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Boltwave
QUOTE(Rosemary Campbell @ Nov 19 2005, 09:13 PM) [snapback]939487[/snapback]

You are wrong.
Many things that people pass along are nothing but Myths that have traveled down through the ages from parent to child and on and on.

Demons, Demons, Demons and where did we hear about Demons?

They are written about in the Bible and the Bible was written by a group of Psychic, Channelers who claimed to be talking to God, Jesus was a Psychic Channeler, and he and his Followers were the New Age people of that Lifetime. I am making the same claim, and no one believes me so tell me where does the line differentiate, the Psychic Channellers of Biblical times from the Psychic Channelers of this time period?

This all began for me back on May 9, 1986 when I awakened one Morning at 3 a.m. and Jesus was Walking towards my Bed.

He was a Full size man, and had materialized in the form of a man just as he looked in many Pictures.

The next 2 Nights at precisely 3 a.m. on the dot, he appeared to me again and said, I am to be his Special Channel to Earth.

After that many Guides appeared to me, including a White Haired Man who said he is God.

I believe this because he has the Power to show me into the past, and the future, and he has the power to let me Heal people when he chooses to.

Now thats the Story that I got from the Spirit world, and after that three of my Relatives and Dr. Petas appeared and they were angry, and jealous because Jesus appeared to me, and they set out to destroy our copy.

Now why the Guides have not been able to get these four to leave me alone is not clear, except to say all four of them have been written into the Holy Land Manuscripts, as Joseph, Mary Magdalena, and the Parents of Mary from that Lifetime.

My Three Relatives, and Dr. Petas maintain if they are written into the copy as members of the Holy Land Family, no one in the Universe would dare destroy them, and it looks like so far they have been Correct.

Now this is an absolutely true story, and I am imagining nothing.
I'm as sane as Jesus was when he tried to tell the World he was a channel for God.

In the Beginning, when I was rested, and all I could spot a Fetus in a womans stomach, and tell her she was pregnant, and I could look inside my sisters lung and see a Tumor.

I could meditate on Murders, and know what the Killer looked like long before the Police knew, and I have twenty years of pages stored in my Basement which will prove all of this.

Back in the Eighties, my neice developed leukemia and cancerous tumors all over her body and the Doctor gave her six months or less to live, and the Guides prescribed a Vitamin, mineral, amino acide regime for her specific body type, and without chemotherapy or radiation, she went into remission within a year and is still alive and well.

Believe it or not its all true.





I understand that, but Jesus was just more than a "psychic channeler" he was the son of God, he died not only for our sins but he also died for the fact that the devil existed, and we all needed something to shelter ourself from him and his minions, we didn't have that in the begining, we have that now, his disicples were sent out to ,help cure the sick and diseased in his name, it is also said that they would drive out demons, not ghosts, because ghosts do not exist.


Jesus could heal the blind and aid the diseased, no one can do this correctly without knowing who he is and what he did as the son of God.



Demons still thrive today even after the resurrection, why you would ask? It's because we have free choice and a free will, we can only be protected from evil if we follow God's rules, in some instances, Satan will win sometimes and that is when you must call upon his protection.



Case and point, you are possessed by evil spirits, and not ghosts.
Boltwave

They are written about in the Bible and the Bible was written by a group of Psychic, Channelers who claimed to be talking to God, Jesus was a Psychic Channeler, and he and his Followers were the New Age people of that Lifetime. I am making the same claim, and no one believes me so tell me where does the line differentiate, the Psychic Channellers of Biblical times from the Psychic Channelers of this time period?

This all began for me back on May 9, 1986 when I awakened one Morning at 3 a.m. and Jesus was Walking towards my Bed.

He was a Full size man, and had materialized in the form of a man just as he looked in many Pictures.

The next 2 Nights at precisely 3 a.m. on the dot, he appeared to me again and said, I am to be his Special Channel to Earth.





3 AM???????????????????? disgust.gif



That's wasn't Jesus Rosemary, that was the devil, 3 AM is the time for demonic activity in which the devil arises in his dwelling time.



