Theres been some talk on here about the chirping pryamid in Preu, and the ones in egypt. Now for a while i was wondering what have might made them so special, and i think i might have and idea here. Music and or sound.
im kind of talking about Helmholz Resonance, if u dont know thats ok cuz ill tell ya.
Helmholz resonance happens when u blow across the top of a pop bottle, and u get the low FUUUM sound it makes. the air in the bottle is springy and when u blow across the top of it u force the air down and u get that sound.
Still with me?
OK so in preu theres this chirping pryamid that when u clap ur hands u get the pyramid to make a chirping bird sound, and i thinkit works off this princpal.
OF corse theres a little more to it like the blueprint of the structure that alows the air to make this sound, but thats why i think u get the chirping sound.
So to recap the claping of the hands at the pryamid messes with the air presure and creates the chirp.
Dont go anywhere hang on allmost done.
OK so remember the passages that are pluged up in the pryamid in egypt?And all the little shafts that lead to the position of the stars and things. What if some were pluged for a reason? What if they arnt star shafts and are really air shafts!
I think if u were to pull out all the plugs in the great pryamid and all the air were to rush over the holes it would create a note, maybe a hevanly note used for meditation, rituals what ever. What do u all think? Could the note be the note to possably open a hall of records, since it is said by Thoth that one note from a person will open the hall, and i seem to maybe remembering edger casye saying something about it. Thoth created words through sound but there is no exampel of sound being important like in preu. COuld this be it ?

Did the hall of records open for you in Peru? Sound is interesting and i can see the Pyramid as a giant whistle to call the ancients back. no just jking but I can feel the pyramids are so not understood that they may hold multi functions. The holes may even be access ways for astral beings for whatever purpose. Sound effects the bodies vibrations and can galvanise a crowd and even distort matter.

well, in egypt, they were used as tombs for their pharos. to honnor them or some such cal.

The Pyramids were not Pharaohs' Tombs, that is an evil lie! There were Astronomical Observatories. The air shafts pointed at Stars, When they line up, You have the same position relative to the Stars no matter what the season. In the darkened interiors of the Pyramids it would be possible to see the Stars even during the Day. The shafts were later sealed to prevent them from getting clogged.

Incorrect. The shafts aren't straight, even in the main sections. All four of them travel horizontally before angling upwards towards the outside. About a quarter of the way up, they were corrected for deviation, due to an error in construction. There is no direct line of sight from the interior to the exterior. Incidentally, this radical change in angle rules out musical production as well. The effect relies on a fixed amount of air to be compressed, and the connected chambers of the pyramid, their volume, when compered to the size of the shafts, do not displace enough air to compress what is already present. The air shafts would have to be significantly wider and straighter.

UPUHAUT Project

They say something is hidden or burried in the cancun region of mexico (what's it called)? Edgar Cayce said something along the lines of it, still wondering if it's true.

thats y i thought the pyramid would maKe a sound becuase of the bent air shafts, mabe being bent it requires less force to make the sound.? and maybe its not so much of a note per say but a hum. like if u have a 4 door car and u crak the back windows and u get that low pressure noise like a helicopter sound. dig?
y would they clog them up when ur country it just sand?

Sound is underestimated in this day and age

There are to many theories to account for, so Ill just stick to the they were meant to marvel at theory.

When people see them they can't help, but to just stand in wonder, and amazement of how these monuments were built. Nonetheless these ancient skyscrapers are an outstanding achievement of human architecture, and geometry.

A remarkable piece of history that we can only hope will be with us for a long time.

TNO

An angle actually requires more force to make a sound, due to the increased energy required to make a turn, as opposed to move in a straight line.

