many many galaxies each galaxy having countless solar systems in it, billions of suns all billions of years old..... for anyone to say we are the only ones in the universe are not only foolish about the subject they are completely crazy.

Human kind is only thousands of years old look what we have got computers, cars, flight ect we have gone to the moon and are already thinking about colonising space.

The universe is billions of years old.... what if a race started just a million years before us maybe even a billion maybe even 4 billion before us theirs got to be countless amounts of races out there so much more advanced than we are, if we have come this far in just thousands of years how advanced is a race going to be that started a billion years ago?

Its perfectly rational to believe that UFOs and aliens exist iv seen a UFO before and it was not just a light in the sky it was a disk that hovered over me and I was not the only one too see it there was another witness in the house that was next to me after about 20 to 30 seconds of what seemed like an eternity it rised up and shot of at unspeakable speed. Before anyone asks I was not abducted I also would never lie about anything paranormal im sure there are people that think i do lie and i dont blame them alot of stuff has happened to me.

As is seen there are cave paintings that cavemen did that shows beings with helmets on with craft hovering above them theirs also old Christian art work showing aliens in spacecrafts, some even believe that god is in fact of alien origin.

Ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs have pictures of space craft and even a helicopter…. below are some examples of ancient art and the ancients beliefs in aliens and of the gods.



Above Egyption hiroplanes.



Above Ancient statues on Easter island thought to be aliens.



Above ancient cave paintings





Above Christian art work with UFO'S in them.

Theirs a strong belief that the ancients had help constructing things like Stonehenge and the pyramids ect humans could never built such things with such accuracy in them times its hard even for today’s humans to build such things.

Its more than possible that we as a race of human beings are a race of aliens from another planet put here by a race from another planet to watch and observe and study us hence why theirs so many UFO sightings and abductions and tests carried out on human beings they are monitoring there subjects.

Another thing that was found in Baghdad is called the Baghdad battery it was a battery dug up that was proved to be thousands of years old its said that it was alien technology.

The evidence that beings from else where in the universe is overwhelming if you study it properly.

Remember the ancients had no reason to lie about seeing UFO'S they did not have a need to get on the front page of the local news papers or to apear on chat shows.

Many people think that UFO’s are mostly spotted in the USA but this is not true, Mexico has the highest number of UFO sightings Mexico city to be exact, Russia and America are about level when it comes to the amount of UFO sightings, china and Japan are next followed by the UK and Israel.

Its true that the American and British governments have been interested in UFOs and there technology for a long time now, the time travel experiments or Project rainbow where very interesting which ended up with disastrous results.

Nazi Germany where building flying disks which where said to be based on alien technology.... after world war 2 ended the same German responsible for building these flying disks was employed by the American air force to work on there projects into building a flying disk both the nazis and Americans where not hugely successful well not that they admitted anyway.

I believe many governments have covered up UFO cases there was a event in 1981 in The Rendlesham Forest case in England where a local U.S air force bases station there at the time, some U.S air men where doing a local petrol in the forest when they saw strange lights through the trees when they approached the trees the officers saw a strange hovering craft which landed and soon after strange beings got out of the craft and contact was have supposed to have been made in some way. This was supposed to have happened again on the following night. People might say well where’s all the proof for this well theirs loads of proof there is recorded CB transmissions which I have heard where the USAF are telling base camp exactly what they are seeing which you can download infomation from the following link.

The Rendlesham Forest case

The recording on the link is of officers investigating the UFO sighting the night after the first sighting when they are looking for evidence, the UFO returns which you can hear on the recording. It was witnessed by more than 30 officers over the 2 nights reports where written which soon disappeared but later resurfaced just a few years ago but 80% of the wording had been blacked out.

The following day the British police investigated the site they found huge burn marks on the ground where the U.S officers said the craft had landed, there where huge levels or radiation in there air. When the leading officer went back to America and wrote a book about what happened the U.S government revoked his passport and still to this day he’s not aloud it back.

Another thing that’s good to note is when this happened it was in the middle of the cold war and a huge amount of nuclear weapons where being stored at the air force base ready to fire on Russia.

A ufologist also asked Margaret Thatcher prime minister at the time 'what about all these UFO sightings?' the prime minister turned around and said you just cant tell the people.