I have no doubt that this is the devil, Rosemary, one last thing, WAKE UP!
KAOSInc
QUOTE(Rosemary Campbell @ Nov 20 2005, 07:13 AM) [snapback]939487[/snapback]

the Bible was written by a group of Psychic, Channelers who claimed to be talking to God, Jesus was a Psychic Channeler, and he and his Followers were the New Age people of that Lifetime. I am making the same claim, and no one believes me so tell me where does the line differentiate, the Psychic Channellers of Biblical times from the Psychic Channelers of this time period?


That's a point if they were actually talking with God(hopefully they weren't delusional!) but I always thought the bible was a fable!

So why hasn't God sent another soldier to save the day/world after all this time?

Boltwave
QUOTE(KAOSInc @ Nov 20 2005, 01:36 AM) [snapback]939808[/snapback]

That's a point if they were actually talking with God(hopefully they weren't delusional!) but I always thought the bible was a fable!

So why hasn't God sent another soldier to save the day/world after all this time?



Mainly because the anti-Christ hasn't come yet.



And if the son of God appointed them to be his discples, it would not qualify them to be delusional.
Rosemary Campbell
QUOTE(Ancestralbone @ Nov 19 2005, 11:58 PM) [snapback]939606[/snapback]

Curious about something about people who were evil in life could become a evil spirit in death. I personally do not believe that people who committed a violent crimes against a person can be loving once they die. I feel that negative energy they had in this world can be carried over to the after life. Therefore evil spirit can posses as much as a demon can and exorism I feel works on both. Just an opinion.


I agree with you Completely.
I also believe if someone is murdered by someone and the Killer thinks they have solved their problem that they need to know that the Murder Victim can come back and torment them for a very long time.

Rosemary Campbell
QUOTE(Boltwave @ Nov 20 2005, 01:37 AM) [snapback]939713[/snapback]

They are written about in the Bible and the Bible was written by a group of Psychic, Channelers who claimed to be talking to God, Jesus was a Psychic Channeler, and he and his Followers were the New Age people of that Lifetime. I am making the same claim, and no one believes me so tell me where does the line differentiate, the Psychic Channellers of Biblical times from the Psychic Channelers of this time period?

This all began for me back on May 9, 1986 when I awakened one Morning at 3 a.m. and Jesus was Walking towards my Bed.

He was a Full size man, and had materialized in the form of a man just as he looked in many Pictures.

The next 2 Nights at precisely 3 a.m. on the dot, he appeared to me again and said, I am to be his Special Channel to Earth.



3 AM???????????????????? disgust.gif
That's wasn't Jesus Rosemary, that was the devil, 3 AM is the time for demonic activity in which the devil arises in his dwelling time.
I have no doubt that this is the devil, Rosemary, one last thing, WAKE UP!


How can you say such a thing?

Jesus appeared to me because he is Jesus and over the past 20 Years I have spoken to he and many other good Spirits in the Spirit World.

And in fact they are right in my home today helping me to analyze these things and talking to me about how to respond to them.

Jesus and all of these Guides are alive in the Spirit World and they don't punch a time clock and can appear to me at anytime day or night which is exactly what some of them do.

What is the Purpose for what they are doing?

Well they are here to tell you that Jesus and the others are alive in the Spirit World and they are here to Prove Everlasting Life and the Existance of God and everyone else in the Spirit World.

Everyone who appears to us from the Spirit world are not Demons and they are not Demons appearing as our Relatives, sometimes we do have mean Relatives who die, and when they pass over they are in some cases just as mean and ugly as they were on Earth.

They don't suddenly sprout wings, and turn into perfect angels, and that is one of the Missions I have here as I Channel for Spirit, is to educate some people who don't know these things, and to try to get through to some of the others, who have misconceived ideas about the After Life, and God and all sorts of things that the Guides have the answers to.

