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Stellar
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Because, as I said before, I don't want my mom freaking out on me.


Right... thats not a good excuse.

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And I never said 'superpowers.'


I know you didnt. Someone who claims to have laser vision might not say its a superpower... but I consider it along the lines of a superpower.

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And I'm no high on anything, nor do I take any medication unless you count my inhaler that I haven't used since the beginning of 6th grade (in 8th now).


You are a child, as I suspected. You're jumping to conclusions and making a mountain out of a mole... thats my opinion.

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No offense, but think? I say know.


I say imagine.

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You'd be surprised aobut how many people that you could know that may have psi abilities, unless you lvie ina really dull or small town or something like that.


Oh yeah... like my 8 year old brother for example? Or his 6 year old friend? Hey, they have invisible friends too!
DaKong
QUOTE(Stellar @ Feb 27 2005, 11:18 PM)
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Because, as I said before, I don't want my mom freaking out on me.


Right... thats not a good excuse.

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And I never said 'superpowers.'


I know you didnt. Someone who claims to have laser vision might not say its a superpower... but I consider it along the lines of a superpower.

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And I'm no high on anything, nor do I take any medication unless you count my inhaler that I haven't used since the beginning of 6th grade (in 8th now).


You are a child, as I suspected. You're jumping to conclusions and making a mountain out of a mole... thats my opinion.

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No offense, but think? I say know.


I say imagine.

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You'd be surprised aobut how many people that you could know that may have psi abilities, unless you lvie ina really dull or small town or something like that.


Oh yeah... like my 8 year old brother for example? Or his 6 year old friend? Hey, they have invisible friends too!
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Stellar, I've tried to be calm and nice to you, but it seems that you just don't care about other people's feelings, eh?

If you were me you'd know these things were real. Yeah, like I'd want to imagine my girlfirend getting raped.

And it's not an excuse. I really don't want my mom freaking out on me

Heh, teens these days aren't exactly as immature as you think we are.

Be nice to me and I'll be nice to you, cuz I know about that little incident in 4th grade. And I do know about it.

You call me immature?! You're the one abusing me personally as well as emotionally, when I've been calm and nice to you!
Stellar
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Stellar, I've tried to be calm and nice to you, but it seems that you just don't care about other people's feelings, eh?


Oh, Im sorry... I didnt know that I wasnt allowed to have an opinion in which you're not always right!

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If you were me you'd know these things were real. Yeah, like I'd want to imagine my girlfirend getting raped.


I imagined myself getting shot at, attacked by people with knives, all sorts of things... so?

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And it's not an excuse. I really don't want my mom freaking out on me


I didnt say its not an excuse, I said its a poor excuse.

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Heh, teens these days aren't exactly as immature as you think we are.


Thats what they always say. Even if their not so immature, they still have big imaginations.

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Be nice to me and I'll be nice to you, cuz I know about that little incident in 4th grade. And I do know about it.


Little incident in 4th grade?

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You call me immature?! You're the one abusing me personally as well as emotionally, when I've been calm and nice to you!


You've got to work on your comprehension skills. I didnt say anywhere there that you were immature... and Im sorry if my opinion is "abusing" you personally... but I'm not gonna change my mind just because you dont like my opinion.
DaKong
QUOTE(Stellar @ Feb 28 2005, 12:01 AM)
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If you were me you'd know these things were real. Yeah, like I'd want to imagine my girlfirend getting raped.


I imagined myself getting shot at, attacked by people with knives, all sorts of things... so?

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Well now, where should I begin?

They say a guy will never know the pain a girl goes through in rape. Let's see... you're sixteen... look kinda like Amy-Lee from Evanescence... in high school... you're outside alone in the night... a guy walks up to you and says 'Hey Amy-Lee. You're looking beautiful today...' then smiles and pull out a knife....

You're lead into a tiled room kinda like the YMCA showers... you get thrown down on the floor as the guy gets started on you...


[I will not describe that feeling because I could have died that day.]


You know it's the end... you can feel it in your body... [yes, I know what she was feeling at the time. it's another thing that coincides with the clairvoyancy that I wish would leave me forever] everything sucks now... your life is at an utter end... no one is there to stop you... tears flow and they don't stop as he advances on you...

