I swear on everything that I hold dear that this is a true story!
I was living with my parents at the time in a township called Halfway, Sheffield UK, I was 21 or 22 and I was walking back from my local pub (may I add at this point that I wasn't drunk cos i had work the next day) with 2 of my mates, the shortest way home is through eckington cemetery, as we reached the top of the cemetery I had on overwhelming urge to challenge something to "show" its self, when nothing did, I decided to challenge Lucifer himself, when I came to my senses my mates had run off and about 1/2 hr had passed, nothing had "shown" itself so i continued the short walk home, 2 or 3 nights later, I was asleep and I could see myself laying in bed when I felt "something" hold me down with my right shoulder and whisper in a gruff sounding voice "you dont want to see me", now I was asleep and I could feel myself being held down in bed, at this point I started to struggle and fight back and this is when I woke up soaked through with sweat and shaking, it totally freaked me out and I was scared to ge back to sleep after that and for the next few nights, nothing remotely like this has happened since (im 26 in may) and I dont know if it was my sub-contious telling me not to be stupid or it was the man himself warning me, either way it totally freaked me out! has anybody else ever had an experience like this and like I said I swear that this is a true story!
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I find it odd that you would do this while your near your friends.(hence why they left probably) And to say you came back to your senses, do you mean you were hallucinating?
Anyways, i don't personally belive in the devil, but i do highly belive of agressive spirits, and for someone to yell out saying they want Lucifer to challenge them, basically means your saying "I have this key to my house, and im throwing it away." Meaning anything can enter your house now, and follow you, and be in your dreams.
The way i see it, is that you invited a ghost to scare you. The person probably died a horrible death as to why they had said something in that matter. But also dreams can be so real sometimes you start beliving it was, so maybe it was just a crazy dream.
I wan't to hear of more experiences though, as one just isen't enough to back up a story
lol
Anyways, i don't personally belive in the devil, but i do highly belive of agressive spirits, and for someone to yell out saying they want Lucifer to challenge them, basically means your saying "I have this key to my house, and im throwing it away." Meaning anything can enter your house now, and follow you, and be in your dreams.
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2 or 3 nights later, I was asleep and I could see myself laying in bed when I felt "something" hold me down with my right shoulder and whisper in a gruff sounding voice "you dont want to see me
The way i see it, is that you invited a ghost to scare you. The person probably died a horrible death as to why they had said something in that matter. But also dreams can be so real sometimes you start beliving it was, so maybe it was just a crazy dream.
I wan't to hear of more experiences though, as one just isen't enough to back up a story
lol
awesome experience, i am going to try that out
Dream/Nightmare triggered by what was on your mind at the time e.g. challenging Lucifer.
Being pressed down is a common feeling during sleep, as is hearing voices. It happens to me now and then during particularly vivid dreams and I wake up bewildered and convinced it was real for a minute or two. But it's not.
Being pressed down is a common feeling during sleep, as is hearing voices. It happens to me now and then during particularly vivid dreams and I wake up bewildered and convinced it was real for a minute or two. But it's not.
please explain your mates running away and your 30 minute state of unconciousness(sp?)
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at this point I started to struggle and fight back and this is when I woke up soaked through with sweat and shaking
Most likely the sweating and shaking were what caused the dream and 'sensation' not the other way around.
thats really funny joc,
you made me laugh i wish i could go through an experience not so much that it would scare me though just a little something so i know what i can believe and not what other people belive
you made me laugh i wish i could go through an experience not so much that it would scare me though just a little something so i know what i can believe and not what other people belive
QUOTE(Richdog @ Jan 26 2005, 01:08 PM)
Dream/Nightmare triggered by what was on your mind at the time e.g. challenging Lucifer.
Being pressed down is a common feeling during sleep, as is hearing voices. It happens to me now and then during particularly vivid dreams and I wake up bewildered and convinced it was real for a minute or two. But it's not.
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Being pressed down is a common feeling during sleep, as is hearing voices. It happens to me now and then during particularly vivid dreams and I wake up bewildered and convinced it was real for a minute or two. But it's not.
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I was gonna say that.................