The American governments also started there own projects into studying the UFO phenomenon in the 80s called project blue book which went on for a year or 2 but soon closed it saying that nothing was found.... but they had found loads of evidence because what they did was close project blue book and opened another project that was closed from the public eye.

Crop circles

I dont know for sure but if I was to guess I would say that 80 % of crop circles are faked by humans the other 20% I am at a lost to know exactly what they are.

There are many different opinions on what causes the circles that are so mathematically perfect that no human could create, especially over night. some of the ideas put forward for these amazing circles are. Small typhoons or tornadoes that swirl about and make the strange patterns you see. Another is electromagnetic energies that science does not quite yet understand that are some how causing the crops to act in a strange way. Another is that it is the gods them selves trying to communicate with man in order to warn us of our eventual demise if we continue to do what we are doing, such as all the wars and fundamental religions ect. Another idea is that it is the faerie folk or nature spirits communicating with humans. Theirs also reports that some people believe its the devils work, in medieval times the farmers would say that these strange circles where the work of Satan in order that he ruin there crops, and they where commonly known as devils holes or circles. Another idea is that its the effects of the moon, the moon affects the water on this planet which has got many people wondering if it can affect the crops also, this would also fit into the idea that the gods are trying to warn us being that the moon is believed to be by many pagans the moon goddess The ancient Egyptians lives where dominated by the success of there crops which may hold a connection with there goddess ISIS that was associated with the moon. Many UFO cults have come about where they focus on the Egyptian goddess ISIS, some might believe that crop circles are the results of the Egyptian spirits them selves communicating with us through something they most relied on in there times, there crops. And of course the most common idea of all is the UFO idea where its said that aliens are sending us messages in order that we dont destroy our planet in maybe the same way as they might have done to there own. And theirs also a idea that crop circles are in fact put there by aliens in order that they can navigate over the earth more easily like a alien map of the earth.

There was not to long ago a father and his son that came forward and said that they where responsible for the crop circle phenomena, and science strangely enough accepted this idea as valid, but when the two men where asked to reproduce these circles the end result was of a poor and just messy series of slap stick circles in the corn. These experiments done might have explained the 80% of man made crop circles, but did not in any way explain the other 20% of breath taking circles found now through out the world.

Its also good to add that in the 80% of unexplained crop circles there is something very odd found...... in the faked ones the crops has just been stomped over with wooden planks and all the crops stems had been broken and snapped but on the unexplained ones none of the crops where snapped all the stems where bent over as if they had grown that way over night, they had all been bent over vertically with out snapping. What’s also odd about the unexplained ones is there where high readings of radiation in some of the circles, and also more than not strange metallic shavings where found all over the base of the circles.

These kind of phenomena attract people from the new age from all over the world. many dowsers also use dowsing rods in the middle of these circles with bizarre results..... its also said that compasses go wild with in the crop circle.

Another report is that helicopters going to near to the circles will lose power for a few seconds putting the craft in danger, I saw this actually happen on tv when a bunch of scientists where investigating this idea, the scientists where at a loss to explain it.











Above are some of the circles that science can not explain, some of these circles are huge in diameter many take up most of the field.

You can also see some astonishing footage of supposed UFO’s making crop circles filmed in wiltshire by the farmer that owned the field...... to view this footage by clicking on the link below.

Crop Circle UFO footage

Many believe that Jesus was an alien, he did say something along the lines of 'he was not of this world' Its possible that all the great religious leaders where of alien origin, but who knows?.

Faeden

I agree that its most likely that theres life somewhere out there, but thats not proof.



Where'd you get that figure from?



And did you manage to see an alien piloting it through a porthole?



The cave paintings that clearly show beings with hemlets are very intriguing... but its not proof, again. We've got star wars. Maybe those are fictional characters they thought up... we dont know.

The ones with the craft hovering (the ones that I saw) are not detailed enough to be able to term as an actual craft... and the christian paintings show people on a crecent moon type images. Theres no proof here...



What do you really think the odds are of aliens developping a helicopter that looks like an Apache and bringing it to earth to show off?

Your interpretation of the hieroglyphs is that they represent space craft and helicopters... thats interpretation, they might have meant something completely different to them.



I can show you a pencil and there will be someone in the world that think it was made by aliens too.



No, it wasnt impossible... and there are records of how some were made and sleighs were even found.

You're right, it is possible.



