinesque creatures that feast on the flesh of the dead.

I think they exist, they do look like normal people, so you never know. Walking down the srteet late at night, and you pass a man leaning against a builing. As you pass him you hear footsteps behind you, you turn to look, no one there, and as you turn back around to start running. There he is biting your neck. It's very possible that they do exist, so i wouldn't say that they don't.

No, i seriously doubt they exist, apart from the wannabees. Why do you think its probable that they exist?

As with werewolves, I say not a chance!

ever read the novel Dracula? if it werent for that novel no one would question the existence of modern day vampires. i have one word for you, FICTION!

I believe that vampires are just fictional characters...There are people that believe that they are vampires; but then again there are people who think that they are a chicken or a buick, so that doesn't mean much.

A certain segment of the population seems to really get into it and falls into that lifestyle, the gothic dress, makeup and such. It is kids stuff.

Anyone that seriously believes in the existance of vampires and werewolves are in dire need ot a psychiatric examination.

Hell yeah they exsist

VAmpires exist because of rumor and speculation. mabye 500 years ago, there was a reclusive old man named draclaw or something, he liked his meat extra rare, a servant noticed this and bam! instant vampire!

Yo do Realize that there is an ACTUAL Illness that is sort of like vampyreisim and that "old man " was one of the cruellest people in history

ivan was the cruelest man in history.

I wish it were not so, but they are fiction. Immortality would be worth a little blood.lol

They just do not fit into humanity's history...

I can imagine the world to be much more melancholic and aweful if they did exist.

What is so appealing or cool about vampires and their lifestyle?

Immortality, supernatural power. These things have been and always will be appealing to mankind no matter the cost.

Damn it! This is why people want to believe in vampires?!

i think that if nearly everyone around the world has heard of vampires then they must be real or some sort of thing that looks like one. it is highly impossible that one day someone woke up and said that there are vampires.

Blood is the single most obvious life-giving element in existence. What could be a more basic human fear than a monster who drinks your blood and turns you into a monster in the process? There are legends of blood drinkers throughout the world, yet they vary in description as much as dragons. The fact that such a basic property of a monster exists global is more evidence that they are a result of a basic human fear, rather than the highly improbable chance of a legion of creatures evolving the same need for blood, the same infectuous nature, and remaining hidden throughout history.

No two vampires are alike, and Dracula is most definitely a concoction of Hollywood. All the abilities we hear about todays vampires were created for the purpose of taking advantage of cinematic special effects. Lestat is fiction. The ancient historical texts the characters look through to find the vampires weakness don't exist. This is a very modern monster, and all the medical ailments and psychological proximities to their properties doesn't remove the fact that they explain properties that are not historically attributed to the vampire of legend, only to the vampire of entertainment media.

Don't exsist, how could someting live on blood alone? Have a body as hard as marble? I think someone would notice that. There are cases of disease that people drink blood but they also eat their veggies and come out in the sun. Not that I don't want them to be...who doesn't want supernatraul powers and immortality.

But for evil purposes and intentions?! Come on now!!

I agree Aquatus1, the whole thing was blown out of proportion. There was a guy called Vladimir Dracule, and he was basically a freak who liked the taste of blood, I doubt thats all he lived on but he was called a monster due to his behaviour, then like you said Hollywood took over and vampire's were born.
Dispite our recent clashes with some posts, I do find you one of the most informative and Intelligent members on this site, I see us talking allot, providing you don't get tired of me,lol

yes, and there is blade stoping them.

no, just kidding. no such thing but i have no proof. what i can say is that there is a medical condition where people devour blood.

most people that want to be vampires are angsty teens who are being picked on or ar crrraawwwllling in my skinned'd. they are not happy with themselves and want to be powerful because they consider themselves weak. that is why superpowers attract them. it is like most people in the metaphysics forum

Ahhh, Vlad the impalor, he was one of my favourite, olden time people, because he has quite a history.

Just 3 words for you guys who do believe. No no no. If there were vampires, don't you think 100's of people would be dying with bite wounds on their necks. Do you think that happenes daily. Exactly.

vlad was never "evil" against his own people.

What's also funny is that each legend or myth about the vampire can be traced back to it's root in history.

Sometimes a coffin would need to be dug up for cross examination in the old old days. GARLIC would be used to mask the smell of rotting corpse. Sometimes corpses would have dried blood around the mouth, leading someone who oversaw the corpse to believe it had feasted on blood, but naturally many corpses bleed from the mouth after death. Etc etc etc etc.

