All righty then, I feel bad for you all


Whatever

www.google.com

look it up

see the CIA and FBI records of vampire sightings and models



DUH

wow go you

you tell those nonbeleivers



-gothikangel

for all those beleviers, contact me at

gymnast_redhead14_66@hotmail.com

Excuse me? Who said anything about werewolves? Go make your own forum
I seriously wonder what makes you say others are in need of psychiatric examination with a name like Sex Fiend

Whatever people

I guess I should be feeling bad for you....

vampyrlover is a typical type of some one who believes in vampires. you see most people who believe in vampires are angsty goth teens who want to rebel from their parents or want to be different. this type of people have low selfesteem. and want superpowers or anything else to be unique. they cant handle everyday life.



a common misinforming argument for believers in vampires is:"vampires are in every culture" well that is a big lie. it is not. i have looked at egyptian mayan hindu indus sumerian persian cultures and none of them speak of such creatures.
most "vampire sightings" are from after bram stoker's dracula. i Have not seen any sighting before that. i have spent the night at a graveyard and did not see any thing strange at all.

o and if vampires would be real it would not be something out of blade. living only on blood would eventually turn you in a walking corpse.

Now that the case has been made tracing the properties of vampires that you mentioned back to movies and books, and no further, could you explain why it remains a matter of science? Why exactly should we entertain the idea that the modern vampire is anymore real than, say Spiderman?

As an aside, if you wish to believe in vampires, you go right ahead, but I am curious as to why you bring science into this.

Vampires,Werewolves,Mummys and the tooth fairy all exist,I also hear theres a guy with knives for fingers who cuts up kiddies in there sleep.

It's a lung diesiese said to be cause by the inhalation of silica dust.

Have I made your day yet?

Nice Job all of you

I ask a simple question and JESUS CHRIST
you all get freaked out!

"You're insane BLAH BLAH BLAH"

you sound like a bunch of retarded pigeons trying to peck a rabid squirrel

I am neither the pigeon nor the squirrel



I bring science into this because science has to do with everything in the world. Science IS everything in the world. I think I learned that in third grade.

Keep it up people

Great job with those pigeons
Tell you what I'll send a pack of squirrels over to your place-for free!

Again keep it up!

your view o af vampire is exactly like that of the movies. coincedence i dont think so

?



Well, I wouldn't say science is everything, but as a method of evaluating the likelyhood of a possibility, I have found it to be without peer.

The thing to remember, however, is that science is done a certain way. There are specific points that have to be covered in the pursuit of it in order to avoid falling into the trap of subjectivity. Take, for instance, vampires.

The first step in a scientific investigation is to verify the phenomena. What are we talking about? The modern vampire, gothic, brooding, intelligent, blood-thristy, and endowed with supernatural abilities? Does such a thing exist?

In science, one does not begin with a result and look for evidence to support it. Rather, one must provide a logical path from the evidence to the result. Ergo, one cannot assume that the modern vampire exists, and then look for physical ailments, reports, or studies that confirm this. Science is about proving first and confirming after. One cannot confirm without first proving.

All the evidence concerning their properties can be objectively and imperically traced to sources created after the legend began and for the purposes of entertainment. The evidence leads us logically to the conclusion that, since these properties did not exist prior to their appearance in the books and movies, then the most likely explanation is that the properties were created for the books and movies.

Occam's Razor rules in science. The simplest explanation is usually the correct one. If there is no reason to consider the vampire to be real, then one does not assume it is real and attempt to prove it.

Okay,
now YOU'RE trying to be all smart and s*** and I'm sorry to say it's not working. You just sounding really dumb and I suggest you stop.

As for the diseise question, why was there w question mark there? That was the definition whether you like it or not.

What if I told you my friend and I saw two vampires?

(oh and dont give me:

"I'd say you were on crack"

because that got lame)

how di they look? how did they act? share your experience

is there any real need for that?

people have different opinions, nothing more, nothing less....

can't we all just get along

Vampyr, I have been nothing but civil to you, and I ask the same in return.

You are suggesting that the modern vampire is a result of a physical ailment? I would be willing to consider the possibility, however I would have to hear a bit more support for it.

Now, if you claim that you and your friend saw two vampires, my first question would be "Exactly what, in detail, did you see?" Assuming that what you saw were vampires is a bit premature, insofar as a scientific viewpoint goes. Science is about objective and imperical evidence. The first thing I would look for is the objective data hidden within the subjective account.

So, Vampyr, what, exactly, did you see?

And until he's drained dry, I'll be laughing at you. So now... who's gonna be laughing longer?



He's not the one desperate to believe in vampires.



Its a shame you didnt pass third grade with that knowledge.

is there any need to stir it up?

As an aside, I am a bit surprised at the amount of flak this thread has gotten. Even taking into consideration the amount of times this topic has come up, and the overzelousness of Vampyr, I can't say that I am too surprised at her reaction to the posts. Perhaps a bit of restraint is in order for those who do not believe in vampires?

i very much agree...

theres no need for abuse, no matter how strong ones opinions is to a certain subject...

I see we never got vampyr's age, even though it's been requested countless times, leading to the obvious conclusion that he/she is a very young child. So all i have to say, is go play with your dolls, and stop trying to bicker with adults when you only look really stupid by doing so.
I have no social life? As stellar said, i'm not the one who's so pathetically desperate to believe in mythical creatures that defy all laws of nature and existance.

burnie oh i give up, i'm trying to be neutral, never works...

gothic teen angst'd

Amen to that Hotoke.

*donks you both on the head*

anyway, anyone believe that vampires could be just be a mutation of humans?

true they may not be much different from humans, but they just need blood to make up for something that there body doesn't give them....

*Restraining himself from adding an additional donk*

There are a few too many blood drinking monsters spread through the world for me to be comfortable speculating their convergent evolution. It couldn't be a single species, due to the vast distances and rarity between legends. The odds of multiple creatures evolving these traits is a bit too much of a stretch for me.

JESUS CHRIST YOU'RE A DUMB ASS
Actually, I'll be laughing longer because vampires live forever
hahahahhahahaha

*sighs*

Are you claiming to be a vampire?

yep thats me, gothic and angsty
oh my gosh you non-beleivers really do suck
I hope you get raped by a pack of killer squirrels
or better yet, get the blood sucked out of you by a band of mutant vampire hobos
maybe even bitten by a rabid armadillo

Children.

maybe.......

Would it be safe to say that this thread, regardless of who originally cast the first stone, has long since ceased being productive?

Vampyr, I hoped for something a bit more tangible, but I can't say I would consider you singly at fault for this thread becoming a flame war.

I'm out. I can't see this going anywhere.

I think it's long overdue of closure aquatus.

Yeah so I know you all hate me because of what I beleive which is pretty sad if you think about how those skills effecting you in the real world. For instance:

Hating someone because they're Jewish

Hating someone because they're Satanists.



Edit; link removed

this link has absolutely nothing to do with anything we are discussing in this forum but whatever it's still hilarious