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antiaging
Next Prophecy to be fulfilled:

Ezekiel chapters 38,39 - A group of large armies from Russia, Iran, Iraq, Germany or France, Ethiopia, and Libya will unite to attack Israel. God will turn these armies against each other, and it will rain fire on them, and they will fall on the mountains of Israel. [Note: Since Israel is a nuclear power, having over 200 hydrogen bombs, this rain of fire from heaven could involve Israel's nuclear missiles.] The situation in the middle East is going to get worse until this prophecy comes true.
But that is not Armageddon:
After the Ezekiel prophecy, Israel will be respected world wide. The future World dictator, the Antichrist will come to power. [Bible scholars in the past believed it would be the last pope.]
Ten nations from the European Union are going to give their military and political power to the Antichrist. He is going to make a seven year treaty with Israel. This will start the final seven years of the end of the world and the countdown to Armageddon.
The Antichrist is then going to try to conquer the world militarily. Probably starting off with nuclear war, aimed mostly against the Muslim nations of the Middle East. This will go on for about a year. The devastations of Nuclear War will follow: - famine, radiation sickness, forests burned up, many dead. Then natural disasters, as punishment on men for their sins will happen. A meteorite or astoroid falling into the sea, plague, poisoned water, and one third of all men killed. Earthquakes, Large hail stones. Three and a half years before the end, the European forces under control of the Antichrist are going to march into Israel and take it over. Another inquisition will start. Jews and real Christians are going to be killed. Most of the Jews will escape to Petra and surroundings. The final punishments of natural disasters from God, worse than the first, will happen. Sores, plague, darkness [possibly from dust or smoke blocking the sun] men scorched with great heat, great earthquake, etc.
The armies of the East are going to march westward to fight with the European armies, and they will meet in a place in Israel called Armageddon. [The plains of Megiddo]
Now comes Biblical Armageddon right at the end.
The Lord Jesus is going to return with an army of angels piloting UFOs, and a UFO invasion is going to happen. The real born again Christians are going to be levitated up into the air to meet Jesus and this UFO invasion, along with the dead bodies of saints that will rise out of the graves. These armies gathered at Armageddon are going to be destroyed.- That destruction is biblical Armageddon. UFOs are going to abduct people that practice sin, people that heard about Jesus and never accepted Him as Saviour, and these sinners are going to thrown into the fire or hell. They'll suffer forever.
The real Christians are going to rule and reign with Christ on the Earth for a thousand years of peace, in which Satan will be bound and he can't tempt anyone.
Sir Isaac Newton, the genius and founder of Physics, was also a Christian believer and a Bible scholar. He predicted Armageddon in the year 2060.
I don't know if that is even close to being right, but it looks like it could be close to being right. The population of Earth is projected to be almost double what it is now, by that time, and that kind of overpopulation has got to cause serious trouble.
I am a bible scholar, and I have been through the whole bible many times, listening to it being read on tape. That is how I see it right now.

Details of the next prophecy to be fulfilled Ezek. chapters 38, 39

These are the names given in the prophecy:

Ezekiel 38:2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him,

Ezekiel 38:3 And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I [am] against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:

Ezekiel 38:4 And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts [of armour, even] a great company [with] bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:

Ezekiel 38:5 Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet:

Ezekiel 38:6 Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: [and] many people with thee.

Ezekiel 38:7 Be thou prepared, and prepare for thyself, thou, and all thy company that are assembled unto thee, and be thou a guard unto them.

Ezekiel 38:8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land [that is] brought back from the sword, [and is] gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.

Ezekiel 38:9 Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou, and all thy bands, and many people with thee.

Gog is russian leader magog is Russia. Meshech is a root word for Moscow. It will be the Russsian leader in the position that Vladmir Putin is now in.
The biblical persia is Iran and Iraq together. Gomer represents Germany or France.
It says this is to happen in the latter years, which is the time close to the end. Now can be considered the latter years, because Israel is a nation again.
Ezekiel 38:13 Sheba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof, shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take a spoil? hast thou gathered thy company to take a prey? to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to take a great spoil?
Sheba and Dedan, which are Jordan and Saudi Arabia, are going to question this army when they come toward Israel.

Those names are names of people mentioned in the geneology in the bible. The lands where they lived are named after them, that is how bible scholars know what lands are being referred to . The old persian kingdom was on the land of Iran and Iraq together. Verse 38:7, shows that Russia is going to be like a guard to the armies of all of those smaller nations.