Being a Pagan I do not believe in the Devil or Lucifer, but I do believe that you can manifest things with your mind and that you caused your shelf to have the dream/experience that you had.
I also agree with Blazea58 that you could have opened yourself up and invited a spirit in to your domain.
Some things are not meant to be fooled around with. As you make light of one thing like the Devil, Lucifer you could be invoking something else. Good spirits, bad spirits or manifestation of the mind.
My opinion of course.
Lordgalyan
I also agree with Blazea58 that you could have opened yourself up and invited a spirit in to your domain.
Some things are not meant to be fooled around with. As you make light of one thing like the Devil, Lucifer you could be invoking something else. Good spirits, bad spirits or manifestation of the mind.
My opinion of course.
Lordgalyan
[quote=cloud_surfer,Jan 26 2005, 12:48 PM]
I swear on everything that I hold dear that this is a true story!
(may I add at this point that I wasn't drunk cos i had work the next day) with 2 of my mates, the shortest way home is through eckington cemetery, as we reached the top of the cemetery
Makes me wonder who youd invite in if ye were pishd
Someone even more evil like Bernard Manning or someone !!!!! 
I swear on everything that I hold dear that this is a true story!
(may I add at this point that I wasn't drunk cos i had work the next day) with 2 of my mates, the shortest way home is through eckington cemetery, as we reached the top of the cemetery
Makes me wonder who youd invite in if ye were pishd
Someone even more evil like Bernard Manning or someone !!!!!
Thanks for the input people, some really good points put forward there and some funny ones too! but to explain my friends running away and me being unconscious, I think you've missed read what ive written, what I mean by coming to my senses....have you ever been doing something that your so into that nothing else around you seems relevant? i.e playing on a video game for hours on end etc etc, maybe thats a bad example, its kinda like having tunnel vision and I wasnt hallucinating either, that wouldve been more fun!! 
its only when i realised what i had been doing that i realised that my friends had gone, i have had more experiences pre and post to this one, not quite as bizarre, but pretty interesting all the same, but id like to hear if any other people have anything to put forward on this matter, once again thanks guys!!
p.s you should see some of the things that i have let into my house when i have been pis5ed!! my word! lol
its only when i realised what i had been doing that i realised that my friends had gone, i have had more experiences pre and post to this one, not quite as bizarre, but pretty interesting all the same, but id like to hear if any other people have anything to put forward on this matter, once again thanks guys!!p.s you should see some of the things that i have let into my house when i have been pis5ed!! my word! lol
QUOTE(Blazea58 @ Jan 26 2005, 01:03 PM)
I find it odd that you would do this while your near your friends.(hence why they left probably) And to say you came back to your senses, do you mean you were hallucinating?
Anyways, i don't personally belive in the devil, but i do highly belive of agressive spirits, and for someone to yell out saying they want Lucifer to challenge them, basically means your saying "I have this key to my house, and im throwing it away." Meaning anything can enter your house now, and follow you, and be in your dreams.
The way i see it, is that you invited a ghost to scare you. The person probably died a horrible death as to why they had said something in that matter. But also dreams can be so real sometimes you start believing it was, so maybe it was just a crazy dream.
I wan't to hear of more experiences though, as one just isen't enough to back up a story lol
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Anyways, i don't personally belive in the devil, but i do highly belive of agressive spirits, and for someone to yell out saying they want Lucifer to challenge them, basically means your saying "I have this key to my house, and im throwing it away." Meaning anything can enter your house now, and follow you, and be in your dreams.
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2 or 3 nights later, I was asleep and I could see myself laying in bed when I felt "something" hold me down with my right shoulder and whisper in a gruff sounding voice "you dont want to see me
The way i see it, is that you invited a ghost to scare you. The person probably died a horrible death as to why they had said something in that matter. But also dreams can be so real sometimes you start believing it was, so maybe it was just a crazy dream.
