Ok so I have seen ghosts all my life. I have no problem with light entities and how they come through.

But lately I have realized something.

I used to think maybe it was just my dark side but lately I have figured out that it is more then that. I think that what I once thought was just me is actually more then that.

Often I will get up at night and hear a voice...not a warning but almost a taunt. "Do you think it is a good idea to go into the bathroom/kitchen/basement alone?"

I usually just ignore it but last night, last night was different.

I heard a voice. It was telling me that I was bleeding and that I was sick and that I was going to have a dead child. I knew it was bullshit, I knew it was lying. I knew it was wrong. It pissed me off!!!! WHAT THE HELL gives this "thing" the right to talk to me in my own house when uninvited? Not just talk but threaten, beat up and beat down!

I am a strong girl. I know that for sure now. But what about those poor people with low self esteem or the lack of support from others? What about those that have to go through this alone??????? How do they deal????

Now about me, I want these out. I want my house to be a house of light and love. I do not mind lost souls here. I don't mind helping entities. But these....THE ones I am dealing with now. They don't want help. They just want to torment. I know they are tricksters...or dark entities or something but how do I get them out????

I have tried to clear them. I have tried to ignore them. But this is crossing a line...any ideas? Any help???????

What have you already tried, if you don't mind me asking?

Every once in a while I have to remind my self there is a 5 hour difference between some of us. Any how my Wife (the sensitive one in the family) used to feel her deceased Father from time to time. This of coarse was nice. But one night she felt some one else with her and it was very unsettling. So see asked her Dad to make it leave, and felt better almost immediately.
So if you have a protective spirit, guardian Angle, ask them to help.

I have tried smudging, I have walked through with a white candle asking them to pass on. I have tried communicating with them and asking them to leave. I have straight up told them to get the hell out. I have remotely walked through with a white light and tried to clear them. I have used incense that is supposed to get rid of negativity. I have had psychics clear them. These ones won't leave.

I read somewhere that burning Cynamon (cinamon ?) oil is a very strong defence against dark entities !!!!

I think it is because you are strong that these negative energies are hassling you. It's more of a challenge to them. Also, you have an ability to acknowledge them, so that's why they come to you.

Have you tried the spiritual route? Calling in a priest, a buddhist monk, anyone of a higher spiritual level? I believe in angels; I've had first person experience with one, so that's another great option. Don't lose hope, that's what they want.

Hi there
First of all I am sorry to hear you are having troubles with a negative spirit, and your right it has no right to do such things.

Here is something that I posted elsewhere its a ritual I know that can get a nasty entity caused by Ouija use, but you can also use it by using paper with evil written on it or the entities name if you know it and then burn it, when writing on the paper remember to be thinking of the dark entity that is harassing you strongly in your minds eye, fold it up and then burn it and do the following ritual as if the papers ashes are the Ouijas ashes.

The ritual

Take the board (paper with evil spirit or the name of the entity if you have it written on it) and burn it into ashes, spit into the ashes and tell the spirit to go back to where its belongs, put the ashes into a oak box (while doing so command by the power of light and of the sun that the negative spirit enter with the ashes) then close the box, imagine in your minds eye the box being a mass of pure golden or white light, and that the entity is within this light trapped, imagine the entity as a dark or black mist surrounded by the box of pure white or golden light, then wrap the box in masking tape, while doing so in-vision you wrapping more pure light around the entity, the more you believe this light to be there the more powerful the ritual will be, tell the entity your not afraid of it anymore and that its time to take out the trash.... Then go to the nearest oak tree (the older and bigger the better) and bury it as close to the trees roots as possible (be sure not to damage the tree in doing so) then ask that the oak king or green man to restrain the spirit with its roots and ask that it be sent back to where it came from or to where it belongs, ask the wild spirit to help the soul find peace if that is what’s needed, thank the oak king also known as Herne, turn away and walk away envisioning that your also walking away form the negative spirit leaving it in the hands of the green man (or god), do not look back and never return to the place you buried the box.

If you are not pagan you can use Jesus ect instead of the oak king or green man its not just about what’s spoken its about belief too, its the belief in the ritual its self that has its power.