Who said it was alien technology? The armchair archeologist? Theres no evidence that it has anything to do with aliens, and if it does, then theres something messed up with their tech. They have the tech to get to Earth but dont have the tech to build a good battery?



Such as what?



Theres always a reason to lie. Look at the ancient myths, for example.



That is a very interesting, and very far reaching subject actually. Nonetheless, the US created a flying saucer too. Ok, well, it didnt exactly fly like it was supposed to, it hovered, but still.



No... humans sure could create them if they put their minds to it. I keep forgetting the name of a certain crop circle... but it was one of the most detailed and perfect ones... it was made during a competition to see how detailed humans could make them.



Man has gone past stomping on the corn to make a crop circle. Theres other, less destructive ways of doing it that have been done. The radiation? That again doesnt prove that humans didnt do it, because humans sure can do it.

those egyptian hieroglyphs are fake




some of those stories are myths you know..... also fictional like Spawn

The Hierogllyphs are not fake but i saw an archeologist being interviewed about them and they are all actually Egyptian symbols for something...BUT in this image is out of context it is actually part of a statement about one of the pharoahs,that it is known what they mean....they just happen to look like helicopters and planes......also as has been said why would aliens have had apache helicopters and airplanes.......if it had been discs or something maybe !!!
Faededn you put a lot of work into that thread and fair play to you for that BUT each and everyone of your arguments (apart from the No of galaxies etc) has been shown not to constitute proof when further examined ....it just seems that way when its all lumped together.
Also the Easter island statues are also typical of tribal statues from that region of the world.....papua new guinea and places similar.The reason that life stopped abrubtly here is because the islanders just exhausted the supply of all living items there without replenishing anything by farming etc....the all died off or had to leave....a valuable lesson for all of us today.
Well done on the amount of work put in on your post though it was enjoyable reading.
Bogey

It would seem to me that if there was only a few pieces of evidence then we might be able to put it down as coincidence, But there is thousands and thousands of pieces of proof spread out over millions of years of this worlds time line. To close your mind to the possibility of life else where is a sad loss.


There are more stars out there than grains of sand on all of the beaches on this dust mote of a planet

The Rendleshom Forest "Bentwaters" Military base is an excellent example of a Military Colonel going on record describing the UFO's he saw. Colonel Charles Halt spoke in length on unsolved mysteries about this event. He said what he saw was obviously intelligently controlled craft. The object at one point landed and left tripod impressions in the ground. The colonel was in charge of a military base that stored nuclear weapons. I'm sure the skeptics would probably say he was just mistaken or stoned that night. He said the object at one point was only 30 feet away from him. There are many more valid reports such as this yet skeptics seem to dismiss any such reports as fabrications. Don't bother them with any data for their minds are made up!

WATERJET

Colonel Halt was not the only one to see it, The men under his command also saw and testified to seeing the something.

You are correct Zandore. There is another report which was probably the first night of the sightings when Colonel Halt was not present. Are you familiar with that one?

Waterjet

I think I seen it but at the moment it does not click. Both American and British forces seen it right?

Yeah in fairness the rendlesham forest ufo is an intriguing case and the soldiers involved seemed to be pretty convinced of what they saw.
There are a lot of spying devices out there though that are pretty weird looking......have a look on google on unmanned spy planes .
Not to say that this is what it was but it's possible.

When did this happen?

Hi all

Thank you all for your replies I have read them all with interest. I used to reply to harden sceptics, but soon realised there was no point as they will try and prove everything as fake no matter what you say, some people only have one agenda some as believers and some as sceptics, I on the other hand are open minded and am both a believer in these kind of things, and sceptical. The things in my above post are opinions and idea that many believe in. someone asked how is this proof? Allot of it is proof to me, and that’s all I am interested in. But allot of what I wrote are just ideas and opinions and are not necessarily what I believe as the gospel.

Hi Zandore

It supposedly happened on December 26th 1980

Thanks again.

All the best
Faeden

Back in the early 80's spy planes was not as advanced as they are now. It has been awhile since I read or heard about this siting so I do not remember specifics, was there any sound like a small helicopter? Remote piloted vehicles (RPV) engines internal and turbine make a distinctive sound and would have been known by the patrols (secured military base) during the event. Occurring in a forrest it would not have been room among the trees for a heavy RPV (12/26/80) to landed and left impressions in the frozen ground.

"Ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs have pictures of space craft and even a helicopter..."

I looked at the supposed true hieroglyph you showed. I have a a question:

What established, peer-reviewed respected source authenticates that image as being real? Obviously, the hieroglyph in question would be an important finding, thus would be well commented in professional journals.

Do you offer such evidence?

Hi pallidin

No I do not, but I have read about this in books and even seen it on the TV, I know that’s not evidence as things on TV and in books does not make it so, But the show I saw it on was a well respected one and I doubt they would have used it as evidence on there show if it was not genuine.

Sorry I cant be of anymore help, maybe someone else can help you.

All the best
Faeden

The essential problem with this approach is that it is an attempt to create a preponderance of evidence, however, the evidence is based not on a fact, but rather on an assumption, that being that the source of the evidence must be alien. This is why science always puts the evidence before the result; in order to avoid a biased interpretation. Each of these items, when viewed individually, are weak evidence of aliens. They cannot be viewed as a collective until we have confirmed that such a thing as aliens exist.



According to anthropologists, who study these things in depth, these 'helmets' are actually rays streaming from the head. This was a symbol of power, a very common one throughout the world, actually, being that the most powerful object the ancients could see was the sun. Comparing their most powerful warriors or heroes to the sun was simply a primitive metaphor.



Some think it is a helicopter, some think it is the Millennium Falcon, but for answers, we ask the Egyptologists. They confirm something that has been known to them for quite some time. Ancient Egyptians did not have White-Out. Sometimes, they had to recarve things, and no, changing out the entire support beam wasn't feasible. The Abados Hieroglyphs do not depict a helicopter; they depict an attempted re-write.

Abados Hieroglyph



No, they were thought to be the spirits of the ancestors, chiefs, and high-ranking males of the islands. At least, by the islanders who built them (my mother is Chilean. This isn't an unsolved mystery. This is high school Chilean history).



Before deciding what means what in renaissance artwork, one should ask students of this period. They will tell you that the artist of this era was nothing like the artist as we know it today. They were commissioned to paint a specific image, using a very specific language, in a very specific manner. The little pictures that UFO buffs like to terms spacecraft are actually various symbols used in these painting to indicate certain things. For instance, the star with a driver is the symbol of the sun moving through the heavens (It has a symbolic meaning as well, but it escapers me at the moment). These are not up for speculation. It is as distinct a language as calligraphy.



The ancients structures are vastly overestimated in terms of accuracy. We, on a daily basis, use greater accuracy in modern construction. The pyramid was indeed a marvel of it's age, but there are deviations in the shafts that indicate where the engineers messed up and need to re-calculate. The mathematics and organization involved in these projects is truly magnificent, but hardly beyond the scope of human ability.



It was two thousand years old. And it was distinctly low tech. The voltage produce by a modern version was barely enough to use for electroplating, and that only involves magnetically moving microscopic metal particles through a liquid medium. Considering how few were found, chances are good that the effect was discovered by accident, and never really found a use. Remember, we never found anything that resembled wiring.

They certainly did invent the battery, however, that doesn't mean they understood electricity. The Chinese invented gunpowder, but didn't understand the principles of combustion till much later. They didn't have to know what it was. They just knew it existed.

I am not really up to debating the whole human aspect, but just a few quick points:

You understand that certain crop circles can be attributed to humans due to their imperfection, but others cannot because they are too precise (again, the precision is far overrated). This, however, is a circular argument. People practicing crop circles will make bad ones, the 'experts' will proclaim them fake, until they get good enough to fool the experts (has been done many times), by doing something 'too precise to be human. It isn't too precise to be human. It is the inevitable result of practice.

I could go on point by point, but it would get tedious. Suffice it to say this: You are reading things from websites and not questioning them. You read that a crop circle has certain properties and you believe it. You read that a hieroglyph is a helicopter and you accept it. I encourage you, prior to deciding what you wish to believe in, to consult the people who have made it their life's work to investigate these things. If you want information about Egyptian writing, talk to an Egyptologist, not a UFO buff. Take advantage of the expertise, education, and experience these people have. Look at both sides of the argument, then make your decision. Don't accept little snippets here and there and decide there must be something beyond. 1000 cups of weak coffee will never add up to 1 cup of strong coffee.

The only proof of ufos is themselves, the occupants etc...
They will let us know when the time is right. To the world,
it will be a hostile experience.

