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kassumi
I'm sure many of you have heard of the curse or conspiracy about president elected in a year ending in 0 since 1840.
No president has survived his term in office when elected in a year ending with 0:

W H. Harrison (1840) died of pneumonia

Lincoln (1860)
Garfield (1880)
Mc Kinley (whose second term started in 1900)
Kennedy (1960)
[I]All killed assassinated while still in office

Harding (1920) died of heart attack
Roosevelt (1940) died of Polio

And there was an assassination attack on Regan (1980)

So now that Bush was re-elected will he become part of this curse?
pete juffalo
are his days numbered?

i hope so.

no one wants a dumb ass running a super power
kassumi
I know. Surely with so many people wanting him dead this is one link in the chain thats sure not to fail.
pete juffalo
good posting ^

how can so many people be wrong by hating him so much?
jenk
I have a problem were I don't want bush dead......yet I don't want him alive............Could someone put him in a coma or something? innocent.gif
pete juffalo
with pleasure!
Homer
QUOTE(kassumi @ Jan 19 2005, 07:54 AM)
I'm sure many of you have heard of the curse or conspiracy about president elected in a year ending in 0 since 1840.
No president has survived his term in office when elected in a year ending with 0:

W H. Harrison (1840) died of pneumonia

Lincoln (1860)
Garfield (1880)
Mc Kinley (whose second term started in 1900)
Kennedy (1960)
[I]All killed assassinated while still in office

Harding (1920) died of heart attack
Roosevelt (1940) died of Polio

And there was an assassination attack on Regan (1980)

So now that Bush was re-elected will he become part of this curse?
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Lincoln survived his term of office, which was from 1861-1865(elected 1860). Lincoln was assassinated shortly after he began his second term, which began 1865(elected 1864).

F.Roosevelt survived his term from the 1940 election. F.Roosevelt was in his 4th term as President. His presidency began in 1933(elected 1932), and F.Roosevelt died in 1945, which was shortly after his 4th term began in 1945(elected 1944)
bathory
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And there was an assassination attack on Regan (1980)


he survived, doesn't that sort of nullify that "noones survived" statement?
Stellar
Maybe Bush survived the assassination attempt....

Remember the pretzel?

But seriously though, Bush already finished his 2000 term.
joc
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I know. Surely with so many people wanting him dead this is one link in the chain thats sure not to fail.


I would advise all of you who use words associated with the 'killing' of a current President that it could be viewed as a threat by The United States Secret Service.
It is a Felony to threaten a sitting President of the United States. If you think your words are not seen by those who might be inclined to care in that regard, then you are short sighted and quite possibly your days may be numbered.

Disliking the President, even hating him is a choice you get to make. But if you cross a line you will be noticed. yes.gif
Novo
How comforting. Good thing, I love my president huh?
kassumi
Good thing i'm British and untouchable
Homer
QUOTE(Stellar @ Jan 19 2005, 10:11 AM)
But seriously though, Bush already finished his 2000 term.
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His 1st term actually ends(and his 2nd begins) January 20th thumbsup.gif
kassumi
Ah so he only has one day left, lol
joc
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Good thing i'm British and untouchable


Really? Go ahead and threaten a US President and see how 'untouchable' you really are. no.gif
kassumi
Hey i'm not threatening anyone. I'm simply bringing a strange phenomenon to peoples attention.
Anyway if i were to threaten bush i'd probably have to repeat myself several times before he understands, lol grin2.gif
stillcrazy
I have to side with joc on this one. These boards may be monitored to some degree. I don't know if you all remember the FBI's attempt at Carnivore software, seems that the program was closed down officially but who's to say they don't have more devious methods to search the internet.

Big Brother is watching. Make no mistake about it.
joc
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Big Brother is watching. Make no mistake about it.


...and I have to add that it is not entirely a 'bad' thing....it is unfortunately in this climate of war and terror a necessity to some degree. This is one of the more popular if not the most popular forum of its kind and while the gist of jabs are harmless, there is a possibility that even this forum could be used by terrorists to send messages through misinterpreted posts....or am I just being paranoid? mellow.gif
Saru
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there is a possibility that even this forum could be used by terrorists to send messages through misinterpreted posts....or am I just being paranoid?