Mekorig
More apocaliptical bible predictions, and UFOs added...next please.

PS: There are a lot of bible scholars lately, inst?
final flight
That seems a little far fetched to me. Have you gotten much sleep lately?
Ashley-Star*Child
No, sweetie, Jesus isn't coming in a UFO. Demons might though.
Universal Absurdity
It saddens me that people study into these 'prophecies' yet dont seem to try to do anything about what is supposedly going to happen. I dont see the bible 'prophecies' as that, i see them as warnings of what could happen if nothing is done to stop these events.

I guess its 'well the ball is rolling....'


truly sad
VoodooStone
dude get off the coffee... wink2.gif its good to have a belief....but try to get some downtime;(
ThePortal
QUOTE(UniversalAbsurdity @ Feb 7 2005, 12:09 AM)
It saddens me that people study into these 'prophecies' yet dont seem to try to do anything about what is supposedly going to happen. I dont see the bible 'prophecies' as that, i see them as warnings of what could happen if nothing is done to stop these events.

I guess its 'well the ball is rolling....'


truly sad
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I could not agree more.

But dont ask us to much, we cant even seem to be able to learn from our past mistake.... rofl.gif



But what is truly scary is this

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No, sweetie, Jesus isn't coming in a UFO. Demons might though.


Aliens will finally come and see us and we will see a bunch of religious fanatics with guns in there hands killing everyone one of them screaming demons wacko.gif

Ashley, dont judge what you dont know until you do. We have not met them before, so we have no idea if they are demons or not. Dont forget too that stories are always written from the winning side, and they always mysteriously portray the loosers has evil.... rolleyes.gif go figure

I'm not saying they are or not, but just keep an open mind that they may be very nice people.
panther10758
Jesus riding a UFO now I dont recall that in Bible Study!
Seraphina
You know, for most of the post, I was just rolling my eyes, and muttering "for goodness sake"...

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The Lord Jesus is going to return with an army of angels piloting UFOs, and a UFO invasion is going to happen


It was only when I read this that the laughter started....oh dear...how am I gonna get through work tonight with my sides aching like this.
Hotoke
the time of the prophecy is upon us




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time for holy combat
zandore
gunsmilie.gif I am ready.
But really the way the Bible has been edited how can any one get a accurate prophecy out of it?
Athenian
I thought Jesus was dead... Look for a NEW messiah guys.


hmm.gif Nukes are really going to take the fun out of megiddo, you know?
antiaging
QUOTE(Ashley-Star*Child @ Feb 6 2005, 10:49 PM)
No, sweetie, Jesus isn't coming in a UFO. Demons might though.
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The Book of Enoch is a forgery and it is not inspired scripture.
http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/apocryph.htm
There are other spurious books.
These include the Pseudepigrapha which contains Enoch, Michael the Archangel, and Jannes and Jambres. Many of these books falsely claim to have been written by various Old Testament patriarchs. They were composed between 200 B.C. and 100 A.D. There are lots of these spurious books like The Assumption of Moses, Apocalypse of Elijah, and Ascension of Isaiah.
Concerning the Dead Sea Scrolls, there may be some information in them that parallels the Masoretic Text, but there are fables in them too. I went to see the scrolls a few years ago with great expectation but found a bunch of fables. The best defense against error in any form (fake Bibles and religions) is a solid knowledge of your King James Bible. If you read it, forgeries become readily apparent.


antiaging
QUOTE(panther10758 @ Feb 7 2005, 07:54 AM)
Jesus riding a UFO now I dont recall that in Bible Study!
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In Acts 9:3-6, and Acts 22:6-10, the apostle Paul tells about a bright light in the sky that was seen by him and others with him, and the Lord Jesus spoke to him from this light. This is an incident where Jesus is associated directly with a UFO. The Bible is what christians are supposed to use to judge truth. In the Bible, UFOs are associated with angels and the Lord Jesus. There are no flying objects associated with demons anywhere in the Bible. The Biblical evidence shows UFO aliens to be what the Bible describes as the host of heaven or angels of God, and not demons.
panther10758
I am aware of the "flaming Chariots" reference which some "ASSUME" is a UFO but NO direct writing states Jesus will ride a UFO!
tupac amaru
I love how the Christians quote their mythology to make a point! Anti, that only works when addressing other Christians and means nothing to other belief systems!
panther10758
To be fair they (Christians) quote the Bible or Myth as you put it because they believe it true therefore it is proof for them. This is no different than fighting for any belief even that of Santa as a child! The reasons those who believe and those who don't cant agree is their lack of or strong belief in something. Quoting the Bible is proof to Christians it is not to a non Christian. I am a Christian although I don't attend Church nor do I swallow every bit of aledge fact thrown at me but I do understand why Christians believe many things they are taught to be proof other cannot because it doesn't follow their belief system. Its not unlike whether you believe in ghost or not. Its that simple. Believers and non believers will never agree just because of their belief system
lightbeyondthedark
QUOTE(tupac amaru @ Feb 8 2005, 08:19 AM)
Anti, that only works when addressing other Christians and means nothing to other belief systems!
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I don't think so... Anti can be used by any belief system... Whatever is the opposite of that belief would be the anti...

