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hey guyyyysss....HOW'S IT GOIN??it's been a long time i haven't posted here...but now i'm back and hoping to stay:lol: anywayz i was wondering about the issue of transforming water to ice...is it possible and if it is how can it be done?(methods of practice...)
Well, generally, when water gets cold, it turns into ice you see.
Try putting it in a cup, and then putting it in the freezer, for about 3 hours. Instant results!
Try putting it in a cup, and then putting it in the freezer, for about 3 hours. Instant results!
what do you mean by transforming water to ice? by a Freezer?! 
Haha jk, i had to say that. I suppose you can place water in a zip lock baggy and place it in liquid nitrogen. That should work..
Haha jk, i had to say that. I suppose you can place water in a zip lock baggy and place it in liquid nitrogen. That should work..
damn, burnside beat me to it... 
hahaha 
hahaha
I was in England a while back and asked a bartender for a few ice cubes for my whiskey. He said " Sorry mate the fella with the recipe immigrated" 
Very funny 
couldn't help myself not to fall asleep sorry next time i'll try to laugh....
what i actually meant is just like pyrok is manupilating with the fire is there a kinesis that allows u to turn water to ice(create ice) and can it be taught(are there any methods)?
couldn't help myself not to fall asleep sorry next time i'll try to laugh.... what i actually meant is just like pyrok is manupilating with the fire is there a kinesis that allows u to turn water to ice(create ice) and can it be taught(are there any methods)?
Well why didn't you say you wanted to use special magic powers? Naturally we all thought you'd be talking about real ways of doing it.
Naturally we all thought you'd be talking about real ways of doing it.
I new a woman who could turn an entire room into ice by walking through the door. 
Well i would imagine a person would have to have a very cold personality Hahahaha hehe Hahaha Wooooo..ahem...sorry 
Yub there is a kenisis for that, its called Cryokinesis, control over ice n' stuff... But i guess it takes a long time be4 u'r able to turn water into ice.. U should first begin to hold icecubes and take colder showers so u get used to cold. then u can move on to the next step.
After u get used to cold, u can try to drop the tempeture in the room. Clear your mind, and visualize a blizzard in the room, that's getting bigger and bigger, feel the cold, see the tempeture dropping on a thermostat. See the molecules in the room slowing down.
U can make iceballs too with CK. First make a normal Psi ball (if u don't know how, just check out Xeojin's BIG psiball thread
). Then visualize the water element mixing with your psi ball feel or see a breeze and see the water freezing. Try to hear the sounds of the ice crackling as the water freezes. Picture it freezing little by little, and compiling into a ball of ice between your palms. After a few shots, u should feel a cold sphere in youre hands.
And if you get the hang of it , try to cool a person..
You can also put a thermometer in a cup of water en try to freeze it, maybe it won't freeze, but the tempeture will drop... Maybe after a very long time of hard practice u should be able to freeze water 
After u get used to cold, u can try to drop the tempeture in the room. Clear your mind, and visualize a blizzard in the room, that's getting bigger and bigger, feel the cold, see the tempeture dropping on a thermostat. See the molecules in the room slowing down.
U can make iceballs too with CK. First make a normal Psi ball (if u don't know how, just check out Xeojin's BIG psiball thread
). Then visualize the water element mixing with your psi ball feel or see a breeze and see the water freezing. Try to hear the sounds of the ice crackling as the water freezes. Picture it freezing little by little, and compiling into a ball of ice between your palms. After a few shots, u should feel a cold sphere in youre hands.And if you get the hang of it , try to cool a person..
You can also put a thermometer in a cup of water en try to freeze it, maybe it won't freeze, but the tempeture will drop... Maybe after a very long time of hard practice u should be able to freeze water
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I new a woman who could turn an entire room into ice by walking through the door.
really?
wow...do u know how?WOW Thierry...u kinda remind me of arwen coz each time i had a question she had the answer it's really great to meet someone like u
thanks for all the info....actually still the psiball isn't working with me....i guess i have to go back and start from scratch thanks again
n0 prob dude 
I hope u get results soon, PM then
I hope u get results soon, PM then
i sure will thanks...
