What do you think of the Key of Solomon and Lesser key of Solomon(The Goetia)?
And were these books of magic really written by king solomon?
They say these books have power to unlock many secrets.
And invocations to summon the Geotic Demons.

I have a friend who does cerimonial magic and uses these books.
he says the power in them really works.

What do you think of these myserious books?
Are they really from King Solomon...?
Did he REALLY get the knowledge of controling
spirits from God? or was it the devil?

And why is Solomon in the bible but yet he wrote his own secret books... showing us how to summon and release demons... if he served god..?

I;ve been reading these books latly they are very interesting....

Let me know what you think of these books....
and if you have ever read them...

wow no one has heard of these old magic books
written by King Solomon?

never heard of it and a google search did not help much

here's a link to some info on the book
http://www.sacred-texts.com/grim/kos/

I thought more people would have heard of this.

Not if it's BS. Any well-known thing that had any credibility would have a fair few hits on Google. Not true IMO. At all.

-I think they include ceremonial magic rites that are old and have been attributed to king Solomon, but that's going back a long way to determine its factuality.

-No idea. My guess is not directly from his hand, but one never knows.

-He was supposed to have received this knowledge from angels, some of which we know fell out of grace with god. So angels/devils = impossible to differentiate in this way.

-He supposedly took this secret knowledge from demons/devils he bound to servitude (as implied in the Lesser Key, anyway). I cannot say that he was serving God in this act, but he was a servant of God. No man is perfect.

Shigeru Finally someone knows whats going on here!
Yeah that is exactly what i;ve heard about these books.
My friend is into cerimonial magic....
He has summoned some of the Geotic Demons...
but i wouldn't expect anyone here to understand
or believe that.. since they are so closed minded...

And the reason its not easy to find on Google
is because these are secret books...
but not anymore.. you can even buy them online
and in most Book Stores....

Google doesn;t have info on EVERYTHING...
and it can be found on google...

just because it;s not easy to find on google..
does not make it BS....its not well known
becuase its SECRET knowledge...but never mind...

Hi

The religion of Thelema is partly based on these books, they are written with many Kabbalah teachings, both books have very close links to Jewish mysticism.

College of Thelema

The Geotia

All the best
Faeden

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maybe because magic is donkeycrap? just a thought

hmm never really heard of these books befroe, how did your friend get his hands on them?

I bought my copy of Key of Solomon the King at a local bookstore in Indiana. It was published by...umm...*goes to look* Sam Weiser, Inc. Somewhere in Maine.

I, for one, learned of these book swhen studying Kabbalah and the Golden Dawn.

Woah, woah.

Firstly, I do not doubt the existance of these books - otherwordly powers and summoning creatures from other planes.

Demons - or so they are called - are a force to be reckoned with.

You said your friend practices ritualistic magick. He must be extremely disciplined to summon a creature from another plane of existance - and he must be very strong.

If anyone attempts summoning, I SERIOUSLY suggest delving into the mystical world more thoroughly, since summoning is very difficult, and very dangerous.

I doubt these beings are "demons" since humans inherently have xenophobia if you will of anything they do not know of, they beleive is evil. Nonetheless, exercise extreme caution when trying to summon an otherworldly being. A proper circle must be cast by one sufficent in the containment of astral creatures (or whatever plane they are from.

I would like a discription of them, it would be very interesting.

I never heard of it but is sounds interesting...