[Not gonna say what happened because she made me swear not to get too far into detalis.]

You hear a yell... another guy tackles the rapist on the ground... at once you feel releaved but inside you are screaming in pain...


You see what I mean? Stellar, read that and tell me if you think I'm imagining things when 1) I'm not on drugs 2) I'm on no medication except for an inhaler and 3) the only psychological problem I have migrains.

Read this over and think for a sec if you actually believe that some of us want these powers and I'm not jsut imagining it. I 'see' it as if it's happening right then and there. I saw it in her eyes, and oh God Almighty I could have killed myself seeing her in pain. I care for her [awww kong's got a gf blush.gif mad.gif ] and if you really think I'd even have the slightest interest in making images of her in pain then you're sadly mistaken. I can't go to sleep anymore because I'm still haunted by the images. I don't care about anything anymore because in a few years she'll be in pain and I may not be there to save her.
Stellar
You dreamt that? When, before or after she told you about it?

The Roswell Man
QUOTE(Stellar @ Feb 28 2005, 05:34 PM)
You dreamt that? When, before or after she told you about it?
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*seperates the two children in the playground, and tells them to kiss and make up tongue.gif grin2.gif *
The Skeptic Eric Raven
Da kong. You still can't get that logical people require proof. Stop making claims unless your willing to back it up. Otherwise your BS'ing.
DaKong
QUOTE(Stellar @ Feb 28 2005, 12:34 PM)
You dreamt that? When, before or after she told you about it?
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Oh man, let me clear some things up.

This is what happened. I was looking up some informaiton on werewolves (wrewolves are awesome! grin2.gif ), and I started readign about the history of werewrolves. When I got to the part where the dude who was a big figure in werewolf history (go to myths and cryptozoology, cuz that's where all my research is if ya wanna know the story) would rape and kill the young girls he captured, I thought I heard my friend crying. I knew that it was impossible, cuz she wasn't evern near me then. However, when I blinked my eyes I was outside at night and I saw her (she's gonna look so much like Amy-Lee when she's in high school... blush.gif blush.gif blush.gif ) woking along soem high school. That's when the guy came up behind her and forced her into the place and into a tiled room that looks like the YMCA showers. Then the guy got started on her.

I don't remember who did it or who the guy was who pushed him off of her, except that I had never seen the rapist I remember that and that I was shocked when I saw the guy who pushed him off of her. Then, when she felt relieved, the vision ended and I saw that the internet was disconnected.

I can't sleep well at night because of those memories of her in pain. If you've ever seen someone you love in pain that way, then you'd be haunted day and night about those images. Sorry if I implied that I had dreamed about it. Didn't mean it that way.

I'm not mad. Just scared for her... no.gif crying.gif unsure.gif
Stellar
And THAT you consider clairvoyance? Maybe you'd have more of a case if it actually happened, and happened like that... but thats nothing special at all. Hell, not to insult you, but some cases of mental disorder are like that. Im not saying you have a mental disorder, Im just saying that its possible to experience something like that without having superpowers...
DaKong
QUOTE(Stellar @ Feb 28 2005, 07:28 PM)
And THAT you consider clairvoyance? Maybe you'd have more of a case if it actually happened, and happened like that... but thats nothing special at all. Hell, not to insult you, but some cases of mental disorder are like that. Im not saying you have a mental disorder, Im just saying that its possible to experience something like that without having superpowers...
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I've also seen my friends get in car crashes, attempt suicide, and I already know that Max will die in her 40's. And, I don't know if you've read the past threads, but the first vision I ever had involved my friend in a 6-car pile-up, and she got in one not long after that. One of my friends attempted suicide, though he couldn't bring himself to bring the knife down, so there's another one.
Stellar
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I've also seen my friends get in car crashes, attempt suicide, and I already know that Max will die in her 40's.


Oh really? How do you know that?

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And, I don't know if you've read the past threads, but the first vision I ever had involved my friend in a 6-car pile-up, and she got in one not long after that.


It happened exactly as you "saw" it? Was she a bad driver?

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One of my friends attempted suicide, though he couldn't bring himself to bring the knife down, so there's another one.