Scorpion Spirit. Take my advice mate and spend your time doing something that is real and achievable. This stuff is all comic book a movie special effects stuff that is designed to keep the kiddies sucked in. Don't waste your life on this cobber. If you really look around you will find that there is not one so called psion here or anywhere else that can actually prove that it can be done.
Think about it.
Think about it.
Well said TO well said.
there is another way to turn eyes to water. cut up an onion..
but seriously folks.
there is a chemical way, without lowering temperature, read the mosquito coast, in it the protagonist uses chemicals, can't remember which ones, potassium, magnesium, the chemicals when thye react dear heat from whatever substance is running through it, so you have a vat of the chemicals, run the potion through pipes in a vat of water and the heat is drawn from the water, et voila, ice.
after i read the book i ran this by an old chemistry prof and he stated it was possible.
but seriously folks.
there is a chemical way, without lowering temperature, read the mosquito coast, in it the protagonist uses chemicals, can't remember which ones, potassium, magnesium, the chemicals when thye react dear heat from whatever substance is running through it, so you have a vat of the chemicals, run the potion through pipes in a vat of water and the heat is drawn from the water, et voila, ice.
after i read the book i ran this by an old chemistry prof and he stated it was possible.
QUOTE(TheOracle @ Feb 4 2005, 05:40 PM)
Scorpion Spirit. Take my advice mate and spend your time doing something that is real and achievable. This stuff is all comic book a movie special effects stuff that is designed to keep the kiddies sucked in. Don't waste your life on this cobber. If you really look around you will find that there is not one so called psion here or anywhere else that can actually prove that it can be done.
Think about it.
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Think about it.
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No, this guy doesn't know what he's saying...
Dude, Scorpion Spirit....TheOracle, and other Skeptics would like you to shut yourself from these 'comic books', shut yourself from learning about them, shut yourself from the Phenomenons, period!!
You should not let someone tell you what to believe in, or what not to believe in. Due to TheOracles ignorancy, he called the Phenomenons 'cobber' and furthermore insult it. You, Scorpion Spirit, should open your mind to everything...everyone has the right to learn about everything, think freely of what it is, and just acknowledge that phenomenons are part of this world, and Science will either prove them True or False, but surely it hasn't happened now...
Be knowing, open your mind to others, think of what others have to say...and if it includes insults like what TheOracle has to say, believe me...but, its just ignorant to do that...
The Phenomenons don't have to be your life, they don't have to be your research, but they can be knowing, you just need to know them, and know that they are unexplained and they are phenomenons...
Take my word of advice, from a firm Skeptical Believer, its your choice to believe psi or not...don't let anyone change your mind by posting and accusing a phenomenon as false, through what they call a statement...Psi is an unexplained mystery, and it will remain that way...
Open your mind to everything, don't shut yourself...learn from what you don't want to learn.
~Hailo
OMG, hailo! That was sooooooooooooooooooooo well said, and I agree 110%
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QUOTE(TheOracle @ Feb 4 2005, 05:40 PM)
Scorpion Spirit. Take my advice mate and spend your time doing something that is real and achievable. This stuff is all comic book a movie special effects stuff that is designed to keep the kiddies sucked in. Don't waste your life on this cobber. If you really look around you will find that there is not one so called psion here or anywhere else that can actually prove that it can be done.
Think about it.
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Think about it.
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No, this guy doesn't know what he's saying...
Dude, Scorpion Spirit....TheOracle, and other Skeptics would like you to shut yourself from these 'comic books', shut yourself from learning about them, shut yourself from the Phenomenons, period!!