I know much about the lesser and higher Key of Solomon/Goetia. The books are from early medieval times, it is NOT written by Solomon, but the sources from which everything is compiled are quite old. Solomon was indeed a warlock in old age(The star of David was actually Solomon's and it represented the cult of Baal), but because he became a pagan (yes-Solomon was an apostate. God forgave him though). The Golden Dawn and Aleister Crowley are a complete fraud, but many important men belonged to it (ie: Yeats). The main idea behind the devil summonings in the Key of Solomon is that the seal of the summoned entity can be used as a form of control. This belief stem's from the fact that God has never fully revealed his name, but rather has given several with distinct qualities. The story goes that Solomon managed to summon one demon through his knowledge, and that he kept asking for sigils before releasing them. This way he summoned all the principalities of the power of darkness. Most of the entities in the Goetia are ancient Sumerian/Babylonic pagan Gods reduced to demons. This isn't inconsistent with the ancient Hebrew belief (codified in law by Moses later on) that behind every idol lies a dark power. The key of Solomon is no big deal if you ask me- anybody over the age of 5 can set up those pentagrams, scribble the sigils, burn the incense and see for themselves that it's all fake. Just a nasty mishmash of paganism intermingled with medieval kabbalistic lore and legend.

I think the Goetia contains a breif description on each of the demons he summoned to help him build his temple. the book shows each of the demons symbols, and various conjurations. etc
there are five books that make up the key:

Goetia
Theurgia Goetia
Ars Paulina
Ars Almadel
Ars Notoria

this link should help: Lesser Key of Solomon

Funny you should bring this up as my mother keeps bugging me to buy this book lol. I've read it though, and from past experience with 'the Circle' those two words are not what I want to find in a book. The Greater and lesser keys of Solomon are black magic, involving the conjuring up of demons (Nephillim, that is very much explianed in depth in the actual full account esxcluded text of the Testament of Solomon which is what coul be calld 'white magic' using certain things/valling Holy angels to thwart and RID oneself of such demons from the sky who cause these atrocities) under you command and will. It seems Solomon, who was given power over demons by a Holy angel through a ring, did in fact write these books, but I'd say this came after the 'white magic' one, where he himself seemed almost enslaved by them.



It most certainly did not. The Star of David, the six pointed star which I wear is a counter to the 'evil eye', and is also representative of the Tetragrammaton - the THRONE OF GOD - which is the same shape but 3D in all directions.

The 'evil eye', in case you're wondering can be found here:



Both the Heavens and the hells reside in space.

Maybe the books are descriptions of the science behind Solomon's feats. Nothing magical with what we know today but it would read like magic back then.

These books are a very good read. I myself prefer other grimoires but thier still good books.

It was the aliens! Haha, jkjk.

I don't actually know much about 'the key of solomon'
So you're saying that Solomon used these books to control demons, but that that must be wrong, because Solomon is a servant of God (or he is in the Bible, anyway)

Maybe it was a different Solomon... it is a quite common name. Or perhaps one of these 'Solomons' is a mere myth; they cannot be the same person.

It sounds intriguing... keep puzzling!

I've heard of these books, but haven't read them. There are many places online that speak of them, so I don't know why google wouldn't come up with anything.

Here is a link, I'll try to find more:
www.esotericarchives.com/esoteric.htm

If you're interested, there is a good fictional book by Jonathan Stroud called
"The Amulet of Samarkand", which is the first in "The Bartimeus Trilogy", Bartimeus being a "djinn", (they don't like the word demon) who is summoned by a young magician to help him thwart some enemies. It's written from the djinn's point of view, and is filled with footnotes about their interaction with man.

Here's a link to that authors site:

www.bartimaeustrilogy.com/

I don't understand why no one can find this on google. I had little to no trouble in locating these texts online. This could be good in my opinion though, because the occult is not meant for all to share. I don't think everyone is meant to understand it.