Regardless, when people refer to sound in the Context of the Giza Pyramid, what they are usually referring to are the acoustics in the King's Chamber. The construction, as well as the material, results in a phenomenon known as convergent waves, were a single sound wave bounces of multiple surfaces, and overlaps in one spot, creating a concentrated wave that has the same frequency, but slightly higher energy, than the original. The price, of course, is the weakening of the wave energy overall. In the King's chamber, the effect is best felt with low frequency sounds, such as a low rumble in the throat. This echos and builds to the point where, done loudly enough, you can feel slight vibrations in your chest resonating with the sound. It is an eerie effect, to say the least, particularly prior to the advent of electrical lighting, but not really mysterious in any sort of unexplained sense.

ok, i see what ur saying. so what a bout a higher note resonated? or suppose u can figuar out where the sound over laps like, when i went to washington dc i remember a story a bout a senitor that had a desk around the capital, the room was large and open and everyones voice echoed really well. his desk sat at the perfect spot that if he laid his head down a little bit he could hear what the otheer senitors were conspireing about. could the overlaping spot interact with quartz, becuase of the energy? the pryamid did have a cap stone at one time made of gold.

What do you mean by interact? Anything in the sweet spot of the room (this is the same thing that home audio people look for in designing your stereo system for your home) will be subject to the sound, but unless it is on the same sympathetic frequency, there really won't be too much of an effect. The human sternum vibrates when exposed to low frequency sounds. Higher frequency sounds wouldn't affect it. Quartz, to my understanding, has a very high frequency resonation. I can't think of any sound in the audible spectrum that could affect it. Consider that quartz is what is used to keep time in most digital watches. Considering the incredible range of noises the average watch is exposed to, if an audible sound could have affected the quartz oscillator, your watch would be close to worthless as a time keeper.

The senator thing isn't really a case of convergent waves; it is simply reflected sound, reflected precisely and with little loss of energy due to the quality of the dome.

Incidentally, the capstone of pyramids were not made of gold; They were made out of limestone, laminated with thin sheets of gold or electrum.

Little blue almighty men that live under Antartica built them. I really want to meet one of those little critters, get them to teach me their wisdom. Hahaha. It would rooooock.

i see what ru saying , and what do u think they were use for aquatus im intrested to hear ur idea.

The area in which the pyramids reside havent always just been sand Gabriel.

From what i remember there was a decent amount of vegetation around the times of there construction

I think they were built as a display of glory. Cultures throughout the world have made incredibly large and complex structures out of whatever was at hand. There are cultures than made immense cathedrals out of nothing but bundled straw. There are cultures that created elaborate tombs using nothing but packed sand. Their materials didn't stand the test of time, like the limestone used by the ancient Egyptians. Today, we do similar things. Dubai is well on its way as the most wonders per capita of any nation on Earth, including the world's tallest hotel, the world's largest man-made island, and the world's largest incense burner. Why did they do this? So that Dubai would receive the glory. So that, as a country, it would grow in the eyes of their peers. If the pyramids were ever meant as tombs, I honestly think that was only a secondary consideration. Ultimately, the finance, the effort, and the driving force behind the construction of the pyramids, like the construction of any awesome monument, was the glory of the nation.

You are correct!

However, these Astronomical Observatories were made for the inner senses. They were not as these Modern Observatories of this day and age. The complex devices that were within these Pyramids were removed by the Sages of the Atlantean-Akaldan-Society. These devices would be useless for our Modern Astrologers, because they were built for the inner senses and not for the five outer senses.

Some of those Atlantean devices are hidden within the himalayan caves!

wait wait wait.............. wait, hidden himalayan caves? could u elaborate on ur story loge? maybe thow a link or an artical in there or something?

not a bad idea, built for the glory of egypt, yea many countries do this , effel tower, lady liberty.ect

Loge doesn't really do elaborations or links. Or sense, but hey, maybe that can change.

Let me put an example for you; since you are an "aquatic" creature, obviously you can only understand everything related with water, however, if you manage to learn how to breath air, then you will be able to emerge from the waters, thus, you will know a completely unknown world for your aquatic senses (five senses)!

Nonetheless, since you have aquatic qualities (that I do not covet at all), you might be able to investigate the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean; there you will find a buried Pyramid with some of those Atlantean devices that connect the physical dimension with the superior dimensions. Maybe, this way, you might be able to enter into time (the fourth dimension) and to understand why the Subjective Reasoning cannot understand the Objective Reasoning.