You should not let someone tell you what to believe in, or what not to believe in. Due to TheOracles ignorancy, he called the Phenomenons 'cobber' and furthermore insult it. You, Scorpion Spirit, should open your mind to everything...everyone has the right to learn about everything, think freely of what it is, and just acknowledge that phenomenons are part of this world, and Science will either prove them True or False, but surely it hasn't happened now...
Be knowing, open your mind to others, think of what others have to say...and if it includes insults like what TheOracle has to say, believe me...but, its just ignorant to do that...
The Phenomenons don't have to be your life, they don't have to be your research, but they can be knowing, you just need to know them, and know that they are unexplained and they are phenomenons...
Take my word of advice, from a firm Skeptical Believer, its your choice to believe psi or not...don't let anyone change your mind by posting and accusing a phenomenon as false, through what they call a statement...Psi is an unexplained mystery, and it will remain that way...
Open your mind to everything, don't shut yourself...learn from what you don't want to learn.
~Hailo
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Nice speech, but err... it still doesn't change the fact that no-one here can actually do psionics and remotely prove anything when asked... remember it is a lot harder to prove something doesn't exist, than prove it does. Which is something all of the supposed psionists and people who believe in other 99.999999% not likely things love to hide behind...
Proof of something like crykinetics or pyrokinetics would be easy to obtain if you could really do it.
Is this a joke or this for real?
Well, if you're being serious, when you freeze a liquid, the particles stop moving, so it turns into a solid.
Well, if you're being serious, when you freeze a liquid, the particles stop moving, so it turns into a solid.
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Is this a joke or this for real?
Well, if you're being serious, when you freeze a liquid, the particles stop moving, so it turns into a solid.
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Well, if you're being serious, when you freeze a liquid, the particles stop moving, so it turns into a solid.
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Obviously considering his first post and the section he posted it in he's talking about how to do it using your mind...
I can turn water to ice without using any tools, without leaving my seat ...
I just remind my daughter to keep up with her chores...
hehehe
I just remind my daughter to keep up with her chores...
hehehe
QUOTE(Scorpion Spirit @ Feb 3 2005, 07:37 PM)
hey guyyyysss....HOW'S IT GOIN??it's been a long time i haven't posted here...but now i'm back and hoping to stay:lol: anywayz i was wondering about the issue of transforming water to ice...is it possible and if it is how can it be done?(methods of practice...)
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Uh, put it in the freezer....
QUOTE(PsycicPoida @ Feb 5 2005, 02:48 AM)
OMG, hailo! That was sooooooooooooooooooooo well said, and I agree 110%
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hehe, thank you so very much PsychicPoida
QUOTE(Richdog @ Feb 5 2005, 02:58 AM)
Nice speech, but err... it still doesn't change the fact that no-one here can actually do psionics and remotely prove anything when asked... remember it is a lot harder to prove something doesn't exist, than prove it does. Which is something all of the supposed psionists and people who believe in other 99.999999% not likely things love to hide behind...
Proof of something like crykinetics or pyrokinetics would be easy to obtain if you could really do it.
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Proof of something like crykinetics or pyrokinetics would be easy to obtain if you could really do it.
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Yes, I do know that. Psi is a phenomenon, and the true fact...that how phenomenons even became a phenomenon in the first place indicate that a certain series of events triggered the phenomenon as a true/false scenario.
I just want people to open themselves, and not to leave the phenomenon because they think it isn't true. I want people to learn what their opponent has to say, understand what the opponent is trying to say to you, and conclude your beliefs from there. If it is a skeptical or believers belief, it doesn't matter...but all that matters to me is to know that the phenomenon of Psi is not to be taken false, or taken true, but taken as something to be knowing of.
TheOracle was trying to tell ScorpianSpirit to go do something worth while....I mean, thats just wrong, he declared 'Psi' as a false phenomenon, when he doesn't realize that there was a reason the phenomenon even came to existance as a true/false scenario.
QUOTE(Thierry @ Feb 3 2005, 01:08 PM)
Yub there is a kenisis for that, its called Cryokinesis, control over ice n' stuff... But i guess it takes a long time be4 u'r able to turn water into ice.. U should first begin to hold icecubes and take colder showers so u get used to cold. then u can move on to the next step.
