LIGHT SEEKER
Jan 24 2005, 02:30 AM
Two thousand years ago, three men jointly wrote describing future events as follows:
"The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders, and in every sort of evil that is deceiving those who are perishing."
This is quoted from the second chapter of 2 Thessalonians - New Testament Bible, New International Version. Some readers would do well to read the whole chapter.
Stellar
Jan 24 2005, 02:36 AM
... so...?
LIGHT SEEKER
Jan 24 2005, 02:45 AM
I don't belong to a religion. I have justed point out ancient predictions that seem fulfilled in our time.
Stellar
Jan 24 2005, 02:49 AM
The sun will rise yet again.
Theres another prediction.
LIGHT SEEKER
Jan 24 2005, 03:05 AM
I didn't mean to get you people upset. I just thought it was an interesting prediction describing today's world. Such anaccurate prediction seems to me an "Unexplained Mystery."
aquatus1
Jan 24 2005, 03:15 AM
Well, the thing of it is that you have to explain why you think it is accurately describing today's world. It isn't quite as obvious as you believe it to be. Predictins and prophecies have a singular habit of being both vague and flexible, and this one seems to be much the same, i.e. a description that could be applied to pretty much anything.
For instance, try giving us examples of "counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders, and in every sort of evil that is deceiving those who are perishing". Particularly that last one, as I am not too sure what it is referring to.
No one is upset at you. They are just wondering where you are going with this.
zandore
Jan 25 2005, 02:42 PM
QUOTE(LIGHT SEEKER @ Jan 24 2005, 02:30 AM)
Two thousand years ago, three men jointly wrote describing future events as follows:
"The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders, and in every sort of evil that is deceiving those who are perishing."
This is quoted from the second chapter of 2 Thessalonians - New Testament Bible, New International Version. Some readers would do well to read the whole chapter.
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NIV is just one version of the Bible, Different translations can say different things.
Light Seeker.... Aquatus is right no one is up set with you. that is one of the things this forum is for getting other peoples ideas and opinions.
pete juffalo
Jan 25 2005, 05:22 PM
QUOTE(Stellar @ Jan 24 2005, 03:49 AM)
The sun will rise yet again.
Theres another prediction.
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your good!
do you have a tv show?
zandore
Jan 25 2005, 06:39 PM
QUOTE(pete juffalo @ Jan 25 2005, 05:22 PM)
QUOTE(Stellar @ Jan 24 2005, 03:49 AM)
The sun will rise yet again.
Theres another prediction.
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your good!
do you have a tv show?
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In other words a "prediction" can be worded in a general way, open to read in anyway that is wanted such as:
In the land of the East a great and terrible fire will rise and the people shall rejoice.In short the sun will rise yet again.
Thanato
Jan 25 2005, 07:18 PM
I HAVE A PREDICTION!! I HAVE A PREDICTION!!!!
Here go...
"A Great war will destroy the land, in which people will starve after."
SEE SEE A PREDICTION!!!!!
lol
Sorry couldnt resist
~Thanato
zandore
Jan 25 2005, 07:29 PM
You could be more right than you realize.
Otter
Jan 25 2005, 09:55 PM
There are many books and stories passed from mouth to mouth besides the Bible and Koran, which to me are two sides of one coin as they both were spawned from the writings of Jewish people and Moses the Egyptian.
As an example, according to the Hopi Indians of North America, the world has gone through many ages before. They say that a new world is born from seeds of the old one and that they can see the seeds of the new world age while living in the old one.
We should take our responsibility as guardians of the world we live in more seriously and protect our fellow citizens of this planet, by this I mean the many sentient beings we call animals. Even saying "animal" denotes that they are inferior and unimportant. We live together on the planet now and we are really disgusting in our self-imposed role as the dominant species.
We can't even control our own pollution because we put the environmental management in the hands of greedy materialistic corporate "bodies".
How can we expect to be treated any better than by our own standards by any superior alien intelligence, if they are out there or on our planet with us?
zandore
Jan 26 2005, 03:01 PM
QUOTE(Otter @ Jan 25 2005, 09:55 PM)
There are many books and stories passed from mouth to mouth besides the Bible and Koran, which to me are two sides of one coin as they both were spawned from the writings of Jewish people and Moses the Egyptian.