Learn how to travel in the Astral Plane (OBE), thus, you will find the answers for too many unexplained mysteries, and logically, you will find new mysteries to resolve. Perform super efforts in order to get out from within that eggshell where you are trapped by your own whim!

Why thanks for the elaberation loge!

The theory about sound makes sense for two reasons:
1. It is reported in ancient texts that the ancients who built the pyramids could "move huge stones with just the sound of their voices"
and
2. Graham Hancock makes the observation that the pyramids seem to be edifices created for some sort of specific function.

I don't think the theory of a sound function is complete, but it certainly is a first step in the right direction.

kind of the same way the coral castle was built in florida, it was said that he used sound to move tons of coral but no body can find out why.
it sounds very sci-fi but if everything has a tone or vibrates, maybe the disanent (clashing octives) can minipulate the tone.

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Almost as important as the many hours reading studying through the links is your opinons or if not opinions what you wanted to say about the links...

I had an idea that the pyramids could have been to alter the horoscopes of newborn royalty. If the mother was taken inside before giving birth, the baby could have been brought out at a more auspicious time.

Think of it! dead pharaoh coming to life in the pyramids! yes!

Coyote think thats one boring afterlife!

Actually, let's not forget the two sea going ships that are now in the Cairo Museum. From what I understand- they were unearthed in dockslips next to the largest Giza Pyramid. That was once a very wet and fertile area, according to Achaeologists.

Also, recently read somewhere that NASA was conducting experiments in the Great Pyramid, and that it involved the fact that they (the Pryamids) were constructed for a Harmonic/ Acoustic purpose. I have since seen no followup or results from that study.

The discovery of the door in the Gantenbrink shaft leads me to imagine that there was some sort of control system to open and close the doors as they saw fit. Almost like a pipe organ perhaps? I know that since Zahi Hawass has expelled most foreign archaeologists from the necropolis, there has been some speculation that his team has been digging within the pyramid and has actually found new chambers. Enterprise mission had on its website some stills of video with Hawass, where you can clearly see evidence of recent excavation in the background at a previously untouched part of the site, inside the pyramid.

Its always seemed to me that Hawass' main objective is to prove that his culture constructed the pyramids and the sphinx. While I don't think that it is true, I can understand his position. Even though the site clearly belongs to Egypt, I can see why they would want to make a water tight ancestral link to it. I also thought it was interesting he was made National Geographics explorer in residence. great way for him to evangelize his position.

I believe, but have no proof, that there is definitely some sort of Harmonic role that play into the construction. Some of what we do know is this:

There is no proof, nor has there ever been, that these were used as tombs.
The Kings chamber and the Queens Chamber were named such due to the shape of the rooms themselves by Archaeologists. The Kings chamber has sharp edges, therefore more male. The Queens chamber has a rounded ceiling, hence more female.

Some of the blocks used in the ceiling of the Kings chamber are almost 100 tons each. According to what I have read, there are only a handful of cranes on the entire planet that can lift a single object that heavy. They are mainly used in the railroad industry to place locomotives on tracks.

Almost all of the later pyramids are showing decay and destabilization that so far is not observed in the three main pyramids. I would love to see our culture try to build one of these, with modern technology(cranes, etc...), but utilizing the same block size of stone, and without mortar or any adhesive. Could it be done?

Best regards

First of all the pyramids looked very different when they were made then today, the two larger ones where covered in gleaming white limestone and the smaller one was covered in a shiny dense black stone.

Scientists KNOW they are tombs because each of the great pyramids had a funeral temple at their openings which were connected to a further away valley temple by a long boardwalk/causeway.

Not to mention Egyptian cosmology's role in their form. Their religion has a distinct emphasis on the afterlife, and what better way to get closer to the heavens then building a giant sky-scraping tomb for the king?
Their beliefs also had and effect on the shape of the pyramids. Ancient egyptians believed that they're gods sprouted from a mound of silt in the nile and then went on to create everything from their. The pyramids act as the same sort of thing; a mound like structure from which the pharoh can rise again from.