After u get used to cold, u can try to drop the tempeture in the room. Clear your mind, and visualize a blizzard in the room, that's getting bigger and bigger, feel the cold, see the tempeture dropping on a thermostat. See the molecules in the room slowing down.
U can make iceballs too with CK. First make a normal Psi ball (if u don't know how, just check out Xeojin's BIG psiball thread). Then visualize the water element mixing with your psi ball feel or see a breeze and see the water freezing. Try to hear the sounds of the ice crackling as the water freezes. Picture it freezing little by little, and compiling into a ball of ice between your palms. After a few shots, u should feel a cold sphere in youre hands.
And if you get the hang of it , try to cool a person..
You can also put a thermometer in a cup of water en try to freeze it, maybe it won't freeze, but the tempeture will drop... Maybe after a very long time of hard practice u should be able to freeze water
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After u get used to cold, u can try to drop the tempeture in the room. Clear your mind, and visualize a blizzard in the room, that's getting bigger and bigger, feel the cold, see the tempeture dropping on a thermostat. See the molecules in the room slowing down.
U can make iceballs too with CK. First make a normal Psi ball (if u don't know how, just check out Xeojin's BIG psiball thread
). Then visualize the water element mixing with your psi ball feel or see a breeze and see the water freezing. Try to hear the sounds of the ice crackling as the water freezes. Picture it freezing little by little, and compiling into a ball of ice between your palms. After a few shots, u should feel a cold sphere in youre hands.And if you get the hang of it , try to cool a person..
You can also put a thermometer in a cup of water en try to freeze it, maybe it won't freeze, but the tempeture will drop... Maybe after a very long time of hard practice u should be able to freeze water
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What will they think of next?
There is No such thing as cryokinesis....stop doing this or they will ban X-men and all the other comics I read since I was little....
QUOTE(Bio-Mage @ Feb 5 2005, 08:13 AM)
There is No such thing as cryokinesis....stop doing this or they will ban X-men and all the other comics I read since I was little....
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Thanks for your opinion.
QUOTE(Hailo_hellFIRE @ Feb 5 2005, 12:06 AM)
QUOTE(TheOracle @ Feb 4 2005, 05:40 PM)
Scorpion Spirit. Take my advice mate and spend your time doing something that is real and achievable. This stuff is all comic book a movie special effects stuff that is designed to keep the kiddies sucked in. Don't waste your life on this cobber. If you really look around you will find that there is not one so called psion here or anywhere else that can actually prove that it can be done.
Think about it.
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Think about it.
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No, this guy doesn't know what he's saying...
Dude, Scorpion Spirit....TheOracle, and other Skeptics would like you to shut yourself from these 'comic books', shut yourself from learning about them, shut yourself from the Phenomenons, period!!
You should not let someone tell you what to believe in, or what not to believe in. Due to TheOracles ignorancy, he called the Phenomenons 'cobber' and furthermore insult it. You, Scorpion Spirit, should open your mind to everything...everyone has the right to learn about everything, think freely of what it is, and just acknowledge that phenomenons are part of this world, and Science will either prove them True or False, but surely it hasn't happened now...
Be knowing, open your mind to others, think of what others have to say...and if it includes insults like what TheOracle has to say, believe me...but, its just ignorant to do that...
The Phenomenons don't have to be your life, they don't have to be your research, but they can be knowing, you just need to know them, and know that they are unexplained and they are phenomenons...
Take my word of advice, from a firm Skeptical Believer, its your choice to believe psi or not...don't let anyone change your mind by posting and accusing a phenomenon as false, through what they call a statement...Psi is an unexplained mystery, and it will remain that way...
Open your mind to everything, don't shut yourself...learn from what you don't want to learn.
~Hailo
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Unbelievably perfectly well said. All these threads asking for help have been turned into this, though we did have a small "era of peace"...