I wan't to hear of more experiences though, as one just isen't enough to back up a story
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well i would love to see a ghost, but not Satan ( i belive in God, so therefore i believe in the Devil as being evil)
Hi all
Even thought its obvious that theirs no such thing as the devil, unfortunately some people obviously do still believe in him, evil spirits on may occasions will call them selves "the devil" for terror effect, what better way to frighten the living than to say you are Satan, a perfect example of this is on a Ouija board. Think about it if you where an evil spirit dedicated to scaring people and you got though to the living world, because of teenagers playing with a Ouija board (or for any other reason) and you wanted to terrify them crapless who would you say you where when they asked your name ? I know id tell them I was the devil as people are terrified by the invention the devil. Evil spirits harm the living by using our own fears against us, most evil spirits cant do any other harm to us other than use our own fears against us, dont fear them and you take away there only weapon. Negative energies feed of our emotions especially our negative ones, such as fear anger hate and jealously ect. Dont give them the fuel they need to gain power.
All the best
Faeden
Even thought its obvious that theirs no such thing as the devil, unfortunately some people obviously do still believe in him, evil spirits on may occasions will call them selves "the devil" for terror effect, what better way to frighten the living than to say you are Satan, a perfect example of this is on a Ouija board. Think about it if you where an evil spirit dedicated to scaring people and you got though to the living world, because of teenagers playing with a Ouija board (or for any other reason) and you wanted to terrify them crapless who would you say you where when they asked your name ? I know id tell them I was the devil as people are terrified by the invention the devil. Evil spirits harm the living by using our own fears against us, most evil spirits cant do any other harm to us other than use our own fears against us, dont fear them and you take away there only weapon. Negative energies feed of our emotions especially our negative ones, such as fear anger hate and jealously ect. Dont give them the fuel they need to gain power.
All the best
Faeden
Well said.
I personally am of the opinion that you had a bad dream triggered by your subconscious. You brought the idea into your mind and our dreams happen in order to process and deal with each day we live. I've had strange dreams for a week after something traumatic happens in my life. It is how we deal. I think, perhaps, that it was your mind giving you some closer on it so to speak. Your mind created something being there so you would not keep waiting for something to happen.
Just my opinion.
New member black wanted to post the following, but hit the 'report this post' link by mistake;
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Let me tell you guys this. Yes the devil is real this is not santa clause. The
devil greatest trick for persuasion of his will was to convinse humans he does
not exist, and for some of you who said that the they believe in aggressive and
evil spirits your contradicting yourselfs. first off, he never said the spirit
say that he was the devil. he said you don't want to see me. the devil never
tells of who he is, the only demon that ever said that he was the devil was one
of the most powerful demons and his name is legion.
devil greatest trick for persuasion of his will was to convinse humans he does
not exist, and for some of you who said that the they believe in aggressive and
evil spirits your contradicting yourselfs. first off, he never said the spirit
say that he was the devil. he said you don't want to see me. the devil never
tells of who he is, the only demon that ever said that he was the devil was one
of the most powerful demons and his name is legion.
QUOTE(Richdog @ Jan 26 2005, 01:08 PM)
Dream/Nightmare triggered by what was on your mind at the time e.g. challenging Lucifer.
Being pressed down is a common feeling during sleep, as is hearing voices. It happens to me now and then during particularly vivid dreams and I wake up bewildered and convinced it was real for a minute or two. But it's not.
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Being pressed down is a common feeling during sleep, as is hearing voices. It happens to me now and then during particularly vivid dreams and I wake up bewildered and convinced it was real for a minute or two. But it's not.
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yes i was gonna say this as well. just last night i had the feeling of being pressed down while i went to sleep. i wasn't actually asleep, i was just about to fall asleep.
Have you asked your friends why they left you?
Did they feel anything at the time etc?
Did they feel anything at the time etc?
I accidently challenged satan once. I didn't even realise I did it until someone pointed out to me what I said before. Nothing good came of it, I tell you. Not a good idea to do this, to say the least. Anyhow, it might all have been coincidence as well and nothing to do with challenging the devil. Anyhow, I won't talk my experience for all to see. You can private message me, email or what have you, if you like to hear my story, which is insignificant anyhow. I never saw, hear or experienced anything paranormal regarding this anyhow. Just alot of coincidence.
yeah you should never challenge the devil
because he will accpet your challenge....
