Ahh, when you said science, I thought you meant something along the lines of physics, biology or chemistry.



When you call me ignorant, that isnt expressing them without insulting others is it?

And fine, jump to conclusions, but dont tell me I'm being closed minded and you're being open minded.



Telling us that Bush is just like Hitler is so important? Telling us we're nuts because we dont see it is that important?



So much for expressing your beliefs without insulting others.

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...anger management....anger management...

I think yes, hotoke. I am not gothic and proud of it (no offense to gothic teens out there). anywayz, dbz stinks and why the heck would someone claim that they see their friends getting in car crashes, raped, and other things like that?! It's just something that I would like to clear up with you.

Hey, I don't even want my powers. If I were just a plain old regular teen going into high school (even if I am a year younger then everyone ;-) then that'd be perfect for me.

Also: coincidences yah right. I looked on other sites (that's why I haven't posted in my own forum in like sooooooo long), and there are increasing amounts of psychic 'readings' all over the world and many of them are proven to be correct. there was something like spontaneous extrasensory perception (SESP) in whihc people would walk into a room and lights woudl dim, phones would ring, etc and proven not to be a fake. Clairvoyancy and precog falls into this subject.

P.S. We need gufzoo ovah here. She is a skeptic slayer, after all

One more thing-

THIS IS SO AWESOME!!! THIS PAGE GOT SO BIG!!!!!

I'm okay now.

Gonna go get something to eat

Isnt everyone?



Im not trying to have a go at you, I'm trying to figure out why you believe that your dream was anything other than a coincidence.



Well, if you're sorry for insulting me, I'm sorry for insulting you back.



Oh you can count on it.



Im not angry...



Yes, the ones that can be interpreted to mean anything. The ones that dont seem to come true seem to magically disappear from the psychics website... But no, psy is not being proven correct. I see James Randi's challenge is still up for grabs...



Really? Show me a link to that, please. If it was proven, then surely you can find a scientific institutes article about it...



Dont count on it.

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To Stellar, hotoke and anybody else who feels the need to say that all of us here are wrong or crazy or whatever you people need to be way more open minded try actually considering the fact that physic powers are possible and that we may acually posess them before saying that were wrong or crazy cause we arent you guys just cant wrap your minds around the fact that what were saying is true

the day the world stops failing in proofing that all this crap exists is the day i will stop saying you are wrong. untill that time i consider it psychological

Wow i think you are poosibly one of the most closd minded people i have ever met as Nightengale would say your mind is a square closed and unwilling to see beyond what is dirrectly in front of them

You have no idea what "open mindedness" is if you think that being open minded means thinking psi exists.



I assume you mean psychic powers? Everything is possible, not everything is probable though. I dont think psi exists. Why should?



Maybe you should consider that maybe you ARE wrong or crazy or imagining it?



The fact? Provide evidence supporting that fact, I dare you.

I think that goes for you more. Maybe you're just blind.

Or maybe i believe beacause i have all the proof i need and if you actually listened to us instead of telling us were wrong you would to

Yes, if I listened to you I would have all the proof, because I'd be a sheep and a gullible one at that.

You have these psychic powers? How about I put you in contact with James Randi... he'll pay 1 million $ to the person who proves the existence of these powers...

Why would i exploit myself like that

they all say that. dont you think that is odd?

Ahh, I see you consider working for money an exploit? If you can do something and make money, do it!

If you dont want the money, you can donate it to charity.

i was always taught never to use my gifts to gain anything and i never will even donating that money to charity would not be good beacause the money would have been gained by proving my powers wich is something i do not believe in

Helping other people isnt a good thing?

Listen, you've just lost more credibility than you had initially.

If I had a dime for every excuse as to why folks would not be willing to prove their psychic skills, I would be a millionaire.

It is useless to try and get folks to try and prove their skills as they are fictional, wishful thinking.

Perhaps we need another area in this forum, "Unproven teenager physic abilities. I am deluded."lol
People give me a break. If you have abilities, prove them and make world wide history. Not to mention the money and fame you would get. No. That is what I thought, just excuses.

yeah how hard is it to get a digital camera and film yourself doing your imaginative powers and posting them here?

are you going to tell me every kid on this forum does not have a digital camera or does not know anyone with one?