Now everything is back to debates on threads here people want to learn.
Yeah, people who r here to say 'blablablabla cryokinesis isn't real, leave this thread ... i mean why do u even bother if ya don't believe it ?
What if we actually USED zudo's debating thread, and let the skeptics have a war there with us, and then the help threads will not be overrun, as if the mongolions broke through the great wall of china.
I would make a video, but I don't have a webcam and even if I did it would be a waste of time because you would just accuse it of being fake!
So it is right to say that it cannot be proved over the net so just leave us alone until you get any real proof!
So it is right to say that it cannot be proved over the net so just leave us alone until you get any real proof!
QUOTE(PsycicPoida @ Feb 6 2005, 09:07 AM)
I would make a video, but I don't have a webcam and even if I did it would be a waste of time because you would just accuse it of being fake!
So it is right to say that it cannot be proved over the net so just leave us alone until you get any real proof!
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So it is right to say that it cannot be proved over the net so just leave us alone until you get any real proof!
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Maybe you should try me out with that video PsycicPoida.
Oh, and don't forget to buy the video camera with the blurry/out of focus lens like everyone else who makes the same claims as you.
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QUOTE(Bio-Mage @ Feb 5 2005, 08:13 AM)
There is No such thing as cryokinesis....stop doing this or they will ban X-men and all the other comics I read since I was little....
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Thanks for your opinion.
There is No such thing as cryokinesis....stop doing this or they will ban X-men and all the other comics I read since I was little....
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Thanks for your opinion.
Obviously not
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Yeah, people who r here to say 'blablablabla cryokinesis isn't real, leave this thread ... i mean why do u even bother if ya don't believe it ?wacko.gifwacko.gif
I am sorry but I have trouble with people going blah blah blah....I can do this and that with my super powers....you present no evidence and as such people are going to disagree. This forum is about presenting your ideas and discuss them. Just because you don't like what you read as a feedback that doesn't mean we have to leave the forum.
Cryokinesis would require of you to be able to decrease molecular movement by removing energy from it. How do you manage to absorb that energy into you? Do you feel or see signs of that transfer? Are you aware of the magnitute of energy required to alter temparature even for a single degree Celcius?
I loook forward to your comments....
QUOTE(PsycicPoida @ Feb 6 2005, 10:07 AM)
I would make a video, but I don't have a webcam and even if I did it would be a waste of time because you would just accuse it of being fake!
So it is right to say that it cannot be proved over the net so just leave us alone until you get any real proof!
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So it is right to say that it cannot be proved over the net so just leave us alone until you get any real proof!
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Hahaha that's funny. If you produced good video evidence and got some objective witnesses to oversee the test how could anyone call it fake? But oh wait let me guess... you can't do it under pressure or with anyone else present... it stifles your abilities?
I thought that this topic was about how to turn water in ice, not Cryokinesis isn't real
Umm...guys long ago during the old eras people thought the earth is flat while those who said the earth is round were mocked at...In our days we laugh at those who thought it was flat...and since history repeats itself...the same is happening now and just as they used to say prove the earth is roung and we won't believe it util it's proved....u r doing the same...and it took quite a time to make them believe just as it will take the people here to make u believe and although i don't have any special ability i can do i don't close my mind on the contrary i try to learn from those who can see more infos....and btw there is some proof...there is this one guy he comes on tv..is name is Michel Hayek i think and on every new year he predicts what he saw for the coming year and 90% of what he says comes true(not a coincedence every year) and then what about Nostrodamus?! yeah? haven't u heard about him and him predictions?theses things aren't new they have been going on for a long time....