MU HAA HAA HAAA HAAAAAAA HAAA
*evil laugh*
because he will accpet your challenge....
MU HAA HAA HAAA HAAAAAAA HAAA
*evil laugh*
i doubt it is the devil himself that is actualy talking to you. its most likely all in your mind, when you heard "him" say that, you were dreaming and you thought about it so much that it actualy came into your head. trust me. i used to try it all the time when i was little 
I really don't know what to think about this.... all i know is it's never a good idea to challenge Lucifer
i know what to think of it. its total crap! theres nothing wrong with it because nothing will happen. if something like that happens, then its all ion your head. probably from a nightmare
Once again Muchos Gracias amigo's & Senioritta's for your opinions and it really what ive been wanting to hear a mixed opinion, but to be honest I dont think any of us will ever know what it was, hence the question "was it the man himself or my sub-contuious...."
but to answer a few questions my friends left because they we're freaked out about what i was doing, thinking about it now I remember one of my friends telling to stop and I never said it was lucifer who said "you dont want to see me" all I heard was a voice, it was lucifer whom I challenged to show himself in the graveyard, I just assumed it was him warning me!
Once again thanks people.
i do have other experiences aswell if youd like to hear about them, most I suppose could be rationalised, 1 or 2 couldnt and some could be put down to intoxication
but to answer a few questions my friends left because they we're freaked out about what i was doing, thinking about it now I remember one of my friends telling to stop and I never said it was lucifer who said "you dont want to see me" all I heard was a voice, it was lucifer whom I challenged to show himself in the graveyard, I just assumed it was him warning me!
Once again thanks people.
i do have other experiences aswell if youd like to hear about them, most I suppose could be rationalised, 1 or 2 couldnt and some could be put down to intoxication
QUOTE(cloud_surfer @ Jan 27 2005, 01:30 PM)
but to be honest I dont think any of us will ever know what it was, hence the question "was it the man himself or my sub-contuious...."
...it was lucifer whom I challenged to show himself in the graveyard, I just assumed it was him warning me!
...it was lucifer whom I challenged to show himself in the graveyard, I just assumed it was him warning me!
OK look at it this way... why would Lucifer the Dark Lord bother with a challenge issued by someone so microscopic, insignificant and as weak as you (or I or any normal person)? Even if by one bazillion to one chance you weren't fooling yourself, the chances of The Devil rousing Himself to respond to your (or my) call would be frankly ludicrous.
I'll tell you what, i'll challenge Satan every night for the next month and see if he answers me too huh?
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i do have other experiences aswell if youd like to hear about them, most I suppose could be rationalised, 1 or 2 couldnt and some could be put down to intoxication
Feel free to list your other experiences, but i'm betting ALL of them can be rationalised, as it sounds you have a very over-active imagination.
no...i think you were sick and that is why you friends left you. i am a great speaker....i challenge JFK to a debate....
I challenged Satan to a game of Scrabble once, I beat him. 
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I challenged Satan to a game of Scrabble once, I beat him.
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you know what??? i am calling upon elvis for a singing challenge. no, maybe god for a game of chess. whoever wins, gets to be the god.
Cloud Surfer,
Have you ever had any other experience such as this whilst you were sleeping/in bed?
The reason I ask is that this sounds to me very like sleep paralysis.
Sleep Paralysis is categaroised in two ways, The Hypnagogic State (just before falling asleep) and the Hypnopompic State (just before waking up).
Effects are an inability to move or speak, and may be accompanied with the feeling of a presence which often produces a strong sensation of fear/terror.
Many psychologists believe it may explain things such as alien abductions, ghosts/demons e.g succubus and incubus etc.
I wouldn't worry to much about it, whether it was a simple nightmare or sleep paralysis I doubt very much it was the devil.
Teddy.
Have you ever had any other experience such as this whilst you were sleeping/in bed?
The reason I ask is that this sounds to me very like sleep paralysis.
Sleep Paralysis is categaroised in two ways, The Hypnagogic State (just before falling asleep) and the Hypnopompic State (just before waking up).
Effects are an inability to move or speak, and may be accompanied with the feeling of a presence which often produces a strong sensation of fear/terror.
