Their is no real proof that when an exorcism is performed, that a demon actually leaves the body.



Assuming possession actually occur in someone. Hypnotherapy is not a proven science. Using it to help someone's mental condition, is unlikely.



Their is no scientific evidence that exorcism dose anything.



Their is no scientific evidence that suggest possessions are real.



Who would believe anyone can do that?



Scientology is a lame and stupid religion.



There is no real scientific evidence that intelligent alien life ever existed.



There is no physical evidence of intelligent alien life.



There is no real scientific evidence that demons exist.

How much would an excorcism cost these days? Moe has been levitating at strange times. This is most unhwolesome while using the facilities.

Lol, you never fail to amuse me, moe.

You seem to be quite the skeptic, you only believe in science technology ?. Luckily you didn't live in the Roman Era. You'd still think the world was flat, and that the sun revolved around earth. Just because it's not scientifically proven does not mean it does not exist.

And yes, the Roman Catholic church only does exorcisms based on the above criteria. You say who would believe in that ?, well, a few million Roman Catholics do. In fact, if no ever showed any of those symptoms, well I guess they would not be charactertistics of Demonic Possession, and the church would not believe in the whole rite.

There is no proof of god,so how can we have proof of an exorcism.

There is no proof, but there is also no proof to a lot of things that we believe in this world, all kinds of theories. So Im just stating, saying no one can possibly say, God does not exist, and if they do, I want a 100 % reason or definition into why it does not exist. If someone can give me a 100 % fallable explanation to how God can NOT exist, I will believe them.

I say God does exist, and I cannot demonstrate a 100% explanation. Although, I will never doubt the possibility of somethings existance until it was proven otherwise, and I hope everyone should stand by that fact.

I believe in the presence of the genies ( the devil ) and that it wears in the human body and this is known at us many in the Arab countries and this thing it increases....

And I believe that the genies ( the devil ) live in the human head only and from there that can control it , And to this find we in some of the times that some that was injured by this exhibitor dies

But did you ask why the devil enters the human and what is the purpose from this ?

You do not say that it wants the destruction of the human being !!
Because it can that through the whispering to it...

I will comment once again on the topic later

And Im so sorry for grieved my poor English

tcha tcha

I am assuming these genies don't grant 3 wishes.

DO YOU HARBOR EVIL POSSESSIONS?
IF SO THE VATICAN CAN IDENTIFY
THEM, AND TAKE THEM AWAY FROM YOU...

VATICAN LATEST QUEST TO CHASE AWAY
SATAN AND THE EVIL SPIRITS...
Rome priests get exorcism lessons
By Mark Duff
BBC News, Milan




A two-month course is being offered at the university
A Vatican-backed college is launching a new course for exorcists - Roman Catholic priests who cast out evil spirits from the possessed.
Lessons at the prestigious Athenaeum Pontificium Regina Apostolorum will include the history of Satanism and its context in the Bible.
Practical lessons in psychology and the law will also feature.
Concern is high in Italy about the influence of Satanic cults - especially among the young and impressionable.
And there will also be seminars at the Athenaeum, or Upra as it is known, on the spiritual, liturgical and pastoral work involved in being an exorcist.
The ideal exorcist
Father Giulio Savoldi has been Milan's official exorcist for more than 20 years.
He did not have the benefit of training but is in no doubt about what he would include in any course for candidates to take on the task of fighting evil in the raw - and the qualities needed of any would-be exorcist.
"I would include the supernatural force - the presence of God - and then suggest that the man picked to do this kind of work be wise and that he should know how to gather strength not just from within himself but from God," he says.
"Because each case of possession is different, each person possessed is different. Those studying to become exorcists should also study psychology and know how to distinguish between a mental illness and a possession.
"And - finally - they need to be very patient."
Next week - in a case that has captured the public imagination - a court outside Milan is due to consider murder charges against a group of young people accused of killing two teenagers as part of a Satanic rite.
For Father Savoldi, the case just confirms his belief in the power of evil to make the most of human weakness.


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Romes chief excorcist warns parents against Harry Potter

Rome's official exorcist, Fr Gabriele Amorth, has warned parents against J.K. Rowlings Harry Potter books, suggesting that Satan is behind the works.