And BTW i asked for help in this thread not a debate for if i wanted a debate i would have gave it a title called DEBATE about turning water 2 ice...so thanks for sharing ur opinins in all cases... and thanks for those trying 2 help
And BTW i asked for help in this thread not a debate for if i wanted a debate i would have gave it a title called DEBATE about turning water 2 ice...so thanks for sharing ur opinins in all cases...
and thanks for those trying 2 help
QUOTE(Thierry @ Feb 6 2005, 03:47 PM)
I thought that this topic was about how to turn water in ice, not Cryokinesis isn't real
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Well seeing as he means turning it into ice with the power of your mind...
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Umm...guys long ago during the old eras people thought the earth is flat while those who said the earth is round were mocked at...In our days we laugh at those who thought it was flat...and since history repeats itself...the same is happening now and just as they used to say prove the earth is roung and we won't believe it util it's proved....u r doing the same...and it took quite a time to make them believe just as it will take the people here to make u believe and although i don't have any special ability i can do i don't close my mind on the contrary i try to learn from those who can see more infos....and btw there is some proof...there is this one guy he comes on tv..is name is Michel Hayek i think and on every new year he predicts what he saw for the coming year and 90% of what he says comes true(not a coincedence every year) and then what about Nostrodamus?! yeah? haven't u heard about him and him predictions?theses things aren't new they have been going on for a long time....
And BTW i asked for help in this thread not a debate for if i wanted a debate i would have gave it a title called DEBATE about turning water 2 ice...so thanks for sharing ur opinins in all cases... grin2.gif tongue.gif and thanks for those trying 2 help original.gif
And BTW i asked for help in this thread not a debate for if i wanted a debate i would have gave it a title called DEBATE about turning water 2 ice...so thanks for sharing ur opinins in all cases... grin2.gif tongue.gif and thanks for those trying 2 help original.gif
And that proves that you can turn water to ice how exactly?.....I though your subject was cryokinesis....
just because theories where shot down in the past (and where eventually correct) that still does not mean you are right. By the way I am trying to help you, just read the little physics bit and try to work as to establish the existence of your "abilities" rather than take them for granted.
If you still think that the "don't want a debate" argument is doing you any favours then I rest my case
QUOTE(Bio-Mage @ Feb 6 2005, 04:38 AM)
I am sorry but I have trouble with people going blah blah blah....I can do this and that with my super powers....you present no evidence and as such people are going to disagree. This forum is about presenting your ideas and discuss them. Just because you don't like what you read as a feedback that doesn't mean we have to leave the forum.
Cryokinesis would require of you to be able to decrease molecular movement by removing energy from it. How do you manage to absorb that energy into you? Do you feel or see signs of that transfer? Are you aware of the magnitute of energy required to alter temparature even for a single degree Celcius?
I loook forward to your comments....
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Cryokinesis would require of you to be able to decrease molecular movement by removing energy from it. How do you manage to absorb that energy into you? Do you feel or see signs of that transfer? Are you aware of the magnitute of energy required to alter temparature even for a single degree Celcius?
I loook forward to your comments....
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It is an unexplained phenomenon, thank you for your input of possible explanations.
QUOTE(Bio-Mage @ Feb 6 2005, 07:15 AM)
And that proves that you can turn water to ice how exactly?.....I though your subject was cryokinesis.... just because theories where shot down in the past (and where eventually correct) that still does not mean you are right.
By the way I am trying to help you, just read the little physics bit and try to work as to establish the existence of your "abilities" rather than take them for granted.
If you still think that the "don't want a debate" argument is doing you any favours then I rest my case
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Cryokinesis was not shot down in the past, and cannot be prove true or false, but explaiend. just because theories where shot down in the past (and where eventually correct) that still does not mean you are right. By the way I am trying to help you, just read the little physics bit and try to work as to establish the existence of your "abilities" rather than take them for granted.
If you still think that the "don't want a debate" argument is doing you any favours then I rest my case
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And the sole motive of debating is to slap the opponent in the face with your logic, that is not what we want to do. We do not wish to try and prove the psychic phenomenon as a true phenomenon, but discuss it among the boards as something that exists in this world, and therefore learn about it.