Lots of people attempt suicide in that sense.
DaKong
Just so ya know, my friends and I are all 13-14, so I doubt that Nikki can drive yet, and trust me, Tommy's never attempted suicide in his life, but he wuz having a really bad day that day so c'mon ya can't get mad at me there. I saw Max lying a in a coffin and she looked 40 but, as you said, how the hell do I know that I'm some psychopath liek you believe I am? Hmm?
Stellar
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Just so ya know, my friends and I are all 13-14, so I doubt that Nikki can drive yet


Then whoever usually drives her...

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Tommy's never attempted suicide in his life, but he wuz having a really bad day that day so c'mon ya can't get mad at me there.


Umm... I doubt anyone would commit suicide if it wasnt for them having a really bad day...

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I saw Max lying a in a coffin and she looked 40 but, as you said, how the hell do I know that I'm some psychopath liek you believe I am? Hmm?


Maybe you are? Have you considered that as a possibility?
DaKong
QUOTE(Stellar @ Feb 28 2005, 08:19 PM)
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Just so ya know, my friends and I are all 13-14, so I doubt that Nikki can drive yet


Then whoever usually drives her...

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Tommy's never attempted suicide in his life, but he wuz having a really bad day that day so c'mon ya can't get mad at me there.


Umm... I doubt anyone would commit suicide if it wasnt for them having a really bad day...

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I saw Max lying a in a coffin and she looked 40 but, as you said, how the hell do I know that I'm some psychopath liek you believe I am? Hmm?


Maybe you are? Have you considered that as a possibility?
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Yes, I have considered that as a possibility. I recently went to a therapist and she says that I'm fine and have no mental illnesses whatsoever. Tommy was the one I saw attempt suicide in the sight, and he really has, and the doctor says that the scars will be there for life. Nikki's mom drives her, and she has had no alcohol abuse, drug abuse, etc that could make her get into a car crash. Trust me, when Nikki comes to school her mom is really paranoid about crashes and all...

Oh, and the song attached is the same one that Tommy was listening to when he cut himself. Yeah, so Evanescence is a little gothic. So shoot me.
Stellar
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I recently went to a therapist and she says that I'm fine and have no mental illnesses whatsoever.


Now wait untill you're older, go back to her, and ask her what she thinks about your "clairvoyance"

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Tommy was the one I saw attempt suicide in the sight, and he really has, and the doctor says that the scars will be there for life.


Scars?

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Nikki's mom drives her, and she has had no alcohol abuse, drug abuse, etc that could make her get into a car crash. Trust me, when Nikki comes to school her mom is really paranoid about crashes and all...


Was this before the crash too?

DaKong
QUOTE(Stellar @ Feb 28 2005, 09:55 PM)
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I recently went to a therapist and she says that I'm fine and have no mental illnesses whatsoever.


Now wait untill you're older, go back to her, and ask her what she thinks about your "clairvoyance"

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Tommy was the one I saw attempt suicide in the sight, and he really has, and the doctor says that the scars will be there for life.


Scars?

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Nikki's mom drives her, and she has had no alcohol abuse, drug abuse, etc that could make her get into a car crash. Trust me, when Nikki comes to school her mom is really paranoid about crashes and all...


Was this before the crash too?
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Yep, it was before the crash and she's even more paranoid today.

Tommy cut himself repeatedly before deciding to stab himself in the heart, which he just couldn't do.
seeking
ok this is why i believe you are lying

1)what kind of freind would openly discuss his freinds trying to commit suicide, being raped, dying in a car crash? especially being raped, i WOULD NEVER SPEAK OF THAT TO ANYONE TO PROVE PSI OR NOT, I WOULDNT EVEN DO THAT FOR MONEY

2)you seem to have a lot of freinds who seem to have a lot of bad luck, i know a lot of people, not one of them has died dramatically, perhaps im lucky, or perhaps your lying? i did have one suicidal freind however he has grown out of that stage