Alternatively you can ask your higher self or spirit guides to help with any negative energy you might have summoned, but remember they cant interfere with your own free will. In many cases you might have tapped into your lower darker self that might cause some scary experiences these are the type of problems caused by Ouija that your higher self might be able to help with but in many cases removing what ever is causing the problem can be difficult.

Good luck

all the best
Faeden

I believe you answered your own question!
It seems you have attracted an entity that specializes in torment and lies.
It may well be a good time to reconsider your own spirituality as this may be attracting them.
Attacks usually occur at the crossroads of life. Are you about to make a life altering decision in the near future? The entity may well be pissed off with you with the direction you are heading. If thats the case use this experience to your own resolve. If its pissed at you you must be doing something right!

With no disrespect to you, it sounds like it could be your subconscious or you may need to see someone like a psychiatrist. Hearing voices in your head is never a good thing. Try to look at it from a logical stance first before thinking it may be something else.

I don't know how many of you been to third world countries but their haunted as hell every single god damn night you can literally hear them, and the animals go crazy dogs cats goats chickens cows they all go nuts. But a trick that they usually do is take a shotgun or anything that makes a loud noise but usually they use guns and just fire it it seems spirits don't like loud noises. It's hilarious how the whole neighborhood just goes dead after that.

Sounds like Texas

Heh, I love it. I was going to say Kentucky but you beat me to it.

Interesting.

I have been making changes. Trying to drop old habits, drinking and smoking. And I have been starting energy medicine and Reiki. I have been connecting to Spirit. Maybe this thing doesn't like me when I am up, happy and alive.

LOL Typical response. Alrighty then....

Listen, I know you are a skeptic. Great so am I, better to ask questions then believe everything you hear. But please do not begin to assume to know what my mental health is.

I am the first one to question any and all of my experiences and I know that I do not need to see a shrink.

I have seen ghosts all my life. I have been with people who have seen them with me. I have touched them, heard them, saw them, even communicated with them. I don't mind it. It is a daily occurance. It is energy no big deal.

But this guy...he made me mad. I want to get rid of him. I asked for help on ways to deal with him. I did not ask anyone to question the validity of my experience.

Hell I guess alot of us need to get our heads checked lol.

Hi Braveandcrazy if this is getting to you you need to get a pro in like a demonologist ? and then there is the church see if they can bless the house hope you sort it out.........

It's not a demon, it's not something tied to the house. No matter how much she cleanses the house it will still remain. People can create bad energy by the way they live their lives, if they are constantly bitter towards themselves and others they can create bad energy that torments them. If you get angry and acknowledge it then it will continue to feed off that negativity. If you ignore it, try to change your life around and be more posstive then there is no need to think of bad thoughts anymore. I speak from experience.

UPDATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well people ever since I took Reiki my ghosties have TONED right down! HEHE

I notice the good ones but the others just seem...scared?

I hope I am right!!!!!!!!!!!

I will keep y'all updated:) Wish me luck

Blessed Be:) Brave.

Sigh people do have some ridiculous notions about confronting spiritual evils. I can give you some advice but first question whats your religious beliefs? If your not Native american of Wiccan cut the smudging out NOW. Use symbols and methods from your own belief systems relying on superstitions and on the methods of other religions will make matters worse not better.

hello i have 3 extreme negative spirits in my house too , they folow me everywhere and are powerful now, i have tried to keep them at bay but they have gotten stronger than me.

any suggestions

Plenty see the post I put under advice regarding violent hauntings. Main thing fall back on your own faith an religious beliefs. If your Christian ask Jesus for help and use Crosses and the bible, if your Wiccan call on the Godess, etc.

That's pretty unfounded. I agree if you don't know how to space clear then don't do it. If you don't know what smudging is meant for then don't do it. But cedar and sage are all gifts from the planet and are available to anyone who respects them.

ITs actually completely founded. Don't use symbols from some one elses religion unless you want to piss the spirit off. Smudging DOES NOT work for Christians any more then Christian crosses work for wiccans. The effectiveness is based on the faith of the person who uses the object not the object itself.