but hey, thats just what I think...

LBD
tupac amaru
By Anti, I was referring to antiaging, I was too lazy to type out the full name!
zandore
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but hey, thats just what I think...
What you think or your opinion?
Hey LBD thumbsup.gif Thank you for yesterday.
lightbeyondthedark
QUOTE(zandore @ Feb 8 2005, 09:00 AM)
What you think or your opinion?
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Ha ha... my opinion.. lol
sorry zandore... thumbsup.gif
QUOTE(zandore @ Feb 8 2005, 09:00 AM)
Hey LBD thumbsup.gif  Thank you for yesterday.
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Could you refresh my memory? What are you talking about? (sorry, I'm a little out of it... LOL)


LBD
zandore
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Take it easy there buddy... No need for all the name callin...

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I think jesus_freak, or jesus_freak deuce, as I am calling him/her, need to take a chill pill, and realize that calling someone a moron for not believing what you believe is a waste of time and a waste of breathe...
That and last but not least
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well its good you do not generalize zandore... thats just one of the reasons i respect you as I do...
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I thought it was the other Jesusfreak
lightbeyondthedark
QUOTE(tupac amaru @ Feb 8 2005, 08:56 AM)
By Anti, I was referring to antiaging, I was too lazy to type out the full name!
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LOL

sorry tupac... my bad...

LBD
lightbeyondthedark
zandore,

ah yes... not a problem at all my friend... thumbsup.gif

LBD
joc
Anyone who says they know what and when anything is going to happen is delusional.

As far as the Bible goes....there are prophecies of the end of the world...but Jesus put them all in perspective. He said, 'An evil and adulterous generation seeks a sign, but no sign shall be given them except the sign of Jonah'. What was the sign of Jonah? In a nut shell, Jonah had to find out the truth 'the hard way'.

As far as Armegeddon is concerned: this prophecy is in Revelations and depicts the end of the world with all the armies of the world surrounding Jerusalem.
Jesus also said, " There will be earthquakes in diverse places, there will be wars and rumours of wars, but the end is not yet...many shall come in my name saying I am
Christ and shall deceive many." Now isn't that an interesting 'prophesy'! Many shall come in my name, saying I am Christ and shall deceive many. It isn't the atheists who are deceiving people in the name of Christ. no.gif

I do find it quite interesting though, the climate of the Middle East...not the weather related climate, but the Political Climate.

There is another prophecy that is interesting concerning Armageddon and the AntiChrist: ...the people cried out, Peace and Safety, Peace and Safety at last...and then sudden destruction came upon them.



lightbeyondthedark
QUOTE(joc @ Feb 8 2005, 09:44 AM)
There is another prophecy that is interesting concerning Armageddon and the AntiChrist:  ...the people cried out, Peace and Safety, Peace and Safety at last...and then sudden destruction came upon them.
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Ah yes, this is interesting... And I believe it is refereing to the whole situation between the Israeli and Palestinian peoples...
The Anti-Christ will make a peace contract between them, for 7 years... But half way through this 7 year period the peace will end...

Just my humble opinion...

LBD
joc
I remember when I was sixteen; I asked my grandfather (who was a very good preacher and a very down to Earth man) if he thought we were in the last days. I was convinced we were. He said that it might be today, it might be tomorrow, it might be 5 years from now, it might be 50 years from now, it might be a hundred years or a thousand years. He said that no one knows except God and advised I just live my life as though every day were the last one.
Athenian
No one knows the Day or the Hour...