Wow!
Id say that this forum is one of the firsts to explode so quickly.
I mean at first it was a place for teenagers to come and share stories.
Now its a place for teenagers to come and argue.
Nice one Stellar.

DISCUSSION FORUM NOT DIARY OF DELUSIONAL PEOPLE TO POST THEIR RANTINGS WHILE OTHER SHROOM PEOPLE RATE THEM

Im sorry but I didint get that?!?

wow... if I had powers that were visible I would, but all I can make is psi balls. Anyone have any ideas on how to prove that? A longtime ago I posted about a piezoelectric strip and voltometer, but I can't find it on the radioshack website, and I'm almost broke : (

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Maybe in the future, we will get proof that the Psychic Phenomenon actually exists...

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Hey I am not a female!!!! Why did you think I was?

Yes I have told my mother, and some of my friends.

I doubt even if that James Randi person even came across someone who demonstrated that they had real abilities, he would give them money.

Umm... No i am not going to jump to conclusions like, wow there are clouds i am the one who is making rain. I am not stupid. I check the weather before I do any weather work, so I am not decieving myself. I am not going to demonstrate this to you as it you are both ignorant and skeptical. Also if I were to, would you believe me? If I were to demonstrate them to everyone who asked, where would my free time go??? And what about my health. It is quite draining and stressful you know.

Have an open mind, anything is possible.

I am not gothic. I do not like stereotypes, I am my own person. I laugh at other people who try to fit a stereotype.

I am personally a bit doubtful of many people who say that they possess certain abilities as many are decieving themselves, or doing it for attention. But there are others like myself who do possess these abilities. You can generally tell the difference in the end.

Yeah... just a word. The book Astral Dynamics by Robert Bruce has an entire section about the enrgy body... which after learning to enhance can improve already given talent to where you have more contorl... If you don't want to know how to AP... the energy section is well worth the money. Also look up "NEW Energy Ways" (yes with caps on NEW) and see what you find...

BTW: Precognition is my special ability... comes in quite handy at times.

Sorry, you reminded me of someone else...



What did they tell you?



I dont. What do you have to lose to try anyway?

Thats just an excuse because you know you cant prove it.



Ahh, so you'd be willing to prove it if we already believed you had it?



If you could prove it.



Oh please.

I don't claim to have psychic abilities but I do consider myself to have alot of intuition. Sometimes i get the thought all of a sudden that a certain person is gonna call me right that minute and sure enough the phone will go offand its that person the minute I think of it. Also, when I 'm playing games many times I'll think to myself what the cards are going to be when I pick them up or turn one over and sure enough they are exactly what I (just-for-fun) imagined they would be. Or I might be walking and get the thought that a person that I never talked to before or knew or saw will say something to be. The minute I get that though the person says something to me. Maybe its just coincidence after all. However, I've had so many things happen to me like that on a daily basis that I'm beginning to think that maybe I am somewhat intuitive. Who knows

Hehe. Yep. Can you "force" visions yet? It works if you learn to manipulate the energy body better... they come in clearer and you can even "ask" for visions about certain things.

Lmfao. Thats they're answer to everything.

Whom? Whos answer for everything? Not mine...lol... it really does help though if you have excess overspill of energy into the third eye storage area... after the other 2 are full.

If you are confused I suggest looking up "NEW Energy Ways" in a search... yes the NEW is capital.

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Maybe in the future, we will get proof that the Psychic Phenomenon actually exists...

I will....in two and a half years...if im still here.
Don't ask me earlier...i dictate my own time.

I dare you to explain the mechanism and give me reasons I shouldnt flush it as crap. I bet you cant.

no offense but i thought you were female becaues your name sounds a lil feminine to me, but dont feel bad, i answer phones at an answering service and i hear certain dr names and just automatically think they are female just by there last names

Well... I can... just email me... itll be easier if I dont take up forum space, considering it is long and rather complex.. but I can make it logically applicable to life and psychism. (is that how you spell it?)

No no... post it right here for everyone to see. If you claim it exists, you must also give irrefutable evidence for it.