I'd imagine terrorists would find a less public way to communicate with one another, making cryptic posts on a public forum seems an over complicated and needlessly risky way of doing things.

stillcrazy
QUOTE(SaRuMaN @ Jan 19 2005, 08:40 AM)
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there is a possibility that even this forum could be used by terrorists to send messages through misinterpreted posts....or am I just being paranoid?


I'd imagine terrorists would find a less public way to communicate with one another, making cryptic posts on a public forum seems an over complicated and needlessly risky way of doing things.
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I agree. Many would find it way to confusing to try and plot an major attack here at UM. Too many posts to respond to before they could get the plot across to the other guys. Plus they would become so addicted to the forum, that they wouldn't have time to do anything else.
joc

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I'd imagine terrorists would find a less public way to communicate with one another, making cryptic posts on a public forum seems an over complicated and needlessly risky way of doing things.



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...or am I just being paranoid?  mellow.gif



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The Silver Thong
i'm not to sure but with the new patriot act in place anybody on this planet talking of murdering a president may be in trouble.
Gmac1000
QUOTE(The Silver Thong @ Jan 19 2005, 05:00 PM)
i'm not to sure but with the new patriot act in place anybody on this planet talking of murdering a president may be in trouble.
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Maybe the Joint Chiefs of Staff(the real Government runners) will get tired of him soon enough and we will see the last of him, I do mean the last of him, remember Kennedy anyone? They will use him for what they want and then he will be gone, poof!
I don't want to see Bush dead, he's too cute like a little lost child, who makes up his own words, ever heard of "missunderestimate"?????? this is my favourite Bush word keep 'em coming, 'cause him and his Admin. are the best reality T.V show on. thumbsup.gif I love it.
Freespyryt24
As much as I dislike Bush. I don't wish untimely death on anyone. But it is really creepy the way the numbers work out. And does the '0' mean the year that they first went in to office? That would eliminate some of the disputes of people saying it isn't true cause he is in his second term. I find it quite eerie. I read that somewhere before and it did have more to it that made he go hmm. hmm.gif

And yes, if anyone on here says that they want Bush dead could be in mucho trouble regardless of where you reside. It like americans saying that they want the Queen of England dead. Same thing casue of the power that they possess. The power to dominate and control a country.

And like I said before, I dont wish untimely death on anyone. We have had great presidents and we have had really crappy ones, too. Trial and error, we can only be a better country if we can learn from our mistakes and work together instead of against each other.
Hotoke
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I'd imagine terrorists would find a less public way to communicate with one another, making cryptic posts on a public forum seems an over complicated and needlessly risky way of doing things.



*looks at Loge's posts*
jjtss
The US Gov's prohibition against talking about killing a pres is that a person with a true psychic vision would not post it for fear of being detained as a terrorist indefinitely without counsel or just trial. I do remember way back in the 80's when a fellow in Illinois tried to alert people to the fact that an AA plane was going to crash and burn. He spent three days in jail as a suspect. Soooooo...We become the authors of our own demise by repressing free speech. All of the Bill of Rights is the life of the US. To limit any one of them is to commit national suicide. hmm.gif
bathory
would it be alright for me to threaten my neighbour with death?
same goes for Mr Pres:)
kassumi
Yeah, to be honest i don't wish death on anyone and the patriot act is just evil.
Anyway i think people are far too paranoid about terrorists.
As Michael Moore says its been pumped into our minds by repetition and we see it as a greater threat than it really is.
bathory
pfft michael moore claimed the entire threat of islamic terrorism was a falsehood
kassumi
I respect Micheal Moore because he seems to speak the truth. And of all the years before 9/11 America seemed not to worry about Terrorism. One attack and the counrty fears attack from all sides. With the security in America now, it would be near impossible to form any sort of attack.
jenk
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With the security in America now, it would be near impossible to form any sort of attack.

