Go take a physics course. Time is not a man made concept, the measurement of time is. Our perception of it can be termed a "man made concept" but Time is not man made in any way.



"Time could have already happened?" Time IS currently "happening"



Theres nothing special about that. Many people can influence what kind of dreams they have.



Wait... you packed two dollars huh?





You know... I was about to show you exactly how you're wrong... but I think I'll let you make a jack ass out of your self. Apparently, its easier for you to do that then to look into what you're talking about.



*sigh* Yes, because we all know how knowledgable you are on the subject. Its an optical illusion based on how our eyes work, nothing more, nothing paranormal. That is simply it. Look into the word "illusion".



We dont "filter" out anything. Learn how our eyes and ears work.



If they were normal then it wouldnt be the minority who claim to have them, and the minority wouldnt have trouble proving these abilities.



Oh really? Wheres your supporting evidence? Comic books dont count, remember.





Are you kidding me? Do you have any idea about how the eye works? We dont "filter" out anything. The aura, which you mentionned, has nothing to do with seeing any "filtered out" light neither.

No, apparently you cant.



Funny, if the dream had been semi accurate, it would have been called empathy.



Actually, it wouldnt even had been clairvoyance but a derivitive because it was a dream. I am not aware of the specifics of your dream and whether in the dream you felt or saw the divorce so I was quite alright with using the term empathy.



Ever considered that maybe it wasnt anyone? it was just your imagination?



Go take a physics course. Time is not a man made concept, the measurement of time is. Our perception of it can be termed a "man made concept" but Time is not man made in any way.



"Time could have already happened?" Time IS currently "happening"



Theres nothing special about that. Many people can influence what kind of dreams they have.



Wait... you packed two dollars huh?





You know... I was about to show you exactly how you're wrong... but I think I'll let you make a jack ass out of your self. Apparently, its easier for you to do that then to look into what you're talking about.



*sigh* Yes, because we all know how knowledgable you are on the subject. Its an optical illusion based on how our eyes work, nothing more, nothing paranormal. That is simply it. Look into the word "illusion".





We dont "filter" out anything. Learn how our eyes and ears work.



If they were normal then it wouldnt be the minority who claim to have them, and the minority wouldnt have trouble proving these abilities.



Oh really? Wheres your supporting evidence? Comic books dont count, remember.





Are you kidding me? Do you have any idea about how the eye works? We dont "filter" out anything. The aura, which you mentionned, has nothing to do with seeing any "filtered out" light neither.





No, apparently you cant.



Funny, if the dream had been semi accurate, it would have been called empathy.



Actually, it wouldnt even had been clairvoyance but a derivitive because it was a dream. I am not aware of the specifics of your dream and whether in the dream you felt or saw the divorce so I was quite alright with using the term empathy.



Ever considered that maybe it wasnt anyone? it was just your imagination?



Go take a physics course. Time is not a man made concept, the measurement of time is. Our perception of it can be termed a "man made concept" but Time is not man made in any way.



"Time could have already happened?" Time IS currently "happening"



Theres nothing special about that. Many people can influence what kind of dreams they have.



Wait... you packed two dollars huh?



So... on which occasion were you lying? The former or the latter? Or both?



*sigh* If only you understood half of what I said...

If you call optical illusions and the like "psychic abilities"

It appears you simply dont want to hear a down to Earth explenation. You'd rather keep on believing you have some special abilities.








I doubt you could even answer what colour this is.

empathy- the ability to feel someones emotions or know their problems.(clairsentience)
clairvoyance-recieving psychic info or insight through the eyes or in any other way seeing this information/insight. i.e. premonitions and dreams.

B.S.-The ability to make up stuff.

