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marduk
They were originally for accomodation and defense.
Later after the megalomania set in they were built for the king to live in when he'd snuffed it.
ok
none of it included archaeoaudio theory or systems.
as far as i know
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chedster
I was wondering after reading all of these posts, whoever there is a scientific query into something of this magnitude, it is typical to create a "control" so as to be able to refer back to a entity that you able to reference fully. Stay with me here...
So, with the earth being a relative sphere, and with all the power and money the yanks have wouldn't it be feasible to just build another Pyramid to study in the same place on the earth, just on the other side. I mean if it is worthy of all these theories, why not just build one and check it out?

Also I was reading about the time when the Pyramid had their original Limestone sheets on them before they where plundered. Well what the article was saying was that because of the angle of the walls and all and the way the Limestone was polished when you where a certain distance away from the pyramids you could not actually see them. As the limestone reflected the light to such an extent that they became "invisible" OH they were there but they were in the same sort of place as the F117 spyplane with the radical angles on that, radar ie sight was simply not reflected back to the person looking for them.

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marduk
QUOTE(chedster @ Apr 10 2005, 09:32 PM)
I was wondering after reading all of these posts, whoever there is a scientific query into something of this magnitude, it is typical to create a "control" so as to be able to refer back to a entity that you able to reference fully. Stay with me here...
So, with the earth being a relative sphere, and with all the power and money the yanks have wouldn't it be feasible to just build another Pyramid to study in the same place on the earth, just on the other side. I mean if it is worthy of all these theories, why not just build one and check it out?

Also I was reading about the time when the Pyramid had their original Limestone sheets on them before they where plundered. Well what the article was saying was that because of the angle of the walls and all and the way the Limestone was polished when you where a certain distance away from the pyramids you could not actually see them.  As the limestone reflected the light to such an extent that they became "invisible" OH they were there but they were in the same sort of place as the F117 spyplane with the radical angles on that,  radar ie sight was simply not reflected back to the person looking for them.

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the pyramids in egypt are amongst the youngest on earth.
do people study trees by looking at saplings
chedster
Saplings?, funnily enough they do my friend,

I was simply talking about the internal schematics of them, the shafts, chambers etc.
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Datah
QUOTE(chedster @ Apr 10 2005, 09:00 PM)
Saplings?,  funnily enough they do my friend, 

I was simply talking about the internal schematics of them, the shafts, chambers etc.
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Chedster, I fail to see your logic. what could be learned from a replica that cannot be learned from the original?
chedster
Not sure to be honest, consider it a rush of blood to the head, Back in the earlier postings there were ideas about the resonance of air to create certain musical tones, there are the astrological potentials, also you could look at theories of "hidden" chambers etc, and then instead of digging around to find them you could actually go to them. Not sure here Datah just thinking aloud. All sorts of theorems could be explored with fear or recriminations of the Egyptians being pissed off at you.
marduk
QUOTE(chedster @ Apr 10 2005, 10:52 PM)
Not sure to be honest, consider it a rush of blood to the head, Back in the earlier postings there were ideas about the resonance of air to create certain musical tones, there are the astrological potentials, also you could look at theories of "hidden" chambers etc, and then instead of digging around to find them you could actually go to them. Not sure here Datah just thinking aloud. All sorts of theorems could be explored with fear or recriminations of the Egyptians being pissed off at you.
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You're worried about the egyptians ?
you mean the ancient egyptians or the modern ones.
either way i don't think they'll give you any trouble thumbsup.gif grin2.gif
Datah
QUOTE(marduk @ Apr 10 2005, 09:58 PM)
QUOTE(chedster @ Apr 10 2005, 10:52 PM)
Not sure to be honest, consider it a rush of blood to the head, Back in the earlier postings there were ideas about the resonance of air to create certain musical tones, there are the astrological potentials, also you could look at theories of "hidden" chambers etc, and then instead of digging around to find them you could actually go to them. Not sure here Datah just thinking aloud. All sorts of theorems could be explored with fear or recriminations of the Egyptians being pissed off at you.
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You're worried about the egyptians ?
you mean the ancient egyptians or the modern ones.
either way i don't think they'll give you any trouble thumbsup.gif grin2.gif
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What marduk said! and, one other thing, if you are afraid of any country (Egypt included) just write our President a letter and ask him to get those bullies off your back. I'm sure you will get a favorable response. Our colors don't run. angry.gif
cozmic
maybe they were trying to send a sound..
chedster
QUOTE(cozmic @ Apr 11 2005, 11:15 AM)
maybe they were trying to send a sound..
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Go on.. huh.gif
cozmic
looking for an extraterrestrial version of SETI
FranzJosef
Q:

New to this thread (and the forums for that matter) but I like this discussion.

My question involves a topic an engineer made to me that I cannot check or find any substance for at least where I've been looking.

According to the engineer, the pyramids would have sank centuries ago if they'd have been built on sand, they were built on the hardest rockbed around. It would not have been easy for them to know. As recently as the 1950s builders in America were wrong about locations and put up buildings that partially sank. No kidding, an building near me on the river is making like the Titanic right now. Only lots slower.

Even better is that they earthquake-proofed the Great Pyramid. This is the part I cannot check or document. There are supposed to be 4 or 5 or 6 mammoth socket stones below ground level that the pyramid sits on. This way when the earth rocks and rolls, the stones take the motion and the pyramid stays in place. If not for them the GP would have crumbled long ago.

I wonder if this is true. Ifso the stones would have to be really huge.
Datah
QUOTE(FranzJosef @ Apr 11 2005, 06:04 AM)
Q:

New to this thread (and the forums for that matter) but I like this discussion.

My question involves a topic an engineer made to me that I cannot check or find any substance for at least where I've been looking.

According to the engineer, the pyramids would have sank centuries ago if they'd have been built on sand, they were built on the hardest rockbed around.  It would not have been easy for them to know.  As recently as the 1950s builders in America were wrong about locations and put up buildings that partially sank.  No kidding, an building near me on the river is making like the Titanic right now.  Only lots slower.

Even better is that they earthquake-proofed the Great Pyramid.  This is the part I cannot check or document.  There are supposed to be 4 or 5 or 6 mammoth socket stones below ground level that the pyramid sits on.  This way when the earth rocks and rolls, the stones take the motion and the pyramid stays in place.  If not for them the GP would have crumbled long ago.

I wonder if this is true.  Ifso the stones would have to be really huge.
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Franz,

i have been researching this subject for the past twenty two years and I have never heard of the stones you speak of. I do however see your point that something must keep the Great pyramid steady. If you will find a picture of the GP East face, one that shows the shafts inside the pyramid you can see that the bedrock isn't flat. The builders left a very large part of the bedrock in place in order to stablelize the structure. As you can see the pyramid cannot move because of the raised bedrock. There was an earth quake that damaged the King's chamber long ago. yes.gif
marduk
QUOTE(cozmic @ Apr 10 2005, 11:38 PM)
looking for an extraterrestrial version of SETI
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Thats the cutest thing I've ever heard about the pyramids
did anyone tell Frank Drake
The Roswell Man
if the giza pyramids was a power station, what wuld have been its output? huh.gif hmm.gif
marduk
well seeing as there wasn't a generator there it would be approximately o.o volts per hour. Sorry I can't be more specific.
Maybe they forgot to plug it in eh w00t.gif
Gabriel
yes there are sockets under the structures, that do prevent it from sinking. when they made plans for this they took in account for everything.
Datah
QUOTE(Gabriel @ Apr 11 2005, 02:06 PM)
yes there are sockets under the structures, that do prevent it from sinking. when they made plans for this they took in account for everything.
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Gabriel,