Fr Amorth, who is also the president of the International Association of Exorcists, told the Italian ANSA news agency, Rev. Amorth said "Behind Harry Potter hides the signature of the king of the darkness, the devil."

He said that Rowlings books contain innumerable positive references to magic, "the satanic art". Amorth noted that the books attempt to make a false distinction between black and white magic, when in fact, the distinction "does not exist, because magic is always a turn to the devil."

In the interview which was published in papers across Europe, Fr Amorth also criticised the disordered morality presented in Rowling's works, noting that they suggest that rules can be contravened and lying is justified when they work to one's benefit.

Catholic clergy and Nazi officials, including Joseph Goebbels (far right) and Wilhelm Frick (second from right), give the Nazi salute. Germany, date uncertain.
[Photo source, Holocaust Encyclopedia,]
Check out the full articles about the Catholic links with Hitler. Click the link below.
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Adolf Hitler converses with the Papal Nuncio, Archbishop Cesare Orsenigo, at a New Year's reception in Berlin. (January 1, 1935)
[Photo source, US Holocaust Museum]
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***MAKE SURE YOU CHECK THE CLAIMS AGAINST THE VATICAN BY GOING TO THIS SITE :http://www.vaticanbankclaims.com/vatcom.htm
Las Vegas, March 14th, 2005 - Following the National Catholic Reporter’s report on the Vatican’s requesting Condoleeza Rice to intervene and dismiss a U.S. class-action lawsuit naming the Holy See as the defendant in a sex abuse case*, the International Raelian Movement (www.rael.org) and thousands of victims worldwide plead for the world to see this deceitful, sleazy act for what it is – an attempt to escape from justice.

Why were these people concerned for a dying pontiff?
Was there no faith that he would go to Heaven, and be cured there?
Is this not in the Catholic Religions teachings?
If over 4 Million people from all over the World came to see the deceased pope, and on a conservative estimate if they each spent $100.00 for their Pilgrimage. This would then equal $400 Million that could have saved the lives of thousands of starving and sick children around the World. The ex Pope could then have still lived on in your fond memories, and you would have done something more positive than just looking at a deceased 84 year old body...
 
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I dont quite understand the meaning of this post, except the first part that deals with the church giving exorcism classes for their priests. It was front page news at UM not long ago.

And whats with the write up with Hitler and the Church ?. Half way through WW II, Hitler became a church fanatic. He devoted a whole group to paranormal activities called third reicht. Their job was to find the Spear of Longinus, as well as the Holy Grail. I have no doubt in my mind he spent a lot of time re-searching these artifacts and dis-cussing them with Church cardinals and Bishops. As far as bishop authorities helping him with his dictatorship, I have no idea, perhaps he promised things to the church at that time that he never fullfilled.

Hitler was a chronic farter. History knows this fact. This was likely the reason for seeking out said grail.

The days for the Jurassic Religions who teach with fear are numbered. Just like the dianosaurs days were. Wake up and smell the roses, and stop grovelling on your knees to some god who to you lives in a cloud somewhere. There is only one real creator, and his name is Yahweh, who is the head of the 'Eternals' on the Elohims planet.

If you don't believe me check out the "Whats In A Name Page" on my website.

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Hmmm.... Interesting web site.

I think I will keep my faith in God.


And Moe....EWWWWW!

Good for you! This is the beauty of living in a free civilisation. You sound like you are from the U.S.

May your God Bless you and your Country! The Good Lord knows you need it more now than in any other time in history.

Love and best regard's

Claude Niero

He seeked the Holy Grail because it was suppose to of brought ever lasting life. The spear of Longinus was said to have battle worthy skills. Anyone with that spear in hand could never lose a specific defeat in battle, and that has been founded to be true so far through History.

As far as Yahweh is concerned, it's the same God, you just have different beliefs in him, but it's the same story. God was called yahweh in the Old Testament, during Exodus with Moses, it was dubbed by the Jews.