Maybe that is why they have not made contact yet, WE are the hostile ones.

The Hieroglyphs are real...they have been on many tv shows.What is in question is what they represent.....unfortunately they all represent mundane words or sentences......it is coincidence that they look like helicopters and planes.....why would Aliens need helicopters and planes from an earth future ?
Dont you think that if they've come all the way from somewhere else they'd have some pretty nifty technology of their own...?
Unless John Titor went back and gave em a hand to build em.....could be !

Point well made..... i agree !

Of course UFO's exist. If it's unidentified it's a UFO. Whether ALIENS exist is another matter






I believe it.

The Rendlesham Forrest siting for example, A large craft was seen flying. It was not British, American or Russian, Whos was it and who was controlling it? As big as it was with our technology level it would have made a very loud noise landing or taking off. It is beyond our capability to make something like that then who did?

How do you know its not British American or Russian? Maybe it was Chinese? The US has about 30 years more advanced tech than the public has access too... maybe that tech was used in that craft.

The universe is estimated to be 14-15 billion years old

It seems that believers need only the flimsiest evidence to prove their belief. Some people just require more.

Dear Readers,

Take for example the Roswell story. Skeptics will have to conclude that everyone that confirmed through their individual testimony that an alien craft crashed in New Mexico in 1947 was mistaken or lying. I have the video of Jessie Marcell senior telling what he saw at the debris field and that it was clearly something not from this world. He was an old man at the time. I for one found him totally rational and believable. Same for his son and his story. Stanton Friedman interviewed General Dubose shortly before his death (on video in his home) and he conformed that the weather baloon story was a cover up to get the press off their backs. He was an old man but very lucid and aware and I believed what he said. If one studies the Roswell story it's pathetically obvious it was a real event and not a new project Mogel with test dummies as I believe the Air Force has last stated. What a joke that is. I agree they had to lie about it then for they didn't even know what they were dealing with.

Military people have gone on record with sightings and radar reports showing the flying saucers to be real objects. I find Edger Mitchell's statement regarding his belief that Roswell was a real event based on the people who he has spoken with about it to be very solid. He claimed the secret hasn't been kept and that the information has been leaking out for over fifty years. I agree with him.

One of the best cases is the Lonnie Zamora sighting in Soccoro New Mexico which left physical trace evidence and corroborating witnesses. J. Allen Hynek was left scratching his head as this Chief Government UFO Investigator could offer no explanation for the sighting, the tripod marks left by the craft, the burned area of brush or the footprints of the occupants Officer Lonnie Zamora said he saw climb into the craft before it took off.

Skeptics will always have to claim hoax when faced with such accounts for it is the only card they can play. As with any subject there are of course charlatans but to conclude that any and all sighting reports fall into that catagory is absurd. It's too bad Scott Peterson didn't have a jury of Skeptics for then he surely would have gotten off instead of going to death row. Garagos needed 12 Ericravens! For you see unless Ericraven saw Scott Peterson murder Lacy in his front yard he could never conclude from such a lack of physical evidence he was guilty of murder!

WATERJET

Maybe so but that was 24 years ago, Do we have (British, American, Russian, Chinese) now today that can land and take off in the middle of a forrest with little sound? If so why was such a fuss raised by it than, You would think the military would want to keep it secret.

Actually waterjet, all you have is circumstantial evidence, heresay, supposed documents, etc. Thats all you have for your belief. I need hard, verifiable evidence. By the way, I said nothing negative at all about you. So lay off me. I am just stating my opinion. You believe your way I believe mine.

Actually, probably not! Because the Rosswell incident is't just a story.
Its reality. If you can't accept it, then you are refusing to accept reality.
Maybe it is't in our history books, but it sure is documented!
The Rosswell incident has been prooven already, and just by saying
that the proof is false, is't going to disproove it. Read the stories,
find the evidence for yourself. I believe that something did land or crash
in R New Mexico because I read books, seen videos etc... And I find
them credible.

Something might have crashed there, but that does not mean it was extrateristal in nature.