As for those shafts, best bets are they put them there for the pharoh and his slaves' (who were buried with him/her) souls to ascend out of the structure.

Swell metaron i didn know they had found out they had harmonic purpouses, and i think hawass wants the credit for a lot of the finds more than just trying to proclaim that the people of egypt built them, if that wasnt the fact he would be happy to have the help.

monkeyburd is right they were built resembling ritual tombs , but i dont think anyone has been found. the egyptians said there gods walked with the people, what if lower down under the pryamid were buried all these bodys of gods , with the wealth of egypt?

I read some where that even today we would be very hard pressed to do build a pyramid the size and shape from the same building materials.

What about those casino pyramids...?

Steel and glass, Not even close

We could easily build a pyramid now with the same building materials as them. And with our cranes we can do it in 2 years instead of 20+ years

~Thanato

With the same tolerances. The blocks of stone are so close together that you can not fit a knife blade between them.

Monkeyburd-
Your point about their fascination with the afterlife is correct, but you are making a statement about the "Pharonic" period in Egypt.

Wallis Budge, one of the pinnacle experts on Ancient Egypt, and was one of the first, if not the first to translate the Egyptian Book of the Dead, states that attempting to compare the early civilization of Egypt to the later societal structures of the Pharaohs was like comparing Great Britain to China. In other words, their fixation with the afterlife seems to have come much later in their culture.

I will take this one step further than Budge, and be so bold as to state that no one understands the culture that built those three pyramids, Even the most ancient of Pharaohs lays no claim as to building them, and they show up in inventory tablets as already being standing when that culture took power.

Those people spoke of a prior "Golden Age" which is where these monuments stemmed from.

Now, I will accept the fact that later cultures may have used them, or attempted to, later on as tombs. However, I find it highly arguable that tombs were the original intent of use. We do not understand the technology that this Golden Age possessed, nor do we have a grasp at what the sonic properties in building them really mean. Therefore, we can all state with some confidence that we may in turn not be able to understand their function.

the golden age was when the gods walked on the earth. was this culture just smarter becuase of there advansments in math and sicence, and thats what made them seem like gods?

what metatron said makes me think that eventhough no one has been found above ground, could there be mass graves under the pryamid of the gods before them?

OR is the golden age artafacts gettn mixed up with egyptianarta facts?

I think thats exactly what is happening Gabriel, that Golden age artifacts are getting mixed with Pharonic age ones. Even though archaeologists know the difference, certain Egyptologists (Zahi Hawass) though are not making the distinction clear for public opinion, or are distorting the facts for their own agenda.

From what I've read, there are vast complexes on the plateau that have never been exhumed for one reason or another. Your theory may one day prove correct. The Egyptian goverment is very hesitant to dig in these places. Makes you wonder what they are afraid will be discovered there?

personaly i think they know. they just found the vally of the golden mummys , or something like that where a lot of mummys were burried, why such a big grave site?

the artafacts have to be mixed up, and some of the monuments birth dates have to be wrong. half the tempals dont have the complexady that the pryamid have. even IF, IF the egyptans really built it , why didnt they keep useing the knolage they found, and y didnt a nother culture try to steal it , like greece. if u think a bout it , it would seem there was a decrease in useing the same metods that built the pryamid.
if i found out how to build a big building that wowed other cultures, y wouldnt they keep doing it to show everyone their suppieroty.

Sorry Metatron,you say that with complete trust in scientists. I respect them like doctors....practicioners of knowledge not masters.

I am sorry also Zeus, for not being clear. I thought i was displaying a complete mistrust in scientists. Please elaborate your argument.