Hi Stephanie. You say that there is no phisical evidence that extra terestrials do not exist? Then who does the 'Un-Broken" Crop Circles? Please take the time to visit my web site to find out more. My Webpage

Love and best regard's

Claude Niero

I believe possesions do happen although rarely. If you study the subject in depth and keep an open mind I don't see how it can be otherwise. I have no problem with those who believe otherwise and can see their point of view but I think a lot of it depends on faith based beliefs.

Boy you said it. Although I do think that many faiths have some belief in possession.

Don't make statements if you can't back them up with evidence.

There's theories based on evidence that suggest alien life. Take a look around you. Look at all the people on this planet and tell me that you're in some way gifted to live as the only "intelligent" being in the universe. You, yourself, are proof that intelligent life is plausible in our universe. To claim you're the only species with the ability to think logically is narrow minded when you have no proof of their non-existance. You can point me to as many "look how these crop circles were faked!" sites as you want, that doesn't prove your point at all. It disputes a single incident, not all. Until you have evidence to dispute every single crop circle case, your evidence is not factual at all. It's a theory as much as aliens existing in the first place is. I'm not saying all crop circles and whatnot are real, but a lot of them can't be explained through science, so don't post your opinions as fact.

1. Dose the Roman Catholic Church believe that Demonic Possession can be summon though a Ouija Board?

2. Dose the Roman Catholic Church believe in house possession?

Coldwhitelight, I know that the Church condemns the use of Ouija Boards. I believe it is for that very reason that they are condemned, as a priest once described them as "a gateway to hell" during a sermon.

Azalin, you said you are an ex-priest of the Roman Catholic Church. If you still believe in God and the Church, why did you leave the priesthood?

Ouija boards can be used to bring fourth demonic entities as well as wandering spirits, that is correct. Ouija boards are a tool that can be used, but without the proper use and training, it cannot do much. I think of ouija boards like a hammer, give it to someone that doesn't know how to use it, and they can hurt themselves, but in the right hands, you can fix many things. However, like it is said above by Original, the church does not use Ouija boards. Summoning the help of other spirits should not be done for personal gain, god provides what you need. If you are a demonologist or an angelogist, you generally seek wisdom and knowledge from these spirits, which is of great use. However, once again, the church does not abide, or encourage the use of these.

House possession is very possible. Mainly this is done on what the church refers to as "un-hallowed" ground, which is tainted ground. Mainly demonic worshippers consencrate a land and make it evil. Not much different then a priest blessing a graveyard or a Roman Catholic church. This can bind evil spirits to that specific location, and cause evil intentions or harm to anyone that lives or ventures on that property. Generally when Exorcisms are being done, the Exorcist will bless the home as well. There are evil places in the world, and holy places. There is a feeling of righteousness when you walk into a church, you feel safe, but I have been to other places where I have felt the exact opposite.

I will answer your question in a PM, thank you

I don't know if Evil spirits can be Expelled because I cannot find a priest to prove this to me.
I have had two so called healers who advertised on the Web claim that they could expell Possessing Spirits from my body but they both failed and I was just out the money although they insisted they had cleansed me but it didn't work.

I have been turned down by at least three priests and no one much will believe this is happening to me but its abolutely true Spirit Possession is something that is happening to me right now and as I write here the four of them sit inside my body and write along with me through Automatic Writing to irritate me and there is nothing I can do about it.

In July l986 three of my Relatives and Stergio a man I knew who died in l985 decided to become experimental possessing Spirits and entered my body and say they will stay here until a priest proves he can Exorcise them from my body and to date no priest would agree to even Try.

I have tried other Ministers and most of them don't believe, and the ones who do say I am dabbling in Witchcraft which isn't true, I had no control over these four Spirits entering my body and challenging a Higher Power to remove them, which so far he hasn't been able to do although he appears on occassion and tells them if they are still inside my body when I die he will destroy them as soon as they leave my body.

But can he really Destroy them when they come out? or is he just trying to scare them into coming out?

I hope that he is successful soon but I also have to accept the fact that he may have only told them to scare them out and unless they come out and challenge him and force him to prove he has this power I am stuck with whatever any of them say.

I have told the Spirits if they don't come out and challenge that Guide's Power who threatens them it could be after I die, and they leave my body they may realize that no one can really destroy them, and at that time they will not have anyone on this Keyboard to write the truth to the World.