Don't quit agree there. I agree though that large scale attacks are much more difficult but small ones are still as easy as pie. If I wanted to I could download the anarchist cookbook (one evil book) and head south. A land mine in random areas of isolated high ways would have the country scared out of it's skin. Plus getting a sniper rifle down there I don't think would be to hard. I'm actually surprised stuff like this has not been done (and also thankful). Well there was the washington sniper, but he was just doing for the rush if I remember.
bathory
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Well there was the washington sniper, but he was just doing for the rush if I remember.


nah it was to get custody of his kids, the pair had figured out they'd do a series of random killings, one of them being his ex-wife whom had custody. If i remember correctly at least.
Mekorig
Lets try the Carnivore:

Bush, death, bomb, explosion, nuclear, gas , chemical, gun, bio weapon, wrath of allah, infidels


lets keep trying! grin2.gif
MedicTJ
QUOTE(kassumi @ Jan 20 2005, 09:33 AM)
I respect Micheal Moore because he seems to speak the truth. And of all the years before 9/11 America seemed not to worry about Terrorism. One attack and the counrty fears attack from all sides. With the security in America now, it would be near impossible to form any sort of attack.
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And how do you know that Michael Moore speaks the truth. Just because he made a major motion picture? That's the truth?

So if I decide to make a motion picture....even though I might say things that are misleading or outright false.....it's truth simply because it gets on the silver screen?

This guy is a complete propaganda expert. His movie was timed to coincide with the election in order to try and influence that election. The guy is a snake who crafted his wordings so as not to get in any legal trouble.

Not ONE SINGLE insinuation in his movie (and I say insinuation because he never had the balls to come out and say it was truth) had any factual basis.

Here's just one example: Moore claims that Saudi Arabia has given over $1 billion dollars to family members of George Bush.

TRUTH: That money went to a U.S. defense contractor called BDM, which helped to train the Saudi military and police. The firm is owned by the "Carlyle-Group". The advisory board of that firm in the past included Bush's father, Pres 41.

But according to Michael Moore in Fahrenheit 911, the Saudis paid the Bush family $1 billion.

Do you see how this guy twists things to fit his movie?
kassumi
I don't watch his movies and i wouldn't believe everything i saw in a film. However i've read his books which do contain the sourses of his infomation.
Anyway i guess its down to who you want to believe. I trust Micheal Moore more than Bush but thats just my views.
stillcrazy
Moore's information, is good in one respect. It gives a researcher a place to start if they want to dig into the facts. Most of the stuff he presented in F/9/11 was based on partial documentation, insinuation and not quite the full story.

Much of the documentation leading up to the War in Iraq is available from the White House's own web site. Plus a host of other government sites. In all, you can do all the research yourself wiliest sitting in you undies at home. Draw your own conclusions.

As for Bush's time numbered. And I pointed this out in another thread. Nixon fell from grace while in office. Watergate. Reagan was investigated, and while not impeached, had a serious credibility problem after Iran/Contra Affair. Still too many unanswered questions on that one. Clinton, sex in the white house.
Carter Bush Sr. and Ford all only served a single full term in the white house. So if history repeats itself, then Bush is in store for a major scandal.
bathory
Farenheit 9/11 2: Bushygate

Investigates the scandal involving Bush, a Saudi Princess turned Intern, a stained Burqa hidden in the oval office and its sordid connection to Bin Laden "I've stopped being a terrorist and have started selling my own Bin Laden brand cigars"
stillcrazy
QUOTE(bathory @ Jan 21 2005, 01:34 AM)
Farenheit 9/11 2: Bushygate

Investigates the scandal involving Bush, a Saudi Princess turned Intern, a stained Burqa hidden in the oval office and its sordid connection to Bin Laden "I've stopped being a terrorist and have started selling my own Bin Laden brand cigars"
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kassumi
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NinvestiGator
Well if he gets assassinated and theres gonna be a new president, who knows that president might be even more dumb >< So i guess its still alright if bush is still president

Bush is going to get ownd and screwd over by osamas family members =)