When ever you use any religious symbol against a violent spirit there are two possible out comes. On the one hand you might weaken it or drive it away. The catch is that no matter what you you WILL anger it. How well it works depends on your own faith. If your faith is weak the object will anger the spirit but thats all it will do making activity worse not better.

Well if you have ever read anything about shamanism, then you would know that many aboriginals wish to share their gifts with all nations of people. I really don't believe in the holly water, or hold up a cross to an entity to make it go away.
Do you think an entity really cares about your faith or what your holding up to it? it's the intention the can read off of you. If you have the intention of going into a house or area with the intention of clearing it, it dosen't matter what nik nacs you bring with you, it's your intention to clear that area or help that spirit move on that matters.

I've read about many religions but you know what I rely on more then books? Practical experience. Demons and other evil spirits respond to and its always faith. Holy water will absolutely work. How do I KNOW this I've seen it myself. Sage can work. But you have to have faith in the divine and the religious system backing it up. Intention does matter but when it comes down to you against a demon it goes back to faith. If your faith is strong enough they will flee in terror from it, if its not they'll beat the stuffing out of you and send you running for your life presuming it doesn't just kill you out right. Intention alone won't save you these are beings that have existed for millenia their inteligence and will are some thing beyond man.

Well I don't believe in these super powerful demons from hell or even hell itself.
The demons that I have experienced and seen only have as much power as you allow them to have. Nothing in the universe is either super bad or super good, negative or possitive, it's all grey. Everyone has the possibility to be good or evil. Plus many entities have existed before organized religion, so why would they care about this stuff?

Wow you finally are starting to get this. Apply waht you just said about organized religion to your smudging. Its NOT the object its the faith. Faith is what bridges the gap between the divine and the human its what allows us to tap into God's power. Humans are not capable of confronting demons by themselves they need God's help and the way they get that help is faith. Does any of this mean you have to be Christan or even part of an organized religion? No. It means that if you want to fight evil spirits you have to have faith in a benevolent higher power whether you call it Krishna, Jesus, Isis, or Yamalamadingdong. As to believing in demons not suprised most of the modern world has opted to reject MANY ancient truths. Every culture has its demons and every culture has its punishment for sins they just go by different names. To give some examples: Rahaska(hinduism), red caps and banshees(celtic), dybbuk and shedim(Jewish), daimon(the Greek philosopher Xenocrates), bakka(Voodoo), Oni(China), Kami(Japan like angels some are good some are evil), Ahriman and his followers(Zoorastrianism), Apophis and Set(Egypt), Jormungler, Loki, Hel, and Fenris wolf(Norse). I can keep going if you want.

The idea that spirits only have the power we give them is true only to a point. All spirits gain power from the recognition they are given(this is the origins of the saying "speak of the devil and he shall appear). They are a long way from weak in there own right though and capable of considerable destruction.

If it's the faith and not the objects , then why should it matter if a christian has a pentigram or pagan has a cross, aren't you contradicting yourself?

Actually I'm not. A pentagram won't work for most Christians because to most of them its just a five pointed star in a circle or at worst a symbol of evil. Just as to a pagan a cross is just a symbol of torture and a religion that slaughters there ancestors. Symbols have power because of the faith behind them. If a christian could reconcile the pentagram to there own beliefs then yes it would work. Other wise its jsut a symbol of the divine and demons hate the divine.

I think it is whatever object or person or thing gives YOU the strength YOU need to take on these entities is what a person should use. Be it a white candle, sage, a sword, a dog! Whatever gives you the personal power to walk past the darkness and into the light is what works.

But at the same time I do believe certain objects, herbs, crystals hold power also. Just because I am not native does not mean I cannot smudge. Just because I am not christian does not mean a cross cannot hold power for me.

It is different for every person.

For me what fixed it is Reiki. I turned away from the black mean things and towards the light. How long will this last? Who knows! But it works now....well that and my 100 lbs dog helps too:P:)

Well I've known Christian's who have worn pagan symbols and pagans who have worn Christian symbols. It's not always what others precieve it to be for some of us.
I guess you being Christian you have set notion of what is what and what is supposed to be. Not everyone will agree with you on what you believe, and not all demons fit into the same category.