So now I am continuing to try self-exorcism with the aid of a Crucifix, and the Bible, and see if it eventually works.
Until then I have no other solution than to write here to answer any questions others might have about these things.

One thing I do know for sure we do survive in Spirit after our body dies on Earth, and I know now that our Brain with all its intelligence lives on in the World ' Beyond the Veil of Death.'

Also these three Mean Realtives, and Stergio have put a face on Evil Spirits, for me anyway.

I think others should know these things because, I believe a Murder Victim for Example could come back to Earth, and while their killer is trapped in Prison they could get into their body and do all sorts of terrible things to them to punish them for what they did to them.

When Stergio walked the Earth he was Dr. Stergio Nicholas Petas from Sylvania, Ohio, on the Surface one of the areas most Respected psychiatrists, he left a wife Francis and three Daughters Susan, Thelma, Marinna and two Sons James and Nicholas Jr.

Whether they still live in Sylvania I don't know because Dr. Petas hasn't been back to see them since he died in l985 instead he came here to talk to me and later joined three of my Relatives in the Spirit World to torment me and challenge a Higher Power to prove he can Destroy a Spirit as he threatened to do.

He said because of who he was in the Community no one will ever believe that he a Psychiatrist would do such a thing in the Spirit World and so far he is right no one has believed it.


Another Reason they challenge a Higher Power is something written into a book Published by Channel for Spirit Ruth Montgomery who writes with her Guides Thomas and Lily and in the books they wrote she said: "When Evil Spirits grow so Evil they can't be Rehabilitated God appears and Destroys them".

Carrie, Eve, George all my Relatives from this Lifetime and Dr. Petas say the fact that they have been sitting inside my body since July 1986 the First Anniversary of Dr. Petas Death and they haven't been destroyed proves this isn't true.

I say if they want to prove this beyond a shadow of a doubt they need to stop hiding inside my body and come out and Challenge God and the powers that be in the Spirit World outside my body and see what happens to them but so far they are still scared to do that after the deplorable pain filled years they have been attacking me.

One of the Guides on the Higher Realms of the Spirit World said until dr. Petas agrees to bring my three Relatives and leave my body we will add Dr. Petas name and that of his family to the copy until he agrees to come out and go in Peace.


The Guides have also said until Dr. Petas agrees to come out of my body and Bring Carrie, Eve, and George with him and leave my area that I should return here often and keep adding exerpts to their Story until we prove to the world how we got them to agree to leave my body.

Since October 27, 2003 I have been writing all about this situation in my aol Journal, and I had hoped that would drive them out of my body but so far no so I am now taking them on every Site I can who will let me write to tell the World what is happening to me.
Hoping some News Organization will pick this u and do stories on it and perhaps interview the Family of Dr. petas and see if they will help me talk their relative into coming out of my body and go accept his life in the Spirit World.


http://journals.aol.com//Kitty1392/TwoWorlds/entries

Here, Here! Well said! You are 100% correct!

Their are some flaws in the symptoms of demonic possession.

Let's start with speaking in languages foreign to the victim. I don't quite understand what the Roman Catholic church means by this.

Another symptom of demonic possession is using telepathy or telekineses. Their is no scientific evidence, that a human can manipulate objects with their mind.

The demonic symptom of predicting the future, is false. No one can predict the future.



Crop Circles are a hoax. Small groups of people using planks, rope, and wire, stomp down a sizeable area of crops in a single night, leaving behind elaborate designs. Some of the individuals responsible came forward and announced that crop circles were a design of their doing. This was later scientifically confirmed, that small groups of people, can make elaborate designs in a field within hours.



Their is no real scientific evidence that intelligent alien life ever existed.

Extraterrestrial life exist in theory only.



What are your thoughts on Darwin theory of evolution and the theory of intelligent design.

Yes, they are for REAL, it's no joke and it really depends on if the person is having problems or is acting to get attention, you wouldn't get a priest to get involved with a hoax if they knew about it firsthand, and if you did get a priest to perform a false exorcism with the knowledge of knowing the fraud they are not a true believer in what they preach.