Okay, question. If there isn't even the slightest possibility that psychics exist, then why are there two (widely known) institutes that are studying them? Oh yea, I remember now, because there were so many reported paranormal and psychic claims and reports and evidence that they wanted it studied. The Society for Psychic Research is in Britian, and then there is also the American SPR. So many people knew the Titanic would sink, that seats were cancelled. A guy wrote a book BEFORE the Titanic was even a thought, and he wrote a line in there, and I quote, "She was the largest craft afloat and the greatest of the works of men, unsinkable, indestructable, she carried as few boats as would satisfy the laws." And then. "Forty-five thousand tons-deadweight-rushing through the fog at the rate of fifty feet a second....hurled itself at an iceburg...nearly 3,000 human voices, raised in agonized screams." Don't trust me? Check out Morgan Robertson's Futility It was published in 1898. The Titanic sank in 1912. I have a whole book on this stuff. A whole series of SCIENCE books on this. Mysteries of the Unknown series. Time-Life books. Check it out. As you so sweetly tell Psibear and the rest of us in this forum, "Go and educate yourself." Alright? We would know ourselves better than "ignorant" people who aren't us. Surprising, I know. And just because I have made a comment about I know something, do not try to turn it around and say "Oh, is that your psychic abilities showing through?" Because that just shows how incredibly ingenuous you are.

the closest thing I have to having any "abilities" is that if there are four symbols and someone thinks about the one.. 9 out of 10 times I get it right.. I also seem to have dejavu with about 6 years advance.. so I have a dream when I am 12 and then when I am 18 bam.. I see that image.. which lasts a little longer then most dejavus.. problably about 30 secs to a minute. My grandma has predicted the death of her first husband and baby.. oh and if lucid dreams count.. though im betting not.. bah.

I believe psychics are indeed real. I dunno about young psychics but some psychics are probably real. 98% however would have to rank as fake.

tee-hee ur funny...not really. but u do realize ur icon is satanic. the inverted pentacle represents corruption of spirit...a symbol commonly used by satanist.

oh yeah ur right im sorry. the eyes send images to the brain which then paints a picture that we percieve as reality so ur right our eyes dont filter it our brain does...u know out of the 4 billion bits of information ur brain takes in inly 2 million are actually processed...i wonder might have been FILTERED out? maybe hypersonic sound waves...like a dog whistles sound for some reason the sound reaches our ears yet we dont hear it...IDK maybe it doesnt make a sound at all... then again, now try to follow me on this one, we might just FILTER it out. thats right and we filter out the aura surrounding an object too. oh yeah the eye takes in light waves, and it starts turning around and crap then it sends all this info to the brain which then paints a picture for us to see...thats why the kittens i told u about couldnt see vertical lines. b/c their brain filtered it out.

the bottle is...um...yellow i think and the soda is... um blue im pretty sure, and the logo is probably green and red with some purple i hope...joke the bottle is clear except the logo which is red white and blue. the soda itself is brown. and the cap is blue.

*Sigh* I'm beginning to wonder if you're illiterate.



Heres a question for you: How come with all these claims and even, according to you two "widely known institutes", psychic powers have not yet been proven?



Knew? Thought. So many people thought the world would end in 2000, 2001 and god knows how many other years aswell.



And you should look into it aswell. After the the Titanic sank in 1912, the story was republished in order to make it more similar to the Titanic. And, although there are similarities, there are also many differences. Infact, a large amount of the original was inspired by the sinking of the SS Titania in 1880 IIRC, but revised in order to be a bigger irony.



I already have. Have you? Apparently not.



Huh?



I say that because of how especially psibear and flame thrower make comments about their psychic abilities, yet when it comes time to prove them, they're quite simply wrong. You should have saw the link by now.



www.dictionary.com

Theres a dictionary, try using one for once. Sceptic is just as valid a spelling as skeptic.

And because I fear you wont take the time to educate yourselves and instead make asses out of yourselves, I'll provide you with the what the dictionary says, even.

"scep·tic Audio pronunciation of "sceptic" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (skptk)
n.

Variant of skeptic."



10 times? Ever try it more than 10 times? What about doing it to me to verify this power?



Dejavu can be explained without the need of resorting to psychic abilities.