Many psychologists believe it may explain things such as alien abductions, ghosts/demons e.g succubus and incubus etc.
I wouldn't worry to much about it, whether it was a simple nightmare or sleep paralysis I doubt very much it was the devil.
Teddy.
Faeden,
Why do you think this is odd? Almost all acts of bravado are done in 'company'. I doubt very much Cloud Surfer would even have walked through a cemetary at night on his own let alone challenged the Devil.
If the Devil or evil/aggressive spirits for that matter actually existed and had all the 'powers' they're alleged to have, I dont think your front door would keep them out do you?
Theres more likelyhood it was a dream than some mythical entity, whether that be ghosts or the Devil.
Why would other experiences that bear no revelance to this story back it up?
Teddy.
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I find it odd that you would do this while your near your friends.(hence why they left probably) And to say you came back to your senses, do you mean you were hallucinating?
Why do you think this is odd? Almost all acts of bravado are done in 'company'. I doubt very much Cloud Surfer would even have walked through a cemetary at night on his own let alone challenged the Devil.
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Anyways, i don't personally belive in the devil, but i do highly belive of agressive spirits, and for someone to yell out saying they want Lucifer to challenge them, basically means your saying "I have this key to my house, and im throwing it away." Meaning anything can enter your house now, and follow you, and be in your dreams.
If the Devil or evil/aggressive spirits for that matter actually existed and had all the 'powers' they're alleged to have, I dont think your front door would keep them out do you?
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The way i see it, is that you invited a ghost to scare you. The person probably died a horrible death as to why they had said something in that matter. But also dreams can be so real sometimes you start believing it was, so maybe it was just a crazy dream.
Theres more likelyhood it was a dream than some mythical entity, whether that be ghosts or the Devil.
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I wan't to hear of more experiences though, as one just isn't enough to back up a story lol
lolWhy would other experiences that bear no revelance to this story back it up?
Teddy.
Black,
This is only a christian perspective, most people who don't believe in the Devil don't believe in God either. Christians believe in God and are therefore bound by their acceptence of a 'supreme being' to accept the Devil since it was God who created him.
First off, I don't see anywhere where anyone claimed that aggressive/evil spirits said they were the Devil, only that they thought it was more likely to be a spirit than the Devil.
Well I hope Lucifer gave him a right telling off for that, I mean, imagine how old Nick must have felt after Legion claimed to be the most powerful being next to God and a lowly carpenter tells him to possess a herd of swine and chuck himself in the sea to which he does without even a struggle? Not good for the image is it
Teddy.
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Let me tell you guys this. Yes the devil is real this is not santa clause. The
devil greatest trick for persuasion of his will was to convinse humans he does
not exist
devil greatest trick for persuasion of his will was to convinse humans he does
not exist
This is only a christian perspective, most people who don't believe in the Devil don't believe in God either. Christians believe in God and are therefore bound by their acceptence of a 'supreme being' to accept the Devil since it was God who created him.
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and for some of you who said that the they believe in aggressive and
evil spirits your contradicting yourselfs. first off, he never said the spirit
say that he was the devil. he said you don't want to see me.
evil spirits your contradicting yourselfs. first off, he never said the spirit
say that he was the devil. he said you don't want to see me.
First off, I don't see anywhere where anyone claimed that aggressive/evil spirits said they were the Devil, only that they thought it was more likely to be a spirit than the Devil.
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the devil never tells of who he is, the only demon that ever said that he was the devil was one of the most powerful demons and his name is legion.
Well I hope Lucifer gave him a right telling off for that, I mean, imagine how old Nick must have felt after Legion claimed to be the most powerful being next to God and a lowly carpenter tells him to possess a herd of swine and chuck himself in the sea to which he does without even a struggle? Not good for the image is it
Teddy.
Damn, Hammy's Teddy, that was beautiful, man, just beautiful. 
Awesome dream I bet u wish it will happen again. Try God 
The picture is mine and its dust particles
I bet u wish it will happen again. Try God The picture is mine and its dust particles
somthing like this happened to me once i was trying to get in touch with a ghost and then I felt hands on my shoulders pushing me into the wall
cloud_surfer, I would like to hear about your other experiences.