You are right. As long as it holds meaning for you and it empowers you it dosen't matter what it is. Someone can't claim a hunk of metal or stone ands say you can't use this cause you are of a certain faith . If that was true Reiki wouldn't be an untangible universal life force that anyone can tap into.
I'm pagan but at home I still have a plaque of the virgin marry and jesus and it's a comfort for me. Love and light and strength in your self is just as much as a powerful tool as anything else.

You can believe any thing you like its a free country. Frankly I'd rather give people advice based on practical experinece not just on what I think. Pratcical experinece shows rely on the symbols YOU BELIEVE IN. You seem incapable of grasping the central point that its faith not symbols that count. Can a Christian who honestly considers a pagan symbol a valid symbol in there own belief use it effectively? Absolutely. Can a pagan do the same with a christian symbol? absolutely. I never said they couldn't just that its useless and in fact dangerous to use other religions symbols if you have no faith in them. As to not all demons fitting into the same catagory they all have basic characteristics in common. All demons:
Hate God by any name
Hate humans
Hate any thing associated with God or any religion that serves him
Feed on negative emotion
Are defeated by a persons faith
(notice not once have I said or suggested Christianity has to fit into this in any post I made)

Your experience does not dictate someone elses experience. From what I've seen posted on other boards you seem to think your a know it all on this subject, if that's what you believe then good for you you are intitlde to your opinion.
I understand what your saying, but you seem incapable of grasping what I'm saying. I don't see how it's dangerous, but ok if you say that I guess it must be true" eye roll" done with this idiocity.

You know what quite frankly most of the people here blatently don't know what they're talking about. Do I come across as arrogent? Probably but frankly so far you come across as some one with lots of great oppinions not based on experience. You obviously have failed to grasp what I say thats been obvious in every post you've given me including this one. Is it dangerous yes. I don't say that because I think it is but because the actual weight of experience shows that using objects you don't believe in make things angry. Lots of people wave sage just because they are told it works. They don't know why its supposed to work they don't really believe it works they just do it because they're told to. Remarkably it never actually helps those people. Go ahead be done with me I honestly don't care you obviously are hell bent(pardon the expression) on being right and have no interest in actually listening.

K I do not believe in any sense that it is DANGEROUS to use other symbols if you don't have faith in them. So what you are saying is that a 4 year old that wears her grandmothers cross around her neck and has NO understanding of religion is putting herself at risk? How does that make sense or am I missing something here?

i could cliam the same about you and what i'm talking about is from experience , thanks for the assumption. And i already said that if you don't know what you are doing then don't dable with it end of story.

Actually no people who are beyond the ability to grasp the concept of religion really can't put themselves at risk. Faith is what every thing comes back to. If you have faith in the beliefs behind a symbol that symbol is a boost to your beliefs. If you have no faith in the beliefs behind the symbol it doesn't help you. Does sage have magic power? No neither does a cross. But they are physical representations of belief. As such demons HATE them. To give an example. How do you think a holocaust survivor feels when they see the nazi flag? Is it because the flag by itself capable of doing them any harm? No of course not. But its a visible reminder of the horror they experienced. For a demon symbols of God are a constant reminder of what they are rebeling against. If you leave it hanging on a wall it probably won't care. If you put it on some one unable to make a choice about faith then the faith of the person who blessed the cross is still present.

ON the other hand if you light sage and wave it around demanding the spirit leaves or expect the sage to protect you its a whole new ball game. You're directly challenging whats there. How well it works is going to come down to a question of faith and if the symbol you use has nothing to do with your faith its going to make things go badly. Why? Think about it. You've openly challenged the spirit into a confrontation. Then to throw salt on the wound you've brought some thing it hates with you. Can you see why thats undesirable?

That at least we can agree completely on.

I do not believe that spirits hate anything. Not sage, not crosses NOT holy water. They hate the power those things give us. I could think that lego gives me power and walk into a house with it and if i had enough light the ghost would take off.