I have afew things to say
1. Weren't you ever a kid in life? Cuz it sure doesn't seem like it (no offense)
2. Before you say anything about 'where's your proof' (trust, you would say that) I suggest that you go to this site: http://www.clearsightaura.com/ It's an entire school-so to speak- for those who have psi abilities. And not just we teens. Adults too.
3. I feel insulted by the way you treat us. you sound just like your calling me crazy and stupid for what I have. Trust me, do you think I want this!? Do you think I enjoy seeing my girlfriend in pain?! Do you actually believe I want to be tortured every day of my life in this HellHole they call Earth? It's not like everyone wants there's, Stellar. Cuz I don't. I wish I could just be a normal kid but noooo my best friend had to die in a car crash and traumatize me for life. (Yes, that's probably how I got this way. Over half of the people who have proven psi abilities have been traumatized someway or another in their life). I wish I could just have a normal life. Consider how many want to have their powers or not. That's the original point that I came to these forums. To seek help.
4. Thanks so much for treating me like a psycho. I feel alot better about myself now.
5. Why?

In conclusion, I hope that I'm not insulting you in anyway. I refrain from verbal abuse, though you seem to insult me alot. For goodness sake, this is why the world is such a corrput piece of giant rock. We can't say hi without regretting it. Just be a bit nicer, kapeesh? I think it would make alot of us happier.

Dance as if no one were watching
Sing as if no one were listening
And live every day
As if it were you last
[And don't insult others differences, Not-So-Stellar]

Got some.

http://www.clearsightaura.com/

Right back atcha, Stellar!
Oh, and by the way, it's a little thing called 'respecting other people's feelings'.

I dont know if I would call myself a clairvoyant or psychic, but I have had "visions" of my own that have come true and along with that ever since I was really little (around 4 maybe) I have been able to see spirits of sorts just about everywhere I go.

I think its entirely possible for people to have pyschic abilites manifest themselves in puberty. After all its the time when the piturity gland goes haywire and starts things off developing.

I have a slight precognition sense and i'm extremely empathic, which has got me into trouble for this in the past.

Stellar is making generalizations because they are true. All we hear in this forum is supposed teenage pyschics. Show or go. It is easy to claim anything on the internet.

Yep, and I grew out of it. My childhood "fantasies" were in no way reality, were they?



Mostly teens. And if they really have those powers... how come they're not proving them?



They've been traumatised, huh? Hmm... might explain why they think they're supermen... and maybe also why they think its been proven when it hasnt been.



Good. Maybe you'll go to a phychiatrist. Have you?



Why should I when they are challenging science, trying to alter it (it being what many people hold dear) on a daily basis... saying that certain things have been proven... then when telling them that its not proven and telling them to prove it or whatever, they say I'm closed minded?

Stellar, you really don't have nay respect for other people's feelings, do you?

I have not been to a psychiatrist, and don't plan to. The only thing that will ever concern me and psychology is when I become an adult, cuz that's what I wanna do (help teens that have been raped in their lives).

The reason that I've not gone out and made such a big deal about mine is so I am not called a freak and shunned, but it seems that you've already done that.

Don't tease being traumatized. I was traumatized when my friend was raped, and that's all I have to say.

Oh, and I don't here anything that says that the things on http://www.clearsightaura.com/ aren't true. has it shed some light on this?

Why do you continue to put me in the 'freak' category?

For the heck of it, why period?

So why dont you go see one if you were traumatised and think you have superpowers?



I dont consider those who think they have superpowers freaks... As children, I consider them children. Its when they're in their 20s and still believe it that I start reconsidering...



I didnt tease.



The onus is not on me to disprove that, but on you/them to prove it, which they havent. You cant prove a negative.

Because, as I said before, I don't want my mom freaking out on me. And I never said 'superpowers.' These are some sucky superpowers if that's whatcha think they are.

And I'm no high on anything, nor do I take any medication unless you count my inhaler that I haven't used since the beginning of 6th grade (in 8th now).

No offense, but think? I say know. You'd be surprised aobut how many people that you could know that may have psi abilities, unless you lvie ina really dull or small town or something like that.