May I ask where I can find the documented info. about the sockets under the Great pyramid? I know about the sockets at each corner on the surface of the bedrock, but I'm unaware of those beneath the surface.
The Roswell Man
he may b pullin ur leg there.
marduk
QUOTE(Gabriel @ Apr 11 2005, 03:06 PM)
yes there are sockets under the structures, that do prevent it from sinking. when they made plans for this they took in account for everything.
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i don't suppose asking for a copy of these blueprints you mention woulld be fruitfull either
Datah
QUOTE(Gabriel @ Apr 11 2005, 02:06 PM)
yes there are sockets under the structures, that do prevent it from sinking. when they made plans for this they took in account for everything.
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Gabriel,

Shame on you! With a name such as yours you shouldn't mislead others no.gif
The Gabriel I heard of was honest, straight forward, and to the point. Somewhat like, well, me yes.gif
You're forgiven this time, but see to it that it never happens again. If it should happen again, well, you know what to expect devil.gif hehehe
marduk
QUOTE(Datah @ Apr 11 2005, 04:06 PM)
QUOTE(Gabriel @ Apr 11 2005, 02:06 PM)
yes there are sockets under the structures, that do prevent it from sinking. when they made plans for this they took in account for everything.
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Gabriel,

Shame on you! With a name such as yours you shouldn't mislead others no.gif
The Gabriel I heard of was honest, straight forward, and to the point. Somewhat like, well, me yes.gif
You're forgiven this time, but see to it that it never happens again. If it should happen again, well, you know what to expect devil.gif hehehe
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I'm hoping that Gabriel you know isn't the christian one datah.
honest, straight forward, and to the point doesn't describe him all too well
hehe
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The Roswell Man
*expects flame wars* ph34r.gif crying.gif disgust.gif w00t.gif
marduk
well i'm obviously not expecting to be struck by lightning.
Datah
QUOTE(marduk @ Apr 11 2005, 04:12 PM)
well i'm obviously not expecting to be struck by lightning.
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Evidently this pseudo angelic being has chosen not to bear arms in the face of truth. tongue.gif
The Roswell Man
mayb the Big man will take over 4 him..... disgust.gif sad.gif tongue.gif
marduk
see, nothing to worry about
I'm batting for the other team
allegedly
The Roswell Man
apparently pyramids used for tombs is a good idea except...
giza evidence is circumstansial
marduk
QUOTE(The Roswell Man @ Apr 11 2005, 05:57 PM)
apparently pyramids used for tombs is a good idea except...
giza evidence is circumstansial
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nope
its simple addition basically
pyramid for accomodation + megalomania = pyramid for tomb
The Roswell Man
i mean egyptians hijacked it for tombs.
used for other purpose b4 they came to giza.
unless u can prove otherwise?
marduk
of course i can prove it.
The egyptians are from egypt. so they could hardly come along and hijack them when theyre in their front garden can they.
The egyptians built all the pyramids in egypt
but thats all
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Datah
QUOTE(marduk @ Apr 11 2005, 05:21 PM)
of course i can prove it.
The egyptians are from egypt. so they could hardly come along and hijack them when theyre in their front garden can they.
The egyptians built all the pyramids in egypt
but thats all
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Marduk,

Are you Orthodox or Unorthodox. I seem to detect a reluctance in you to agree with things that doesn't bear evidence of being true. Now what say ye, yes.gif or no.gif ?
Gabriel
Reason #1:
Like 20th century bridge designs, the Pyramid's cornerstones have balls and sockets built into them. Several football fields long, the Pyramid is subject to expansion and contraction movements from heat and cold, as well as earthquakes, settling, and other such phenomena. After 4,600 years it's structure would have been significantly damaged without such construction.

Reason 2:
Only a solid stone mountain could endure the Pyramid's immense weight. And indeed, a flat solid granite mountain happens to be located just beneath the surface of the ground directly under the Pyramid.
tongue.gif boo ya!

http://www.europa.com/~edge/pyramid.html

The page messes up but the info there.
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Datah
QUOTE(Gabriel @ Apr 11 2005, 06:01 PM)
Reason #1:
Like 20th century bridge designs, the Pyramid's cornerstones have balls and sockets built into them. Several football fields long, the Pyramid is subject to expansion and contraction movements from heat and cold, as well as earthquakes, settling, and other such phenomena. After 4,600 years it's structure would have been significantly damaged without such construction.