You guys are all crazy. I would NEVER challenge the DEVIL. I am WAY TOO CHICKEN for that! It really doesn't matter if I believe or not, I am not willing to take the chance...
You guys are all crazy. I would NEVER challenge the DEVIL. I am WAY TOO CHICKEN for that! It really doesn't matter if I believe or not, I am not willing to take the chance...
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Awesome dream I bet u wish it will happen again. Try God
The picture is mine and its dust particles
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I bet u wish it will happen again. Try God The picture is mine and its dust particles
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How do you tell the difference between dust particles and ORBs (If ORBs are real.)
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How do you tell the difference between dust particles and ORBs (If ORBs are real.)
From what i know dust particles are just a solid shape usually, and dont have much to it other then its a round sphere. Water being anywhere can contribute alot, as when you take a picture with a flash, it will reflect and make dots all over the place such as the picture posted above which is clearly a combination of dust and/or water.
An orb on the other hand has alot of characteristics which are easy to identify. Usually an orb picture from what i have seen has lots of circles that makes it up, which is almost similar to when you chop a tree down, and look at the stump to see its age. Orbs in this matter have the same distinct pattern on them, and are usually not pure white, and more of a variety of colors like blue green red etc.
I still have yet to belive orbs are really ghosts, but its still interesting none the less.
I understand you and your experience. I had things of this nature happen to me as well, although not the devil. It would be very arrogant of us to think that we are the only force roaming about. The best thing for you to do is face your fear head on for what it is and try not to dwell on the negative aspect of it.
I completely agree that in most cases you're not challenging who you aim to challenge, but rather a bad spirit or good or something totally different. A good, true story that I experienced supports that. I was in a cemetery with my cousin and because my cousin wanted to keep me in line, told me scary makeup stories explaining what happens if you misbehave. One of those was if you walk ontop of a headstone of a person, the inhabitant of that grave will massage and paralyse your legs on that same night. I challenged it, and the next morning when my Aunt and cousins went to the beach, I couldn't because I was numbing in pain.
Moral of story: If you're going to challenge something, be mentally prepared, because it's going to be your (sub,x)conscious versing your physical body.
Moral of story: If you're going to challenge something, be mentally prepared, because it's going to be your (sub,x)conscious versing your physical body.
Sounds a little bit odd to me I would go to a doctor if I were you for challenging evil like that you gotta be crazy. 
QUOTE(cloud_surfer @ Jan 26 2005, 05:48 AM)
I swear on everything that I hold dear that this is a true story!
I was living with my parents at the time in a township called Halfway, Sheffield UK, I was 21 or 22 and I was walking back from my local pub (may I add at this point that I wasn't drunk cos i had work the next day) with 2 of my mates, the shortest way home is through eckington cemetery, as we reached the top of the cemetery I had on overwhelming urge to challenge something to "show" its self, when nothing did, I decided to challenge Lucifer himself, when I came to my senses my mates had run off and about 1/2 hr had passed, nothing had "shown" itself so i continued the short walk home, 2 or 3 nights later, I was asleep and I could see myself laying in bed when I felt "something" hold me down with my right shoulder and whisper in a gruff sounding voice "you dont want to see me", now I was asleep and I could feel myself being held down in bed, at this point I started to struggle and fight back and this is when I woke up soaked through with sweat and shaking, it totally freaked me out and I was scared to ge back to sleep after that and for the next few nights, nothing remotely like this has happened since (im 26 in may) and I dont know if it was my sub-contious telling me not to be stupid or it was the man himself warning me, either way it totally freaked me out! has anybody else ever had an experience like this and like I said I swear that this is a true story!