3)you keep stressing over this, 8 pages now, personally i would have just said f*** it and let stellar think he was right, but you keep trying to convince stellar you have these abilities, im a very good artists however ive never had to prove it, never felt the need to prove it and yet everyone i know, knows, are you trying to brag you have these abilities? it can only be 1 of 2 answers
a) yes you are trying to brag you have powers...even though you cant stand them (becasue you can see others pain according to you)
b)no you dont have powers and you are trying to appear special to a bunch of people on an internet board who have no real meaning to your life (pretty pathetic)

4) the last reason i think your lying is your only what 13? maybe 14? what do you really know of the real world, what do you really know of science?

you know what i think im phsicic t

but i picture you as one of the rejects in middle school, you know the type, were the only girls that like you are the nerdy ugly ones, and its strickly on a freind status, you got a select few close friends, tommy and nikki are probably it (which is not bad i have 2 close freinds only), and you sit at your table at lunch and no one talks to you, maybe theres a bully that picks on your clique, am i right????

anyway, fronting you have super powers is lame to the extreme, find a new hobbie, or create a new user name and start fresh

DaKong
QUOTE(seeking @ Feb 28 2005, 10:31 PM)
ok this is why i believe you are lying

1)what kind of freind would openly discuss his freinds trying to commit suicide, being raped, dying in a car crash? especially being raped, i WOULD NEVER SPEAK OF THAT TO ANYONE TO PROVE PSI OR NOT, I WOULDNT EVEN DO THAT FOR MONEY

2)you seem to have a lot of freinds who seem to have a lot of bad luck, i know a lot of people, not one of them has died dramatically, perhaps im lucky, or perhaps your lying? i did have one suicidal freind however he has grown out of that stage

3)you keep stressing over this, 8 pages now, personally i would have just said f*** it and let stellar think he was right, but you keep trying to convince stellar you have these abilities, im a very good artists however ive never had to prove it, never felt the need to prove it and yet everyone i know, knows, are you trying to brag you have these abilities? it can only be 1 of 2 answers
    a) yes you are trying to brag you have powers...even though you  cant stand them (becasue you can see others pain according to you)
    b)no you dont have powers and you are trying to appear special to  a bunch of people on an internet board who have no real meaning to your life (pretty pathetic)

4) the last reason i think your lying is your only what 13? maybe 14? what do you really know of the real world, what do you really know of science?

you know what i think im phsicic t

but i picture you as one of the rejects in middle school, you know the type, were the only girls that like you are the nerdy ugly ones, and its strickly on a freind status, you got a select few close friends, tommy and nikki are probably it (which is not bad i have 2 close freinds only), and you sit at your table at lunch and no one talks to you, maybe theres a bully that picks on your clique, am i right????

anyway, fronting you have super powers is lame to the extreme, find a new hobbie, or create a new user name and start fresh
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Well, sorry seeking if I don't fit your description of a 'friend,' but for God's sake it was her idea in the beginning.

Why would I lie about these things? To get attention? Because that's some sucky (pardon my language) attention that I don't want.

I feel insulted by the way you say that I 'brag.' Why would I want to brag about pain this way... and why would anyone fake it? I've been trying to be nice to you guys but noooo you just spit in my face and say 'oh he's just a little immature kid. Kid's can't possibly know about this.'

Actually, I'm not one of the nerdy kids, but nor am I one of the most popular (thank God for that one, cuz too much popularity is bad for a 12-year old going into high school). I do have a group of friends and we talk about each others problems, and they wre the ones who even told me about this place and said that I needed to seek to help here (now that I think about it... what the hell were they thinking if I would've known that I would have run into you people). I even asked for their permission to tell this stuff on-line because I'm not that kind of guy.

Pretty bad way to feel special, eh?

The only bullies here are you two.
Stellar
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Yep, it was before the crash and she's even more paranoid today.


Well then there you go.

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2)you seem to have a lot of freinds who seem to have a lot of bad luck, i know a lot of people, not one of them has died dramatically, perhaps im lucky, or perhaps your lying? i did have one suicidal freind however he has grown out of that stage


I know eh? Looks like he lives in a pretty messed up place if he's telling the truth.

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but i picture you as one of the rejects in middle school, you know the type, were the only girls that like you are the nerdy ugly ones, and its strickly on a freind status, you got a select few close friends, tommy and nikki are probably it (which is not bad i have 2 close freinds only), and you sit at your table at lunch and no one talks to you, maybe theres a bully that picks on your clique, am i right????