Reason 2:
Only a solid stone mountain could endure the Pyramid's immense weight. And indeed, a flat solid granite mountain happens to be located just beneath the surface of the ground directly under the Pyramid.
tongue.gif  boo ya!

http://www.europa.com/~edge/pyramid.html

The page messes up but the info there.
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Gabriel,

Are you saying that the mountain of granite directly beneath the GP is a socket and ball?

I went to the link you gave but was unable to locate any relation of a ball and socket  below the surface of the bedrock.

Please cut and paste the reference to the socket below the surface. no.gif

FranzJosef
QUOTE(Datah @ Apr 11 2005, 10:19 AM)
Gabriel,

May I ask where I can find the documented info. about the sockets under the Great pyramid?


Yes that was my question too.

I should mention that the engineer was not pulling my leg or anything. The only place I have seen it offline is in Giza Death Star by someone named Farrell. This didn't seem a proper source to me.

But it was a diagram Farrell got from an older book and might have been speculation?
Gabriel
as to below?!?! i must of missed something in a prevous post.

it wouldnt need one. seeing as it sits on granite...............
oh in ref to the seti thingy seeing as the thing weighs a whole heck of a lot , i cant see it being a satalite.

My mistake, i thout u were talking about the sockets within the pyrmids
helping prevent the sinking of the structure as a whole, when i said they took in acoutn for everything i ment they knew they were on a solid rock base, which even knowing that spot is all most the center of the earth a good foundation is needed for every building, they ment for these to last. if u all want to know a bout the cornerstone ball and sockets i can provide more info.


here http://www.nazarite.net/discovery/great-pyramid.html
Gabriel
http://library.thinkquest.org/28204/page18.html

heres another one
Datah


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Gabriel
Today, 02:06 PM Post #67

yes there are sockets under the structures, that do prevent it from sinking. when they made plans for this they took in account for everything

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Gabriel,

Is the statement above what you were mistaken about?
LarryOldtimer
QUOTE(The Roswell Man @ Apr 11 2005, 09:57 AM)
apparently pyramids used for tombs is a good idea except...
giza evidence is circumstansial
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If you want to call non existent by the word "circumstantial", be my guest. There is not a shred of direct evidence that the Great Pyramid was used or intended for a tomb. One thing I noticed while I was in Egypt . . . all of the known to be funerary items were without exception literally covered with carvings and inscriptions. Every damn one! And it was obvious looking at those places known to be tombs that the work on the tomb stopped when the Pharaoh the tomb was being prepared for died. The incomplete work is quite evident.

Now, as a professional engineer, I have no doubt that the Great Pyramid could have been constructed by means available to the Egyptians of the time . . . but I don't think for a minute that it could have been completed in the lifetime of any one pharaoh. No way, no how. And how archaeologists could ever have thought that a plain old stone box, with nary a single inscription, would have been in any way suitable to house the body of a great pharaoh is beyond me. That would have been a singular pharaoh indeed.
Essan
QUOTE(Gabriel @ Apr 11 2005, 06:01 PM)

Only a solid stone mountain could endure the Pyramid's immense weight. And indeed, a flat solid granite mountain happens to be located just beneath the surface of the ground directly under the Pyramid.

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Well duh! That's why they built them there, rather than half a mile down the road....wink2.gif

The fact they built them where it was possible to built them rather than somewhere where it wasn't possible to build them proves only that they knew where best to build them tongue.gif

(Notwithstanding the possibility that the platforms on which the Giza pyramids were built may have been built for other purposes at an earlier date.... cool.gif )
Essan
btw - I understand the Sphinx was built where it is in order to be as close as possible to the nearest McDonalds and KFC......ohmy.gif
marduk
So under the left paw in a circular chamber ?
the portaloo ?
lol
Datah
QUOTE(Datah @ Apr 11 2005, 05:35 PM)
QUOTE(marduk @ Apr 11 2005, 05:21 PM)
of course i can prove it.
The egyptians are from egypt. so they could hardly come along and hijack them when theyre in their front garden can they.
The egyptians built all the pyramids in egypt
but thats all
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Marduk,