What people forget, is that medical knowledge 100 years ago or more was not what it is today and as such many things were missunderstood to mean other things.
We know now that bleeding from the mouth does not mean blood sucking!!
It's just common sense that was lacking for the time. And unfortunately, as i see here, lacking in todays world too.

someone could post pictures of decaying corpses but that is not suitable for this site. i have seen it myself. blood around the mouth, teeth growing through the skin because the skin is to weak

this has been discussed so much on other threads....

search people....search

i reckon vampires could be a sub species of humans

but i really have no idea....

maybe some people through history fancied some blood and thats how the stories get started, and exaggerated...

Thanx to everyone who beleives

If you don't belevie and you decide to make fun of goths or people who do beleive, then maybe one day you'll be a victim.

By the way, to "Sex Whatever"

I honestly wouldn't go around saying others need help with a screen name like that.

VAMPIRES RULE
COUNT DRACULA IS SEXY

I think you need to go to school, learn about how the real world, including the human body works, and do a little bit of growing up.

When I say vampire, I mean the whole shebang

Fangs that grow, being able to fly, burning in the sun, feeding on human blood

Hey Burnside

I've read all the Harvard medical books and guess what?
I still have hope!

I think you need to develop the power of imagination
Did you know it's a good skill?
Also, did you know that human anatomy can be altered easily within the boundries and realease of oh: IMAGINATION

Look honey,
if you are sooooooo in touch with reality, why are you even on this website?

BITE ME

(no wait, I take that back, I'll bite you instead)

Creatures of the night rule

hahaha, riiigght, how old are you, 13?
Human anatomy cannot be altered with imagination. You have not read any havard medical books, obviously, don't even try to tell me that.

I'm on this site to discuss and theorize on UNEXPLAINED mysteries, not to explain why a 'vampire' would be impossible to a child who resides in a fantasy realm.

Just when I thought I'd seen it all... At least stuff like this keeps life from getting boring.

Yeah Panthera, but you gotta admit it's getting pretty old.

Fangs that grow came in with mechanical prosthetics in the 80's. Burning in the sun came in "Nosferatu", with the advent of film. Feeding on human blood came in around the middle ages; prior to that they were flesh-eaters as well. Asides from the blood drinking, all the properties are historical novelties to the vampire; none existed prior to 1922, and blood drinking sans flesh eating came from Bram Stroker's Dracula, based on the Middle-Age legends.



I recommend you not make claims of this kind. It is far easier to tell what level of knowledge a person has concerning a given subject than most people would like to think. There is nothing wrong with being an amateur who is trying to learn. An amateur pretending to be a professional doesn't inspire much respect.



If you are talking about proof, which is what the topic post of this thread was talking about, then imagination need not apply. Proof is objective and imperical, not imaginative.

Incidentally, if you are going to claim that imagination can alter human anatomy, please back it up. I can think of no manner in which it can do more than a few psychosomatic special effects, and I am a medical school candidate.

dude vampires definetly exist!

*sigh*
Why bother.

I was thinking that too..

Lol, I was about to ask the same thing.

How old are you, seriously, vampyrlover?

^^^ I second that question ^^^

Yeah I am totally agreeing with burn onthis one, this is seriously getting old. And Panthera, this doesn't really make my life less boring, just more annoying.

If you have read all the Harvartd medical books, i'm sure you'd know what the term Pnuemonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis, means. Try and guess, it will make my day.


DS

Hahahaha,excuse me while i laugh for a while There is already threads on damn 'vampires',and NO,there is NO proof that they exist.They have been discussed many times,and just about everyone knows they are merely fake figures used to scare people in movies

vampyrlover you watch to much movies

Why is it that every few weeks some folks will post something about vampire? Vampires as we know it in novels ro movies don't exist! I think the medical condition in which the body fails to create prophyria, therefore the failure of the body to create proper haemoglobin, hence the pale appearance. Symptoms relating to this disorder is sensitivity to light and to many other chemicals among which is allicin a main component of garlic. However people suffering from this disorder in no way benefits from ingesting haemoglobin, contrary to popular tv or novels.

hahaha riiiiight yourself
I'll be laughing when you're drained dry
just keep on telling yourself that humans are all the same
but hey I guess all the people that do beleive are insane, right?
I need to hear from all the beleivers at gymnast_redhead14_66@msn.com

Vampyrs Rule!
LOL Burnside I bet you have no social life with a pesonality like that....

Actually that would be "too many movies"
Nah I'm not a movie person