And so what if it is? Do you have a problem with it?

*sigh* Theres no "filtering" going on. What happens is that the three types of cones in our eyes only react to certain wavelengths. Theres no filtering going on.



Oh really? Mind proving it? I already told you, your method of seeing an aura? That doesnt have anything to do with any actual aura, its simply an optical illusion.

http://www.eyetricks.com/jesus.htm

Similar like that.



What are you talking about? You just said there were NO vertical lines. Its not a deal of things getting filtered out, its a deal with things reacting, and other things not reacting.



So why didnt you describe the background?

the background is white

Why did you not describe the background initially though? Why did you assume I was talking about the bottle?

b/c i didnt notice the background...

You didnt notice it? In which way? I'm sure you're not blind, you knew there was a background. Your attention was focused on the bottle, however... just like mine. Thats what I mean when I say that, although we think different things and differently, we also on some level think the same way.

Fine, I have erased my previous comment about "sceptic". I apologize because on this particular thing, I was wrong. I grew up in a part of Portugal where skeptic was spelled exactly that way, any other way was wrong. But I do realize that it is spelled with a "c" as well, and I'm sorry I didn't know before. Please excuse that mistake, the fault is mine.

that is true i guess i had better rethink my theory. thanx

i don't think i have telekinises or telepathy,but,i see things that have not happened yet and in my dreams,and like,a couple weeks later it ends up happening,i've had this happen since i was ten,i'm 14 now and will be 15 in march,but i would like to know what empathy is and what are clairovoyance visions?

sorry if i misspelled

Are you certain you are not just experiencing Deja Vu? To my knowledge many "premonition type" occurances (but not all), are just a result of recalling a previous image superimposed on something we experience. It has to do with the way the brain processes repetitive information.

quick word to Biomage...when u see something before it happes it isnt deja vu. ill post something else about de ja vu. Okay Juno it doesnt matter if u dont have telekinesis or telepathy they are big entertaining abilities but there are other abilties that can be more helpful(kinda). These dreams are known as precognitive dreams. They normally are very vivid. when u say u see things i assume u mean it like a vision. a vision can come in two forms that i know of. The first is simple images and pictures in ur head that give the answer to a problem or somehow give u insight(whether it be into the future or whether u should get a pizza or chicken). PERSONAL STORY TIME!!! once in class we were asked on a test which goddess turned this one guy into a dolphin. I didnt know so i put hera then i got the sudden picture of a woman bathing in a pool of water under the full moon. the moon seemed so brilliant and bright that it caught my attention more than anything else in the image. i erased hera and put Diana (goddess of the moon) anyway it wound up being artemis (who is the greek version of diana) and i got it right which saved me from failing the test(i forgot to read the footnotes and thats what the whole test was on). next is a sort of movie in front of ur eyes. real pictures and events might happen and it appears as a stained glass window almost u can see through it (just barely but still through it) but ur more focused on the picture before u(both types of images are types of clairvoyant visions) and empathy (lucky you i have empathy and lucky me its getting better) empathy is the abiltiy to sense someones emotions. PERSONAL STORY TIME AGAIN!!! last night i was in a chat room and some girl IMed me and started talking to me. I asked why she had IMed me she was all like "IDK i just needed to talk to someone and i just felt sort of pulled to you" i realized my empathy was probably apart of her being drawn towards me. so i closed my eyes and focused and got this feeling she was scared and worried and then i got this feeling it had to do w/ her parents. i asked her and turns out she is bisexual and was really afraid b/c her parents had almost found out and now she was worried b/c she didnt know how to stop being bsexual... i told her to confront herself and to ask herself why she was this way and blah blah blah she thanked me and blah blah blah. anyway empathy means u can feel others emotions and/or know what their problems are. Clairvoyance means u recieve psychic insight or info through seeing things whether ir be a vision a dream or a picture that pops into ur head or auric sight.