As an example, according to the Hopi Indians of North America, the world has gone through many ages before. They say that a new world is born from seeds of the old one and that they can see the seeds of the new world age while living in the old one.
We should take our responsibility as guardians of the world we live in more seriously and protect our fellow citizens of this planet, by this I mean the many sentient beings we call animals. Even saying "animal" denotes that they are inferior and unimportant. We live together on the planet now and we are really disgusting in our self-imposed role as the dominant species.
We can't even control our own pollution because we put the environmental management in the hands of greedy materialistic corporate "bodies".
How can we expect to be treated any better than by our own standards by any superior alien intelligence, if they are out there or on our planet with us?
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I have said similar but you said it better.
JackBauer
Jan 27 2005, 08:45 PM
Ive heard too many of those stupid "end of times" articles and books... funny thing is, whenever the date for the world to end comes by, they come up with some stupid excuse that the world didnt end on that date.... When the world ends, Ill know what when I disintigrate into a pile of ash as a gigantic shockwave from an A bomb kills us all...
Hotoke
Jan 27 2005, 08:50 PM
a long long time ago, in a galaxy far far away something bad happened
you may call me asstradamus
jjtss
Jan 29 2005, 02:04 AM
QUOTE(LIGHT SEEKER @ Jan 24 2005, 02:30 AM)
Two thousand years ago, three men jointly wrote describing future events as follows:
"The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders, and in every sort of evil that is deceiving those who are perishing."
This is quoted from the second chapter of 2 Thessalonians - New Testament Bible, New International Version. Some readers would do well to read the whole chapter.
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Wellllllllllll, I think that is an apt description of the invasion of Iraq. G. Brish is doing the work of

Satan by "liberating Iraq" with "shock and awe" missile strikes that are enhanced with depleted uranium that is causing all sorts of mysterious illnesses among the military and civilians alike.
Stellar
Jan 29 2005, 02:24 AM
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Wellllllllllll, I think that is an apt description of the invasion of Iraq. G. Brish is doing the work of mad.gif Satan by "liberating Iraq" with "shock and awe" missile strikes that are enhanced with depleted uranium that is causing all sorts of mysterious illnesses among the military and civilians alike.
Before you talk, you should really know what you're talking about.
Zeus
Jan 29 2005, 01:05 PM
What's wrong with it???
I predict that Elvis will give a return performance this summer/autumn in his home country and you can pm me for ticket sales if you like. Only thing is his rock and roll will he more heavy rock and brimstone. And the people shall rejoice the rieturn of the king.
Stellar
Jan 29 2005, 05:57 PM
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What's wrong with it???
1. Im quite sure missiles are not "enhanced" with depleted uranium... its tank armor and shells that are made out of DU.
2. DU is not dangerous if not injested.
zandore
Jan 29 2005, 06:30 PM
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1. Im quite sure missiles are not "enhanced" with depleted uranium... its tank armor and shells that are made out of DU
Correct. DU is I believe denser than lead and can penetrate tank armor better.
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2. DU is not dangerous if not injested.
Yes and no. It has low level radioactivity still. If left alone it should not pose a risk.
Stellar
Jan 30 2005, 04:20 PM
QUOTE(zandore @ Jan 29 2005, 06:30 PM)
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1. Im quite sure missiles are not "enhanced" with depleted uranium... its tank armor and shells that are made out of DU
Correct. DU is I believe denser than lead and can penetrate tank armor better.
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2. DU is not dangerous if not injested.
Yes and no. It has low level radioactivity still. If left alone it should not pose a risk.
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Yes, it has low radioactivity... but its not lethal. Its within the non dangerous limits.
zandore
Jan 30 2005, 06:14 PM
QUOTE(Stellar @ Jan 30 2005, 04:20 PM)
QUOTE(zandore @ Jan 29 2005, 06:30 PM)
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1. Im quite sure missiles are not "enhanced" with depleted uranium... its tank armor and shells that are made out of DU
Correct. DU is I believe denser than lead and can penetrate tank armor better.