I want to be kind and helpful and pass on the Information that I have gathered about good and Evil in the After Life but mainly I want the World to know there is Truly Life After Death just as the Bible tells us.

Its a little difficult to believe that Jesus and the others would be speaking through me but when they appeared to me back in l986 they told me this is to be my mission on Earth for the rest of my Days.

Believe It Or Not.
sub_x0ne
Exorcisms are real but the people who are being exorcised are really mentally ill. Since the person who is mentally ill believes in the religion, they also believe it can help them. Being possessed is nothing more than a mental illness.
Rosemary Campbell
QUOTE(sub_x0ne @ Nov 21 2005, 12:32 AM) [snapback]941279[/snapback]

Exorcisms are real but the people who are being exorcised are really mentally ill. Since the person who is mentally ill believes in the religion, they also believe it can help them. Being possessed is nothing more than a mental illness.


You are completely wrong about that.

Possessions are very Real, and the person possessed is not mentally ill.

It is true when a person has a possession problem those who are not knowledgeable about these things will tell them they are Mentally Ill, but that does not make it true.

In fact people who have attitudes much like yours will prevent Priests from taking these people seriously in many cases and this will delay the help they seek.

I think in many cases Psychiatrists misdiagnose people who are Possessed, and prescribe the wrong treatment but this is not really the Doctors fault because they just don't know any better.

I hope for your sake you never attract the ire of an Angry Spirit in the Spirit World because if you do you will find out first hand that Possessions are real and Exorcisms are necessary to help the person.


The Skeptic Eric Raven
I will tell you what is real. Medication. It is sad people would rather believe they are possessed then seek medical attention that could make their life worth living.
Rosemary Campbell
QUOTE(ericraven2003 @ Nov 21 2005, 01:24 AM) [snapback]941368[/snapback]

I will tell you what is real. Medication. It is sad people would rather believe they are possessed then seek medical attention that could make their life worth living.


You are Just wrong.

The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(Rosemary Campbell @ Nov 20 2005, 06:27 PM) [snapback]941375[/snapback]

You are Just wrong.

No you are. I choose to live in the real world and you choose to live in an alternate one. We have to agree to disagree. sleepy.gif
sub_x0ne
QUOTE(Rosemary Campbell @ Nov 20 2005, 07:11 PM) [snapback]941338[/snapback]

You are completely wrong about that.

Possessions are very Real, and the person possessed is not mentally ill.

It is true when a person has a possession problem those who are not knowledgeable about these things will tell them they are Mentally Ill, but that does not make it true.

In fact people who have attitudes much like yours will prevent Priests from taking these people seriously in many cases and this will delay the help they seek.

I think in many cases Psychiatrists misdiagnose people who are Possessed, and prescribe the wrong treatment but this is not really the Doctors fault because they just don't know any better.

I hope for your sake you never attract the ire of an Angry Spirit in the Spirit World because if you do you will find out first hand that Possessions are real and Exorcisms are necessary to help the person.


Lol. Religious fanatics are always fun. I respect your opinion but it is radical.
Rosemary Campbell
QUOTE(sub_x0ne @ Nov 21 2005, 01:30 AM) [snapback]941379[/snapback]

Lol. Religious fanatics are always fun. I respect your opinion but it is radical.


And your opinion is closed minded, ignorant ,and a fear of facing reality.

If you want Reality I think you should read some of my Journal that I began on October 27, 2003 in an effort to tell about my own Personal Experiences, and also as a tool to educate those like you who are afraid to face the truth about the Afterlife, and Possessing Spirits and that is why I have named my Journal 'My Two Worlds'
http://Journals.aol.com/Kitty1392/TwoWorlds/entries

In the Journal you will not only meet my three relatives, Eve, Carrie and George, and Dr. Petas one of the most prestigious Psychics in Sylvania, Ohio with a big office and top of the line Clients when he walked the Earth, and together they decided to make my life a living hell since l985, you will also meet the good Guides who wanted to write good things through me, but were hampered by the four Evil, Jealous ones that I knew on Earth and who came back to continue to try to make my life miserable just as they sometimes did when they walked the Earth in this Lifetime.
Whether you read it or not is strictly up to you but I think you would come away with a better idea of what is real and what is not that you experience as far as what everyone believes about the World Beyond where all of our Spirits will go one day when we shed our Earthly Body and travel upward.