He definitly sounds like one of those... always saying how one of them (didnt he mention she's his gf?) is going to look like Amy Lee or whoever... and he keeps repeating that in what looks like an effort to convince me/us.
DaKong
QUOTE(Stellar @ Feb 28 2005, 11:34 PM)
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Yep, it was before the crash and she's even more paranoid today.


Well then there you go.

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2)you seem to have a lot of freinds who seem to have a lot of bad luck, i know a lot of people, not one of them has died dramatically, perhaps im lucky, or perhaps your lying? i did have one suicidal freind however he has grown out of that stage


I know eh? Looks like he lives in a pretty messed up place if he's telling the truth.

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but i picture you as one of the rejects in middle school, you know the type, were the only girls that like you are the nerdy ugly ones, and its strickly on a freind status, you got a select few close friends, tommy and nikki are probably it (which is not bad i have 2 close freinds only), and you sit at your table at lunch and no one talks to you, maybe theres a bully that picks on your clique, am i right????


He definitly sounds like one of those... always saying how one of them (didnt he mention she's his gf?) is going to look like Amy Lee or whoever... and he keeps repeating that in what looks like an effort to convince me/us.
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I have never felt more insulted in all my life. Thanks alot. You too just made my day.

Actually, I'm not one of the rejects, and I'm considered one of the lucky ones in my school, since I have had some girls (no, not the geeky ones angry.gif ) know if I'm single or not...

My life was great. I used to love it until the first one happened. My life was so awesome, I made good grades, was moderately popular, but then the first one came along and it's gone downhill from there.

Ya know what? Maybe I do live in a messed-up place (Jacksonville, site of the super-bowl) and proud of it. Yah, we've had alot of bad luck, but let's just say that the 'friendship tree' is the only thing that keeps me around today.
Stellar
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Actually, I'm not one of the rejects, and I'm considered one of the lucky ones in my school, since I have had some girls (no, not the geeky ones angry.gif ) know if I'm single or not...


I didnt call you a reject... I simply think you sound a bit like you're one of those people who only have a few friends they hang out with and most of the good looking girls dont notice you.


DaKong
QUOTE(Stellar @ Feb 28 2005, 11:53 PM)
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Actually, I'm not one of the rejects, and I'm considered one of the lucky ones in my school, since I have had some girls (no, not the geeky ones angry.gif ) know if I'm single or not...


I didnt call you a reject... I simply think you sound a bit like you're one of those people who only have a few friends they hang out with and most of the good looking girls dont notice you.
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Okay! Sorry, took it the wrong way... and for some reason the good-looking girls know my name from somewere (don't mean to brag if I sound like it), but they're all snobs at my school anywayz, and I do kinda have a variety of friends... you could say I'm the 'interpreter' between the skateboarders and the little clique that my really close friends do have... laugh.gif
seeking
good looking girls are snobs in middleschool, they think cuz they hit puberty early that they are gods gift, also popular girls need to know the rejects just as much as the jocks, they need to know who to stay away from

and aside from that, you are the what i like to call the "middle man" like you said the link between the skateboard scene and the whatever other scene you were describing, so basically you are half and half, and cliques dont tend to like people who arent 100% like them, ESSPECIALLY in middle school, your either in or out, no inbetween, theyare prolly just being nice to you

just register a new name allready, like all the others like you who have tried an failed in the past
fadinginnocence
Wow i really must say Stellar you are not a very nice person and i predictict you becoming one of those mean little men that children and dogs are afraid of and seeking you are so right about girls in middle school but i really dont think they ever grow out of it really cause i know grown women who act just as petty and stuck up as middle school kids
The Skeptic Eric Raven
Maybe we are sick and tired of all these freaking pschic claims. For God's sake, stop making claims if you can't back it up. Stellar is not being mean. He, like me is just fed up with the BS that happens with all the little kids that travel on this board. angry.gif
Stellar
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Wow i really must say Stellar you are not a very nice person and i predictict you becoming one of those mean little men that children and dogs are afraid of


Maybe if I thought your predictions meant anything, I'd be worried.
_hAiLO_
QUOTE(ericraven2003 @ Mar 1 2005, 12:39 PM)
Maybe we are sick and tired of all these freaking pschic claims. For God's sake, stop making claims if you can't back it up. Stellar is not being mean. He, like me is just fed up with the BS that happens with all the little kids that travel on this board. angry.gif
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Maybe if you proved that these young psychics were lying, we wouldn't have so much BS coming from a certain persons mouth rolleyes.gif .