But feel free to guess the year, month, week, and minute. thumbsup.gif
LordBailey
QUOTE(panther10758 @ Feb 8 2005, 10:12 AM)
I am aware of the "flaming Chariots" reference which some "ASSUME" is a UFO but NO direct writing states Jesus will ride a UFO!
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IS ANYTHING IN THE BIBLE DIRECT??????? hmm.gif
lightbeyondthedark
sure... there are alot of things in the bible that are direct... thumbsup.gif

LBD
zandore
QUOTE(tupac amaru @ Feb 8 2005, 02:19 PM)
I love how the Christians quote their mythology to make a point!  Anti, that only works when addressing other Christians and means nothing to other belief systems!
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To be accurate you either have to call the "other belief systems" mythology also or call Christianity a belief system. What belief are you, I am a non-believer.
Super Pancake
QUOTE(Athenian @ Feb 8 2005, 11:23 AM)
No one knows the Day or the Hour...

But feel free to guess the year, month, week, and minute.  thumbsup.gif
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2059 jan, 31 12:45 am tongue.gif

Why does everybody gets worked up about the end just live freaking live.
Another thing about armageddon is every religion tries to predict it and when everybody is so sure about it it never happens.

I think the whole thing about armageddon is just propaganda to get believers look at Jehovah Witnesses there always saying the world is going to end and 1000 people join.
Wings of Selkhet
People have been predicting the end of the world since the beginning of time. Christians have been predicting it for about 2000 years...in my opinion, it's a very negative way to live your life.

Plus...statistically...we have a 0% success rate so far. No armageddon prophecy has ever come true. I'd rather put my faith in mathematics than a religious text.
Stellar
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People have been predicting the end of the world since the beginning of time. Christians have been predicting it for about 2000 years...in my opinion, it's a very negative way to live your life.

Plus...statistically...we have a 0% success rate so far. No armageddon prophecy has ever come true. I'd rather put my faith in mathematics than a religious text.


Its quite distressing... some people take it to far and think that they're put on the Earth to actually initiate armageddon... or at the very least, they may try to fullfill a prophecy they believe in, given the chance to.
Something Like Laughter
QUOTE(antiaging @ Feb 8 2005, 12:13 AM)
The best defense against error in any form (fake Bibles and religions) is a solid knowledge of your King James Bible. If you read it, forgeries become readily apparent.

that made me laugh.
Ken1Burton
The Book of Revelation is looking at the day of the cross over and over as 7 time periods seen as 3 pictures. The first picture as 4 6-hour periods as 4 beasts with 6-wings, all the first fours in Revelation and also the first 4 days of Genesis, a similitude for the day of the cross.

Second picture as 2 12-hour periods seen as 2 witnesses, as God makes the day as 7 days or time periods (Isaiah 30:26) the second picture or day is also made as a week (God doubles twice to establish His words Ref: Genesis 41:32) So their dead bodies are seen three days and a half or half a week for each, Life enters into them as they are fulfilled and made Truth.

Third picture is the day as 1 24-hour period seen as 24 Elders.

The Three unclean spirits like frogs is the day as 3 pictures, Unclean or unfulfilled. Made Truth when fulfilled, and not until, seen as lies in 1-Kings 22:21/24. All prophecies are lies till fulfilled the day of the cross.

(1KINGS 22:23) Now therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying
spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the Lord hath
spoken evil concerning thee. (KJV)

So every prophet is a False prophet till God established the Prophecy. So God can say in the Absolute, “All the prophets have lied in My Name.”

The Great Battle of God almighty is on a hill called Calvary. There is no temple in heaven, But the lamb is the Light of it, so a voice comes out of the Temple in Heaven (Out of Christ) saying “It is Done.” Matthew recorded Jesus’ last words on the Cross as “It is Finished.” Then the Earthquake seen at Golgotha, and at Armageddon.

The Holy City being divided into 3 parts is the day of the cross looked at again in Revelation.

The Fourth seal is the pale horse, death followed by hell as Jesus died and descended into hell from noon to sunset.

Sorry, Armageddon was in 29 ad, and GRACE WON.

Ken
Kerkido
QUOTE(lightbeyondthedark @ Feb 9 2005, 06:54 AM)
sure... there are alot of things in the bible that are direct...  thumbsup.gif

LBD
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I know I shouldn't give into the urge of input, but today's my day off work and I'm quite bored.