You may of course comment on anything I have written if you choose to read it and you may talk about it to anyone you choose and tell anyone you want to about it and they too may commment because I am open to criticism if that is what people choose to do, but whatever anyone ever thinks about it its the absolute truth.

I have added Dr. Stergio Petas name to this copy hoping to shame him into coming out, but it hasn't worked in the past and I don't think it will work now because since he passed away his wife of many years has died and his son was buried about two weeks ago and learning this didn't even get him out of my body so you can see the kind of man he has turned into since meeting my three vegeful, bitter relatives in the After Life.

When he and the others entered my body he said if you try to tell your relatives or anyone that I am dioing this to you they will not believe you because who would believe that a wonderful Prestitious Psychiatrist would do this to a woman just because she didn't choose me over another man when I walked the Earth.

So you see, love, hate and vengance, lives beyond Death.

So tell me this old Sot didn't take his Memories to the Afterlife.



Boltwave
QUOTE(sub_x0ne @ Nov 20 2005, 11:32 PM) [snapback]941279[/snapback]

Exorcisms are real but the people who are being exorcised are really mentally ill. Since the person who is mentally ill believes in the religion, they also believe it can help them. Being possessed is nothing more than a mental illness.




Many people have thought that, they choose to not accept demons, however although they are mental illnessses there are some stories that could convince you otherwise to but to become a believer you have to see it with your own eyes and get a glimpse for yourself.



The difference between a mental illness and a person possessed is that mental illnesses are nothing more than self manifestations, and people can choose to develope hyper-sensitive sensorys, but even then it slightly spiritual.


Let's say that a person has the right to see, well, the chemical inbalance that may be present at the time could very well be a spiritual reaction causing the physical tissue in the brain to have a slight malfunction.


In many ways, the brain and the spirit are connceted, what makes the brain so complex? The large mass of tissue? Or the spirit and given life inside all that muscle.
Boltwave
QUOTE(Rosemary Campbell @ Nov 20 2005, 02:18 PM) [snapback]940556[/snapback]

How can you say such a thing?

Jesus appeared to me because he is Jesus and over the past 20 Years I have spoken to he and many other good Spirits in the Spirit World.

And in fact they are right in my home today helping me to analyze these things and talking to me about how to respond to them.

Jesus and all of these Guides are alive in the Spirit World and they don't punch a time clock and can appear to me at anytime day or night which is exactly what some of them do.

What is the Purpose for what they are doing?

Well they are here to tell you that Jesus and the others are alive in the Spirit World and they are here to Prove Everlasting Life and the Existance of God and everyone else in the Spirit World.

Everyone who appears to us from the Spirit world are not Demons and they are not Demons appearing as our Relatives, sometimes we do have mean Relatives who die, and when they pass over they are in some cases just as mean and ugly as they were on Earth.

They don't suddenly sprout wings, and turn into perfect angels, and that is one of the Missions I have here as I Channel for Spirit, is to educate some people who don't know these things, and to try to get through to some of the others, who have misconceived ideas about the After Life, and God and all sorts of things that the Guides have the answers to.

I want to be kind and helpful and pass on the Information that I have gathered about good and Evil in the After Life but mainly I want the World to know there is Truly Life After Death just as the Bible tells us.

Its a little difficult to believe that Jesus and the others would be speaking through me but when they appeared to me back in l986 they told me this is to be my mission on Earth for the rest of my Days.

Believe It Or Not.




Rosemary, have you ever heard of the angel of light? Yeah um funny story but the angel of light is actually the devil himself in disguise.

Satan won't always appear to you in a vile and scary way, he can also come to you with the look and feel of the real thing, he can take shape and form to whatever he pleases even the physical form of Christ.