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2. DU is not dangerous if not injested.
Yes and no. It has low level radioactivity still. If left alone it should not pose a risk.
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Yes, it has low radioactivity... but its not lethal. Its within the non dangerous limits.
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Will prolong exposer cause cancer? If so then it is still dangerous.
Stellar
Jan 31 2005, 02:14 AM
QUOTE(zandore @ Jan 30 2005, 06:14 PM)
QUOTE(Stellar @ Jan 30 2005, 04:20 PM)
QUOTE(zandore @ Jan 29 2005, 06:30 PM)
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1. Im quite sure missiles are not "enhanced" with depleted uranium... its tank armor and shells that are made out of DU
Correct. DU is I believe denser than lead and can penetrate tank armor better.
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2. DU is not dangerous if not injested.
Yes and no. It has low level radioactivity still. If left alone it should not pose a risk.
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Yes, it has low radioactivity... but its not lethal. Its within the non dangerous limits.
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Will prolong exposer cause cancer? If so then it is still dangerous.
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Its within non lethal amounts, so its not lethal. If you want to argue that its dangerous, then pretty much everything in the world is dangerous. Hell, me sitting infront of the computer monitor is dangerous.
sourpatchkid
Jan 31 2005, 04:31 AM
heres an accurate prediction for you:
Tomorrow the sun will come up, people will do stuff, some people will do good things, some will do bad things. This means the world will end at some time in the future.
Zeus
Jan 31 2005, 10:02 AM
I am a soldier fighting with radioactive wapons that wont kill me but will make me sick....No it doesnt make sense. Americans are not that stupid to put their lives in the hands of the govt knowing that the govt cares les for their safety...right???
zandore
Jan 31 2005, 02:19 PM
QUOTE(Zeus @ Jan 31 2005, 10:02 AM)
I am a soldier fighting with radioactive wapons that wont kill me but will make me sick....No it doesnt make sense. Americans are not that stupid to put their lives in the hands of the govt knowing that the govt cares les for their safety...right???
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We hope that is correct.
Stellar
Jan 31 2005, 04:27 PM
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I am a soldier fighting with radioactive wapons that wont kill me but will make me sick....
*sigh* It really isnt that harmful... Much less harmful than an RPG hitting your tank and actually penetrating the armour because the armour wasnt made out of DU.
Gmac1000
Jan 31 2005, 05:39 PM
If a missile was coming to hit me, then I couldn't care if it was, DU, or Lead, or even plexi glass, it's gonna hurt ya.
Missiles where created for one purpose and one purpose only, destruction.
He who fires wants to destroy.
Stellar
Jan 31 2005, 06:11 PM
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If a missile was coming to hit me, then I couldn't care if it was, DU, or Lead, or even plexi glass, it's gonna hurt ya.
Tell that to the tank crew that are still alive after recieving a hit from an RPG. Sure, it may rock the tank and make you hit your head, but with DU, you have less chances of getting killed or critically injured by an attack than with anything else. What you're doing is comparing bulletproof vests to flak jackets.
the master theologian
Jan 31 2005, 06:52 PM
II Thessalonians 2:9 "The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders..."
II Th 2:3-4 "Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God."
I do not see the connection between the Iraq war and the deception.
However, I can tell you what the true nature of the deception is
that will be seen in the end times.
1 Tim 6:10 "For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil,
for which some have strayed from the faith in their greediness,
and pierced themselves through with many sorrows."
Rev 13:16-17
"And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor,
free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in
their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he
that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number
of his name."
zandore
Jan 31 2005, 07:39 PM
QUOTE(Stellar @ Jan 31 2005, 06:11 PM)
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If a missile was coming to hit me, then I couldn't care if it was, DU, or Lead, or even plexi glass, it's gonna hurt ya.
Tell that to the tank crew that are still alive after recieving a hit from an RPG. Sure, it may rock the tank and make you hit your head, but with DU, you have less chances of getting killed or critically injured by an attack than with anything else. What you're doing is comparing bulletproof vests to flak jackets.
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With one son in the Gulf I say it is OK to use DU. WE THE PARENTS want ALL of our kids to come home.
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