Why isn't Nostradamus in the bible. I mean, if Mormons got their thing going on with additional scriptures being added to the bible, Nostradamus could've been inserted inbetween Jude and Revelation. He'd fit right in with the trend of vague predictions. Any professional prophicier should have considered mankind would become complex, we associate a rose with beauty but at the same time precaution because of its thorns. But no, such predictions that tell of dragons with horns, with crowns atop? Is mankind suppose to have a consistent understanding, or representation with these symbols? Or must we be brainwashed to know of them. Revelation: One poem created by one man that wanted an A+ grade from everyone. And it seems here, that if you don't approve of his predictions, there's something wrong with the grader.
Ken1Burton
A good brainwashing can help at times, It depends on how dirty the brain got. How cluttered up, How dusty from non-use. Like the Advertisement, "A Mind is a terrible thing to waste."

The Book of Revelation has a lot of similitudes, and those horns, and crowns all have meaning. But, The meanings are meant for those who want to know more about God. It is not for entertainment. It is not to get you a degree, and a better job. It is for those who care about what God shows them. Believing His lessons are quite valuable, and worth the effort to learn.

The Book looks over and over at the day of the cross. As God fits all the prophecies together. It looks to what God showed Jesus, Then gave Jesus 42 months to continue or start His three year and a half year physical ministry on earth.

It shows things Jesus then showed His servants or Disciples and those who were listening, things which would shortly come to pass when He went up to offer Himself for mankind.

It shows different parts of the Old Testament, and what they mean. Ezekiel’s creature with the four heads. Seen as 4 beasts with 6-wings, or the day as 4 6-hour periods. It shows the Wheels full of eyes like the 4 beasts are those time periods.

It shows the White Horse, Sunset to Midnight, Coming in Clouds or Jesus taking the sin of the world between Sunset and Midnight. Jesus said He would go and prepare a place for us, So the Rider on the White Horse goes forth conquering and to conquer, Or Jesus said it, Now has to do it.

It shows the day as 7 time periods, so the Seven heads are the head of each time period, Jesus is the Head of the first 6-hours, then Judas comes with the 144, Seen as a wall in Revelation 21:17. Multiplied by 1,000 in Deuteronomy 1:11, so they are seen as 144,000 with Jesus on the Mount.

They are seen as Virgins, as all prophecies have to be fulfilled and made truth the day of the cross. The Body of Christ seen born the day of the cross in Psalms 2:6/7 fulfills the Virgin Birth. Jesus took away sin, So then fulfills EMANUEL or “GOD WITH US.” Linking also Jeremiah’s men travailing with Child.

The wall is seen as 144 Cubits, which is the measure of a man. That links adding a Cubit to your stature as reaching angel status. So adding the Cubit which had to be done first is to love more then just to lay down your life for a friend. For greater love has no man then THAT, But those who exceed that, and love even their enemies have reached the Status of Angel.

It shows the Red horse, Midnight to sunrise, And the Second beast with 6-wings has the face like a Calf (Ezekiel saw it as an ox). Together they form the Red Heifer, Beheaded as Jesus is no longer the Head or above, God’s word like as a fire in Jeremiah 23:29. So the Ashes of the Red Heifer needed so much by Israel as they seek to raise a RED HEIFER. But it was fulfilled in Similitude by Jesus the day of the cross.

The Third beast with 6-wings has the Face of a man. Heaven and earth flee from His face.So Old Heaven was Sunset to Midnight, Old Earth was Midnight to sunrise, New Earth was sunrise to noon, Noon to sunset was New Heaven.

So the angels (144 with Jesus0 Gather all things which offend, Or they come for Jesus having upon Himself the sin of the world. And gather for one end of Heaven to the other, From one end of the Earth to the Other.

The Third 6-hour period is the Black Horse with Balances, as Jesus is Judged. The Third angel sounds, The Star WORMWOOD falls upon the Earth, Jesus is made all things cursed because He took sin, The Earth cursed, then the Star falls upon Jesus, it is a Sign (stars are for signs) of the Judgement falling upon Jesus during the third time period.

(AMOS 5:7) Ye who turn judgment to wormwood, and leave off
righteousness in the earth, (KJV)

The Fourth seal is the Pale Horse, Noon to sunset, Death followed by hell as Jesus died and descended into hell.

When heaven and earth fled (old). And there was found no place for them. Then the White of the first time period moves to the Judgment time, and it becomes the Great White throne of Judgment. Like going from the Black horse to the White horse, and God speaks if an Ethiopian can change His skin, Like from black to white.

(JEREMIAH 13:23) Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard
his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil. (KJV)

If you want to see a leopard change His spots, Look at Daniel’s four beasts. You will see the Leopard is the third beast, But looking at Hosea 13:7/8 you will see the Lord is those four beasts and the Leopard just moved to the Second spot, and the Bear is now in third place.