I am accusing modern egyptology of steering public opinion away from evidence as to what may be the truth about Giza. If you think I may be giving them too much credit, then we may yet agree

Tru ....Tru

Science, by nature, is a slow beast. It is perpetuated an inpenetrable shell of logic. It isn't that scientists don't want to believe, or even don't believe that the pyramids have some vastly advanced purpouse, but they need emperical evidence, else their credibility circles the drain.

I'm not quite sure what exactly the pyramids were used for, but I do know there is a great amount of information that is still unknown to the public.

Using new technology "ground sonar" is the best way to put it, it is shown there is a tunnel that runs diagnally from the great pyramid and under the sphinx, as well as a few underground rooms. Is there perhaps more even deeper, perhaps a city waiting to be discovered, that's buried under the sand?

Or perhaps they pyramids are great power plants, and they learned how to harness wind energy in the form of sound energy - the note F sharp is perpertually made in the gallery. Sound energy would be a greatly stable energy, extremely more stable than atomic energy. Being that the pyramids are in the desert which is permeated with sandstorms, it is also a very practical method of energy harnessing.

It is correct that the king and queen's chambers were named by explorers of the pyramids for their shape rather than their contents.

I am under the impression that atlantians built, or at least aided in the construction of the pyramids.

Some say that the atlantians started as spirits and eventaully formed into corporal beings. Sounds almost like "Transporter" technology from star trek, eh?

Perhaps this planet was populated by an interglactic ark.

But I have digressed, and there is no returning to the begining so I will stop my ramble now.

I think vibrations definetly have something to due with all this unexplained stuff. I have seen it come up in alot of the occult. has anyone heard of the tibetan monks that can move large boulders by the vibrations the drums make and their chanting. Tibet monks know alot of stuff. Hitler was very interested in tibet and sent teams there to find and as much information as they could

Hitler, indeed, was an interesting fellow. Obsessed with astrology and the occult - he may have been on the brink of discovering some of the "Ancient's" knowledge. Sadly, though, he was a corrupt individual, and committed many atrocities. He would be an interesting person to study.

how come no one ever says "I want to see the egyptians build the sears tower."? bet they couldnt do it. hehe

Gabriel, I think you may have come up with a great idea. The fact that the King's chamber is constructed in the Phi measurements it stands to reason that if a sound is vibrated that is within the Phi range, lets say around 21 vibrations per second it seems that the overlapping of this vibration would enhance that sound.
The human brain has a frequency that operates on the Phi scale of eight and thirteen cycles per second. The Phi sequence is 1-2-3-5-8-13-21-34-55-89.......Just keep adding the last two numbers. Notice the (8-13) in the sequence. When a person is sleeping the frequency is (8) when the person is awake the frequency is (13). By adding 8+13=21. I wonder what would happen if we could raise our mental frequency to a higher Phi vibration? Maybe the resonating Phi vibration inside the Kings chamber would raise our mental frequency.That is all just a theory folks. But, if any one of you does manage to raise your mental frequency please post it as soon as you come back down!

The great pyramid actually perpetually makes the note F sharp.

Native Americans played this note on a flute to 'serenade mother earth'

Is there, perhaps, a connection?

In a scale, the dominant note is the 5th note of the major scale, which is also the 8th note of all 13 notes that comprise the octave. This provides an added instance of Fibonacci numbers in key musical relationships. Interestingly, 8/13 is .61538, which approximates phi. What's more, the typical three chord song in the key of A is made up of A, its Fibonacci & phi partner E, and D, to which A bears the same relationship as E does to A. This is analogous to the "A is to B as B is to C" basis for the golden section, or in this case "D is to A as A is to E."
"Note" the import of (8) and (13) "the human brain frequency." This direct relationship between the musical scale and the brain frequency may be the missing link between the great pyramid and man. The key F sharp would be the deciding factor.

Okay I dont really have time to read though all 4 pages, so I will just post this while I can. I dont really know what shafts you are talking about in the Egyptian Pyramids, I've never before heard of them. But if they are Vertical and Horizontal, rather than diagonal, it would make sense if they were used to direct light into the Pyramid, using mirror at a 45 degree angle.