Don't Priests investigate the person and their family before performing an exorcism? Or am I under the wrong impression here? I thought that it was very difficult to get the Catholic Church to preform one because the Priest was required to investigate and validate the need for a exorcism. Correct me if I am wrong? Although I am unsure of this kind of possession since I have never seen one with my own eyes. So I cannot say for sure if there is a true need for exorcisms.

This morning as I awaken from Sleep I get a Psychic Message that shows the two Anorexic Twins who have been featured in the News Recently and I am told these Twins are Possessed by Demons and they need an Exorcism and once the Demons are driven from their bodies they will recover.

The Roman Catholic Church only performs excorcisms if the above criteria is met. When I stated speaking in foreign languages, what I mean, is the victim speaking in a language unknown to them. So a girl that suddenly speaks in Latin, when, she has had no prior teaching to such a complex language, but she easily speaks it.

Aside from this, Telekineses or Telepathy are also symptoms. You state that they are not humanly possible, and that may in fact be correct. When you become demonically possessed, your not longer a human being, you become a tool for a higher power. The Catholic church recongnizes this as a specific symptom, but obviously if you don't believe it, fine, I assume it gives you peace of mind to know based on those rules, the church won't be doing any excorcisms anytime soon.

And as far as a demonic force telling the future, this is also an ability, the ability of foresight. Not so much are they able to tell the exact future, but they are able to inherently speak of worldly knowledge that they know nothing about. For instance a possessed victim may tell you what your great grandmothers maiden name was, or they may talk about an event in the world that may take place the next day, such as a tragic car crash.

These are all symptoms of demonic possession, and once again I state that if you don't beleive it, thats fine, because the Church does, and since they only give permission if the following criteria is met, their should be no worries of being possessed.



This is correct. A priest first goes and examines the victim to see if he can find one of the above traits. The ratio from possessed victims to mentally unstable victims is in the ratio of a 1000 to 1, generally. Possessions are very rare, so when a priest makes a claim to the church for the rite to perform such an action, they need to be 100% correct that it is in fact a true possession case.

I would like to comment here by saying that Psychics and Channels for good Spirit Guides can make Predictions and see into the future and they are not necessarily possessed by Demons.

There are Angel Guides who speak through people and they want to help to make the World a better place and they wouldn't think about doing anything wrong or try to force their opinions on others but just want to work in a friendly helpful way.

But the Flip side is there are mean spirits in the after life which we know as Demons and they do cause problems but quite often Psychics and or Channelers can tell the difference.

It may be true that some possessed persons can speak in foreign languages if the Spirit Speaking through them speaks a foreign language, but usually Guides speak in the language that the Psychic speaks such as English, or I suppose Spanish or whatever their native tongue is.

I would also like to say that I don't know how a Priest could determine if a person is Possessed, I believe they should take the Persons word for it because who should know better than the person who has the Problem.

I am very interested in learning exactly how an Exorcism works and if a Priest with the help of a Higher Power can really drive a Demon out of a Persons body?

The rite of exorcism can be reviewed here
Rite Of Exorcism. A priest determines if the person is possessed using the above traits and symptoms that I talked about earlier Rosemary. It's much like how a doctor reviews a patient to see what illness they have, a priest weighs the probability of mental illness, compared to demonic possession.

As for a priest driving a demon out of a persons body, I would assume it is possible, otherwise John Paul would not of updated the "De Exorcismus et supplicationibus quibusdam". It is true, the first exorcism of a demon was performed by Jesus Christ, but through his teachings, and through him, we are able to summon and channel the holy spirit to do the same deed.

Ah, yes they are demons that are needed to be driven out of their bodies, for you see, demons possessing a person will not allow them to eat or sleep, they torment the souls until they starve themselves of malnutrition.



Please Rosemary listen to me when I tell you that these are demons possessing you as well, they are evil and wicked and their hearts are black and full of evil suggestions and evil ideas.

Azalin thank you for setting me straight and I do appreciate the information on the website you provided for Rosemary. Not being Catholic I was not sure that I had the correct information and it nice to have someone correct me. Although now I am curious about when was the last time a Catholic priest performed a exorcism. Guess I go surfing for that one again thanks.