Along with looking over and over at the day of the cross, God also looks backwards at the four 6-hour periods. So the Leopard and bear get to change places. The Bear in Daniel has 3 ribs in His mouth. The day of the cross is seen as 3 pictures, this is what the ribs are, One of the ribs is likened to Jesus as a Woman. Ribs come in handy for that. Prime rib that is.

Over and over God shows things, interlocks things, reveals things. If you want to know God, Then read it with your whole heart. If you want to be entertained, Maybe a movie would be better for you. Either way, God loves you, Christ died for you, and you are saved by grace like the rest of mankind.

Freewill to come when you want, or not come, At Death all remember and turn unto God, Hell ended the third day, there is nothing to fear from God. You do not need to believe, repent, accept, Just die as we all will, and you will find yourself at Heaven’s gate.

There are plenty of people there to help you understand God’s love, all those out of hell are by the gates just looking for someone to share their testimony of His grace with. The Gate is broken down, So all can go in, and hell ended the third day when Jesus took them all Home.

The Book of Revelation, It is like the kiss which seals the most beautiful love letter God every sent unto mankind. The Bible.

Ken
beowulf
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The Book of Revelation, It is like the kiss which seals the most beautiful love letter God every sent unto mankind. The Bible.

That or it is totally bull manure - I vote for it being nothing more than mythology and so did the council that established the bible - they didn't include Revelations! It wasn't put in th bible until around 1000 -1200 CE and still isn't in the non-Catholic descended Xian sects (Orthodox, Coptic, etc)! Guess God can't make up his mind on that and this really calls askance on the book falsely attributed to John! yes.gif
zandore
Beowulf: That is a lot of nonsense hot air coming from some one that does not believe. Whether Revelations is fact For some one to get an "accurate prediction" they would have to read the original language text. In translating some meaning is lost and that can change the over all meaning of things. I am not sure of where you stand on that but if you give it a thought it might make sense.
beowulf
How does reading mythology in the original language change the fact that it is mythology. Your own founding fathers (the council of Nicea) found Revelations to be a fraud and did not include it in the original NT....they were a lot closer to the author (in time) than the Catholic Church of the middle ages that did include it or for that matter yourself! If reading mythology in the original language makes it true then the Gods must be on Olympus and Lao Tze must still be walking the earth! Just because I don't believe in your religion doesn't mean that I don't believe in a Creator or can't see the truth, it just means I can see that your religion is so much Bull! yes.gif
panther10758
Bewulf must you always be so agressive in your replies! I respect your view although I rarely agree with it. the psoter you reply only mentioned reading text in tis orignal form becuase of possible mistranslations nothing more.
lightbeyondthedark
QUOTE(beowulf @ Feb 9 2005, 08:51 AM)
Just because I don't believe in your religion doesn't mean that I don't believe in a Creator or can't see the truth, it just means I can see that your religion is so much Bull! yes.gif[right][snapback]481169[/snapback][/right]


Fair enough...
But who are you to say the christian religion is bull? You seem pretty confident in yourself there... Hmm...

just my opinion..

LBD
beowulf
As you said, my opinion - based on historical studies! yes.gif
panther10758
Even your "historical studies" are flawed many things thought "fact" in history later were proven false.
lightbeyondthedark
very true panther... thumbsup.gif
zandore
Beowulf if you read any of my posts you will see that I like you am a non-believer. You statement of "Your own founding fathers (the council of Nicea)" is totally inaccurate. But don't worry I did not take offence. alien.gif
Stellar
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But who are you to say the christian religion is bull?


Do you think that ancient greek is right or wrong?
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For me, personally, I would say its wrong... But no matter what I believe, its not my place to say to someone else what is right or wrong... I can simply tell them what I think...

LBD
zandore
QUOTE(lightbeyondthedark @ Feb 9 2005, 05:10 PM)
QUOTE(Stellar @ Feb 9 2005, 10:35 AM)
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For me, personally, I would say its wrong... But no matter what I believe, its not my place to say to someone else what is right or wrong... I can simply tell them what I think...

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To call one religion bull is to call all religions and all beliefs bull. NO ONE RELIGION OR BELIEF IS BETTER THAT ANY OTHERS. Whether it is Creation or Evolution and eveyone knows what I believe in.
Thats MY opinion and thats a fact Jack!
PS. Sorry to yell.
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