Thank you for gettting right back to the original point. Using thigns you don't believe in is useless. Even if they don't like the object drawing a demon(call em spirits if you like personally I prefer calliing a duck, a duck and about 99% of what i said doesn't apply to ghosts who are ironicly much harder to get rid of) into a confrontation when you have some thing you don't really believe is going to help you is STUPID. That alone is dangerous. What do you think the demon is going to do if you bring that lego block against it and then decide you look really stupid doing so? Do you think it'll pat you on the head and say thats ok hon try again?

So how do you get rid of demons?

How have you gotten rid of ghosts?

What do you propose would work for those of us that have no traditional belief system?

What the Christ is it with you guys and the freaking quotes?

You don't need to copy and paste the entire contents of a message in your replies, its easier to follow the discussion without trying to discern the hodgepodge of incorrectly closed quotes from previous messages. Its redundant and aggravating. I'm going to have to close this thread off until I can make some sense out of the mess you've made. Take a break for awhile.

MM

Alright, the thread has been reopened. Lets try and keep it simple and just post your responses. Don't copy someone's post into the body of your message unless it happens to be on another page. If you are replying to someone specifically, address them by name at the beginning or your post.

MM

Ok MM sorry about that.

Ok in terms of the question I was asked about getting rid of ghosts and demons let me try to answer:
For ghosts: that I've seen no reliable method exists. You try to convince them to leave and if they want to they will. The methods i"m about to outline for a demon don't work.
For demons: while it goes under a dozen names I'll use the most popular: Exorcism. To get rid of a demon you go to some one who knows what there doing(ideally a priest of your own religious beliefs) and have them preform the ritual(while not every denomination has a ritual the major religions do so if you can't get one of your denomination to do it find one of a related denomination). It is possible to cast one out with out resorting to a formal ritual or a formally ordained priest its just a lot more dangerous(the established rituals have been used for a very long time for good reason).

As for some one not member of a traditional religion it depends on what you mean. If you mean people who are atheists or agnostics theres really not much they can do themselves thats going to work. If you mean some one who believes in a higher power just not part of an organized religion then they should use things based on what they personally believe. As I keep saying its the faith behind what is happening htat makes it work not what you use and not the religious dogma behind it.

Ok MM,

I THINK (hope) we have it now:) Thank you for fixing our mess:) BB and have a great night! Brave.

I am going to second this recommendation. Seeing a medical professional is not embarassing, you will not be labeled crazy, and you will not be forced onto drugs. It's always a good choice.

Doubting your absolutely right its generally a good idea to ask a competent psychologist. The main thing you run into is some will instantly dismiss any paranormal activity as psychological in origin even if no evidence exists what so ever of a psychological explanation.

I had a friend who heard voices, demons he called them, telling him to kill himself. The only way he could get them to go away was by burning his arm with cigarettes.

Now that he's got a job, girlfriend, and his own place, the 'demons' magically vanished. So that is why I'm a bit skeptical towards people making such claims; there's a whole lotta disturbed peeps out there who are looking for attention. Telling my friend to burn incense, make the sign of a cross, etc. wouldn't have helped him at all.

Ok Kevin since your an expert on this subject matter you can tell me if this is a demon or a bad entity or if I'm psycho.
Since I was 5 I've heard voices. Countless voices, not speaking in english but in tongues. It would always bother me when I was trying to sleep or just playing in my room. I would hear voices sometimes in other parts of the house, like the basement, voices calling me to come downstairs. I would have terrible dreams, dreams that would torment me for days and some still torment me. I would see eyes everywhere in my room, some on the walls, some red in the darkness. Things also seem to look like they came alive, dolls moving their eyes or talking to me aswell. Then one day I saw a spirit of a women dressed in white floating over my bed and after that the voices stopped.
The dreams continued though. At 13 I started to become very depressed and my family started to go through hard times. My brother started to get into satanism.
Four years ago, I met a wiccan who has dealt with demons since the age of 7 and he said a demon had attached itself to me. He tried to to clear it and but it was to powerful he claimed. He said on my 21st birthday this thing would try and attack me (nothing happened). I then met a high priestess and shaman who said that this thing was weak and just needed to be asked to leave. So I asked and apprently it left. They don't believe in demons persay, but tricksters.
Now one:
Is this a demon or a trickster?
two: Are these people crazy and do not know what they are talking about?
three:Is what I experienced all in my head or is it possible?