Rosemary, allot of the time a psychic is a fraud, their fake, they have special ways of telling a person what might happen but it doesn't mean that they have special powers or that they were born with a gift, really, the only kind of people that are born with a gift are telekenetic people, but yet they are not accepted in society, they are considered to be demonic and evil, which if your born as that person it isn't true.


No, you have some wrong ideas about these things, demons and angels Rosemary, not ghosts and fortune tellers, but demons and angels, hopefully you will realize that before it's too late.

Ancestralbone,

More then happy to enlighten you on such things. Catholic priests still perform exorcisms worldwide, however, they do their best to never stand in the media spotlight. The majority of them are actually done in Italy, and Spain, where a number of renowned exorcists live. Just recently the Vatican started an Exorcist specific class, for priests that are interested in that specific subject, or line of work. Information on that can be read at News Channel 3 here.

There are not many Exorcists, especially in North America, hence why there is never much talk, or media spotlight on such things. Since we are more "civilized" we place more blame on the mental illness, which, could very well be the case in our society. Usually in order to perform exorcisms in this part of the world, an exorcist needs to be requested, and the Vatican will send one, but only after all the evidence has been identified and approved by the church.

Thank you being so kind I always enjoy learning something new each day. I cannot image what it feels like to go through a possession myself. I can see where they may think someone who is possessed can be mistaken for a mental patient. So many fine lines that can define a persons mental, physical, and spiritual health these days. Even though I am not Catholic and I am for anything or anyone that can help somone. I hope those class will end up doing more good down the road for whom may need it. Again thank you. Take care,

Absolutely not the source of those kinds of Messages is a good and honorable Guide.
he gives me much good information.
He has much knowledge and has the ability to look into the past and the future and he can predict Earthquakes and the like years into the future.

Not that I believe a bit of this, but spirit could tell you anything they want. They could lie to you to make you a pawn and you would never know a difference. Once again, I don't believe in any of it.

Guess you do not trust anyone including your own instincts and besides people who believe in this do know that a bad spirit can lie just as good as alive human being can. Ying and Yang in the living world and the world of the dead which makes it balanced. I apologize for being slightly rude but it feels like you think we who believe are so niave when we aint. Just my opinion.

Your entitled to your opinon and I am to mine. Doesn't make it real.

You are the cutest little Kitty Kat but you are wrong in saying that I am wrong.

I have been doing this for 20 years now and I know about as much as anyone when it comes to communicating with the Spirit World.

I have had experiences with good guides and three of my relatives and Dr. Petas are bad spirits and they are not Demons masquarading as my Relatives they are my Relatives masquarading as Demons.

The reasons they do this is they want me to b**** and complain and try to tell others what they are doing and of course they don't believe me and their motive is they don't want me to work on other kinds of copy with the Guides and they feel since they are relatived to me that they still own me although they passed over many years ago.

When they walked the Earth they were pretty nice but then when I began to channel for Spirit and they could see some of the kinds of Information coming to me they got jealous and decided they were not going to let me be free to publish the things I got since they are not here to enjoy any success that might come and so like many people on Earth who have jealous thoughts they set out to try to stop me from being successful.

Back when this first happened I could see Earthquakes rumbling in the future as far away as 10 years, and I could see back into the past hundreds of years with the help of one of the Guides.

He could let me meditate on a Plane Crash back then, and right away I knew if it was Sabotage, or not, and I could go back in time to see the suitcase which had been placed on the plane and what it contained and what color it was.

One day they had a plane Hijacking in Kiuate? and I touched the television as the News came on and I said one of the Royal Sons was implicated, and that night on television they said yes, that is who was behind it, and I had not told anyone what I saw when I touched the Television.

Its hard to get people to believe these things, because they have never heard of me as a psychic, but that's because I have been working quietly on other things, and also trying to get these three Relatives and Dr. Petas to please leave me alone and go in peace but they are bound and determined to prevent me from gathering these other kinds of information.
Believe it or not.

And there is much much more to this story, but most of it is just too much for many to Believe so I put into Manuscripts and Mailed them out and all of them disappeared without a trace.