2 types of deja vu
1. showing up at an unfamiliar place and feeling like you've been there before and seem to know the place very well even though its ur first time being there.
2. a situation happens that ur sure has already happened. u know everything that will happen and have heightened senses. all sounds, smells, feelings, images, things that u see, and tastes seem supercharged and for the brief few moments one occurs (or in some peoples cases, like mine, the longer bit of time) u seem to know everything that will happen as if u have already been in that exact place and done this exact same thing a bajillion(not a real number) times before.

for me,in my dreams i do something,like this one time,i was at school,and i had a dream that this kid threw a snowball at this other kid and he just dropped on the ground,and then,a couple days later,it happened just how i dreamt it would,or another time,i had a dream i was watching a movie,and this guy cut a chunk of his neck off,and then,like,a month later,i was watching saw 2 and a guy did that in the movie just how i dreamt it would,everything was exactly how i dreamt it would happen,my dreams a re also very detailed too,and all of them are through my own eyes,i think i have empathy,because if i'm talking to someone on msn,you ccan't tell how they are feeling just by what they are saying,and i was takling to my friend andit seemed like everything was fine,but i knew something was wong,i could just feel it,so i asked her and it turns out that she her bf had just broken up with her

so ur dreams are in first person? theyre still classified as clairvoyance. Well try asking for a dream with an answer to a question u have that can later be verified i.e. "What kind of shirt will (insert best friends name here) be wearing tomorrow and eventually work up to bigger questions that actually matter. And finally someone who can use their abilties over the internet. I can too but a whole bunch of other kids can't so w/e. I guess u should consider urself lucky...some adult psychics cant do stuff over the internet. work on ur empathy and maybe u can prove ur abilities to stellar, you know since u have MSN and he has MSN(messenger). well if u need empathy techniques ask me...srry i dont have time now.

okie dokie smokie

Juno, your experience with empathy and your friend is simple, people have different patterns of speech when in different moods.

I can often tell when my friends are in certain moods by their patterns, so you must have picked up on your friend's.

she was talking just how we always talk,it was like every day

Somehow I doubt that, if you have a strong emotion, it's quite hard to let nothing slip out

to any body who cares...i got my abilties back...well kinda. I just started to have deja vu again and its all starting to come back like im picking up peoples thoughts like i just sit there and then green and blue pop in my head a few seconds later the girl next to me is like "look at these shoes!" they were blue and green. more things happened like that so i know everything is coming back. My problem was i talked to myself as if i were two people...some how this creates a block to ur psychic powers so dont talk to ur "other" self. Yea! im sooo excited!

stellar i don't like you. well i mean i dont hate you, you just arent one of my most favorite people. I'm sure im not your best friend either. Anyway i just wanted to say that i do see your point we must prove our abilties, and we will. Give us some time like serious time not two weeks but a lot longer. I will admit not every kid that claims to be psychic, is psychic but some of us are. I take it that you did try to develop your abilities, but what was your method? where did you go for information...i mean some psychics intuitively gather methods but i take you had to get a book or a website or something to that extent. anyway i want to know so i can check it out...you know some methods work better than others.

The method is called "wishful thinking."

Wow, astounding... you mean to tell me that, while she was sitting beside you, you didnt see the pair of shoes that she was pointing out until she pointed them out?



You've had since the beginning of humanity, and counting... but I suppose thats not long enough?



Based on my experiences when I was younger... no, they dont.

no i didnt see the shoes. they were in a magazine and she was faced so i couldnt see what she was looking at. We havent had since the beginning of humanity...we have had until we were born. I have only had thirteen years, But really i have only had about half a year of trying to develop them. then they went away for a long time but like i said before theyre back, kinda...and maybe u should try again while you're older. I dont know, just a suggestion. not trying to be mean but u probably wouldnt be able to develop them if u tried...just because u dont really think they exist. well okay bye.