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I was living with my parents at the time in a township called Halfway, Sheffield UK, I was 21 or 22 and I was walking back from my local pub (may I add at this point that I wasn't drunk cos i had work the next day) with 2 of my mates, the shortest way home is through eckington cemetery, as we reached the top of the cemetery I had on overwhelming urge to challenge something to "show" its self, when nothing did, I decided to challenge Lucifer himself, when I came to my senses my mates had run off and about 1/2 hr had passed, nothing had "shown" itself so i continued the short walk home, 2 or 3 nights later, I was asleep and I could see myself laying in bed when I felt "something" hold me down with my right shoulder and whisper in a gruff sounding voice "you dont want to see me", now I was asleep and I could feel myself being held down in bed, at this point I started to struggle and fight back and this is when I woke up soaked through with sweat and shaking, it totally freaked me out and I was scared to ge back to sleep after that and for the next few nights, nothing remotely like this has happened since (im 26 in may) and I dont know if it was my sub-contious telling me not to be stupid or it was the man himself warning me, either way it totally freaked me out! has anybody else ever had an experience like this and like I said I swear that this is a true story!
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Interesting story
It can be very confusing to set apart from real Orbs and particles. The picture that I attached is a bridge over the saskatchewan river. It was last fall while I was walking home at 330 am. The ratio of accidents is moderate on the bridge. I rem one day, when I was 17. My mother and I seen this cattle trailer and a combine turned over. There were poor, petrified, and bleeding cows that were walking and running around. Some of the cows were dismembered bec the combine had a large auger with full width fingers. I got out to take a closer look since traffic was stopped by the RCMP. As I got closer to the scene, I seen this RCMP officer carrying a rifle from his cruiser and he shot the most injured ones..it was horrible and fascinating at the same time. There is another story about this bridge that involves U.F.O's. I will post that later in the other category. As for the orbs in the picture. Imagine that you are sitting in your kitchen and looking out the window and its very bright. U will see li'l filaments floating around. In the picture I was on a highway with new paving. The light from the flash caught dust in the air. Real orbs move about in videos and u have to be there to feel the coldness. As for the devil, I would like to challenge him/her and ask about the way universe works .
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pri how long did it take u to write that
I really don't how long precisely,but it wasn't too long..about 8-10 mins? Why?
Hi cloud surfer!
Maybe the ghost wasn't necessarily malevolent but just teaching you a lesson you'll never forget. They may have done you a favour - I mean, you'd never do it again, would you?? If I was a spirit and I saw some kid doing that, I don't think I could help but take the p*ss a bit, either LOL
Seriously, though, I think anyone who wants to follow your example is being very silly. Nasty, manipulative people die right along with the good ones - and sometimes look for opportunities to mess with somebody who is filled with just the right amount of fear and self-doubt to give them a foothold in your consciousness. I learned this the hard way, too, so it's the voice of experience, not just an opinion!
I'd be interested to hear some of your other experiences.
Cheers!
Maybe the ghost wasn't necessarily malevolent but just teaching you a lesson you'll never forget. They may have done you a favour - I mean, you'd never do it again, would you?? If I was a spirit and I saw some kid doing that, I don't think I could help but take the p*ss a bit, either LOL
Seriously, though, I think anyone who wants to follow your example is being very silly. Nasty, manipulative people die right along with the good ones - and sometimes look for opportunities to mess with somebody who is filled with just the right amount of fear and self-doubt to give them a foothold in your consciousness. I learned this the hard way, too, so it's the voice of experience, not just an opinion!
I'd be interested to hear some of your other experiences.
Cheers!
Let me tell you guys this. Yes the devil is real this is not santa clause. The
devil greatest trick for persuasion of his will was to convince humans he does
not exist, and for some of you who said that the they believe in aggressive and
evil spirits your contradicting yourselfs. first off, he never said the spirit
say that he was the devil. he said you don't want to see me. the devil never
tells of who he is, the only demon that ever said that he was the devil was one
of the most powerful demons and his name is legion.
devil greatest trick for persuasion of his will was to convince humans he does
not exist, and for some of you who said that the they believe in aggressive and
evil spirits your contradicting yourselfs. first off, he never said the spirit
say that he was the devil. he said you don't want to see me. the devil never
tells of who he is, the only demon that ever said that he was the devil was one
of the most powerful demons and his name is legion.