Maybe you can give me a more specific reason as to why people would lie about them being psychic besides the weak accusation of them 'wanting power'. Asking questions and providing answers does not imply the definite need for power.
Stellar
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Maybe if you proved that these young psychics were lying, we wouldn't have so much BS coming from a certain persons mouth


Prove that theres no pink elephant on my front yard.

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Maybe you can give me a more specific reason as to why people would lie about them being psychic besides the weak accusation of them 'wanting power'. Asking questions and providing answers does not imply the definite need for power.


Because they've got imaginations and are children? Why does a child have imaginary friends?
DaKong
QUOTE(seeking @ Mar 1 2005, 01:06 AM)
good looking girls are snobs in middleschool, they think cuz they hit puberty early that they are gods gift, also popular girls need to know the rejects just as much as the jocks, they need to know who to stay away from

and aside from that, you are the what i like to call the "middle man" like you said the link between the skateboard scene and the whatever other scene you were describing, so basically you are half and half, and cliques dont tend to like people who arent 100% like them, ESSPECIALLY in middle school, your either in or out, no inbetween, theyare prolly just being nice to you
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happy.gif Thanks. happy.gif
I've kinda always felt that way, to tell ya the truth...
DaKong
QUOTE(Hailo_hellFIRE @ Mar 1 2005, 10:43 PM)
Maybe you can give me a more specific reason as to why people would lie about them being psychic besides the weak accusation of them 'wanting power'. Asking questions and providing answers does not imply the definite need for power.
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That's what I've trying to be telling these people since I got on these forums.
nightcat
...sigh..... I hope this forum gets closed soon. disgust.gif It's so annoying when certain people just argue back and forth. sleepy.gif


*Sometimes people just can't prove things but doesn't mean that their just saying stuff.
DaKong
QUOTE(Stellar @ Mar 1 2005, 11:39 PM)
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Maybe if you proved that these young psychics were lying, we wouldn't have so much BS coming from a certain persons mouth


Prove that theres no pink elephant on my front yard.

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Maybe you can give me a more specific reason as to why people would lie about them being psychic besides the weak accusation of them 'wanting power'. Asking questions and providing answers does not imply the definite need for power.


Because they've got imaginations and are children? Why does a child have imaginary friends?
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Oh, for God's sake, man, you are 17 or probably 18 by the birthday I saw one your profile, so in grades we are not that far apart.

You still didn't answer the question of why I would want this kind of 'power' in the first place. I think it's kinda bad 'power,' don't ya think?

If I were to fake I'd say that I could do something cool and worthwile, e.g. I've always wanted pyrokinesis, but am I lying about that? No, I'm not, and personally I could care less about this kind of clairvoyance because of the terrible images of friends in pain.

DaKong

P.S. I will gladly prove to you why there are no pink elephants in you front yard. There's no such thing, but, I know that you're going to say 'but they're is no such thing as having psychic powers, either,' so that throws that idea out.
DaKong
QUOTE(nightcat @ Mar 2 2005, 12:01 AM)
...sigh..... I hope this forum gets closed soon.  disgust.gif It's so annoying when certain people just argue back and forth. sleepy.gif


*Sometimes people just can't prove things but doesn't mean that their just saying stuff.
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This is going to sound really ironic for me but it's actually kinda fun debating this. huh.gif hmm.gif wacko.gif

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Stellar
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You still didn't answer the question of why I would want this kind of 'power' in the first place. I think it's kinda bad 'power,' don't ya think?


But it makes you different from the others. It makes you special. Hell, how can I even be sure you dont actually WANT that power, but are using a negative aspect of it to try and convince yourself and others that you really have it?