I have read the Greater Key of Solomon, although I have not envoked anything using the practice. I would give great thought and caution to even starting. In the book it describes some pretty intimidating creatures, but also it is very specific about days and times to do every tiny ritual and that not adhering to the astrological/earth system it contains could render the ritual ineffective or adverse anyway. I think it would take a VERY devoted person to adhere to all the rules and to maintain a purity in soul and body too. I'm a curious person, but frankly, to be honest, I know how important those rules are, and I don't have the TIME to get so specific. I do believe in the spirits and that they can be summoned with the sigils. At one time I brought something forth before reading the Greater Key, and it was foolish naive thinking that I could control something so...intense? I think I am fortunate that the spirit that came forth was/is still a good being. You will note that the Greater Key mentions prayers to God in his truer name in Hebrew in all rituals, so maybe it isn't so evil. I don't know. All I know is that I asked permission and the blessing of God to bring forth the entity. However, before doing all that, you might want to read up on how to make them go bye bye too, otherwise you might be jumping from the frying pan directly into a fire you can't contain. Spirits, and demons can be extremely dangerous. There are good spirits and bad, and you will know which is which when you encounter them. Anyway, just some thoughts to ponder.

Conjuring demons sounds dangerous. why would anyone want to?

I think the idea of the Gotia is brilliant. It may not necessarily work, but then again many do not believe that spirits exist, and some who are athiests do not believe in God. It is a simple thing that people have different views, so perhaps those who truely believe this will work, would be able to see something- whether it is the mind creating a fictional object, or a real one, is to be proved.

It is the same as all science, but I do believe with the many stories I have read over the internet and different forums and search sites, that perhaps there is a possibility it could be true.

I used to study the occult, and the Key Of Solomon was one of the more interesting subjects for me (obviously it involves getting what you want in life, thus the selfish interest). Yet, tonight, which is why very much I am online, I dreamed of it. Now, I stopped two to three years ago reading about these books, so how come it comes up now? Yet I believe in my dream the demon I summoned for help- Baal- (and I have no reason or recognition of why he looked like this) had three heads. I cannot remember much of his looks, merely that he is sneaky and kept edging towards me, and for in my dream I had not his sign or a proper circle cast, he was free to move.

The dream is long and complicated, but I remember the sneak said he would grant two things that I had asked, before he turned on me.

Now why would I dream of something that I had not thought of in years, and why did he come in the image of whatever it was (I believe lizard/dragon typed heads?), when I do not recall the book saying he does?

Well, back to the subject, you can find the Gotia almost anywhere on the internet, including the PDF Files.

And it likely does work for some, who believe in it with their whole, set it out perfectly, yada yada.

It is just simply a matter of faith.

Solomon was called "wise" for a reason you know. He was "just" because he ruled well, but he knew bucket loads of stuff.

Simple question: Would God have entrusted the Ark of the Covenant to someone who had any connection with the Devil?
Nope.
Therefore Solomon's knowledge wasn't satanic in origin.


Because the purpose to which he turned those daemons was God's work.
To followers of the Abrahamic religions, everything that is, is a result of God's work. Somethings have been perverted by man, others teh Devil.
But all is "of God's hand", if you get my drift.
So logically there is no "magic is bad, man" in that light. It is like any power, the ends justify the name, not the means.

These mystical books were written as means of keeping intellectually stunted people preoccupied with meaningless "arcane knowledge," and to waste their time on useless rituals trying to summon and control non-existent spiritual beings. So, in that sense, the books are good. The more intellectually stunted people who are tied up wasting their time, the better off the world is.

Lesser Key of Solomon...I clicked on that link and found it very interesting..August is my birthday
and last August I had 3 visitors...they were in a triangle with some kind of writing on it...awesome looking
triangles if I must say...one of the triangles had a black mist spirit..and the other 2 were just faces...
immediately I said If you are not of God get back..as soon as I said God they moved back...I commanded them
to leave..but guess they thought they could hang around till they decided to leave....I turned over and went
to sleep...when I woke up they were gone and have not seen those particular spirits again...
a lilpeppers experience.. believe it or not....

A couple of things.
(1) This is the "ancient mysteries" part of the forum, not the ghosts/paranomal section.
(2) the "..." isn't a comma, or a full stop. It's normally used as a shorthand of saying "I edited stuff out for brevity's sake" in formal essay style writing.
(3) Different name, same style. Are you the bloke with the talking rocks?

Thank you....I know where to place this now....you have been much help......