I've "challenged" the devil before. I think everyone here knows the story about my crazy pentecostal aunt who made me watch movies about the apocalypse and the rapture. Anyway, when she was trying to convince me that I needed to accept Jesus into my heart, she also told me all of this mumbo-jumbo about how the devil can't attack you unless you call out to him or invite him into your mind. So, I used to ask "the devil" to come into to my mind all the time or I'd say that I'd sell my soul to him. Now, I'm an atheist, so I never really believed in any of the stuff I was saying. And...lo and behold...nothing ever happened. I remain devil-free. It's all in the power of the human mind, folks. If you sincerely believe in demons or evil spirits, your mind is going to trick you into seeing or experiencing things when you're spooked. If you can conquer your fears of evil spirits or creatures and convince yourself that they're not real and that they can't harm you, you'll be fine. I used to be deathly afraid of ghosts. I had never seen one, but I was really scared that if I ever did they would try to kill me or possess me. I started telling myself that no spirit could harm me and that there were no evil demons out to get me. It took a while, but now I'm firm in my belief and I'm never scared when I'm alone in the dark or in a creepy house. Well...scratch that...I'm scared, but of ax murderers, not ghosts...
It's all in the power of the human mind, folks. If you sincerely believe in demons or evil spirits, your mind is going to trick you into seeing or experiencing things when you're spooked. If you can conquer your fears of evil spirits or creatures and convince yourself that they're not real and that they can't harm you, you'll be fine. I used to be deathly afraid of ghosts. I had never seen one, but I was really scared that if I ever did they would try to kill me or possess me. I started telling myself that no spirit could harm me and that there were no evil demons out to get me. It took a while, but now I'm firm in my belief and I'm never scared when I'm alone in the dark or in a creepy house. Well...scratch that...I'm scared, but of ax murderers, not ghosts...
QUOTE(Wings of Selkhet @ Feb 1 2005, 09:03 AM)
I've "challenged" the devil before. I think everyone here knows the story about my crazy pentecostal aunt who made me watch movies about the apocalypse and the rapture. Anyway, when she was trying to convince me that I needed to accept Jesus into my heart, she also told me all of this mumbo-jumbo about how the devil can't attack you unless you call out to him or invite him into your mind. So, I used to ask "the devil" to come into to my mind all the time or I'd say that I'd sell my soul to him. Now, I'm an atheist, so I never really believed in any of the stuff I was saying. And...lo and behold...nothing ever happened. I remain devil-free. It's all in the power of the human mind, folks. If you sincerely believe in demons or evil spirits, your mind is going to trick you into seeing or experiencing things when you're spooked. If you can conquer your fears of evil spirits or creatures and convince yourself that they're not real and that they can't harm you, you'll be fine. I used to be deathly afraid of ghosts. I had never seen one, but I was really scared that if I ever did they would try to kill me or possess me. I started telling myself that no spirit could harm me and that there were no evil demons out to get me. It took a while, but now I'm firm in my belief and I'm never scared when I'm alone in the dark or in a creepy house. Well...scratch that...I'm scared, but of ax murderers, not ghosts...
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It's all in the power of the human mind, folks. If you sincerely believe in demons or evil spirits, your mind is going to trick you into seeing or experiencing things when you're spooked. If you can conquer your fears of evil spirits or creatures and convince yourself that they're not real and that they can't harm you, you'll be fine. I used to be deathly afraid of ghosts. I had never seen one, but I was really scared that if I ever did they would try to kill me or possess me. I started telling myself that no spirit could harm me and that there were no evil demons out to get me. It took a while, but now I'm firm in my belief and I'm never scared when I'm alone in the dark or in a creepy house. Well...scratch that...I'm scared, but of ax murderers, not ghosts...[right][snapback]471681[/snapback][/right]
It is my opinion that the devil does not have to bother with you. You have already turned your back on GOD. Your soul already belongs to him...
Thanks.
I challenged him to a fiddle match once. Of course, since I'm not Charlie Daniels, he kicked my butt. 
Hmm..My friend once challenged the devil when we used the oujia board...the ghost claimed to be the devil himself so my friend said " If your the devil then do something to prove it"..immediatly after he said that, the lights shut off, then back on, then off again...and we just sat there not saying a word until the lights turned on again about a minute later..very freaky stuff..not that turning the lights off proves its the devil..still pretty scary though 
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