Poona 1980. From the well-known Rajneesh/Bhagwan community did a group of people split of, who became well-known under the name "Tyler-Erikkson"-Group. The people involved in it wanted to experiment onto the definite realms of reality and exercised very old and very secret rituals and meditation-routines until the dead of at least one group member. The gossips go much further and talk about more dead members and unspeakable ongoings while their meditations. A German film-maker took these mysterious stories to produce a film about what actually had happened to the group and the members and what they are doing today. His partly fictionalysed film "Tears of Kali" is nevertheless recommendable in my opinion.
A theory, that the film supports, is that the Tyler-Erikkson Group exercised oldest tibetan breathing exercises in connection with other magic rituals and provoked the physical "materialisation" of specific negative "thought-forms". In the film they bring the beings in connection with the word "tulpa", which really exists in the ritual universe of tibetan monks.
Evidently the famous english researcher Alexandra David-Neel mentions the reality of the possibility to produce former thought forms into the physical reality. Actually she herself wanted to find out about the mysterious stories the monks had told her about, and then she decided to attend the specific rituals over a couple of weeks to create a "tulpa". What the surprising fact is, that the undoubtly absolute credible A.David-Neel reports that a mysterious being began to show up. At first she only recognised "him" on the edges of her eye-view - but with the days the figure, who was clothed like a european monk in a black robe that covers the head also, was clearly seen by day and night also by the other researchers, who accompanied her through India and Tibet.
A.David-Neel reports, that the figure first seem to be under her psychological control, but with the time it became more and more independant. When she realised, that at a certain point the figure began to use the existing channel between them to try to influence her in a negative manner, she decided to get rid of him. even as it is told in the story of "Tears of Kali" that was the most difficult thing to do and the process drew all the energy out of her and she lay weeks until she managed with the help of tibetan monks to get rid of the entity.

- Who has additional information about the "tulpa" (the net nearly only brings A.David-Neels story up)
- has anyone already researched the connection between the materialisation-phenomena and the "tulpa"?
- who knows something about?

Greets kai
aka
MrFree

A Tulpa is a physical manifetation of the inner spirit. It can be used as a technique to learn about and control your negative side. Failure to control it in time leads to the tulpa become progressively more and more negative.

You want an excellent movie concerning tulpas? Fight Club. It could almost be a documentary.

Dear MJ12,

yes, that's the theory, but i am interested in further more details:
- who has experimented with those tulpa-producing-rituals/meditations
- What Is the technique?
- Is the phenomena really physical?
- what does it tell us about the doubted spirit-materialisations.mediums and their technique?
- who else claims to have produced "tulpas"?

Greetings kai

MJ12?

Perhaps these questions were not directed at me then, but regardless...

Tulpas are part of the Vajrakylana sect of Buddhism, also known as Hidden Buddhism, or Esoteric Buddishm. Part of the belief system is that of exorcisms, and the production of a tulpa is almost exclusively a technique used by priests attempting to reach enlightenment for the purpose of battling demons.

In terms of who has experimented with these rituals, you will not have much luck, in the same way that there are few experiments concerning catholic exorcism. It is exclusively a religious subject, and there is very little that can be done by anyone without the experience of several years of theological study and practice.

The technique is actually more meditative than ritualized. Essentialy, it involves realizing that there is a barrier within yourself, a negative energy which you are not quite able to rid yourself of. Once this is done, one meditates with the purpose of removing this negative, and if needed, a tulpa forms, or rather, enters the room. It really isn't something that one sets out intentionally to do.

According to all accounts, tulpas are perceived by people other than the person whom it came from. They seem, at least in the eyes of buddhists to be regarded as unwanted guests, in that they are treated politely, but not really encouraged to be a part of the community.

As far as what it tells us about spirits, I'm afraid they ultimately turn out to be nothing more than stories. There is nothing to indicate they are anything other than fiction.

The tulpa, as an entity, is exclusive to Buddhist thought. Other cultures have stories concerning spirit manifestations of human desires, but none are considered to be tools of enlightenment, rather more like personal demons.

fight club was about a schizo not tulpas. i have studied tulpas for a couple of years
and have found that they are like stalkers. the only personality they have is the one that was created for them. it does tend to become more negative but tuplas is just thought projection it gets stronger when more people believe in them like big foot or the lochness monster

That is also my opinion, that F.C. shows about a schizo and not about that History-old mystery. Can you name me books or texts where experiences are reported with tulpas? Did you study by trying to provoke one by yourself? In which context did you study them? Greetings from germany kai aka MrFree

Yes, well, I apologize for giving the impression that I believed David Fincher was directing a movie based on a Buddhist myth, as opposed to a psychological malady. Allow me to modify it. If the character played by Brad Pitt, Tyler Durden, would have been perceived by other people as well as by Edward Norton, the narrator, then it would meet all the properties that are associated with Tulpas.

I never got to the stage of Buddhism where I was anywhere near enlightment, much less close enough to sense my innate negativity. Heck, I never even took refuge. What I know about tulpas came from speaking with one of the priests, and from the study of the Avatamsaka sutra. I can't really offer more than that as a source, because it isn't one of the things I've spent too much time studying.

Dear Aquatus,

many thanks for your again-posting on that topic of mine. You know, I only have foggy memories about F.C., but I was a little bit wondering, that a.o. answers my question about an seldom told very old "myth" with examples from a modern Hollywoodmovie. That actually tells more about my thinking edges than about your will to give me any helpful information - so thank you therefore! And thank you also for your todays info! MrFree aka kai