Wait... they "went away" for a long time? Are you kidding me? So... for a long time, you dont accurately think of what someone else is thinking, so your telepathic powers are gone... but on the odd occasion that you do think the same, or similar... you are a telepath?

no...for a while everything went away, deja vu, empathy everything. then i start having deja vu again. i suddenly start having dreams of the future again, suddenly i know which pudding my friend will grab and being able to know what we will discuss in class, and was able to say the answer to my friends math homework when i couldnt even see the question and i would always say it right before they wrote it...they did all the computation in their head...i even succesfully did a sudoku game w/ nothing but intuition...my example was just the first one that came to mind. they went away for a number of reasons http://users.webtime.com.au/seashell/psi/chamber/mirror.html that website explains most of it.

oh yeah when i say i knew what we were going to do i mean like the day before school came back from the holidays

quick notes to the psychics

psychic books aimed at teens work better than adult books i suggest psychic powers for teens(http://www.booksamillion.com/ncom/books?id=3373716650242&isbn=159337111X) and teen psychic (http://www.booksamillion.com/ncom/books?id=3373716650242&isbn=0892810947)...oh yeah stellar needs us more than we need him...see he tried to develop his abilties then he failed so now he thinks they arent real he needs (or at least really wants) us to prove theyre real...idk hes weird (no offense weird is good)

tee hee ur funny...too bad u rnt psychic and funny...awww oh well (fake sorrow)

Too bad you can't find the edit button, and insist on quadruple posting.

This kind of stuff ruins all of your credibility.

oh...i never thought about that i guess if i hit the edit button i could add more stuff...yeah i never thought about that...lol thanx

Please! Just leave the kids alone!!!

Ive had my fair share of weird things happening to me.

Just leave them alone! They arent delusional. They are just trying to figure out who they are, i bet when you were all younger and had the internet you would use forums and things to express yourself. So dont criticise the lot of them for being immature and attention seeking! You were a teenager once too, or is it so long ago that you've all forgotten? hmm?

Grrr to mean people.

x

Sorry but we have to call out silliness.

Ok true....but still, they are not all the same. So dont generalise.

thanx but no thanx...we dont need ur help. We aren't being immature nor attention seeking. a lot of us (psychics) keep our abilities hidden because we neither know how to use some of our powers or because they dont know what the powers are. The truth is a lot of us know who we are thanx to our psychic abilties.

Err i know, i am a teenager who believes in psychic phenomena too...i wasnt having a go. I just get angered when adults accuse me and other people, of what i have previously mentioned. Ive often been told by mediums and psychics that i have psychic ability, and ive experienced some odd things i cant explain. Anyway wasnt trying to offend or anything.

ps. Btw i wrote part of my first post wrong! It wasnt meant to say your immature and attention seeking because i know your not! Lmao! *stupid*

Oh...well wat kind of stuff has happened maybe i can help u explain it...oh yeah dont trust skeptics if they say u rnt psychic...just saying if u post "my grandma was dying in england and i was in the US and at the exact time she was dying i heard her say my name as if she were right beside me and i knew something was wrong." (that really happened to my perfectly sane grandma later in her life after her teen years.) then a skeptic might reply "its just a coincedence lots of ppl hear there names being called by disembodied voices...its all psychological." but yeah if a skeptic replies before one of the psychics on this forum dont listen to what they say...it can put a damper on ur abilities (trust me i would know...b/c after a while u begin to question urself even though u have all the proof u need u still wonder if the skeptics are right. eventually u stop believing ur powers are real and they seem to vanish and its in that time when u realize how disconnected u feel and how the world seems to do wat it wants on its own that u realize its not a delusion but that the powers were real and are real) srry i just like to share personal experiences to back stuff up...even if it cant be verified

I applaud you!

i'm not a teen yet, and i'm not phycic but i think itys cool that you guys are! i have had a couple dreams come true, but i doubt i'm phycic. still thats prettyt cool ^^

are you applauding me? or someone else...u know now i sound like i have extreme narcissism. anyway if it is me...what are you applauding?

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