QUOTE(Richdog @ Feb 6 2005, 06:50 AM)
Well seeing as he means turning it into ice with the power of your mind...
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However strange it seems, you did not read ScorpionSpritis post? The world was thought to be round, but skeptics mocked at it and said to themselves...it is not round, it is flat. Today, it is a definite Law that the world is round.
So in that situation, those who mocked were silented and the world was shown as a round sphere. You mock the Psychic Phenomenon...it is either true or false. You think its false due to the fact that we use a so called 'cryokinesis' through our minds? That is not opening yourself to new learnings and respecting the opposition.
Hey i didn't say i have the abilities and able 2 turn water 2 ice but i don't close my mind and refuse any thought ...i try 2 learn because i know that there are people who can do things if it is not CK it might be TK or PK or pregognition or something and if 1 can be done then then rest can be as well...
I think all this physic sh** is a bit far-fetched. If there really was these kinds of abilities, we would have tons of proof by now... I mean, whats holding all of your super-power people back from getting a damn camera, a GOOD,CLEAR,RELIABLE shot, and giving it to the news or something? Until I see proof, its completely made up bullshit in my eyes. But, If you want to waste your time f-ing around with things that will never happen, be my guest. Your just adding to the worlds wide collection of useless people 
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QUOTE(Bio-Mage @ Feb 6 2005, 04:38 AM)
I am sorry but I have trouble with people going blah blah blah....I can do this and that with my super powers....you present no evidence and as such people are going to disagree. This forum is about presenting your ideas and discuss them. Just because you don't like what you read as a feedback that doesn't mean we have to leave the forum.
Cryokinesis would require of you to be able to decrease molecular movement by removing energy from it. How do you manage to absorb that energy into you? Do you feel or see signs of that transfer? Are you aware of the magnitute of energy required to alter temparature even for a single degree Celcius?
I loook forward to your comments....
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Cryokinesis would require of you to be able to decrease molecular movement by removing energy from it. How do you manage to absorb that energy into you? Do you feel or see signs of that transfer? Are you aware of the magnitute of energy required to alter temparature even for a single degree Celcius?
I loook forward to your comments....
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It is an unexplained phenomenon, thank you for your input of possible explanations.
QUOTE(Bio-Mage @ Feb 6 2005, 07:15 AM)
And that proves that you can turn water to ice how exactly?.....I though your subject was cryokinesis.... just because theories where shot down in the past (and where eventually correct) that still does not mean you are right.
By the way I am trying to help you, just read the little physics bit and try to work as to establish the existence of your "abilities" rather than take them for granted.
If you still think that the "don't want a debate" argument is doing you any favours then I rest my case
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Cryokinesis was not shot down in the past, and cannot be prove true or false, but explaiend. just because theories where shot down in the past (and where eventually correct) that still does not mean you are right. By the way I am trying to help you, just read the little physics bit and try to work as to establish the existence of your "abilities" rather than take them for granted.
If you still think that the "don't want a debate" argument is doing you any favours then I rest my case
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And the sole motive of debating is to slap the opponent in the face with your logic, that is not what we want to do. We do not wish to try and prove the psychic phenomenon as a true phenomenon, but discuss it among the boards as something that exists in this world, and therefore learn about it.
QUOTE(Richdog @ Feb 6 2005, 06:50 AM)
Well seeing as he means turning it into ice with the power of your mind...
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However strange it seems, you did not read ScorpionSpritis post? The world was thought to be round, but skeptics mocked at it and said to themselves...it is not round, it is flat. Today, it is a definite Law that the world is round.
So in that situation, those who mocked were silented and the world was shown as a round sphere. You mock the Psychic Phenomenon...it is either true or false. You think its false due to the fact that we use a so called 'cryokinesis' through our minds? That is not opening yourself to new learnings and respecting the opposition.
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Hailo as usual I know you mean well, but to mke you fall into the category of the believers who will defend and believe anything, no matter how silly, with examples that aren't really relevent.