edit; combined consecutive posts. NI, use the edit function at the bottom of your post to add additional dialogue instead of starting a new message.
malakiem
QUOTE(kassumi @ Jan 20 2005, 05:33 AM)
I respect Micheal Moore because he seems to speak the truth. And of all the years before 9/11 America seemed not to worry about Terrorism. One attack and the counrty fears attack from all sides. With the security in America now, it would be near impossible to form any sort of attack.
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Not exactly, there still alot of violence in this country, there was a poll before and it showed that 95 percent of violence is caused by foreigners who came into this country and have plunked down in a certain city. Even though bush says were safe, were not. Hell, we still have a bad drug problem and isn't home security supposed to prevent them from coming in from the first place?
bathory
its impossible to stop drugs coming into the country (also ignoring that there would also be allot of homemade product floating around. Its impossible to stop terrorists from entering the country, plain and simple, thus the patriot act, expands already existing organised crime laws to include terrorist suspects. I don't know how people keep ignoring that, if the US government wanted to spy on you pre-patriot act, they could have just deemed you a suspect in organised crime and pretty much done the same as what the patriot act allows them to do. (if i'm not mistaken)
Gmac1000
QUOTE(bathory @ Jan 23 2005, 03:28 AM)
its impossible to stop drugs coming into the country (also ignoring that there would also be allot of homemade product floating around. Its impossible to stop terrorists from entering the country, plain and simple, thus the patriot act, expands already existing organised crime laws to include terrorist suspects. I don't know how people keep ignoring that, if the US government wanted to spy on you pre-patriot act, they could have just deemed you a suspect in organised crime and pretty much done the same as what the patriot act allows them to do. (if i'm not mistaken)
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The goverment relies on the drug trade to help them financially, why do you think that they make commercials just to ban weed and not coke or heroin which are the major drug rings, pulling in way more money that weed ever could, the only problem with that is that you don't see many people stoned on weed go out and kill someone for weed, but there are many that go out and kill for coke or heroin, but they seemed to be happy with the numbers. And before you all think that I am directing this just at America, your wrong, I live in Canada now and it is the same problem, and I am from Britain and there is also that problem. So as long as the big drug dealers keep making incredible amounts of cash, the government will be happy to let this continue.

"I could be wrong, but its just my opinion"
"Dennis Miller"
Curiosity
QUOTE(Mekorig @ Jan 20 2005, 11:08 AM)
Lets try the Carnivore:

Bush, death, bomb, explosion, nuclear, gas , chemical, gun, bio weapon, wrath of allah, infidels


lets keep trying! grin2.gif
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bathory
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why do you think that they make commercials just to ban weed and not coke or heroin which are the major drug rings


uh...because weed is far more popular with young people and it could also be considered a 'gateway'drug?

also all these drugs are illegal, the commercials are just the governments attempt at 'educating' the youth as they say, i personally don't think its effective but thats irrelevant to the reasoning behind it.
Gmac1000
QUOTE(bathory @ Jan 24 2005, 03:05 PM)
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why do you think that they make commercials just to ban weed and not coke or heroin which are the major drug rings


uh...because weed is far more popular with young people and it could also be considered a 'gateway'drug?

also all these drugs are illegal, the commercials are just the governments attempt at 'educating' the youth as they say, i personally don't think its effective but thats irrelevant to the reasoning behind it.
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The only Gateway weed opens up is the "food gate", though I have heard that weed is supposed to lead you to other drugs, which I personally think that's
B@%#$&%T, peer pressure and bad influence causes coke and other harder drug use. I have only ever smoked weed and I never had or will never have the urge to try something harder. They would love to make you belive that weed is a gateway drug to be able to have society frown upon users. If weed is a "gateway" drug, as you put it, then what would that make alcohol, I mean more accidents and violence are caused by alcohol that any other drug, it is scientifically proven to be more harmful than weed, it impairs your mind quicker and with less amounts, and it kills mass amount of braincells, it also has to go through chemical stages like coke and heroin and even cigarettes, but weed grows naturally????hmm! Weed also acts as a Anti-nauseant, pain relief for chronic arthritis, and this is all clinically proven, so you can't get all rowdy Bathory cause I am just the messenger on this one, though I doubt you will get the message.
bathory
god, listen, whether or not it is or isn't a gateway drug is entirely irrelevant, i also don't think it is, i have smoked it before and have not gone onto anything stronger, i'm just saying, THAT is the way the government thinks, it is the way the lobbyists who get those commercials on TV think.

But its nice to see you go off on a complete tangent to what was being discussed.
Shivel
We went from Bush's time being numbered to drugs...that was interesting yes.gif
kassumi
Yeah that it a topic jump, wait i thought i heard that Bush was once on drugs...no wait i think i'm wrong...again, lol happy.gif

Anyway that why small topic jump for you, once giant leap for the boards, lol
Gmac1000
......Okay then, Bush's time is most definitely numbered, whether it's fate or he will create his own destiny through greed or even yet his own stupidity.
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