Ericraven,

Testimony is not hearsay. It is what is given in a court of law by witnesses on the stand. I also sighted the Zamora case which included physical trace evidence and corroborating witnesses. This was verifiable physical evidence. You can read about this case the Air Force was unable to sweep under the rug. It's not a secret document. J. Alen Hynek himself admitted he could not offer any explanation to counter what officer Zamora claimed he witnessed. There are photos in books of the sight, burned ground and footprints. J. Allen Hynek visted the sight with Zamora and several other officers. It's interesting to note everything you sight as not being worthy of consideration as evidence is exactly what our court system uses and operates on. Interestingly, in previous posts when I pressed you for an answer to what constitutes hard verifiable evidence you said a UFO landing in your front yard. So you see, you are a type of skeptic that falls into the catagory of don't bother me with any data for consideration, as none of it would ever be valid to me for consideration ! My mind is made up. There is no proof other than a UFO landing in my front yard!

WATERJET

I need some sort of physical evidence. Example would be a piece of the Roswell craft. I want them to be real, but I need proof. It is kind of like believing in an afterlife, I don't believe in one , but I hope there is one.lol

Not to mention the fact they don’t even have to have started 4billion years before us. Humans went threw what’s called the dark age where science was outlawed and many scientific and many history records where lost. What if another civilization was to have bin born the same time as are but never went threw the dark age they would be thousands of years head of us.

There is a museum in Roswell about the crash there in 1947. Next time you are in that part of the country you should stop and see it.

Thats not enough for some people. Seeing is believing to them;
but blessed are those who do not see, yet believe. Ufos will be
seen in the future by the masses, and they will not seem friendly.

That will be the ultimate proof for everyone.

Yes, But I hope you are wrong on the not being friendly part.

It depends. How would this seem:
They take away every non-hypocritical christian off the face
of the planet. Its more than you think. Thousands, hundreds of thousands. Some of which may be our relatives, co workers, teachers, presidents etc.... With this act, these beings will seem hostile.
So, to contunue the fulfillment of prophecy, a man ruler will become
quite popular. He will declare war on these "evil ufos" but little does
he know that the ufos cannot be defeated. So, the anti-christ looses,
Jesus wins and the story is over. But is it just a story? Is that all it is?
I believe it is't a mere story.

Norman
You said before that God or Jesus rode/operated a ufo, Do you have references?

You probably don't understand. The Bible never mentions ufos. ever!
However, if we look carefully, it mentions flying objects that are identified. Lets say those flying objects showed up today.... they would
probably be unidentified. No? Perhaps. The caracteristics are strikingly
similar between ufos and what is described in the Bible. Just look at the
similarities. BTW: I wrote my refferences on the first page; but it seems someone
deleted it.

If UFO's and Aliens Are Friendly they wouldv'e already met us wouldn't they!

We don't know the reasons why they have't shown themselves to the
masses, public eye yet. It may or may not have anything to do with
the fact that they are hostile.

It could always be that "they" have not been here yet...

Right on Fluff!

All these thousands of years of flying around and perusing us... And still no "Hello humans" or "How are you humans doing"? And still no photographs of space aliens, handshakes with space aliens, or autographs from space aliens... Not even a simple space postcard!

What rude guests!

That the government will admit to yet. They have a good long track record for that.

A few hundred years compared to a little over three thousands isn't too much of a record.

If there are aliens then it only stands to reason that they think like aliens and have their own agenda and reasons.

I know that if you look at something long enough, you can see just about anything, especially if it's a series of blobs, dots, or a large group of vertical/horizontal lines, but if you were to take a look at the night sky when there's no city lights or clouds to get in your way, you will notice that ninety-eight percent of the crop circles can be found there. If not in the stars then in other things, such as the shape of the milky way or things of that nature. If they're faked, like many of them are, then i would say that they're probably made by people who not only have a very detailed imagination, but also have a keen interest in the astronomical sciences, since so many of them seem to either look like "constellations" (not necessarily ones recognized by the mythos of the ancients within our actual constellations), planetary, or galactic objects or events. If aliens were trying to contact us through them, then they might be giving us a kind of map to them or to our own galaxy. Either that or they're creating them simply as something used to jump up and down and say HI DOWN THERE, WE'RE WATCHING YOU! I wouldnt' consider it proof...but it is a possibility. As I said before with stars it's much like it is with the Bible, if you look hard enough for something, you're bound to find it and i'm pretty sure that's the case with the crop circles in the night sky, but i thought it was rather interesting nonetheless, and maybe some of you are budding astronomers and would love the opportunity to get out your telescopes and take a look.
Cat