The Manuscripts contained deadly information about many and in those cases they have a way of Disappering and never being heard from again.

No, no, Rosemary, you are missing the point.

There is no such thing as a dead spirit trying to imitate demons because demons are the most powerful threats to man especially in the spiritual realm.

Plus there is no room for ghosts, spirits of the dead leave this earth forever, they don't have a choice in whether or not to stay, if they did why would be such a thing as death?

We are humans inside physical containments known as bodies, we can't just assume that they are dead people imitating demons, no matter how anxious or into things we may get.

Have you heard the story of Annielse Michel? The real Emily Rose? She exhibted horrible tormenting attacks, hallucination, voices, self starvation, self afflictions, seizures, hostile behavior towards others, etc.


Demons lie Rosemary, they will even lie about them being ghosts, or ghosts pretending to be demons, don't you get this at all?


Many people have valid points on things but the main issue concerns demons, not ghosts, ghosts are excuses for the devil to use against those that are weak minded and easily convinced by thier lies.


DO NOT BE FOOLED ROSEMARY, I will help you with this problem if you like but not until you can admit this is the devil and not some pissed off relatives.

I think people should visit a health professional before talking to spirits or fighting demons.

I know and that does not mean it ain't real either. What is real to me is not real to you as it should be after all we are all different.

I hope you the best. We just have to agree to disagree.

You are wrong.
Many things that people pass along are nothing but Myths that have traveled down through the ages from parent to child and on and on.

Demons, Demons, Demons and where did we hear about Demons?

They are written about in the Bible and the Bible was written by a group of Psychic, Channelers who claimed to be talking to God, Jesus was a Psychic Channeler, and he and his Followers were the New Age people of that Lifetime. I am making the same claim, and no one believes me so tell me where does the line differentiate, the Psychic Channellers of Biblical times from the Psychic Channelers of this time period?

This all began for me back on May 9, 1986 when I awakened one Morning at 3 a.m. and Jesus was Walking towards my Bed.

He was a Full size man, and had materialized in the form of a man just as he looked in many Pictures.

The next 2 Nights at precisely 3 a.m. on the dot, he appeared to me again and said, I am to be his Special Channel to Earth.

After that many Guides appeared to me, including a White Haired Man who said he is God.

I believe this because he has the Power to show me into the past, and the future, and he has the power to let me Heal people when he chooses to.

Now thats the Story that I got from the Spirit world, and after that three of my Relatives and Dr. Petas appeared and they were angry, and jealous because Jesus appeared to me, and they set out to destroy our copy.

Now why the Guides have not been able to get these four to leave me alone is not clear, except to say all four of them have been written into the Holy Land Manuscripts, as Joseph, Mary Magdalena, and the Parents of Mary from that Lifetime.

My Three Relatives, and Dr. Petas maintain if they are written into the copy as members of the Holy Land Family, no one in the Universe would dare destroy them, and it looks like so far they have been Correct.

Now this is an absolutely true story, and I am imagining nothing.
I'm as sane as Jesus was when he tried to tell the World he was a channel for God.

In the Beginning, when I was rested, and all I could spot a Fetus in a womans stomach, and tell her she was pregnant, and I could look inside my sisters lung and see a Tumor.

I could meditate on Murders, and know what the Killer looked like long before the Police knew, and I have twenty years of pages stored in my Basement which will prove all of this.

Back in the Eighties, my neice developed leukemia and cancerous tumors all over her body and the Doctor gave her six months or less to live, and the Guides prescribed a Vitamin, mineral, amino acide regime for her specific body type, and without chemotherapy or radiation, she went into remission within a year and is still alive and well.

Believe it or not its all true.

My last post was Meant for Boltwave but I may have quoted someone else when I replied so sorry.

That is what I meant and it is cool with me because I feel we all should not all agree on everything life would be boring that way.

Curious about something about people who were evil in life could become a evil spirit in death. I personally do not believe that people who committed a violent crimes against a person can be loving once they die. I feel that negative energy they had in this world can be carried over to the after life. Therefore evil spirit can posses as much as a demon can and exorism I feel works on both. Just an opinion.