Please explain how olden day folks without any sort of advanced technology thinking the world was flat, compares to a kid in his bedroom attempting to turn water to ice with his mind. I'm not saying that at some point mankind may not reach a psionic level, but not yet, our brain has balrely changed in thousands and thousands of years, I believe it would take more hundreds of thousands before potent psionic abilities begin to manifest themselves.
You may love to believe blindly with no shred evidence or likelihood whatsoever... but some of us don't.
I would put money on the belief that every person on this forum who claims to have psychic powers... doesn't. I think it's all self-trickery and belief.
I wanted to do the water in the freezer joke.
Do you believers do not find it odd that only children >17 practise this stuff?
An every one has failed to deliver evidence? every human failed.
An every one has failed to deliver evidence? every human failed.
Have any of you skeptics actually taken the time and look for evidence on the internet. They are out there. For example
http://www.angeltowns.com/members/psimedia/Videos.html
http://www.angeltowns.com/members/psimedia/Videos.html
QUOTE(Richdog @ Feb 6 2005, 11:20 AM)
Hailo as usual I know you mean well, but to mke you fall into the category of the believers who will defend and believe anything, no matter how silly, with examples that aren't really relevent.
Please explain how olden day folks without any sort of advanced technology thinking the world was flat, compares to a kid in his bedroom attempting to turn water to ice with his mind. I'm not saying that at some point mankind may not reach a psionic level, but not yet, our brain has balrely changed in thousands and thousands of years, I believe it would take more hundreds of thousands before potent psionic abilities begin to manifest themselves.
You may love to believe blindly with no shred evidence or likelihood whatsoever... but some of us don't.
I would put money on the belief that every person on this forum who claims to have psychic powers... doesn't. I think it's all self-trickery and belief.
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Please explain how olden day folks without any sort of advanced technology thinking the world was flat, compares to a kid in his bedroom attempting to turn water to ice with his mind. I'm not saying that at some point mankind may not reach a psionic level, but not yet, our brain has balrely changed in thousands and thousands of years, I believe it would take more hundreds of thousands before potent psionic abilities begin to manifest themselves.
You may love to believe blindly with no shred evidence or likelihood whatsoever... but some of us don't.
I would put money on the belief that every person on this forum who claims to have psychic powers... doesn't. I think it's all self-trickery and belief.
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Yeah, but there is more too it than 'blind belief'. I don't want to shut myself from the Psychic Phenomenon. I've seen it happen in videos, there are like a ton of sites giving tips and tricks, and the biggest one would be this question, "Why would these people support the Psychic Phenomenon in the first place?" And I mainly came to the conclusion is that, they for some reason experienced it themselves. I can't just turn away and refuse it as false, its like denying trust to everything around me.
I too would put my money to a possible fact that no one on these boards can use these phychic abilities, but then again, i'm to hesitant to do so. I don't want to wage my money, in trying to prove something is false...because that won't nesassarilly prove it false, but embarass a couple of kids. I would, however, wage my money...all of it, if someone in the world can pull off the greatest, awe-spiring psychic technique.
But until the world remains unfit to accept this phenomenon as unexplained, true or false, I will go with unexplained
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I told about that guy who gets visions and 90% from them come true...NOT ENOUGH? okayz...Nostradamus? still not convinced what about that russian monk...ummm...Rusputin (i think) why don't u guys research these guys and u'll find plenty more people who proved it....
Okayz wez dun our rezearch can u plz stop speakin in txt speak now plz
Anyway, their visions were mostly inaccurate, and have nothing to do with turning ice to water...
Anyway, their visions were mostly inaccurate, and have nothing to do with turning ice to water...
so u just admited that: they used to have visions = a psi phenomena = psi exists
thank u...u just helped me complete my formula
if 1 form exists then there is a possibility for another 2 exist
thank u...u just helped me complete my formula
if 1 form exists then there is a possibility for another 2 exist
Astrocreep, that's evidence of TK, not CK ...
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