Are you Orthodox or Unorthodox. I seem to detect a reluctance in you to agree with things that doesn't bear evidence of being true. Now what say ye, yes.gif or no.gif ?
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Marduk,

I thought we were friends, why are you avoiding my question? I promise I want tell no.gif
marduk
QUOTE(Datah @ Apr 13 2005, 12:09 AM)
QUOTE(Datah @ Apr 11 2005, 05:35 PM)
QUOTE(marduk @ Apr 11 2005, 05:21 PM)
of course i can prove it.
The egyptians are from egypt. so they could hardly come along and hijack them when theyre in their front garden can they.
The egyptians built all the pyramids in egypt
but thats all
w00t.gif
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Marduk,

Are you Orthodox or Unorthodox. I seem to detect a reluctance in you to agree with things that doesn't bear evidence of being true. Now what say ye, yes.gif or no.gif ?
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Marduk,

I thought we were friends, why are you avoiding my question? I promise I want tell no.gif
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I didn't realise you had asked me a question datah. I thought you were being rhetorical
The answer to your question is simple
I am completely orthodox up until about 2500bce
Anytime before that my view would be considered unorthodox.
well would be considered unorthodox at the moment
I'm hoping to change that but as you know thats not something I can do from with a public opinion of me being unorthodox
so i bide my time and try to help those out who i can that are on the same path.
If you want to e mail me the specific question you want answered I may oblige
you never know you're luck
It wouldn't be the first time
Essan
I like to think I'm entirely orthodox - science and archaeology just hasn't caught up with the truth yet wink2.gif
marduk
QUOTE(Essan @ Apr 13 2005, 10:47 AM)
I like to think I'm entirely orthodox - science and archaeology just hasn't caught up with the truth yet wink2.gif
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Yeah i heard that about you.
How's the treatment going
has the medical profession agreed you're not insane yet
fingers crossed eh
lolol thumbsup.gif
Essan
QUOTE(marduk @ Apr 13 2005, 09:51 AM)
QUOTE(Essan @ Apr 13 2005, 10:47 AM)
I like to think I'm entirely orthodox - science and archaeology just hasn't caught up with the truth yet wink2.gif
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Yeah i heard that about you.
How's the treatment going
has the medical profession agreed you're not insane yet
fingers crossed eh
lolol thumbsup.gif
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LOL! I'm on UM talking to you (when I should be working) - nuff said w00t.gif w00t.gif w00t.gif
marduk
QUOTE(Essan @ Apr 13 2005, 11:40 AM)
QUOTE(marduk @ Apr 13 2005, 09:51 AM)
QUOTE(Essan @ Apr 13 2005, 10:47 AM)
I like to think I'm entirely orthodox - science and archaeology just hasn't caught up with the truth yet wink2.gif
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Yeah i heard that about you.
How's the treatment going
has the medical profession agreed you're not insane yet
fingers crossed eh
lolol thumbsup.gif
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LOL! I'm on UM talking to you (when I should be working) - nuff said w00t.gif w00t.gif w00t.gif
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keep taking the pills andy
You'll need em if you keep talking to me
The Roswell Man
i read sumwhere that the eygyptian civ started as desert nomads that settled in a valley the the nile river? huh.gif
is this incorrect?
Essan
Around 5,200 years ago there was a small, but subtle, shift in global weather patterns. Until then, the Sahara had enjoyed several thousand years as grassy savannah, with plenty of lakes and rivers. It's believed that human inhabitants of that time were primarily nomadic herders. When the climate changed and the great drought began to dry up the Sahara, they migrated eastwards towards the one still reliable source of water: the Nile. Maybe they had already enjoyed trade with the tribes that farmed alongside the Nile?

From this merge of cultures arose the first Egyptian kindom.

Well, if you believe the more-or-less orthodox view, anyway wink2.gif

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