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I will gladly prove to you why there are no pink elephants in you front yard. There's no such thing, but, I know that you're going to say 'but they're is no such thing as having psychic powers, either,' so that throws that idea out.


Oh no? Theres no such thing as a pink elephant? Prove it.


_hAiLO_
QUOTE(Stellar @ Mar 1 2005, 07:39 PM)
Prove that theres no pink elephant on my front yard.
I don't have to, I never said there was one. The psychic phenomenon is unexplained, these people are discussing this phenomenon through ask-and-answer, they are exploring it. Maybe you should be the one proving something.
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Because they've got imaginations and are children? Why does a child have imaginary friends?
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You've got imagination, and i'm not accusing you of anything. These people, stating stories that are so unbelievable that you would rather shut your doors to every possibility of their credibility, tell me why I shouldn't believe in them.

And who ever said these children had imaginary friends...since when did children with imaginary friends aquire the ability of typing? Imaginary friends are for those who seek love and confort, not answers and assistence as these people are doing with the phenomenon.

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*Sometimes people just can't prove things but doesn't mean that their just saying stuff.
I'm sorry for the inconvenience...maybe this thread should be closed. After all, skeptics did come in and disturb the discussion of the 'Young Psychics' thread by mocking it.
Stellar
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I don't have to, I never said there was one.


Ahh, so you're saying that those who make the claim have to prove it?

Well, I was going for a response of "I cant prove a negative" from you... but what you said is a shortcut to the same end.

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The psychic phenomenon is unexplained, these people are discussing this phenomenon through ask-and-answer, they are exploring it. Maybe you should be the one proving something.


Why? You just said that you dont have to prove that a pink elephant exists/doesnt exist because you didnt make the claim...

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You've got imagination, and i'm not accusing you of anything. These people, stating stories that are so unbelievable that you would rather shut your doors to every possibility of their credibility, tell me why I shouldn't believe in them.


Because their powers and explenations defy science as we know it... because they're children and children are prone to overactive imaginations... because they claim they have it yet conveniently find excuses not to prove it? Because you shouldnt believe everything you hear?

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And who ever said these children had imaginary friends...since when did children with imaginary friends aquire the ability of typing? Imaginary friends are for those who seek love and confort, not answers and assistence as these people are doing with the phenomenon.


Imaginary friends are the first step... the next is something along the lines of psi powers. Hell, I pretended to be a cyborg for christs sake. I could type also, btw.

DaKong
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You still didn't answer the question of why I would want this kind of 'power' in the first place. I think it's kinda bad 'power,' don't ya think?


But it makes you different from the others. It makes you special. Hell, how can I even be sure you dont actually WANT that power, but are using a negative aspect of it to try and convince yourself and others that you really have it?
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Wow I never thought of it that way... too bad cuz you can believe what you want but it's not true about me.

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I will gladly prove to you why there are no pink elephants in you front yard. There's no such thing, but, I know that you're going to say 'but they're is no such thing as having psychic powers, either,' so that throws that idea out.


Oh no? Theres no such thing as a pink elephant? Prove it.


Prove that that there is.
And I'd think that you'd notice if there were pink elephants in your yard. If not it would be... just... plain... freaky...


DaKong
QUOTE(Stellar @ Mar 2 2005, 12:36 AM)
Imaginary friends are the first step... the next is something along the lines of psi powers. Hell, I pretended to be a cyborg for christs sake. I could type also, btw.
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FYI I have never had an imaginary friend in my life. Oh, and they do have scientific evidence that psi exists. Btw, go to Google and do a search about it. Hope you like the results.
Stellar
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Prove that that there is.


Why should I prove it?

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And I'd think that you'd notice if there were pink elephants in your yard. If not it would be... just... plain... freaky...


I did notice a pink elephant. What? Why dont you believe me? You cant disprove it.
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FYI I have never had an imaginary friend in my life. Oh, and they do have scientific evidence that psi exists. Btw, go to Google and do a search about it. Hope you like the results.



FYI, no, they dont. Thats a large reason for why that 1 million $ is still available for evidence.
DaKong
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Prove that that there is.


Why should I prove it?

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And I'd think that you'd notice if there were pink elephants in your yard. If not it would be... just... plain... freaky...