Now listen people, it isn't crazy to say someone is possessed, if you listened to this tape, the sounds are much more in depth than someone druling and making gibberish up and so on.

http://paranormal.about.com/library/bl_exo...m_recording.htm

This tape has not been changed in any way, it said so on the article, and you will find there are other exorcism tapes that may sound allot like this.


What is crazy is that Rosemary is ignoring other possiblities, ghosts lie, well, news flash: DEMONS LIE TOO!
kinley
Perhaps it is belief driven, perhaps not. Could a demon completely take control of a person or is there no such things as demons. Who knows, but there have been well documented exorcisms that would describe things done by the possessed that seem to lead one to believe that they are real. Stigmata is I suppose the polar opposite of needing an exorcism and once again there are several well documented cases, one of which lasted 50 years others as long as 30 + years. This is why we are on this board because the paranormal does not deal in absolutes and somethings just don't have a definitive answer, they just leave more questions.
sub_x0ne
QUOTE(Rosemary Campbell @ Nov 24 2005, 07:17 AM) [snapback]946804[/snapback]

And your opinion is closed minded, ignorant ,and a fear of facing reality.


I see it the opposite way. You believe so blindly in God that you close your mind out to any logical theory. My statements aren't ignorant or closed minded. I want certain paranormal things to be real, but I have yet to see evidence, so in no way am I in "fear of facing reality" whatever that's supposed to mean. Being skeptical is better than believing anything you hear.
Ancestralbone
In some ways are we not all a bit closed minded about certain things. I know that some people believe what little evidence the Church has released to the public about exorcisms. But personally if I saw one with my own eyes that still would not prove it is real to me. My definition of closed minded is someone whom will not hear new ideals nor wants to accept change in their life. I had to accept a change in my life this morning and that is I lost a Grandmother this morning. Although I am happy she is no longer suffering I feel empty that I can never hug, hear, see, her in this world again. What really is important is telling those whom you love each that you do love them. I did not get to say goodbye or I love you to her but that is how life goes sometimes. Sorry got off topic a bit and my apologies to the moderators and admin.
sarah
Hi,
I am really sorry to hear about your Grandmother Ancestralbone.
I remember when my GreatGrandfather died. It was a while ago 1986 but still feels like yesterday. I think that if you always remember and think of them then they are always with you in your heart.
Thoughts are with you,
Sarah
Rosemary Campbell
QUOTE(Ancestralbone @ Nov 28 2005, 12:17 PM) [snapback]951683[/snapback]

In some ways are we not all a bit closed minded about certain things. I know that some people believe what little evidence the Church has released to the public about exorcisms. But personally if I saw one with my own eyes that still would not prove it is real to me. My definition of closed minded is someone whom will not hear new ideals nor wants to accept change in their life. I had to accept a change in my life this morning and that is I lost a Grandmother this morning. Although I am happy she is no longer suffering I feel empty that I can never hug, hear, see, her in this world again. What really is important is telling those whom you love each that you do love them. I did not get to say goodbye or I love you to her but that is how life goes sometimes. Sorry got off topic a bit and my apologies to the moderators and admin.


I too am sorry about your grandmother.
You didn't get to say goodbye to her before she left but with the great Psychic Gift you have she will no doubt visit your in your dreams or drop in in person.

After things settle down after the funeral and you are feeling a little less overwhelmed I feel you could write all your feelings out on paper and tell her goodbye the way you choose to and this will make her very happy in the After Life.


Crazy Funk
Ancestralbone - My deepest sympathy for your recent loss. I have been in a similar position having helped care for my own grandmother until she finally died after a very long illness. Things will start to look up after as time goes by and I'm sure you will value her memory always. I hope she is at peace.
Ancestralbone
Thank you Sarah, Rosemary, and Crazy Funk for being so kind and I appreciate your sympathy. She suffered many strokes which caused her to slow down quite a bit but now she is no longer suffering. For that I am truly thankful. Again thank you so much.
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