You guys can find a little different but similar info if you google Prophet Suleman.

If memory serves Suleman and Solomon are the same bloke.

Grimoire's are very interesting books. Is the information in them true? Who knows?
They are books about magic basically, so I guess it depends on whether the person reading them believes that magic is real, or just an illusion.
Here's a brief listing of some Grimoire's, you'll notice that the Key of Solomon is one of the more recent, I think it owes it's popularity to Alistair Crowley, he seems to have had a hand in translating the English versions, but I could be wrong.

Hermetic Era - 332 B.C.E to 500 C.E.
Egyptian Book of the Dead
Papyrus of Abaris
The Greek Magical Papyri


-Dark Ages Era - 476 C.E. to 1000 C.E.
The Enchiridion of Pope Leo - Rome 1523- collections of prayers given to Charlemagne by Pope Leo III in the year 800 C.E.
Lactanitus in 3rd century C.E. & Cyril of Alexandria in 5th century C.E., -Hermes Trismegitus
The Sworn Book of Honorius the Magician - 2 original manuscript before 13th century
The Sword of Moses ,ancient Hebrew ,possibly Aramaic date back to the 10th century C.E.
Sefer HaBahir or Bahir - Book of the Brightness -anonymous mystical work -first published in 12-th century
Sefer Raziel HaMalakh - Book of Raziel the Angel - hebrew & aramaic is a medieval grimoire -13th century manuscript



-Medieval Era - 1000 C.E. to 1453
Picatrix - The Aim of the Sage al-Majriti, Maslamati ibn Ahmad dated circa 1004-7 ,translated in latin in 1256
Albertus Magus - produced works from circa 1200 to his death 1280
Agrippa carried over the work of his mentor, Johannes Trithemius -most famous and notorious work ,the three books of his Steganographia or Secret Writing ,Liber octa quaestionum ad Maximilianum Caesarem de fide et intellectu ( deals with demons,sorcery,witchcraft )
The Book of Abramelin by Abraham of Worms ( between 1387 and 1427 ) first codex Gulficus Anno 1608
H.Cornelius Agrippa - Three Books of Occult Philosophy ( written from 1609 to 1510 )


-Renaissance Era - 1460 C.E. to 1600 C.E.

Clavicula Solomonis or The Key of Solomon the King -medieval references to a Clavicula Salomonis and Sigillium Salomonis dated back to 1456
Grimoirium Verum published in the year 1517 by Alibeck the Egyptian at Memphis or Grimoirium Verum - The True Grimoire The Most Approved Keys of Solomon Mthe Hebrew Rabbi ,translated by Plangiere Jesuit Dominicane
Arbatel de Magia Veterum - Arbatel appeared in latin in 1575 ( author unknown )
Theosophia Pneumatica
The Sword of Moses - 13th - 14th century manuscript
Grand Grimoire & Arbatel of Magic produced around 1575
Pseudomonarchia Daemonum ( Liber officiorum spirituum ) by Johann Weyer 1563
Heptameron or Magical Elements - circa 1655 by Peter de Abano ( earliest edition appears in 1496 )
The Lesser Key I - date back to 1531 ( Ars Almadel, Ars Notoria , Ars Paulina )
Enochian Magic - Dee & Kelly ( worked together from 1582 to 1587 ) - Mysteriourum Libri Quinque ,Mysteriorum Liber Sextus et Sanctus ,Holy Table ,Tabula Bonorum angelorum invocationes ,etc.
Secret Grimoire of Turiel circa 1518
Sefer hsYashar or "Book of the Upright" from the Amoraim period 1st & 2nd centuries (not known to be still in existence! )
The Sixth and Seventh Books of Moses - translated from a text written in the Cuthan-Samaritan language extinct in the 12th century ,no manuscript older than 1849
Sefer ha-Levanah - The book of the Moon - extremely rare book ,the only copy is found in Cambridge University

These are just the ones that I found before I got tired of looking for them. Enjoy!

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