I did notice a pink elephant. What? Why dont you believe me? You cant disprove it.
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Did anyone else notice one? I don't think so. As you said, I must have an over-active imagination, but your not much older then me, so if I can "imagine" these things, then how do I know that you're not "imagining" the pink elephant?

P.S. Pink elephant... hehe...
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Did anyone else notice one? I don't think so.


Yes infact, someone else did.

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As you said, I must have an over-active imagination, but your not much older then me, so if I can "imagine" these things, then how do I know that you're not "imagining" the pink elephant?


While 3-4 years difference might not seem like much, it is when you're comparing young teen to an older one.
DaKong
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Did anyone else notice one? I don't think so.


Yes infact, someone else did.

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Prove it.

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While 3-4 years difference might not seem like much, it is when you're comparing young teen to an older one.

Uh-huh. Whatever.
nightcat
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You've got imagination, and i'm not accusing you of anything. These people, stating stories that are so unbelievable that you would rather shut your doors to every possibility of their credibility, tell me why I shouldn't believe in them.


Because their powers and explenations defy science as we know it... because they're children and children are prone to overactive imaginations... because they claim they have it yet conveniently find excuses not to prove it? Because you shouldnt believe everything you hear?

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How about because there is a possibility that they could be telling the truth and not every child has an over active imagination.I know I didn't....

Because maybe they can't prove because it's just to damn hard. Infact I'd like to know just how you expect people to prove their psychic powers on a forum board?

You are right about not believing everything you hear but you should keep an open mind and try to understand what a person claims and not just automatically think that their making all this up. I mean it's a good to ask questions about what a person claims to see if they can stick through with their anwers and not get "tripped up", but it looks to me like your just saying, prove this and prove that and a whole lot of other debunking statements. If you want to find out more about what someone says then start asking sensible questions without the in-between-the-line sarcasim or know-it-all attitude that's so obvious with what you say.
Stellar
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Prove it.


Why should I? You prove me wrong instead...

What? Why dont you believe me?

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Uh-huh. Whatever.


Theres another childish trait right there.

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How about because there is a possibility that they could be telling the truth and not every child has an over active imagination.I know I didn't....


And so I should just blindly believe? They want me to believe that psi is the only explenation, then they have to prove it.

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Because maybe they can't prove because it's just to damn hard. Infact I'd like to know just how you expect people to prove their psychic powers on a forum board?


Videotapes, for one. Or I can get them in contact with James Randi, the guy offering $1 mil for proof.

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You are right about not believing everything you hear but you should keep an open mind and try to understand what a person claims and not just automatically think that their making all this up. I mean it's a good to ask questions about what a person claims to see if they can stick through with their anwers and not get "tripped up", but it looks to me like your just saying, prove this and prove that and a whole lot of other debunking statements. If you want to find out more about what someone says then start asking sensible questions without the in-between-the-line sarcasim or know-it-all attitude that's so obvious with what you say.


I have asked questions, and I came to conclusion that there is no psi. If they insist they have psi, I'll insist they dont.
DaKong
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Videotapes, for one. Or I can get them in contact with James Randi, the guy offering $1 mil for proof.

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Then you better go get in contact with him. As long as I'm not sent to a lab or an asylum *shivers* Asylums freak me out...

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I have asked questions, and I came to conclusion that there is no psi. If they insist they have psi, I'll insist they dont.

Well then your going to have a long and empty life.
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Then you better go get in contact with him. As long as I'm not sent to a lab or an asylum *shivers* Asylums freak me out...


Fine then. I'll give you his email tommorow.

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Well then your going to have a long and empty life.


No... I'm gonna live a long and realistic life, along with the pink elephant on my front yard.
DaKong
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Then you better go get in contact with him. As long as I'm not sent to a lab or an asylum *shivers* Asylums freak me out...


Fine then. I'll give you his email tommorow.

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Okay! Thanks. It'll be hard to put in in video, though, b/c it's spontaneous.
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Okay! Thanks. It'll be hard to put in in video, though, b/c it's spontaneous.


What do you plan on putting in video?
_hAiLO_
What a mess....

I was going to refute to Steller, but then it went all out...
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